Re: pros and cons of Office 365
Kelly Pierce
If you want MS Office cheap on a DVD, go to eBay. A single PC license
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of the professional version that includes Access is $84 and a two PC version is $104. The license lasts forever, unlike the $70 a year for Office 365. That’s $140 for just two years and $210 for three years. If you get Office 365, Microsoft has effectively turned you into a surf. Another con for Office 365 is the possibility of being removed from the service and having all your files deleted without notice. Section I of the MS services agreement tells users “Don’t do anything illegal.” This would mean that if you told a friend you smoked a joint of marijuana, you violated the services agreement and can have your account suspended. This is because while the substance is legal in some states, it is still illegal on the federal level. Even if someone were using marijuana to cure themselves of cancer, Microsoft doesn’t care. The person was committing an illegal act and therefore has violated the services agreement and deserves to be banned for life. Another doozy is in section vii of the services agreement. Microsoft tells users to “Don’t engage in activity that is harmful to you, the Services, or others.” Microsoft gives obvious examples of nasty and destructive behavior like transmitting viruses, stalking, and posting terrorist content. Another example listed refers to “communicating hate speech, or advocating violence against others.” The second provision would be extremely troubling if you are a gun owner and possess firearms for personal defense. Advocating for gun rights, stand your ground laws, and laws that eliminate any duty to retreat from an attacker could be considered by some as advocating violence as the person would be using lethal force in defense of his life. Using violence in self-defense is perfectly legal, but it is still advocating violence, according to some on the left. The technology industry has removed many thousands of people from Web-based services, such as Google, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube over issues of hate speech, which the companies never define or explicitly describe. Recently, large numbers of Google Docs users found themselves locked out of their account because an automated system determined they had used the software to create unspecified material that the company considered hate speech. Those blocked include academic scientists and business owners who insisted nothing of a controversial or political nature was stored on Google’s system. The company later acknowledged that a staff programmer made a change to an algorithm that created many hate speech false positives. If you were to buy an Office 2016 DVD, your access to Access, Word and other Office programs will never be denied for grounds of simply having a political opinion, or someone’s arbitrary determination of hate speech or engaging in illegal activity of a law you knew nothing about. Kelly <div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br /> <table style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;"> <tr> <td style="width: 55px; padding-top: 13px;"><a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon" target="_blank"><img src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"; alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" /></a></td> <td style="width: 470px; padding-top: 12px; color: #41424e; font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;">Virus-free. <a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link" target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com</a> </td> </tr> </table><a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" height="1"></a></div>
On 12/1/18, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@gmail.com> wrote:
In the particular situation for MS Access, you would likely be best off
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Re: Thunderbird: is there a single hot Key to get to the nexe unread message?
Gerald,
You are indeed correct. A quick web search on "Thunderbird keyboard shortcuts" turns up the mozilla help page for same as the first result. Here's a copy and paste of the pertinent section:
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: Thunderbird: is there a single hot Key to get to the nexe unread message?
Gerald Levy
I just started using Thunderbird myself, but I think pressing "N" and "p" go to the next and previous unread message, respectively.
Gerald
On 12/1/2018 5:00 PM, Peter Tesar
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Thunderbird: is there a single hot Key to get to the nexe unread message?
Peter Tesar
Hello,
My Inbox sometimes has an unread message somewhere amongst the read ones.
The only way to find it is to go through the Go menu alt plus g arrow right to open the next sub menu arrow down to select the next unread message
Is there a single hot key combination to speed up the process?
Thanks,
Peter T.
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Re: pros and cons of Office 365
Richard B. McDonald
In the particular situation for MS Access, you would likely be best off with Office 365. And, I mean its web-based version not its desktop version. That said, in general I have not found Access to be very accessible. However, I recollect reading something recently about the Office 365 version of Access being substantially more accessible than any desktop version; including 2016 and 2019. You ought to Google this topic.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 11:37 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: pros and cons of Office 365
Hello, I’m using Windows10 and Jaws 2018. I was looking to switch to Office 365. I need to start using Access. I’m looking for the most cost effective way to get Access. I either go to Office 365 and pay the $70 per year for the personal version. Or purchase a stand alone Access 2016 for $129. What are the pros and cons of using office 365? Cheers, Kevin
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Re: Can I install jaws 18 without first uninstalling jaws 19?
george b <gbmagoo@...>
yes
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: December 1, 2018 11:11 To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Can I install jaws 18 without first uninstalling jaws 19? Hi, In MS word using jaws 2019, I find that when performing a readall, the first line of every paragraph is read twiceThat seems like a pretty big bug and I will be emailing FS to tell them about it. But I want to go back to jaws 2018 where this glitch doesn't occur. Do I have uninstall my current version in order to go back to an earlier version? Thanks -- Kimberly
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Re: Jaws 2018 desktop computer window 10 How can I do screen shots on website with jaws?
