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moderated Re: Recommendation: Open source screen reader program

Joe
 

I would echo the NVDA choice.  You can find a great deal of documentation on the screen reader.  Look at NV Access  https://www.nvaccess.org/  and Narrator is also a good choice as well with good documentation on its use.

Joe

 

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Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 4:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Recommendation: Open source screenreader program

 

Hi,

NVDA is open-source. For further details, let’s talk offlist and please subscribe to NVDA users list located at nvda.groups.io/g/nvda.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Recommendation: Open source screenreader program

 

Hello list members:

 

Since retiring I have been involved in a number of volunteer activities. Recently I had a conversation with a local agency who is looking for a volunteer to assist clients in completing an online registration form as part of an interview process regarding potential receipt of specific services.

I understand that I cannot legally use one of my additional Jaws licenses because I have the Home version. Truth to tell, other than JAWS, I have never really worked with any other screenreader programs. Some years ago, Idid a cursory  review of NVDA. I understand that Narrator has improved in some measurable ways. I know that there are other programs out there.

For purposes of this opportunity, where I would need to load a screenreading program onto a laptop in order to conduct the interviews, I am looking for any recommendations of open-source screen Reader programs.

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Best,  Justin  

moderated Re: Question about notifications

Jason White
 

Windows+a takes you to the Action Center, from which you can read recent notifications.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 9:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about notifications

 

Hi Listers,

 

I’m running Windows 10 and using JAWS 2020.

 

I haven’t gotten “NOTIFICATIONS” on my screen in a very long time. Now, I keep getting it but forgot how to read it. Can someone help?

 

Thanks.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

moderated Re: Recommendation: Open source screenreader program

 

Hi,

NVDA is open-source. For further details, let’s talk offlist and please subscribe to NVDA users list located at nvda.groups.io/g/nvda.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Recommendation: Open source screenreader program

 

Hello list members:

 

Since retiring I have been involved in a number of volunteer activities. Recently I had a conversation with a local agency who is looking for a volunteer to assist clients in completing an online registration form as part of an interview process regarding potential receipt of specific services.

I understand that I cannot legally use one of my additional Jaws licenses because I have the Home version. Truth to tell, other than JAWS, I have never really worked with any other screenreader programs. Some years ago, Idid a cursory  review of NVDA. I understand that Narrator has improved in some measurable ways. I know that there are other programs out there.

For purposes of this opportunity, where I would need to load a screenreading program onto a laptop in order to conduct the interviews, I am looking for any recommendations of open-source screen Reader programs.

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Best,  Justin  

moderated Recommendation: Open source screenreader program

Justin Mcdevitt
 

Hello list members:

 

Since retiring I have been involved in a number of volunteer activities. Recently I had a conversation with a local agency who is looking for a volunteer to assist clients in completing an online registration form as part of an interview process regarding potential receipt of specific services.

I understand that I cannot legally use one of my additional Jaws licenses because I have the Home version. Truth to tell, other than JAWS, I have never really worked with any other screenreader programs. Some years ago, Idid a cursory  review of NVDA. I understand that Narrator has improved in some measurable ways. I know that there are other programs out there.

For purposes of this opportunity, where I would need to load a screenreading program onto a laptop in order to conduct the interviews, I am looking for any recommendations of open-source screen Reader programs.

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Best,  Justin  

moderated Re: Windows upgrade;

 

On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 10:49 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
so make a backup
Period.  Having a regular, cyclic backup plan, while also taking on-demand additional full system image backups prior to things like upgrades, is essential if you care about your data.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Question about notifications

Shirley Tracy
 

Hi Listers,

 

I’m running Windows 10 and using JAWS 2020.

 

I haven’t gotten “NOTIFICATIONS” on my screen in a very long time. Now, I keep getting it but forgot how to read it. Can someone help?

 

Thanks.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

moderated Re: Accessible Twitter clients

Chris Hill
 

You may be right, digging through tw-blue, it seems like things are just thrown out in chronological order.  I guess that is better than nothing, but I think I'll just use my phone.

On 2/2/2020 06:02, Chris Hill wrote:
That's what I'm not getting is replies to tweets.  I never see them, so I suspect they aren't shown, which makes the whole thing pretty useless to me.  Sad, but the ios app is a more useful tool by far.



On 2/1/2020 22:15, Orlando Enrique Fiol via Groups.Io wrote:
At 10:47 PM 2/1/2020, Chris Hill wrote:
It is hard to get much out of twitter with tw-blue.  I have yet to
figure out how to actually follow a conversation with it, not for lack of trying.


