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Re: Help - I'm at my wit's end. JAWS will not advance to next page in tagged PDF #jaws

Gerald Levy
 


One thing to try is to go to the file menu in Adobe Reader PC and select the option to save the document as a text file.  This will open the document in Notepad as a .txt file and eliminate all those page breaks, and you should then be able to read the document  from beginning to end. 


Gerald



On 7/16/2021 3:04 PM, Chris Hill wrote:

I sure can't think of anything else to try.  If I were in that situation, I'd use k1000 to scan the document and hope it didn't scan too bad.



On 7/16/2021 12:30, Laura R wrote:

I have a 150 page PDF which is tagged and passed the accessibility checker and PDF/UA checkers.

However, when I test it in Adobe Reader on JAWS, JAWS reads to the bottom of the page and stops. Hitting the arrow key just repeats the last word on the page like it's reached the end of the document. CTRL + Page Down does advance you to the next page, but takes you to the last line on the next page which is obviously far from an ideal experience for the end user. Insert + Down Arrow (Say All) only reads current page.

I have tried changing the accessibility and reading settings to (a) read the entire document, (b) large documents read current page and changing size of large document to a minimum of 200 pgs (longer than this pdf), and (c) read single page continuous. None of them worked.

The document is due to my client today and would be good to go if not for this weird issue. In 10 years of pdf remediation, I've never encountered this problem before.

Because I have an NDA, I cannot share the file.


Re: Help - I'm at my wit's end. JAWS will not advance to next page in tagged PDF #jaws

Jim Pursley
 

Here's a stab.  Is your pdf online?  To advance an online pdf I've had to use the page number selection in Adobe Reader, a very inefficient way of moving from page to page.  Look for a Download button and download it.  Then it will work normally according to your settings.

 

No guarantees, but that's been my experience.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura R
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Help - I'm at my wit's end. JAWS will not advance to next page in tagged PDF #jaws

 

I have a 150 page PDF which is tagged and passed the accessibility checker and PDF/UA checkers.

However, when I test it in Adobe Reader on JAWS, JAWS reads to the bottom of the page and stops. Hitting the arrow key just repeats the last word on the page like it's reached the end of the document. CTRL + Page Down does advance you to the next page, but takes you to the last line on the next page which is obviously far from an ideal experience for the end user. Insert + Down Arrow (Say All) only reads current page.

I have tried changing the accessibility and reading settings to (a) read the entire document, (b) large documents read current page and changing size of large document to a minimum of 200 pgs (longer than this pdf), and (c) read single page continuous. None of them worked.

The document is due to my client today and would be good to go if not for this weird issue. In 10 years of pdf remediation, I've never encountered this problem before.

Because I have an NDA, I cannot share the file.


Re: Help - I'm at my wit's end. JAWS will not advance to next page in tagged PDF #jaws

Chris Hill
 

I sure can't think of anything else to try.  If I were in that situation, I'd use k1000 to scan the document and hope it didn't scan too bad.



On 7/16/2021 12:30, Laura R wrote:

I have a 150 page PDF which is tagged and passed the accessibility checker and PDF/UA checkers.

However, when I test it in Adobe Reader on JAWS, JAWS reads to the bottom of the page and stops. Hitting the arrow key just repeats the last word on the page like it's reached the end of the document. CTRL + Page Down does advance you to the next page, but takes you to the last line on the next page which is obviously far from an ideal experience for the end user. Insert + Down Arrow (Say All) only reads current page.

I have tried changing the accessibility and reading settings to (a) read the entire document, (b) large documents read current page and changing size of large document to a minimum of 200 pgs (longer than this pdf), and (c) read single page continuous. None of them worked.

The document is due to my client today and would be good to go if not for this weird issue. In 10 years of pdf remediation, I've never encountered this problem before.

Because I have an NDA, I cannot share the file.


Re: [External] : re jaws and vpn's

Don Mauck
 

Yes. I happen to use the Cisco VPN (any connect) and it’s just fine.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of stewartross via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] : re jaws and vpn's

 

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?

if so which ones?

regards from stew


Help - I'm at my wit's end. JAWS will not advance to next page in tagged PDF #jaws

Laura R
 

I have a 150 page PDF which is tagged and passed the accessibility checker and PDF/UA checkers.