O.Addison Gethers
Yeah that when I was asking all before where is print key ,if someone had mention to me on top row where function key like f12 it should be next to it or above insert key then I would understand that !! When my sister told me above insert key on top row !!
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 1:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 desktop computer window 10 How can I do screen shots on website with jaws?
Ok, glad you got it sorted then. I thought something was off when you said f1 to f15 or something like that – I don’t believe any keyboard contains any function keys aside from the standard twelve, so that means the other three keys would probably be “print screen”, “scroll lock” and “pause”, as on my keyboard. I always buy used keyboards for under $20 though and they’re usually pretty old.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Hi JM This is me again,my sister put bump dots on print key on my keyboard the print key is located on top above insert key after f12 key op top row with functions key like f1 thru f12 key !! So I can press window key and print key together to do screen shot !! Addison
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers via Groups.Io
Hi JM and all I know you and others have try to helps me ,finally I had asked my sighter sister this morning to showed me where is the print key on this keyboard she put my finger on it then I ask her is it f12 key she say no I was get ready to ask her to put bump dots on print key but she already left so I will ask her to put bump dots on print key and screen key for me when she come back home. Thank you Addison
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
No, it’s a key given the name “print screen”. On my keyboard, it is just to the left of the scroll lock key. I am not sure that all keyboards have one, particularly laptop keyboards. But as has been said, if you’re not sure where it is, JAWS keyboard help should give you a hand.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Hi Don Correct me if I’m right or not ,when you or other say print key ,Is that mean letter P when I press shift key and letter p for screen shots ? Because I’m trying to figured out where is prints key on keyboard
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Press shift+PrintScreen, that places it on your clip board. Then you can paste from your clip board in to an email or document.
From: O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...>
I have desktop computer with window 10 with jaws 2018 !! I need to make a screen shot on getway free infro website to send it to support of getway free infro !! How can I do screen shot with jaws? When I’m on the website I press ctrl a for all then press ctrl c for copy when I opened document to press ctrl v to paste it’s doesn’t say the name of the email address that I have in edit box at all with accounts information . Does anyone have any answer for me? Addison
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Can I install jaws 18 without first uninstalling jaws 19?
Kimber Gardner
Hi,
In MS word using jaws 2019, I find that when performing a readall, the first line of every paragraph is read twiceThat seems like a pretty big bug and I will be emailing FS to tell them about it. But I want to go back to jaws 2018 where this glitch doesn't occur. Do I have uninstall my current version in order to go back to an earlier version? Thanks -- Kimberly
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Re: Jaws 2018 desktop computer window 10 How can I do screen shots on website with jaws?
JM Casey
Ok, glad you got it sorted then. I thought something was off when you said f1 to f15 or something like that – I don’t believe any keyboard contains any function keys aside from the standard twelve, so that means the other three keys would probably be “print screen”, “scroll lock” and “pause”, as on my keyboard. I always buy used keyboards for under $20 though and they’re usually pretty old.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: December 1, 2018 11:48 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 desktop computer window 10 How can I do screen shots on website with jaws?
Hi JM This is me again,my sister put bump dots on print key on my keyboard the print key is located on top above insert key after f12 key op top row with functions key like f1 thru f12 key !! So I can press window key and print key together to do screen shot !! Addison
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers via Groups.Io
Hi JM and all I know you and others have try to helps me ,finally I had asked my sighter sister this morning to showed me where is the print key on this keyboard she put my finger on it then I ask her is it f12 key she say no I was get ready to ask her to put bump dots on print key but she already left so I will ask her to put bump dots on print key and screen key for me when she come back home. Thank you Addison
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
No, it’s a key given the name “print screen”. On my keyboard, it is just to the left of the scroll lock key. I am not sure that all keyboards have one, particularly laptop keyboards. But as has been said, if you’re not sure where it is, JAWS keyboard help should give you a hand.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Hi Don Correct me if I’m right or not ,when you or other say print key ,Is that mean letter P when I press shift key and letter p for screen shots ? Because I’m trying to figured out where is prints key on keyboard
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Press shift+PrintScreen, that places it on your clip board. Then you can paste from your clip board in to an email or document.