You can follow conversations with the hotkey alt+windows+C. But the conversation gets displayed in its own buffer, which you can either access from the tree view or by moving the buffer focus with alt+windows+left-arrow. However, the conversation buffer only shows your conversation with a user, which is vastly different from a Twitter thread. I still can't figure out how to make TWBlue display complete threads. All I get are original tweets. I'm also speculating that TWBlue does in fact display replies to tweets, but rather than group them by thread, they're in chronological order.
Even so, it's hard to follow a thread when it's broken up over hundreds of tweets.
Orlando Enrique Fiol



moderated Re: Accessible Twitter clients

Chris Hill
 

That's what I'm not getting is replies to tweets.  I never see them, so I suspect they aren't shown, which makes the whole thing pretty useless to me.  Sad, but the ios app is a more useful tool by far.

On 2/1/2020 22:15, Orlando Enrique Fiol via Groups.Io wrote:
At 10:47 PM 2/1/2020, Chris Hill wrote:
It is hard to get much out of twitter with tw-blue.  I have yet to
figure out how to actually follow a conversation with it, not for lack of trying.


You can follow conversations with the hotkey alt+windows+C. But the conversation gets displayed in its own buffer, which you can either access from the tree view or by moving the buffer focus with alt+windows+left-arrow. However, the conversation buffer only shows your conversation with a user, which is vastly different from a Twitter thread. I still can't figure out how to make TWBlue display complete threads. All I get are original tweets. I'm also speculating that TWBlue does in fact display replies to tweets, but rather than group them by thread, they're in chronological order.
Even so, it's hard to follow a thread when it's broken up over hundreds of tweets.
Orlando Enrique Fiol


moderated Re: Accessible Twitter clients

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

At 10:47 PM 2/1/2020, Chris Hill wrote:
It is hard to get much out of twitter with tw-blue. I have yet to
figure out how to actually follow a conversation with it, not for lack of trying.


You can follow conversations with the hotkey alt+windows+C. But the conversation gets displayed in its own buffer, which you can either access from the tree view or by moving the buffer focus with alt+windows+left-arrow. However, the conversation buffer only shows your conversation with a user, which is vastly different from a Twitter thread. I still can't figure out how to make TWBlue display complete threads. All I get are original tweets. I'm also speculating that TWBlue does in fact display replies to tweets, but rather than group them by thread, they're in chronological order.
Even so, it's hard to follow a thread when it's broken up over hundreds of tweets.
Orlando Enrique Fiol

moderated Re: Windows upgrade;

Chris Hill
 

Some machines can't be upgraded.  I've usually found it out the hard way, so make a backup if you are going to try.

On 2/1/2020 15:29, david wrote:
Hi,

Support for Windows 7 has ended on Jan 14, 2020.

So this goes for anyone who is upgrading or going to upgrade their Windows

from 7 to latest Windows 10.

Mentioned Below are the basic requirements for upgrading to Windows 10.

Processor: 1.8 gigahertz (GHz) or faster processor

RAM: 4 gigabyte (GB) or above

Hard disk space: 500 GB or larger

Also some of us might still be using 2 GB of RAM and will think about

upgrading so as to install the latest Windows 10, before doing that please

confirm with your system manufacturer, weather your system support a higher

RAM or not.

If you have the above requirement then you can easily upgrade to Windows 10

and for upgrading you must have the licensed copy or an Activated Version of

the previous Windows 7 on your current computer.

To make sure that your system doesn't act in a sluggish way, keep the

Windows Update option always Turned On, so that all the necessary updates

and security patches are added automatically.

Note: if you're going to try the update process, I would make sure your
windows 7 machine is using a wired connection.

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209


this is a link to download the windows 10 media tool

       The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a
dream.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Facebook Messenger

the upgrade I heard about was for anyone on the same page where they
want you to buy it, I understand.

On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 17:41:21 -0500,
David Diamond wrote:
Perhaps a call to the Microsoft disability help desk might help. Just ask
if there is still the free upgrade for visually challenged individuals.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: January 31, 2020 2:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Facebook Messenger

I think there is still a free upgrade to Windows 10, just a bit harder to
find.
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 16:10:51 -0500,
Marty Hutchings wrote:
[1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] The free upgrade was
offered back when I was using JAWS 13, which would not have been
compatible with Windows 10.
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13


From: David Diamond
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 2:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Facebook Messenger

Could you not have taken advantage of the free upgrade that was offered
by Microsoft? Or, is your computer to old? I asked that, not to be a smart
ass, but, I tried to get my sister?s lap top upgraded from 8 to 10 and
Microsoft said it was too old to accept the upgrade. Having said that, I
managed to get a free lap top that according to a tech was a windows 7. It
got upgraded to 10. True, snails move faster then it boots up, but I
managed to scrape up enough funds to get a SSD put in it. Now it moves a
lot faster.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: January 31, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Facebook Messenger



Could someone please tell me how to view videos on facebook Messenger?
I am using JAWS 2019 on a Windows 7 machine. I know that I am supposed to
be upgrading to Windows 10, but don't have the funds.
Thank you.