However, when I test it in Adobe Reader on JAWS, JAWS reads to the bottom of the page and stops. Hitting the arrow key just repeats the last word on the page like it's reached the end of the document. CTRL + Page Down does advance you to the next page, but takes you to the last line on the next page which is obviously far from an ideal experience for the end user. Insert + Down Arrow (Say All) only reads current page.

I have tried changing the accessibility and reading settings to (a) read the entire document, (b) large documents read current page and changing size of large document to a minimum of 200 pgs (longer than this pdf), and (c) read single page continuous. None of them worked.

The document is due to my client today and would be good to go if not for this weird issue. In 10 years of pdf remediation, I've never encountered this problem before.

Because I have an NDA, I cannot share the file.


re jaws and vpn's

stewartross
 

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?
if so which ones?
regards from stew


Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Takis,

Everything you describe has Windows Corruption or potential infection written all over it.  There is no way that programs "just randomly close" under normal circumstances.

First, try Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10

If that doesn't stop the offending misbehavior, then try Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file

What you're describing is simply not characteristic behavior.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi Brian-all,

Actually, I have double checked on this Brian and it’s all set as suggested ever since I posed this question a while back. However, I still find that I can not get a rotating behaviour with alt-tab for more than say, two windows being open simultaneously. If I have bbc radio3 open as I do, plus outlook and for a while I want to open say, a word document, then outlook will probably vanish and I have to go back to desktop and restart it afresh. I wonder if others are finding this behaviour with latest jaws and win10 21h build 19043.

                                                                Kindest regards,

                                                                Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Παρασκευή, 16 Ιουλίου 2021 19:03
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

You know, it's just plain foolish to call a new feature, and its default setting, however annoying that might be (and, believe me, it's happened to all of us) a problem.

The ALT + TAB behavior was changed with version 20H2 (thanks, Joseph Lee for confirming version) and deeper integration with new Chromium-based MS-Edge.  That behavior can be changed back to old-style with ease.  As I noted yesterday, in the topic entitled, windows 10 update 21h1:

Settings, System, Multitasking Pane and check to see what the dropdown for Pressing ALT + Tab shows, is set to. If you want conventional "old Windows" movement between open windows then you need to select, Open windows only, from the dropdown.

Someone also mentioned that they tweaked the settings related to multiple desktops that have an impact on ALT + Tab behavior, which is also a good idea if you use them. I don't, but many do.

These are some of the many reasons that being proactive and at least scanning topics you may not initially think interest you is a good idea.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

You know, it's just plain foolish to call a new feature, and its default setting, however annoying that might be (and, believe me, it's happened to all of us) a problem.

The ALT + TAB behavior was changed with version 20H2 (thanks, Joseph Lee for confirming version) and deeper integration with new Chromium-based MS-Edge.  That behavior can be changed back to old-style with ease.  As I noted yesterday, in the topic entitled, windows 10 update 21h1:

Settings, System, Multitasking Pane and check to see what the dropdown for Pressing ALT + Tab shows, is set to. If you want conventional "old Windows" movement between open windows then you need to select, Open windows only, from the dropdown.

Someone also mentioned that they tweaked the settings related to multiple desktops that have an impact on ALT + Tab behavior, which is also a good idea if you use them. I don't, but many do.

These are some of the many reasons that being proactive and at least scanning topics you may not initially think interest you is a good idea.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

"So we can look forward to more problems with Jaws and Windows 10"
That is an interesting statement of the "my cup is half empty" kind and I'm curious why you have such a negative attitude.
I have updated my laptop and all the PC's at my business and many on the list here have updated and I don't think I have seen people report any major issues, I certainly have none.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

hmmm, I have just noticed that my home made desktop computer has updated to windows 10 version 21h1 build 19043.1110 so we can look forward to more problems using jaws with windows 10.


Legend has it that on Thursday 7/15/2021 06:54 PM, Richard Turner said:
----------------------------------------

Yesterday, Brian Vogel answered that question on this list.

You can also get to the place he mentions by opening the search by
tapping the Windows key and typing alt-tab and arrow down a couple of
times.

Here is his note:



From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 3:04 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows 10 update 21h1



On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 05:07 PM, Juan Hernandez wrote:

If anyone has any tips on this new windows 10 experience with alt+tab
please let me know

-
I have no idea what version of Windows 10 you may have had before, or
if you tweaked this setting, but, in any case, you need to check:

Settings, System, Multitasking Pane and check to see what the dropdown
for Pressing ALT + Tab shows, is set to. If you want conventional "old
Windows" movement between open windows then you need to select, Open
windows only, from the dropdown.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you
are not.

