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moderated Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

Norma A. Boge
 

Depending on the situation, the "refresh every 60 seconds" might be a good in-between setting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

Hi, Adrian and Rahul. Page refresh can be turned off in the following way:

1. Press JAWS key or INSERT plus V to get to Quick Settings while your browser is open.
2. In the search box, type refresh. Arrow down to Refresh, and see if it says Automatically, (this is the default).
3. Press Space Bar until it says Off. Now Page refresh is off.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 3:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

Another way of expressing this is that F5 refreshes the screen. It isn't something you turn off.

Let me add that I typically follow F5 with the JAWS command insert-escape. In describer mode, JAWS calls this "repainting" the screen. To my way of thinking, it functions as a JAWS refresh.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

And what is the easiest way to turn off screen refresh? Thank you for your help.

Rahul



On 21/01/2020, Tim Ford <ttford@...> wrote:
In my humble experience, turning off the screen refresh will solve the
problems described below. I just press the F5 manual refresh command
when I need to, and that seems to work fine.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM
Casey
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 1:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

Yeah, not sure. It's a very useful command, but, it seems that
sometimes when web content is dynamic (iE, changing/refreshing/moving
regularly) it does not work. That's just my theory. I use this command
all the time but I know on the main page for a local food/restaurant
delivery service for instance, I cannot use this command to find a
restaurant on the page, and that's just one example. Not sure there is
a "fix" per se ... guess you could turn off automatic page refresh and
see what happens, but then you may run into other problems with a site.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: January 21, 2020 3:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Find command not working accurately on the web

Hi,

I Use JAWS 2019 with Chrome. Sometimes, when you perform a find
command [either with control+insert+f or with insert+f], JAWS
immediately says that there are no matching results. This is even
though I know for a fact that there are matching results on the page.
How can I fix this?



--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Candidate for the MPhil in Law
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford











--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Candidate for the MPhil in Law
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
University of Oxford

moderated Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

Bill White
 

Hi, Adrian and Rahul. Page refresh can be turned off in the following way:

1. Press JAWS key or INSERT plus V to get to Quick Settings while your browser is open.
2. In the search box, type refresh. Arrow down to Refresh, and see if it says Automatically, (this is the default).
3. Press Space Bar until it says Off. Now Page refresh is off.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 3:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

Another way of expressing this is that F5 refreshes the screen. It isn't something you turn off.

Let me add that I typically follow F5 with the JAWS command insert-escape. In describer mode, JAWS calls this "repainting" the screen. To my way of thinking, it functions as a JAWS refresh.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

And what is the easiest way to turn off screen refresh? Thank you for your help.

Rahul



On 21/01/2020, Tim Ford <ttford@...> wrote:
In my humble experience, turning off the screen refresh will solve the
problems described below. I just press the F5 manual refresh command
when I need to, and that seems to work fine.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM
Casey
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 1:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

Yeah, not sure. It's a very useful command, but, it seems that
sometimes when web content is dynamic (iE, changing/refreshing/moving
regularly) it does not work. That's just my theory. I use this command
all the time but I know on the main page for a local food/restaurant
delivery service for instance, I cannot use this command to find a
restaurant on the page, and that's just one example. Not sure there is
a "fix" per se ... guess you could turn off automatic page refresh and
see what happens, but then you may run into other problems with a site.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: January 21, 2020 3:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Find command not working accurately on the web

Hi,

I Use JAWS 2019 with Chrome. Sometimes, when you perform a find
command [either with control+insert+f or with insert+f], JAWS
immediately says that there are no matching results. This is even
though I know for a fact that there are matching results on the page.
How can I fix this?



--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Candidate for the MPhil in Law
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford











--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Candidate for the MPhil in Law
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
University of Oxford

moderated Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

JM Casey
 

You can turn off *automatic* screen refresh. A lot of web content nowadays is not static and that means your screen is constantly being updated. This sometimes causes issues even with modern screen-readers, and particularly, the find command will not really work properly, as in the example I gave of the restaurant delivery homepage.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: January 21, 2020 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

Another way of expressing this is that F5 refreshes the screen. It isn't something you turn off.