From: O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...>
I have desktop computer with window 10 with jaws 2018 !! I need to make a screen shot on getway free infro website to send it to support of getway free infro !! How can I do screen shot with jaws? When I’m on the website I press ctrl a for all then press ctrl c for copy when I opened document to press ctrl v to paste it’s doesn’t say the name of the email address that I have in edit box at all with accounts information . Does anyone have any answer for me? Addison
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Re: Jaws 2018 desktop computer window 10 How can I do screen shots on website with jaws?
O.Addison Gethers
Hi JM This is me again,my sister put bump dots on print key on my keyboard the print key is located on top above insert key after f12 key op top row with functions key like f1 thru f12 key !! So I can press window key and print key together to do screen shot !! Addison
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 9:56 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 desktop computer window 10 How can I do screen shots on website with jaws?
Hi JM and all I know you and others have try to helps me ,finally I had asked my sighter sister this morning to showed me where is the print key on this keyboard she put my finger on it then I ask her is it f12 key she say no I was get ready to ask her to put bump dots on print key but she already left so I will ask her to put bump dots on print key and screen key for me when she come back home. Thank you Addison
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
No, it’s a key given the name “print screen”. On my keyboard, it is just to the left of the scroll lock key. I am not sure that all keyboards have one, particularly laptop keyboards. But as has been said, if you’re not sure where it is, JAWS keyboard help should give you a hand.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Hi Don Correct me if I’m right or not ,when you or other say print key ,Is that mean letter P when I press shift key and letter p for screen shots ? Because I’m trying to figured out where is prints key on keyboard
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Press shift+PrintScreen, that places it on your clip board. Then you can paste from your clip board in to an email or document.
From: O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...>
I have desktop computer with window 10 with jaws 2018 !! I need to make a screen shot on getway free infro website to send it to support of getway free infro !! How can I do screen shot with jaws? When I’m on the website I press ctrl a for all then press ctrl c for copy when I opened document to press ctrl v to paste it’s doesn’t say the name of the email address that I have in edit box at all with accounts information . Does anyone have any answer for me? Addison
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Re: Jaws 2018 desktop computer window 10 How can I do screen shots on website with jaws?
O.Addison Gethers
Hi JM and all I know you and others have try to helps me ,finally I had asked my sighter sister this morning to showed me where is the print key on this keyboard she put my finger on it then I ask her is it f12 key she say no I was get ready to ask her to put bump dots on print key but she already left so I will ask her to put bump dots on print key and screen key for me when she come back home. Thank you Addison
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 5:14 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 desktop computer window 10 How can I do screen shots on website with jaws?
No, it’s a key given the name “print screen”. On my keyboard, it is just to the left of the scroll lock key. I am not sure that all keyboards have one, particularly laptop keyboards. But as has been said, if you’re not sure where it is, JAWS keyboard help should give you a hand.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Hi Don Correct me if I’m right or not ,when you or other say print key ,Is that mean letter P when I press shift key and letter p for screen shots ? Because I’m trying to figured out where is prints key on keyboard
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Press shift+PrintScreen, that places it on your clip board. Then you can paste from your clip board in to an email or document.
From: O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...>
I have desktop computer with window 10 with jaws 2018 !! I need to make a screen shot on getway free infro website to send it to support of getway free infro !! How can I do screen shot with jaws? When I’m on the website I press ctrl a for all then press ctrl c for copy when I opened document to press ctrl v to paste it’s doesn’t say the name of the email address that I have in edit box at all with accounts information . Does anyone have any answer for me? Addison
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Re: I don't even know how to word this Jaws Question slides while video is playing in Windows Media
Sharon,
As this is a paid course I would definitely contact the provider directly asking if they have, or can create, the slide content in accessible format. That is not an unreasonable request. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: I don't even know how to word this Jaws Question slides while video is playing in Windows Media
Sharon
I can’t make the url public as you can’t even see the slides without a password, and it is a paid course. The pdf slides are not available for download. The only way I could have someone see the url is if they shared my screen through Teamviewer or perhaps Tandum though I doubt it. If I ask Microsoft Disability for help, what exactly would I ask them? Sharon
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sharon, Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: I don't even know how to word this Jaws Question slides while video is playing in Windows Media
Sharon
How would I know if Power Point is being used or not? I don’t even know which window I’d find the slides in. I don’t think there is a separate window for them. It’s just that somehow a person is viewing them while the lecturer speaks, probably through the video on Windows Media. I think I’d have to access them through the Windows Media program somehow if this is even possible. Sharon
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 11:36 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: I don't even know how to word this Jaws Question slides while video is playing in Windows Media
Hi Sharon,
By any chance are these slides being shown using Power Point? If they are there's several tutorials available for accessing, converting and saving Power Point files as Word, TXT or other formats. I don't personally much on reading Power Point files but, if they are Power Point files I'm sure there are many folks on the list that can help. Take care. Go Rams! ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharon Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 8:07 PM Subject: I don't even know how to word this Jaws Question slides while video is playing in Windows Media
I need to listen to videos located on a web site. I'm using Windows Media to listen to them. The lecturer refers to one slide after another. Is there a way to capture a slide so I can ocr it? How would I know if the slide changed to a new slide? I'm doubting whether any of this is even possible, but thought I'd ask. Much material is on the slide and he's only verbalizing a small part of the material.
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Re: pros and cons of Office 365
David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
I haven't read all of the responses to your question on this thread and so I'm sure that most of what I'm about to say has already been covered. The only downside, if you consider it a downside, is that you'd be paying an annual fee for the software. However, the benefits far outweigh any negatives. You'd be able to access the desktop apps on more than one computer and you'd also have a terabyte of space on Onedrive. However, you will get new features sooner than you would if you bought what Microsoft calls the perpetual license of Office, such as a boxed version of Office 2019. This article explains the differences in what you'll see in Office 365, as opposed to Office 2019. https://www.thurrott.com/cloud/office-365/176224/office-2019-vs-office-365-whats-really-happening David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 11/30/2018 2:37 PM, Kevin Meyers wrote:
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Re: I don't even know how to word this Jaws Question slides while video is playing in Windows Media
Mike B. <mike9902@...>
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Hi Sharon,
By any chance are these
slides being shown using Power Point? If they are there's several
tutorials available for accessing, converting and saving Power Point files as
Word, TXT or other formats. I don't personally much on reading Power Point
files but, if they are Power Point files I'm sure there are many folks on the
list that can help.
Take care. Go Rams! Sent from my iBarstool. I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!
----- Original Message -----
From: Sharon
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 8:07 PM
Subject: I don't even know how to word this Jaws Question slides
while video is playing in Windows Media Sharon
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Re: I don't even know how to word this Jaws Question slides while video is playing in Windows Media
Sharon,
Could you possibly share the URL for the videos you're referring to. In instances like this I tend to find that presenters either make their PowerPoint slides available for download or a PDF equivalent thereof. It's not always the case, and sometimes "how to find 'em" is not always obvious. This is particularly true if this information is presented as "silent intro or outro text" on a video presentation. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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I don't even know how to word this Jaws Question slides while video is playing in Windows Media
Sharon
I need to listen to videos located on a web site. I'm using Windows Media to listen to them. The lecturer refers to one slide after another. Is there a way to capture a slide so I can ocr it? How would I know if the slide changed to a new slide? I'm doubting whether any of this is even possible, but thought I'd ask. Much material is on the slide and he's only verbalizing a small part of the material.
Sharon
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Re: Jaws 2018 desktop computer window 10 How can I do screen shots on website with jaws?
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 09:29 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I am not sure that all keyboards have one, particularly laptop keyboards.For the record, in my 30 plus years in the computer arena, I have never seen a PC, desktop or laptop, that did not have a PrtSc key. The PrtSc key is generally in the upper RIGHT corner or quadrant. On my particular laptop it's the sixth key from the right edge of the very top row of keys, and immediately to its left is F12. A short while ago I tested out the Keyboard Help function using NVDA, and it was announced as Print Screen. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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