~ André Gide







Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished



Web site: <http://www.turner42.com>www.turner42.com







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William
Merchant
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 4:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10
update 21h1?







Hello,



Can someone please let me know what this setting is, so we jaws users
can successfully alt-tab in Windows 10 21h1?

Thanks muchly in advance for any help with this!















Kindest regards,

jaws 2021 user



Hank





From: Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:09 PM

To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: windows 10 update 21h1



Thanks Brian.

I thought it might have been you, but I got carried away deleting
emails and you know how that goes.



Thanks very much.







Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished



Web site:
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
rner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C90121249ae3a4513913208d947e9b1d0%7C84df
9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637619891297445665%7CUnknown%7CT
WFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6
Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=l0BwKqEUP5EbDYna1jL1naSq%2Flkx3%2ByQcqriS6b3kpY%3D&
reserved=0>www.turner42.com







From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 1:50 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows 10 update 21h1



On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 03:48 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks to whomever it was that mentioned the settings for alt-tab in
Windows 10!

-
That would be me, and you're welcome.

I knew that when Microsoft introduced this particular behavior change,
and made it default, it was going to be a major stumbling block for
screen reader users. There was much discussion about it on the Windows
Access with Screen Readers group (formerly Win10 for Screen Reader
Users) back when it first hit, and I cannot recall whether that was
version 1909 or 2004.

This is one of the problems for those who end up on the "late end" of
any feature update roll out cycle. Most of the bumps get discussed in
the early weeks and first several months and then the discussions fade.
By the time the late cohorts are updated much can be forgotten. This
is one reason I implore people to file specific messages about changes
that they are virtually certain will affect them, eventually, even if
they don't at the moment. It makes it much quicker and easier to check
your own mini-archive.

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you
are not.

~ André Gide

----------------------------------------


Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

ratshtron
 

hmmm, I have just noticed that my home made desktop computer has updated to windows 10 version 21h1 build 19043.1110 so we can look forward to more problems using jaws with windows 10.


Legend has it that on Thursday 7/15/2021 06:54 PM, Richard Turner said:
----------------------------------------

Yesterday, Brian Vogel answered that question on this list.

You can also get to the place he mentions by opening the search by tapping the Windows key and typing alt-tab and arrow down a couple of times…

Here is his note:



From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 3:04 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows 10 update 21h1



On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 05:07 PM, Juan Hernandez wrote:

If anyone has any tips on this new windows 10 experience with alt+tab please let me know

-
I have no idea what version of Windows 10 you may have had before, or if you tweaked this setting, but, in any case, you need to check:

Settings, System, Multitasking Pane and check to see what the dropdown for Pressing ALT + Tab shows, is set to. If you want conventional "old Windows" movement between open windows then you need to select, Open windows only, from the dropdown.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

~ André Gide







Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished



Web site: <http://www.turner42.com>www.turner42.com







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 4:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?







Hello,



Can someone please let me know what this setting is, so we jaws users can successfully alt-tab in Windows 10 21h1?

Thanks muchly in advance for any help with this!















Kindest regards,

jaws 2021 user



Hank





From: Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:09 PM

To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: windows 10 update 21h1



Thanks Brian.

I thought it might have been you, but I got carried away deleting emails and you know how that goes…



Thanks very much.







Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished



Web site: <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C90121249ae3a4513913208d947e9b1d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637619891297445665%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=l0BwKqEUP5EbDYna1jL1naSq%2Flkx3%2ByQcqriS6b3kpY%3D&reserved=0>www.turner42.com







From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 1:50 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows 10 update 21h1



On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 03:48 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks to whomever it was that mentioned the settings for alt-tab in Windows 10!

-
That would be me, and you're welcome.

I knew that when Microsoft introduced this particular behavior change, and made it default, it was going to be a major stumbling block for screen reader users. There was much discussion about it on the Windows Access with Screen Readers group (formerly Win10 for Screen Reader Users) back when it first hit, and I cannot recall whether that was version 1909 or 2004.

This is one of the problems for those who end up on the "late end" of any feature update roll out cycle. Most of the bumps get discussed in the early weeks and first several months and then the discussions fade. By the time the late cohorts are updated much can be forgotten. This is one reason I implore people to file specific messages about changes that they are virtually certain will affect them, eventually, even if they don't at the moment. It makes it much quicker and easier to check your own mini-archive.