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moderated Re: Accessible Twitter clients

Chris Hill
 

It is hard to get much out of twitter with tw-blue.  I have yet to figure out how to actually follow a conversation with it, not for lack of trying.

On 2/1/2020 20:51, Andy wrote:
I would say TW Blue.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "ann" <@etheria>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 2:08 PM
Subject: Accessible Twitter clients


Hi,


What is the most accessible Twitter client to use with the latest Jaws on a Windows 10 machine?


Thanks,

~Ann




moderated Re: Accessible Twitter clients

Andy
 

I would say TW Blue.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "ann" <@etheria>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 2:08 PM
Subject: Accessible Twitter clients


Hi,


What is the most accessible Twitter client to use with the latest Jaws on a Windows 10 machine?


Thanks,

~Ann


moderated Re: Accessible SSH-clients there work with JAWS

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  If you are inclined to Install Cygwin, then it is where you should go.  It has a native SSH client, and, it will allow you to work in a Linux environment on windows with very good results.  Acessibility is spot on.  Cheers!

On 2/2/2020 3:01 AM, Anders Boholdt-Petersen wrote:

Hi everyone

 

What SSH-clients do you can recommend if I will use it with the latest version of JAWS for Windows, and do you have experience with PuTTYgen, a freeware SSH-client?

 

Thanks in advance for your answer, and have a nice day.

 

Regards,

Anders

moderated Re: Accessible SSH-clients there work with JAWS

Jason White
 

I use the ssh client included in mysys2:

https://www.msys2.org/

 

Also, any ssh client run under Windows Subsystem for Linux should be fine.

 

There’s also a built-in ssh client in Windows 10. However, I can’t remember whether it emulates all of the terminal-related features that you’ll need if you’re working with a Linux or UNIX host. The other two options above definitely do.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 5:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible SSH-clients there work with JAWS

 

Hi Anders,

 

I use PuTTY for my college work with no issues once you install the recommended scripts. The link to the scripts and instructions is below:

https://github.com/munawarb/JAWS-PuTTY-Scripts/blob/master/README.md

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Anders Boholdt-Petersen
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 2:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Accessible SSH-clients there work with JAWS

 

Hi everyone

 

What SSH-clients do you can recommend if I will use it with the latest version of JAWS for Windows, and do you have experience with PuTTYgen, a freeware SSH-client?

 

Thanks in advance for your answer, and have a nice day.

 

Regards,

Anders

moderated Re: Jaws2019 disappearance

O.Addison Gethers
 

Ok Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2019 disappearance

 

Which is when you could have used Narrator to find out what is happening.

Control+Windows+enter to start or stop Narrator on Windows 10.

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 11:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2019 disappearance

 

KMCasey  I remember before I call microsoft disability support on Thursday morning trying to get helped with cd rive that say notification updated the cd drive when I insert the audio cd  so the man when on notification  to open folder  to do something  to get the audio cd to read Addison document from 2008 thru 2014  that when I find out Thursday afternoon that jaws2019  was acted kind of funny  so that when I opens my computer  then arrow down to local disc  then application key arrow up to scan with window defender  it started scan while I was eating supper so when I got back jaws was not saying nothing at all !!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 2:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2019 disappearance

 

I don’t have a specific answer to your question, but whenever JAWS craps out on me, I turn on Narrator to see if I can see what’s up. If there is some kind of message or error that needs my attention, narrator will read it. If Narrator doesn’t come up or doesn’t start talking, then, yeah, a restart might be required – that does happen, too. But Narrator is pretty reliable and 80% of the time I’d say comes up talking in less than a second.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: January 31, 2020 7:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws2019 disappearance

 

Hello All I couldn’t believe jaws2019 disappearance while I was doing windo defender to scan the local disc on yesterday evening  when I come back on computer after eating supper jaws was not saying anything at all when I press tab and press insert f12 for time then I type in window r jaws2019 press enter  nothing  so I shut down the computer then turns it badk on jaws come on  so it not jaws2019  that came back on it was jaws2018  !! Does anyone have any idea why jaws2019 disappearance or gone from the computer folder ? Does anyone have jaws2019  download links or repairs jaws2019 ?