Let me add that I typically follow F5 with the JAWS command insert-escape. In describer mode, JAWS calls this "repainting" the screen. To my way of thinking, it functions as a JAWS refresh.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

And what is the easiest way to turn off screen refresh? Thank you for your help.

Rahul



On 21/01/2020, Tim Ford <ttford@...> wrote:
In my humble experience, turning off the screen refresh will solve the
problems described below. I just press the F5 manual refresh command
when I need to, and that seems to work fine.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM
Casey
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 1:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

Yeah, not sure. It's a very useful command, but, it seems that
sometimes when web content is dynamic (iE, changing/refreshing/moving
regularly) it does not work. That's just my theory. I use this command
all the time but I know on the main page for a local food/restaurant
delivery service for instance, I cannot use this command to find a
restaurant on the page, and that's just one example. Not sure there is
a "fix" per se ... guess you could turn off automatic page refresh and
see what happens, but then you may run into other problems with a site.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: January 21, 2020 3:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Find command not working accurately on the web

Hi,

I Use JAWS 2019 with Chrome. Sometimes, when you perform a find
command [either with control+insert+f or with insert+f], JAWS
immediately says that there are no matching results. This is even
though I know for a fact that there are matching results on the page.
How can I fix this?



--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Candidate for the MPhil in Law
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford











--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Candidate for the MPhil in Law
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
University of Oxford

moderated Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

Adrian Spratt
 

Another way of expressing this is that F5 refreshes the screen. It isn't something you turn off.

Let me add that I typically follow F5 with the JAWS command insert-escape. In describer mode, JAWS calls this "repainting" the screen. To my way of thinking, it functions as a JAWS refresh.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

And what is the easiest way to turn off screen refresh? Thank you for your help.

Rahul



On 21/01/2020, Tim Ford <ttford@...> wrote:
In my humble experience, turning off the screen refresh will solve the
problems described below. I just press the F5 manual refresh command
when I need to, and that seems to work fine.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM
Casey
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 1:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

Yeah, not sure. It's a very useful command, but, it seems that
sometimes when web content is dynamic (iE, changing/refreshing/moving
regularly) it does not work. That's just my theory. I use this command
all the time but I know on the main page for a local food/restaurant
delivery service for instance, I cannot use this command to find a
restaurant on the page, and that's just one example. Not sure there is
a "fix" per se ... guess you could turn off automatic page refresh and
see what happens, but then you may run into other problems with a site.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: January 21, 2020 3:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Find command not working accurately on the web

Hi,

I Use JAWS 2019 with Chrome. Sometimes, when you perform a find
command [either with control+insert+f or with insert+f], JAWS
immediately says that there are no matching results. This is even
though I know for a fact that there are matching results on the page.
How can I fix this?



--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Candidate for the MPhil in Law
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford











--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Candidate for the MPhil in Law
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
University of Oxford

moderated Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

Rahul Bajaj
 

And what is the easiest way to turn off screen refresh? Thank you for your help.

Rahul

On 21/01/2020, Tim Ford <ttford@...> wrote:
In my humble experience, turning off the screen refresh will solve the
problems described below. I just press the F5 manual refresh command when I
need to, and that seems to work fine.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 1:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

Yeah, not sure. It's a very useful command, but, it seems that sometimes
when web content is dynamic (iE, changing/refreshing/moving regularly) it
does not work. That's just my theory. I use this command all the time but I
know on the main page for a local food/restaurant delivery service for
instance, I cannot use this command to find a restaurant on the page, and
that's just one example. Not sure there is a "fix" per se ... guess you
could turn off automatic page refresh and see what happens, but then you may
run into other problems with a site.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: January 21, 2020 3:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Find command not working accurately on the web

Hi,

I Use JAWS 2019 with Chrome. Sometimes, when you perform a find command
[either with control+insert+f or with insert+f], JAWS immediately says that
there are no matching results. This is even though I know for a fact that
there are matching results on the page.
How can I fix this?