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

~ André Gide

----------------------------------------


Re: Windows Access with Screen Readers group

Cornelius
 

You don’t have to resubscribe.
All users from the Win10 group are still intack as they just rename the group.
 
 

From: Cher
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 7:59 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Windows Access with Screen Readers group
 

I seem to have missed the transition from the old Win10 group. I would appreciate very much getting the subscribe address from someone who didn’t miss the boat 😉

 

Cher

 


Re: Windows Access with Screen Readers group

Marie
 

If you were subscribed to the Win10 list you would have been automatically subscribed to the new list.
Marie
 
 

From: Cher
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 4:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Windows Access with Screen Readers group
 

I seem to have missed the transition from the old Win10 group. I would appreciate very much getting the subscribe address from someone who didn’t miss the boat 😉

 

Cher

 


Re: Windows Access with Screen Readers group

Mike B.
 


Howdy Cher,
 
Here you go:
 
Posting To This Group
 
To send a message to this group, send the message to:
winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
 
 
To join this group, send an email to:
winaccess+subscribe@winaccess.groups.io
 
 
To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
winaccess+unsubscribe@winaccess.groups.io
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Cher
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 4:59 PM
Subject: Windows Access with Screen Readers group

I seem to have missed the transition from the old Win10 group. I would appreciate very much getting the subscribe address from someone who didn’t miss the boat 😉

 

Cher

 


Windows Access with Screen Readers group

Cher
 

I seem to have missed the transition from the old Win10 group. I would appreciate very much getting the subscribe address from someone who didn’t miss the boat 😉

 

Cher

 


Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

Mario
 

from Brian Vogel's earlier post:
"... you need to check:

Settings, System, Multitasking Pane and check to see what the dropdown for Pressing ALT + Tab shows, is set to.  If you want conventional "old Windows" movement between open windows then you need to select, Open windows only, from the dropdown."

-------- Original Message --------
From: Hank William Merchant [mailto:hank_w@xplornet.ca]
Subject: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?
Date: Thursday, July 15, 2021, 7:38 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Hello,

Can someone please let me know what this setting is, so we jaws
users can successfully alt-tab in Windows 10 21h1?

Thanks muchly in advance for any help with this!

Kindest regards,

jaws 2021 user

Hank


*From:* Richard Turner

*Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:09 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: windows 10 update 21h1

Thanks Brian.

I thought it might have been you, but I got carried away deleting emails
and you know how that goes…

Thanks very much.

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com>

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2021 1:50 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: windows 10 update 21h1

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 03:48 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks to whomever it was that mentioned the settings for alt-tab in
Windows 10!

-
That would be me, and you're welcome.

I knew that when Microsoft introduced this particular behavior change,
and made it default, it was going to be a major stumbling block for
screen reader users.  There was much discussion about it on the Windows
Access with Screen Readers group (formerly Win10 for Screen Reader
Users) back when it first hit, and I cannot recall whether that was
version 1909 or 2004.

This is one of the problems for those who end up on the "late end" of
any feature update roll out cycle.  Most of the bumps get discussed in
the early weeks and first several months and then the discussions fade.
By the time the late cohorts are updated much can be forgotten.  This is
one reason I implore people to file specific messages about changes that
they are virtually certain will affect them, eventually, even if they
don't at the moment.  It makes it much quicker and easier to check your
own mini-archive.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

*It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you
are not.*

~ André Gide


Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

Richard Turner
 

Yesterday, Brian Vogel answered that question on this list.

You can also get to the place he mentions by opening the search by tapping the Windows key and typing alt-tab and arrow down a couple of times…

Here is his note:

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows 10 update 21h1

 

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 05:07 PM, Juan Hernandez wrote:

If anyone has any tips on this new windows 10 experience with alt+tab please let me know

-
I have no idea what version of Windows 10 you may have had before, or if you tweaked this setting, but, in any case, you need to check:

Settings, System, Multitasking Pane and check to see what the dropdown for Pressing ALT + Tab shows, is set to.  If you want conventional "old Windows" movement between open windows then you need to select, Open windows only, from the dropdown.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 4:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

 

 

Hello,

 

Can someone please let me know what this setting is, so we jaws users can successfully alt-tab in Windows 10 21h1?

Thanks muchly in advance for any help with this!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kindest regards,

jaws 2021 user

 

Hank

 

 

From: Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:09 PM

Subject: Re: windows 10 update 21h1

 

Thanks Brian.

