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moderated Need to extend jFW functionality by scripts, how to do it efficiently

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Hello!

I want to write some scripts for JAWS, then share them with others. These scripts shall work with all applications, but I don’t want to break other peoples customizations, so putting this in the default file is out of the question. What else can I do?

moderated Re: A couple of Jaws problems

Dennis Brown
 

Cool!  I never thought about that.  Do you manually put the key assignment into the jkm?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 12:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A couple of Jaws problems

 

Dennis,

 

Here's a little better explanation.  When I want to add or modify a script I do the following.

1. Open the Jaws Manager, with, Insert + F2, & open the Scripts Manager.
2. With the Script Manager open press, Alt + F, for the file menu & press the letter, E, to open the Shared File folder, shift + tab into the list of shared folders, & navigate to the, My Extensions JSS file.
3. Open the My Extensions JSS file, press, Control + A to select all the contents, then paste the contents of the clipboard into Notepad.  In Notepad is where I do all my editing and when I get all my editing done, I copy all the content of the Notepad text to the clipboard, then I use the steps from #2 above to go back to the My Extensions.JSS file, open it and delete the contents, Paste my edited text, and now compile.  This way my default JKM file stays in tact and now the same keystroke opens the menu list without screwing with the default JKM file that's already in place.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 9:08 PM

Subject: Re: A couple of Jaws problems

 

Thanks, Mike.  I’ll take a look at this.

Dennis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A couple of Jaws problems

 

Hi Dennis,

 

When I add a script to My Extensions I do it manually because other info regarding the script needs to be added as well, then I put the whole file into the default and compile.  I can't explain this very well, but I'll send this message to someone that can.  In the meantime there's a download link below for 2 tutorials regarding the My Extensions & scripts.

 

 

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:48 AM

Subject: A couple of Jaws problems

 

Hi,

How do I get the Delete key to say “Delete?”

Second, When I put a script in MyExtensions.jss, then compile, then compile the default.jss (since it calls MyExtensions.jsb,) the script doesn’t work.

If I put it directly in Outlook script file, it does.

Other scripts in MyExtensions work, but some don’t.

I’ve made sure the keystroke isn’t being used elsewhere, but still no go.

Any ideas?

moderated Tyler Littlefield creates accessible Covid-19 statistics tracker - Blind Bargains

Richard Turner
 


https://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=21613


Richard

"Today's poop is tomorrow's fertilizer." -- Anonymous

(Sent from my iPhone SE)

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com


moderated Re: For Hank, RE: sorry I am off topic, re the blindtech list for from where please can I maybe buy a new voice activated dvd player or voice activated universal remote control

 

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 01:00 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
And another option on Groups.io is the Blind Help Project:  https://groups.io/g/bhp
I'm sorry I have to post this, but I retract any recommendation of the above mentioned group.  It is little beyond a den of software pirates, encouraging conversation of cracked versions of all sorts of software, including but not limited to JAWS.   I had not realized this upon joining and doing a quick reading of recent topics, but then the next flood of, "Is a cracked version of . . .?," conversations came flooding in.  Their own organization webpage openly hosts cracked software.

Avoid them like the plague.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: JAWS bug: wrong tip for one option in settings Center

 

And reporting this to,  support@..., is worth doing.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: JAWS bug: wrong tip for one option in settings Center

fenderwal@...
 

If you arrow to general> text processing, you will hear that same description about overall behavior. Looks like someone mislabeled detect keyboard language. The error exists as far back as JFW 18, for what it's worth.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS bug: wrong tip for one option in settings Center

Nothing really serious, but here it is:

Detect keyboard language has a label that says

Use the options in this group to control overall speech behavior.

That is not quite correct, is it?

moderated Re: Laptop bbattery status with JAWS

Pramit
 

Hi Chantal,

To check the battery status on your dell laptop press
Jaws Key + Shift + B

Pramit

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:07 AM Chantal Ferreira <chantalac.ferreira@...> wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Chantal Ferreira <chantalac.ferreira@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 13:53:23 +0200
Subject: Laptop battery status with JAWS 2020
Good day All

I have a quick question, how can I  check my battery status on my Dell
laptop with Jaws 2020?

Thank you in advance for any assistance.