--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Candidate for the MPhil in Law
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
University of Oxford










--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Candidate for the MPhil in Law
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
University of Oxford

moderated Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

Tim Ford
 

In my humble experience, turning off the screen refresh will solve the problems described below. I just press the F5 manual refresh command when I need to, and that seems to work fine.

Tim Ford

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 1:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

Yeah, not sure. It's a very useful command, but, it seems that sometimes when web content is dynamic (iE, changing/refreshing/moving regularly) it does not work. That's just my theory. I use this command all the time but I know on the main page for a local food/restaurant delivery service for instance, I cannot use this command to find a restaurant on the page, and that's just one example. Not sure there is a "fix" per se ... guess you could turn off automatic page refresh and see what happens, but then you may run into other problems with a site.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: January 21, 2020 3:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Find command not working accurately on the web

Hi,

I Use JAWS 2019 with Chrome. Sometimes, when you perform a find command [either with control+insert+f or with insert+f], JAWS immediately says that there are no matching results. This is even though I know for a fact that there are matching results on the page.
How can I fix this?



--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Candidate for the MPhil in Law
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
University of Oxford

moderated Re: Find command not working accurately on the web

JM Casey
 

Yeah, not sure. It's a very useful command, but, it seems that sometimes when web content is dynamic (iE, changing/refreshing/moving regularly) it does not work. That's just my theory. I use this command all the time but I know on the main page for a local food/restaurant delivery service for instance, I cannot use this command to find a restaurant on the page, and that's just one example. Not sure there is a "fix" per se ... guess you could turn off automatic page refresh and see what happens, but then you may run into other problems with a site.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: January 21, 2020 3:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Find command not working accurately on the web

Hi,

I Use JAWS 2019 with Chrome. Sometimes, when you perform a find command [either with control+insert+f or with insert+f], JAWS immediately says that there are no matching results. This is even though I know for a fact that there are matching results on the page.
How can I fix this?



--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Candidate for the MPhil in Law
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
University of Oxford

moderated Find command not working accurately on the web

Rahul Bajaj
 

Hi,

I Use JAWS 2019 with Chrome. Sometimes, when you perform a find
command [either with control+insert+f or with insert+f], JAWS
immediately says that there are no matching results. This is even
though I know for a fact that there are matching results on the page.
How can I fix this?



--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Candidate for the MPhil in Law
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
University of Oxford

moderated Re: twitter

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

At 12:00 PM 1/21/2020, Kimsan via Groups.Io wrote:
Any recommendations for a twitter client?
I generally love TWBlue's accessibility. However, it does not indicate how many replies or retweets a given tweet has. When I use the hotkey alt+windows+C to expand the conversation, I don't get shown any replies. I've compared the same tweets between Twitter's mobile app

and TWBlue. The mobile app indicates the number of replies and retweets, while TWBlue does not. Pressing enter on a tweet in the mobile app gives me access to a limited number of replies, with options to show more. If there are nested replies, I can access them as well. TWBlue will not show me any of these in any of its buffers.
Orlando Enrique Fiol

moderated Word 2019: temporary place marker changing selection point

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

Hi all,

Using Word 2019 and JAWS 2020 on Windows 10 1909, when I set a temporary place marker for block text selection, the selection's beginning point gets set much earlier than the exact place where I set my marker. The end point, however, is accurate. Is anyone else experiencing this, and how to fix it?


Orlando Enrique Fiol

moderated Edge Question

William Vandervest
 

Is there a way to make the new edge handle graphics in the same way as internet explorer, in i-e linked images anounce as image link, but in edge they only anounce as a line of text as a link?