I thought it might have been you, but I got carried away deleting emails and you know how that goes…

 

Thanks very much.

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows 10 update 21h1

 

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 03:48 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks to whomever it was that mentioned the settings for alt-tab in Windows 10!

-
That would be me, and you're welcome.

I knew that when Microsoft introduced this particular behavior change, and made it default, it was going to be a major stumbling block for screen reader users.  There was much discussion about it on the
Windows Access with Screen Readers group (formerly Win10 for Screen Reader Users) back when it first hit, and I cannot recall whether that was version 1909 or 2004.

This is one of the problems for those who end up on the "late end" of any feature update roll out cycle.  Most of the bumps get discussed in the early weeks and first several months and then the discussions fade.  By the time the late cohorts are updated much can be forgotten.  This is one reason I implore people to file specific messages about changes that they are virtually certain will affect them, eventually, even if they don't at the moment.  It makes it much quicker and easier to check your own mini-archive.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


Re: Braille problem

Michael Munn
 

The problem is now solved regarding braille display  displaying only in Grade one code in Microsoft Word. Thanks to all of you for the help. I really appreciate it.

What I end up doing is having her Jaws configuration pasted into my Explorer My settings folder, then I use the first letter navigation key to find Word.JCF to open the settings center directly, I then press b until I find braille, then translation. It turns out that she had her output set to  Chinese braille code and her input is in U.S Grade One .

Now everything has straightened and thank you once again for the tip. 

best regards 

Michael H. Munn 

JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia  

www.nfbga.org


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind 

www.nfb.org

  Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu



On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 6:50 PM Jason White via groups.io <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> wrote:
In Microsoft Word, use Insert+V for Quick Settings and check the translation table options.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Wednesday, 14 July 2021 16:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Braille problem

Hi all, I have a question here. My friend shared a copy of her Jaws configuration with me to diagnose a problem that occurred in her settings. I never experienced this problem before so therefore i need some help.
The problem is when she use her display to operate Jaws, it will display contracted braille everywhere she navigate her Jaws to but in microsoft Word.
i tried to solve the problem but I can't seem to track it down. If you know what is the problem, please respond to this email so I can adjust her settings back to where it suppose to be.
Thanks
Best regards
Michael Munn


Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia

www.nfbga.org


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind

www.nfb.org

  Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind

www.hadley.edu












Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

Hank William Merchant
 

 
 
Hello,
 

Can someone please let me know what this setting is, so we jaws users can successfully alt-tab in Windows 10 21h1?

Thanks muchly in advance for any help with this!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kindest regards,

jaws 2021 user

 

Hank

 


From: Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows 10 update 21h1
 

Thanks Brian.

I thought it might have been you, but I got carried away deleting emails and you know how that goes…

 

Thanks very much.

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows 10 update 21h1

 

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 03:48 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks to whomever it was that mentioned the settings for alt-tab in Windows 10!

-
That would be me, and you're welcome.

I knew that when Microsoft introduced this particular behavior change, and made it default, it was going to be a major stumbling block for screen reader users.  There was much discussion about it on the Windows Access with Screen Readers group (formerly Win10 for Screen Reader Users) back when it first hit, and I cannot recall whether that was version 1909 or 2004.

This is one of the problems for those who end up on the "late end" of any feature update roll out cycle.  Most of the bumps get discussed in the early weeks and first several months and then the discussions fade.  By the time the late cohorts are updated much can be forgotten.  This is one reason I implore people to file specific messages about changes that they are virtually certain will affect them, eventually, even if they don't at the moment.  It makes it much quicker and easier to check your own mini-archive.
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


Re: Braille problem

Jason White
 

In Microsoft Word, use Insert+V for Quick Settings and check the translation table options.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Wednesday, 14 July 2021 16:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Braille problem

Hi all, I have a question here. My friend shared a copy of her Jaws configuration with me to diagnose a problem that occurred in her settings. I never experienced this problem before so therefore i need some help.
The problem is when she use her display to operate Jaws, it will display contracted braille everywhere she navigate her Jaws to but in microsoft Word.
i tried to solve the problem but I can't seem to track it down. If you know what is the problem, please respond to this email so I can adjust her settings back to where it suppose to be.
Thanks
Best regards
Michael Munn


Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia

www.nfbga.org


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind

www.nfb.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind

www.hadley.edu

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