--
Kind regards

Chantal



moderated New Mailing List to Discuss the Zoom Platform

David Goldfield
 

Hello. So many of us are spending more time in our homes. Some of us may be working from home while others, though they may not currently be employed,
are using their technology even more. So many individuals and organizations are hosting conferences using the Zoom Cloud Meetings platform. Many people
are receiving invitations to these conferences and are finding themselves using Zoom for the first time. While Zoom is very accessible with screen readers
there's still a lot to learn and many of us have questions that we would like answers to.

To that end I have created a mailing list for people to ask questions and to provide support on how to use the Zoom program.

I currently have just two rules that I'd like all users to follow.

1. All messages should be relevant to Zoom. This can include Zoom on Windows, Mac, iOS or Android.

2. No harassment or rudeness of any kind will be tolerated.

To join the group, send an email to

zoom-users+subscribe@groups.io

To send a message to the group the email address to use is

zoom-users@groups.io

Happy Zooming!

--
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidgoldfield.org%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C2f07efc9dd3647b2b6c608d7d46a7583%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637211426003486676&amp;sdata=zBVRGd5R8%2FBpUW7AhBJv4x7TkOtSf4m%2BOfWmJv7VOnM%3D&amp;reserved=0

moderated Re: A couple of Jaws problems

Mike B
 

Dennis,
 
Here's a little better explanation.  When I want to add or modify a script I do the following.
1. Open the Jaws Manager, with, Insert + F2, & open the Scripts Manager.
2. With the Script Manager open press, Alt + F, for the file menu & press the letter, E, to open the Shared File folder, shift + tab into the list of shared folders, & navigate to the, My Extensions JSS file.
3. Open the My Extensions JSS file, press, Control + A to select all the contents, then paste the contents of the clipboard into Notepad.  In Notepad is where I do all my editing and when I get all my editing done, I copy all the content of the Notepad text to the clipboard, then I use the steps from #2 above to go back to the My Extensions.JSS file, open it and delete the contents, Paste my edited text, and now compile.  This way my default JKM file stays in tact and now the same keystroke opens the menu list without screwing with the default JKM file that's already in place.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: A couple of Jaws problems

Thanks, Mike.  I’ll take a look at this.

Dennis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A couple of Jaws problems

 

Hi Dennis,

 

When I add a script to My Extensions I do it manually because other info regarding the script needs to be added as well, then I put the whole file into the default and compile.  I can't explain this very well, but I'll send this message to someone that can.  In the meantime there's a download link below for 2 tutorials regarding the My Extensions & scripts.

 

 

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

----- Original Message -----

From: Dennis Brown

Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:48 AM

Subject: A couple of Jaws problems

 

Hi,

How do I get the Delete key to say “Delete?”

Second, When I put a script in MyExtensions.jss, then compile, then compile the default.jss (since it calls MyExtensions.jsb,) the script doesn’t work.

If I put it directly in Outlook script file, it does.

Other scripts in MyExtensions work, but some don’t.

I’ve made sure the keystroke isn’t being used elsewhere, but still no go.

Any ideas?

moderated Re: A couple of Jaws problems

Dennis Brown
 

Thanks, Mike.  I’ll take a look at this.

Dennis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A couple of Jaws problems

 

Hi Dennis,

 

When I add a script to My Extensions I do it manually because other info regarding the script needs to be added as well, then I put the whole file into the default and compile.  I can't explain this very well, but I'll send this message to someone that can.  In the meantime there's a download link below for 2 tutorials regarding the My Extensions & scripts.

 

 

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:48 AM

Subject: A couple of Jaws problems

 

Hi,

How do I get the Delete key to say “Delete?”

Second, When I put a script in MyExtensions.jss, then compile, then compile the default.jss (since it calls MyExtensions.jsb,) the script doesn’t work.

If I put it directly in Outlook script file, it does.

Other scripts in MyExtensions work, but some don’t.

I’ve made sure the keystroke isn’t being used elsewhere, but still no go.