I’m using desktop computer ,I was thinking about if I can get jaws2019  from laptop to put in desktop !!\

Addison

moderated Re: Accessible Twitter clients

Melissa Stott
 

I personally use TWBlue.

 

                .                               Melissa

 

From: ann
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessible Twitter clients

 

Hi,

 

 

What is the most accessible Twitter client to use with the latest Jaws

on a Windows 10 machine?

 

 

Thanks,

 

~Ann

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: Accessible Twitter clients

Peter op t Hof
 

Hi,


TWblue or now not updated anymore Chickennugget.


Op 1-2-2020 om 23:08 schreef ann:

Hi,


What is the most accessible Twitter client to use with the latest Jaws on a Windows 10 machine?


Thanks,

~Ann


moderated Re: Accessible SSH-clients there work with JAWS

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi Anders,

 

I use PuTTY for my college work with no issues once you install the recommended scripts. The link to the scripts and instructions is below:

https://github.com/munawarb/JAWS-PuTTY-Scripts/blob/master/README.md

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Anders Boholdt-Petersen
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 2:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Accessible SSH-clients there work with JAWS

 

Hi everyone

 

What SSH-clients do you can recommend if I will use it with the latest version of JAWS for Windows, and do you have experience with PuTTYgen, a freeware SSH-client?

 

Thanks in advance for your answer, and have a nice day.

 

Regards,

Anders

moderated Accessible Twitter clients

ann
 

Hi,


What is the most accessible Twitter client to use with the latest Jaws on a Windows 10 machine?


Thanks,

~Ann

moderated Re: Windows upgrade;

 

Hi,
Corrections:
* Processor: 1.0 GHz or faster (64-bit processor recommended with more
recent features such as virtualization)
* Storage: 32 GB or greater
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 1:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows upgrade;

Hi,

Support for Windows 7 has ended on Jan 14, 2020.

So this goes for anyone who is upgrading or going to upgrade their Windows

from 7 to latest Windows 10.

Mentioned Below are the basic requirements for upgrading to Windows 10.

Processor: 1.8 gigahertz (GHz) or faster processor

RAM: 4 gigabyte (GB) or above

Hard disk space: 500 GB or larger

Also some of us might still be using 2 GB of RAM and will think about

upgrading so as to install the latest Windows 10, before doing that please

confirm with your system manufacturer, weather your system support a higher

RAM or not.

If you have the above requirement then you can easily upgrade to Windows 10

and for upgrading you must have the licensed copy or an Activated Version of

the previous Windows 7 on your current computer.

To make sure that your system doesn't act in a sluggish way, keep the

Windows Update option always Turned On, so that all the necessary updates

and security patches are added automatically.

Note: if you're going to try the update process, I would make sure your
windows 7 machine is using a wired connection.

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209


this is a link to download the windows 10 media tool

       The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a
dream.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Facebook Messenger

the upgrade I heard about was for anyone on the same page where they want
you to buy it, I understand.

On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 17:41:21 -0500,
David Diamond wrote:

Perhaps a call to the Microsoft disability help desk might help. Just
ask
if there is still the free upgrade for visually challenged individuals.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: January 31, 2020 2:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Facebook Messenger

I think there is still a free upgrade to Windows 10, just a bit harder
to
find.

On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 16:10:51 -0500,
Marty Hutchings wrote:

[1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] The free upgrade was
offered back when I was using JAWS 13, which would not have been
compatible with Windows 10.

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able
to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13


From: David Diamond
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 2:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Facebook Messenger

Could you not have taken advantage of the free upgrade that was
offered
by Microsoft? Or, is your computer to old? I asked that, not to be a smart
ass, but, I tried to get my sister?s lap top upgraded from 8 to 10 and
Microsoft said it was too old to accept the upgrade. Having said that, I
managed to get a free lap top that according to a tech was a windows 7. It
got upgraded to 10. True, snails move faster then it boots up, but I
managed to scrape up enough funds to get a SSD put in it. Now it moves a
lot faster.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: January 31, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Facebook Messenger



Could someone please tell me how to view videos on facebook Messenger?
I am using JAWS 2019 on a Windows 7 machine. I know that I am supposed to
be upgrading to Windows 10, but don't have the funds.
Thank you.





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