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Re: Saving an pdf file

Mario
 

could it simply bee that the website does not allow for the PDF to be
saved? I have run across situations where I could not get a save link as
or save target as option no matter what I try.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Tue, Dec 11, 2018 11:59 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Saving an pdf file

Hi, Marty. No. This is not what is happening in this case. When I click
Save Target As, I am asked if I want to save an html document, not a pdf.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Marty Hutchings
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:54 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Saving an pdf file

I have noticed that when I want to save a file from a web page, some
times hitting the Application key on the link will not give me the Save
Target As menu option.  I have to hit the Right Mouse button to get a
menu with this option.  Could this be what is happening here?

Love in Christ
Marty

*From:*Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Tuesday, December 11, 2018 10:11 PM

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: Saving an pdf file

Bill,

           Great.  That is the easiest way to get an answer about
what's actually occurring, and I'm happy to assist.
--

Brian **-**Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

/*/   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is
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Kindle On PC

denise avant <denise.avant@...>
 

Hello all,

I want to try the Kindle on my PC. I have downloaded the app, but haven’t installed it. I am using JFW 2019 and I am running the latest version of Windows 10. Can anyone with knowledge of the Kindle for PC tell me how well it works? What else do I need it to work properly? Are there any podcasts or other demonstrations showing how it works? Thank you.

 


Re: pasting multiple items into ms excel

William Windels
 

thx all for the suggestions. i made a workaround based on the info i received here.


Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 10 dec. 2018 om 20:36 heeft Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> het volgende geschreven:

If u want them in separate columns, then I agree with the use of Notepad .  You can also see if pressing F2 in the cell where you want to paste, then Control V will work  I used this is I am capturing a paragraph or list that I want in one Excel cell.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: pasting multiple items into ms excel

 

You could paste the items into Notepad, then manually put them one after another separated either by a comma or a tab, once finished select all, copy and now paste into Excel.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Windels
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 1:49 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: pasting multiple items into ms excel

 

Hello,

For me job, I need to collect different parts of a website into the clipboard to paste in ms-excel 2010.

 

I use the jaws-script AppendTextToClipboard to collect the items into the clipboard but when I paste them in excel, the items are pasted each on a defferent row (below each other).

They should be pasted next to each other.

 

The transpose feature from ms excel is not solving the problem.

 

Any idea if I can force this with jaws, a jaws-script or anothe raccessible program on win10?

 

Kind regards for any responses.

 

William Windels

 

 

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Jaws Separator Keystroke

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi All,
 
Running Windows 7, IE11, & J16 thru 2019.  When reading something that has, Separators, between articles / stories, does Jaws have a command that will take you from 1 separator to the next separator to make reading newsletters / webpages easier?  All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
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Re: Saving an pdf file

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Marty. No. This is not what is happening in this case. When I click Save Target As, I am asked if I want to save an html document, not a pdf.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Saving an pdf file

 

I have noticed that when I want to save a file from a web page, some times hitting the Application key on the link will not give me the Save Target As menu option.  I have to hit the Right Mouse button to get a menu with this option.  Could this be what is happening here?

 

Love in Christ
Marty

 

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 10:11 PM

Subject: Re: Saving an pdf file

 

Bill,

           Great.  That is the easiest way to get an answer about what's actually occurring, and I'm happy to assist.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Saving an pdf file

Marty Hutchings
 

I have noticed that when I want to save a file from a web page, some times hitting the Application key on the link will not give me the Save Target As menu option.  I have to hit the Right Mouse button to get a menu with this option.  Could this be what is happening here?
 
Love in Christ
Marty
 

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: Saving an pdf file
 
Bill,

           Great.  That is the easiest way to get an answer about what's actually occurring, and I'm happy to assist.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Saving an pdf file

 

Bill,

           Great.  That is the easiest way to get an answer about what's actually occurring, and I'm happy to assist.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Saving an pdf file

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

I’m going to try to get the link from you from my friend, and you can try it out, first by opening the link, then by trying to right click on it. It may take me a couple of days to get the link, but I’ll get back to you.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 7:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Saving an pdf file

 

Bill,

            I can't explain what's going on then.  I have never, ever had that happen when focus is on a link that leads to a file.  It happens if the link leads to a webpage.

            I have followed the instructions I gave "in the sighted way" and with a screen reader more times than I can possibly count.  When focus is on a link to a file the one and only result is a Save as dialog being presented allowing you to save said file.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Saving an pdf file

 

Bill,

            I can't explain what's going on then.  I have never, ever had that happen when focus is on a link that leads to a file.  It happens if the link leads to a webpage.

            I have followed the instructions I gave "in the sighted way" and with a screen reader more times than I can possibly count.  When focus is on a link to a file the one and only result is a Save as dialog being presented allowing you to save said file.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Saving an pdf file

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Brian. I have tried this on several occasions, and when I click Save Target As, it wants to save an html document which is only the page where the original link is contained.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 4:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Saving an pdf file

 

Tom,

          If your goal is to have a copy of the PDF file saved to your computer, the easiest thing to do is, once you have focus on the link for said file, to hit the applications/menu key or SHIFT+F10 and choose the option usually something like, "Save link as," or, "Save target as," which directly downloads the file without opening it.  You can then open it afterward with the reader of your choice.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Using Access

Ann Byrne
 

One thing to do is to go to JAWS help for all all applications, for MS Office, and read everything they have. Not a lot, I know; but more than nothing.

I have an excellent tutorial for Access 2002, which would help a little--but only a little.

I know there are hot keys, because my Access-user son talked me through building a database a couple of years ago, but not sure where to find them.