Any ideas?

moderated Re: Laptop bbattery status with JAWS

Milton Ota
 

Hi,

The keystroke is JAWS key or Insert + Shift + B

HTH

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chantal Ferreira
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 7:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Laptop bbattery status with JAWS

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Chantal Ferreira <chantalac.ferreira@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 13:53:23 +0200
Subject: Laptop battery status with JAWS 2020 Good day All

I have a quick question, how can I check my battery status on my Dell laptop with Jaws 2020?

Thank you in advance for any assistance.

--
Kind regards

Chantal

moderated Laptop bbattery status with JAWS

Chantal Ferreira
 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Chantal Ferreira <chantalac.ferreira@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 13:53:23 +0200
Subject: Laptop battery status with JAWS 2020
Good day All

I have a quick question, how can I check my battery status on my Dell
laptop with Jaws 2020?

Thank you in advance for any assistance.

--
Kind regards

Chantal

moderated Re: QCast?

David Diamond
 

Thanks.  As for the other message about JAWS and the space key, it works the same way as exiting JAWS to silence the speech.  So, I will try your way the next time JAWS freezes up or goes silent for no reason. 

moderated Re: QCast?

David Diamond
 

Question, would the turning off of JAWS speech mute other sounds as well?  What I was doing before was just exiting JAWS then when needed using the shortcut I created for JAWS and turning JAWS back on. 

moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

JM Casey
 

Hello mario.
Unfortunately this was a while ago and I did not document what I had done.
However, I know I got rid of the portable music plugin, as well as the gracenote one. Possibly the library as well as I don't use it. I had an issue for a while there where winamp was taking a really long time to open; getting rid of unnecessary plugins seemed to fix this.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: March 28, 2020 11:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

JM, I'm curious, what plugins did you get rid of to make Winamp a bit more stable, and what other things did you do?

-------- Original Message --------
From: JM Casey [mailto:jmcasey@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, March 28, 2020, 9:21 AM
Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?
Hey David.

Regarding winamp, there were a few things I did to set it up that made it work better – iE, getting rid of some dead plugins. I also use windows now to add stuff to playlists instead of doing this within the programme itself; it seems a bit more stable. Anyway, nothing wrong with having multiple players on your computer, either – I use VLC for video; winamp for audio (keep considering switching to foobar and not doing it).

As for the VLC preferences, I used to be able to do what you are describing. For quite some time now though, opening preferences (or in fact any of the other dialogue screens) does not give any feedback at all. As far as I know they are visually open, but screen-readers say nothing. I don’t know when this started but I feel like it was prior to the latest version being installed, which I have done. There must be some setting that has altered which is not revealing this info to my screen0-reader, but I am really not sure what it could be or what I must change. Would be nice, though, if I knew.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *David Griffith
*Sent:* March 27, 2020 9:17 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

As far as I am aware I don’t have any problem accessing preferences in VLC with either Jaws or NVDA. I just hit control P and tab through the options.

It may be that there are parts I am missing that I am not aware of though? What is the problem for you?

I have resisted upgrading to the absolutely latest version of VLC I am still on 3.0.7.1.

I am glad others are still having a good experience with WinAmp. For me on several Windows installs on both my Desktop and Laptop I was experiencing lockup and crashes apart from the problem not playing some modern radio streams which VLC seemed to have no problem with. This experience made me personally think it was time to move on to something that was still being developed and supported.

David Griffith


David Griffith

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

*From: *JM Casey <mailto:jmcasey@...>
*Sent: *27 March 2020 16:35
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

nVDA still won't read preferences etc though for me. Does it work for you? Otherwise, yeah there is certainly more feedback for status and things like that.

I have no trouble with Winamp and the latest build of windows 10, and I use it for audio -- but I play a lot of vieos and VLC is hands down the best player I have found for that. There's a lot of power under the hood and really I've only scratched the surface.

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of David Griffith

Sent: March 27, 2020 10:38 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

There are masses of keystroke which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts providing information.

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

As a guide to what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10, and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

David Griffith

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54

To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>

Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

JM Casey
 

“program files” if 64 bit; “program files (x86)” if 32 bit.

However windows should take care of this automatically. Haven’t come across an instance where a programme is installed in the wrong folder, I don’t think.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: March 29, 2020 4:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

What folder do I put v l c in when installing?  The put in folder line is bland and there is a braws button.  I always seen some pre folder in a install of a program.

 

Help please.

 

thanks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: March 29, 2020 13:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Heya. Nope, no luck with jaws cursor at all and I’m one of those people on Windows 10 who can still use it for a lot of things. Only was able to get some additional info using touch cursor. It wasn’t too nice though…not recommending. Mind you, JAWS now has the scan cursor also to take the place of jaws cursor in certain instances. I don’t have JFW 2020 so, maybe someone could get better results with that.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: March 28, 2020 11:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Which makes me wonder if the Jaws cursor would make this info readible within Vlc?

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

 

El 28 mar 2020, a la(s) 8:43 a.m., JM Casey <jmcasey@...> escribió:



I feel like some months ago I was able to read some of this info using the touch cursor, but it is hardly the most practical solution when trying to listen/watch a video etc, so yeah…that’d be nice.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: March 28, 2020 8:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

What I’d like to be able to do with Jaws and Vlc, is to see how long the audio is, how much time remains, like with the competitor’s.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel



El 27 mar 2020, a la(s) 7:17 p.m., David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> escribió:



As far as I am aware I don’t have any problem accessing preferences in VLC with either Jaws or NVDA. I just hit control P and tab through the  options.

It may be that there are parts I am missing that I  am not aware of though? What is the problem for you?

I have resisted upgrading to the absolutely latest version  of VLC I am still on 3.0.7.1.

I am glad others are still having a good experience with WinAmp. For me on several Windows installs on both my Desktop and Laptop I was experiencing lockup and crashes apart from the problem not playing some modern radio streams which VLC seemed to have no problem with. This experience made me personally think it was time to move on to something that was still being developed and supported.

David Griffith


David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 27 March 2020 16:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

nVDA still won't read preferences etc though for me. Does it work for you? Otherwise, yeah  there is certainly more feedback for status and things like that.

 

I have no trouble with Winamp and the latest build of windows 10, and I use it for audio -- but I play a lot of vieos and VLC is hands down the best player I have found for that. There's a lot of power under the hood and really I've only scratched the surface.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith

Sent: March 27, 2020 10:38 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

 

There are masses of keystroke  which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts  providing information.

 

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

 

As a guide to  what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

 

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

 

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10,  and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

 

David Griffith

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54

To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

JM Casey
 

Huh. Well that is something I can say has never happened to me. I’m annoyed that I can’t adjust the equalizer; that is my biggest beef with the programme right now, especially as I used to be able to. Actaully VLC never made it easy for you to save your own eq settings either, which is one drawback. But yeah it’s never not played media. I wonder what is up with that. May seem a bit obvious but, did you look in sndvol to see what level vlc app was set at?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: March 29, 2020 5:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

It is a supreme irony that as this discussion has started my version of VLC has suddenly gone silent on me and is refusing to play any media.

Restarting and uninstalling and re-installing VLC has not cured whatever the issue is.

 

I have re-installed WinAmp to go back to the future  and so far that is working.

Luckily I can still use Speak On to get the variable audio speed playback  feature that was so  well implemented in VLC.

David Griffith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith via Groups.Io
Sent: 29 March 2020 22:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

 

You should just be able to go with defaults  in the VLC install -  but if it is still a problem  download the version from

https://ninite.com/accessible

 

which provides a silent installer which requires no intervention from yourself apart from launching the install.

David Griffith

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: 29 March 2020 21:14
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

What folder do I put v l c in when installing?  The put in folder line is bland and there is a braws button.  I always seen some pre folder in a install of a program.

 

Help please.

 

thanks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: March 29, 2020 13:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Heya. Nope, no luck with jaws cursor at all and I’m one of those people on Windows 10 who can still use it for a lot of things. Only was able to get some additional info using touch cursor. It wasn’t too nice though…not recommending. Mind you, JAWS now has the scan cursor also to take the place of jaws cursor in certain instances. I don’t have JFW 2020 so, maybe someone could get better results with that.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: March 28, 2020 11:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Which makes me wonder if the Jaws cursor would make this info readible within Vlc?

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

 

El 28 mar 2020, a la(s) 8:43 a.m., JM Casey <jmcasey@...> escribió:



I feel like some months ago I was able to read some of this info using the touch cursor, but it is hardly the most practical solution when trying to listen/watch a video etc, so yeah…that’d be nice.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: March 28, 2020 8:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

What I’d like to be able to do with Jaws and Vlc, is to see how long the audio is, how much time remains, like with the competitor’s.

Gera

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El 27 mar 2020, a la(s) 7:17 p.m., David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> escribió:



As far as I am aware I don’t have any problem accessing preferences in VLC with either Jaws or NVDA. I just hit control P and tab through the  options.

It may be that there are parts I am missing that I  am not aware of though? What is the problem for you?

I have resisted upgrading to the absolutely latest version  of VLC I am still on 3.0.7.1.

I am glad others are still having a good experience with WinAmp. For me on several Windows installs on both my Desktop and Laptop I was experiencing lockup and crashes apart from the problem not playing some modern radio streams which VLC seemed to have no problem with. This experience made me personally think it was time to move on to something that was still being developed and supported.

David Griffith


David Griffith

 

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From: JM Casey
Sent: 27 March 2020 16:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

nVDA still won't read preferences etc though for me. Does it work for you? Otherwise, yeah  there is certainly more feedback for status and things like that.

 

I have no trouble with Winamp and the latest build of windows 10, and I use it for audio -- but I play a lot of vieos and VLC is hands down the best player I have found for that. There's a lot of power under the hood and really I've only scratched the surface.

 

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith

Sent: March 27, 2020 10:38 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

 

There are masses of keystroke  which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts  providing information.

 

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

 

As a guide to  what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

 

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

 

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10,  and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

 

David Griffith

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54

To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

David Griffith
 

It is a supreme irony that as this discussion has started my version of VLC has suddenly gone silent on me and is refusing to play any media.

Restarting and uninstalling and re-installing VLC has not cured whatever the issue is.

 

I have re-installed WinAmp to go back to the future  and so far that is working.

Luckily I can still use Speak On to get the variable audio speed playback  feature that was so  well implemented in VLC.

David Griffith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith via Groups.Io
Sent: 29 March 2020 22:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

 

You should just be able to go with defaults  in the VLC install -  but if it is still a problem  download the version from

https://ninite.com/accessible

 

which provides a silent installer which requires no intervention from yourself apart from launching the install.

David Griffith

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: 29 March 2020 21:14
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

What folder do I put v l c in when installing?  The put in folder line is bland and there is a braws button.  I always seen some pre folder in a install of a program.

 

Help please.

 

thanks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: March 29, 2020 13:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Heya. Nope, no luck with jaws cursor at all and I’m one of those people on Windows 10 who can still use it for a lot of things. Only was able to get some additional info using touch cursor. It wasn’t too nice though…not recommending. Mind you, JAWS now has the scan cursor also to take the place of jaws cursor in certain instances. I don’t have JFW 2020 so, maybe someone could get better results with that.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: March 28, 2020 11:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Which makes me wonder if the Jaws cursor would make this info readible within Vlc?

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

 

El 28 mar 2020, a la(s) 8:43 a.m., JM Casey <jmcasey@...> escribió:



I feel like some months ago I was able to read some of this info using the touch cursor, but it is hardly the most practical solution when trying to listen/watch a video etc, so yeah…that’d be nice.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: March 28, 2020 8:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

What I’d like to be able to do with Jaws and Vlc, is to see how long the audio is, how much time remains, like with the competitor’s.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel



El 27 mar 2020, a la(s) 7:17 p.m., David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> escribió:



As far as I am aware I don’t have any problem accessing preferences in VLC with either Jaws or NVDA. I just hit control P and tab through the  options.

It may be that there are parts I am missing that I  am not aware of though? What is the problem for you?

I have resisted upgrading to the absolutely latest version  of VLC I am still on 3.0.7.1.

I am glad others are still having a good experience with WinAmp. For me on several Windows installs on both my Desktop and Laptop I was experiencing lockup and crashes apart from the problem not playing some modern radio streams which VLC seemed to have no problem with. This experience made me personally think it was time to move on to something that was still being developed and supported.

David Griffith


David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 27 March 2020 16:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

nVDA still won't read preferences etc though for me. Does it work for you? Otherwise, yeah  there is certainly more feedback for status and things like that.

 

I have no trouble with Winamp and the latest build of windows 10, and I use it for audio -- but I play a lot of vieos and VLC is hands down the best player I have found for that. There's a lot of power under the hood and really I've only scratched the surface.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith

Sent: March 27, 2020 10:38 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

 

There are masses of keystroke  which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts  providing information.

 

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

 

As a guide to  what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

 

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

 

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10,  and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

 

David Griffith

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54

To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

David Griffith
 

 

You should just be able to go with defaults  in the VLC install -  but if it is still a problem  download the version from

https://ninite.com/accessible

 

which provides a silent installer which requires no intervention from yourself apart from launching the install.

David Griffith

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: 29 March 2020 21:14
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

What folder do I put v l c in when installing?  The put in folder line is bland and there is a braws button.  I always seen some pre folder in a install of a program.

 

Help please.

 

thanks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: March 29, 2020 13:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Heya. Nope, no luck with jaws cursor at all and I’m one of those people on Windows 10 who can still use it for a lot of things. Only was able to get some additional info using touch cursor. It wasn’t too nice though…not recommending. Mind you, JAWS now has the scan cursor also to take the place of jaws cursor in certain instances. I don’t have JFW 2020 so, maybe someone could get better results with that.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: March 28, 2020 11:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Which makes me wonder if the Jaws cursor would make this info readible within Vlc?

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

 

El 28 mar 2020, a la(s) 8:43 a.m., JM Casey <jmcasey@...> escribió:



I feel like some months ago I was able to read some of this info using the touch cursor, but it is hardly the most practical solution when trying to listen/watch a video etc, so yeah…that’d be nice.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: March 28, 2020 8:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

What I’d like to be able to do with Jaws and Vlc, is to see how long the audio is, how much time remains, like with the competitor’s.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel



El 27 mar 2020, a la(s) 7:17 p.m., David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> escribió:



As far as I am aware I don’t have any problem accessing preferences in VLC with either Jaws or NVDA. I just hit control P and tab through the  options.

It may be that there are parts I am missing that I  am not aware of though? What is the problem for you?

I have resisted upgrading to the absolutely latest version  of VLC I am still on 3.0.7.1.

I am glad others are still having a good experience with WinAmp. For me on several Windows installs on both my Desktop and Laptop I was experiencing lockup and crashes apart from the problem not playing some modern radio streams which VLC seemed to have no problem with. This experience made me personally think it was time to move on to something that was still being developed and supported.

David Griffith


David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 27 March 2020 16:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

nVDA still won't read preferences etc though for me. Does it work for you? Otherwise, yeah  there is certainly more feedback for status and things like that.

 

I have no trouble with Winamp and the latest build of windows 10, and I use it for audio -- but I play a lot of vieos and VLC is hands down the best player I have found for that. There's a lot of power under the hood and really I've only scratched the surface.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith

Sent: March 27, 2020 10:38 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

 

There are masses of keystroke  which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts  providing information.

 

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

 

As a guide to  what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

 

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

 

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10,  and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

 

David Griffith

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54

To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: JAWS leaving out spaces between words. situation

Richard Turner
 

Another thought, do you have each character being echoed as you type?

What is the processor speed?

If it isn’t the keyboard, it could be that you are getting ahead of what can be processed by your computer.  I don’t know if having Jaws echo each character would slow down the processing enough to make this an issue, but just a thought.

I only have words spoken and I type close to 100 words a minute and have never experienced this issue.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS leaving out spaces between words. situation

 

Another thing I would try is a different keyboard.  It may be that you have just worn out the Space bar.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
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Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 12:06 PM

Subject: Re: JAWS leaving out spaces between words. situation

 

The first thing I would check is to make sure the edit windows are maximized, Windows key + up arrow.


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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 9:52 AM

Subject: JAWS leaving out spaces between words. situation

 

Hello list members,

For the last  week or so, when I am typing an email, or document in word, (using JAWS , there are frequent instances in which the space between words is left out, and so I have to go back through the document/message and insert the space.

FYI: I am using JAWS 2020, though this was happening with JAWS 2019 as well.  

Is there a setting that I can add or change to reduce the occurrence of this Issue. This is really frustrating!

Best, Justin