Thanks

 

William Vandervest

Timelord09@...

 

There are none so blind as those who will not se “anon”e

 

moderated twitter

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Hi,

Any recommendations for a twitter client?

Last time I was on twitter, I was using chicken nugget. Not sure what is going on with that right now.

I’m using jaws latest, windows 10 pro.

 

Thank you,

Sincerely,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

moderated Re: Google Chrome Question

 

I would highly recommend a proper password manager, I would not want my passwords remembered by my Browser, way to insecure.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Chrome Question

 

After you’ve entered the password and submitted it, there’s a dialogue to which you have to respond in order to save it. Try Shift+Tab from the top of the page, or Shift+F6 until you get ther.

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 at 06:51
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Google Chrome Question

 

How do I get Google Chrome to prompt me about saving passwords?

I have autofill turned on and I pressed the button about passwords, but Google Chrome doesn’t retain my passwords.

Pastor Gil

moderated New Edge And Jaws

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

I went back to Edge and got the uia disabled and now it’s working fine.

 

Pastor Gil

moderated Google Chrome Question

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

Thank you for replying.

I solved the pproblem.

 

Pastor Gil

moderated Google Chrome Question

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

Hi Jason,

I couldn’t find the dialog.

 

Pastor Gil

moderated Re: Google Chrome Question

Jason White
 

After you’ve entered the password and submitted it, there’s a dialogue to which you have to respond in order to save it. Try Shift+Tab from the top of the page, or Shift+F6 until you get ther.

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 at 06:51
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Google Chrome Question

 

How do I get Google Chrome to prompt me about saving passwords?

I have autofill turned on and I pressed the button about passwords, but Google Chrome doesn’t retain my passwords.

Pastor Gil

moderated Google Chrome Question

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

How do I get Google Chrome to prompt me about saving passwords?

I have autofill turned on and I pressed the button about passwords, but Google Chrome doesn’t retain my passwords.

Pastor Gil

moderated test please ignore

Petrina Delves
 

 

moderated Re: Edge now insists on asking if I want it to be the default browser

Richard Turner
 

Been there, done that.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 20, 2020, at 9:32 AM, netbat66 <netbat66@...> wrote:

did you type in default programs in the search box








?
there you make the browser of your choice as the default browser if you have another installed.
but it won't show until you press enter on the edge browser. then the other browsers you have installed should show in a list.



-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 9:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge now insists on asking if I want it to be the default browser

well, it never did that before I disabled UI Automation.
And, it speaks a shortcut alt+Shift+a and says go to Settings; which does nothing.
So I will ignore it, but it is quite annoying.
It's interesting that I have never had an issue with Firefox, but found Chrome flakey.
O well.
Later,
Richard





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 20, 2020, at 7:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:





I think it’s just a message not an actual prompt. For now I made Edge my default browser again on my laptop at home, but I just switched it back to Google Chrome and opened a few websites including Google.com and your own and I didn’t hear it.

But I have heard it before and always just ignored it.

Considering how easy it is to choose a different browser as your default I find that I really only get used to Edge and discover any issues if I use it as my default every day.

I f I am on a website in Edge and I don’t like something I simply press Alt + D to go to the address bar, copy the URL, then open Chrome and paste it into the Chrome address bar.

I guess you could do the same with Firefox, but as I said before, Firefox has always been my least Favorite browser.



Regards,

Sieghard





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 7:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Edge now insists on asking if I want it to be the default browser





I am not quite ready to put all my eggs in the Edge basket.

After disabling UI Automation, each time I start Edge it asks if I want to make it my default browser.

I have Firefox set as default in Windows Settings.

If I click on a link in an Email or anywhere else, it launches Firefox.

How the h**l do I stop Edge from asking?

I have looked everywhere I can think of in settings and the prompt is not being read by Jaws or Narrator in any meaningful way.





Thanks,

Richard



Richard



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