At 08:29 PM 12/11/2018, you wrote:
Hello, I finally got Access 2016. I have tried using some key strokes I found on the internet and they don't work to well. Does anyone know of some documentation that is written coming from the perspective of a screen reader? I'm using Jaws 2018 and Windows10. Thanks, Kevin


Re: Saving an pdf file

T. Civitello
 

Sorry, I misinformed. I have IE 11. I was able to save a PDF document by using: control, shift, S after it opened in the browser.  Tom 

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: Saving an pdf file
 
Tom,

        If you have any other browser option then use it.  IE10 is not even the current version of IE.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Saving an pdf file

 

Just tried this using NVDA in IE11, Chrome, and Firefox, and it works in all.  Here are the instructions, along with a page you can use to find a link to a PDF file or an MS-Word document.  The technique works with any file that a link leads to including pictures, plain text files, spreadsheets, etc., etc., etc.

If you want to play with saving a PDF file (or MS-Word file, in the case of this page) you can use a topic on Bleeping Computer:  Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Posting Instructions - Windows 10, 8.1, 8, 7 & Vista

Search on “Speccy” and the first link is to instructions for using it in PDF format.  The second is in MS-Word format.

In IE11, if I hit SHIFT+F10 on either link while using NVDA, the choice for saving the file the link leads to is “Save target as.”  It can be activated by hitting ‘A’ after bringing up the context menu, followed by enter.  You’ll then be presented with a Save as dialog to save the file, which you can rename if you so choose.

In Firefox, the choice is “Save Link as.”  The single letter shortcut to activate it and trigger the Save as dialog after the context menu is up is ‘K.’

In Chrome the choice is “Save link as,” and you have to down arrow to it.  There is no letter shortcut in the context menu for this.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Using Access

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Hello, I finally got Access 2016. I have tried using some key strokes I found on the internet and they don’t work to well. Does anyone know of some documentation that is written coming from the perspective of a screen reader? I’m using Jaws 2018 and Windows10. Thanks, Kevin


Re: Saving an pdf file

 

Tom,

        If you have any other browser option then use it.  IE10 is not even the current version of IE.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Saving an pdf file

T. Civitello
 

It is IE 10 and the options are save and save as and they both say unavailable.   Tom
 

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: Saving an pdf file
 
Tom, try again, and carefully read the options.  It's not save link, but save link target or similar.  I don't know what browser you're using so I can't give you the precise phrasing.  Every single web browser supports direct saving of the file that is a link target.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Saving an pdf file

 

Tom, try again, and carefully read the options.  It's not save link, but save link target or similar.  I don't know what browser you're using so I can't give you the precise phrasing.  Every single web browser supports direct saving of the file that is a link target.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Saving an pdf file

T. Civitello
 

sTried your suggestion. Focused on the PDF download link and hit enter on the save link. It downloaded the Web page.  Tom
 

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Saving an pdf file
 
Tom,

          If your goal is to have a copy of the PDF file saved to your computer, the easiest thing to do is, once you have focus on the link for said file, to hit the applications/menu key or SHIFT+F10 and choose the option usually something like, "Save link as," or, "Save target as," which directly downloads the file without opening it.  You can then open it afterward with the reader of your choice.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Saving an pdf file

 

Tom,

          If your goal is to have a copy of the PDF file saved to your computer, the easiest thing to do is, once you have focus on the link for said file, to hit the applications/menu key or SHIFT+F10 and choose the option usually something like, "Save link as," or, "Save target as," which directly downloads the file without opening it.  You can then open it afterward with the reader of your choice.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Saving an pdf file

T. Civitello
 

It wasn’t checked but it is now. I restarted the computer but it still doesn’t show in add on’s. It does however start with the accessibility routine when I download a PDF document on a Web page but it won’t let me save the document. Generally what I do is highlight the document and copy it to the clip board and paste it into note pad. , however some manuals are too large to do this.  Tom
 

From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: Saving an pdf file
 

Hi, Tom. Make sure Adobe Reader DC is your default program to open pdf files. This can be done by searching for the word default in the start menu.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Saving an pdf file

 

Trouble is there is no mention of adobe reader or Adobe Acrobat in the add on regardless if I select “all” or currently selected” or any other category.  Tom

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 7:01 AM

Subject: Re: Saving an pdf file

 

Hi, Tom. Once in Internet Explorer:

 

1. Press ALT plus T for Tools.

2. Arrow down to Manage AddOns, and press ENTER.

3. Make sure you are displaying all AddOns, it should look like this:

 

Toolbars and Extensions radio button checked

 

All add-ons

 

4. Disable any AddOns which pertain to Adobe.

 

That’s it.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 2:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Saving an pdf file

 

 

I personally hate having PDFs opened inside a web browser and promptly change the browser settings to have it pass off any PDF files to open with my system PDF viewer.

Any idea where I can find this in IE 10? Thanks Tom

 

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 2:35 PM

Subject: Re: Saveing an pdf file

 

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 03:37 PM, Nino Dagostino wrote:

There is this book about linux  in the email if you click on the link it opens a pdf file.

The question also arises:  Where/How does it open it?

Depending on how you have your browser set up it might open up in the browser or the file can be handed off to whatever you have set as your system's default PDF viewer.  If the latter, you can use the Save As feature of the system PDF viewer (e.g., Adobe Acrobat DC).  If the former, there's generally a download control in the browser's PDF presenter, but I haven't played with getting to that control via screen reader.

I personally hate having PDFs opened inside a web browser and promptly change the browser settings to have it pass off any PDF files to open with my system PDF viewer.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore