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I would think that if you go the annual subscription route for Jaws if you did not pay up for another year your Jaws would stop working or turn into a demo. That would only makke sense.
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Hi Gerald, I may have this wrong, but I think if you buy their one year subscription, that after the one year your annual license will expire and you will no longer be able to use that version of jaws. That’s how it reads to me when I’m looking at their website , otherwise if you could get a copy of jaws for $90 that you could continue to use why would anyone buy the full version for almost $1000. I think this annual thing is more like renting jaws from them, and I guess its to help people who can’t afford to splash out almost $1000 to buy jaws outright. Again, I could be wrong, but that’s how I thought this new scheme would work, which would make sense since it’s a subscription service and I don’t know of any other subscription service that lets you keep using it once your subscription runs out, although I wish some of mine did ha-ha Paul
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: 02 November 2018 21:22
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription I thought of a suggestion for beating Vispero at its own game. Instead of buying a one year license every year, why not consider buying a one year license every two years instead? So if you purchase a one year license for JAWS 2019, consider skipping JAWS 2020, unless it has some new feature you feel that you must absolutely have, and buy a one year license again when JAWS 2021 is released. This way, you have the benefit of keeping JAWS reasonably up to date and slashing yourannual cost for JAWS in half. As JAWS 2019 demonstrates, Vispero is finally running out of ideas for new whiz bang features, and is concentrating more on bug fixes and minor enhancements, some of which may be of dubious value. So just buy a one year license in odd years, or even years, whichever you prefer. Some users have reported that JAWS versions released in odd years have fewer bugs than those released in even years, while others have reported just the opposite. Take your pick. In any case, it’s like having your cake and eating it, too. So instead of being a slave to the annual update, stick it to Vispero instead. Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription As others have pointed out many times, no one’s making you use Jaws. NVDA’s nice and free. I’m primarily a Jaws user and use NVDA mainly in a pinch or if Jaws has frozen on me, but I still donate to the NVDA project. It’s good that there’s an option for those who don’t have the means for commercial screen readers and alternatives are always good. But yes, please come back with some sort of line of how NVDA is a public project that can be abandoned at any time blah blah blah. From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription According to Eric, the advantage of buying a five year license is that it protects you against future price increases. So if you buy a five year license now for $450, which works out to $90 a year, and Vispero decides next year to raise the price of a one year license to $100, you are locked in to the cheaper price for five years. What a swell bunch of guys! Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Don't forget the interest on the money if customers decide to pay for the additional years. The are laughing all the way to the bank. In addition, it is a case of having their cake and eating it! ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 3:21 PM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription You’re absolutely right. To me, the five year license is nothing but a scam to get customers to pay upfront so that Vispero has the use of these funds immediately. If they were really concerned about their customers who live on fixed incomes, they would offer a discount of say, 10% or 15% if you buy a five years license so that it would cost only $400 instead of $450, as a gesture of good faith to their long-term customers. Again, I see no advantage paying $450 up front for a five year license when buying an annual license every year for the next five years would cost exactly the same. Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 11:06 AM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription It seems to me that if and when the SMA program is terminated, the least they can do is discount the licenses with additional years. Has Freedom Scientific/VFO/Vispero forgotten that most blind people don't have a lot of money since so many of us are not employed or receive our JAWS from agencies? Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. ~ Blaise Pascal ~ On 11/1/2018 9:53 PM, cecropia64 wrote: seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose of this?� Stew On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote: Thanks, Michael. � It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA system. � Is this correct? � I do have one concern, though. � $90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December 31. � � Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Michael: � Where did you get this info? � I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence. � I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if possible. � Thanks for the help! � Tom Behler � � � Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home users in the United States. Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your license at the end of your initial term. With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have access to all upgrades released during your license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft Office�, your browser, and other applications you may use. JAWS License Comparison What's Next? After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one later. When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in � your license will be available. JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows operating system. Refer Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Hello, everyone. � I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with the release of Jaws 2019. � Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point. � Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for $120. � If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to learn about it. � Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan � �
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no, the serial number will not allow anyone to steal jaws. an authorization number is required and its 20 characters long. Legend has it that on Friday 11/2/2018 01:27 AM, Angel said: ---------------------------------------- I don't think we should be telling the list our
Jaws serial numbers. Couldn't those who wish to
steal Jaws take advantage of knowing them?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Hicks" <bob@seeinghandassociation.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws
With 48264 I am way behind!
Have a great day, 73
Bob Hicks, KC8CR
Windows 7 and 10 home 64 bit
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 12:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws
Hey Ward,
For me it was also Jaws for DOS back in September or October of 1989.
I then had Jaws for Windows from the first
release in the early 90's with Windows 3.1, then
3.11 and of course with Windows 95, 98 and 98SE
things really started getting more serious.
Sounds like we have most of these young guys on
the list beat, but let's see, what is your Jaws
serial number? I have serial number 1056 and
that has been my serial number for the last almost 30 years.
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ward Dudley
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 7:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws
Jaws for DOS.
Ward
On 10/31/2018 5:30 PM, Larry Gassman wrote:
I don't remember the exact version but it was 1997. So it had to be
around 2. something.
Larry
At 03:17 PM 10/31/2018, you wrote:
I started with JAWS 3.1.
Maria Campbell
<mailto:lucky1inct@gmail.com>lucky1inct@gmail.com
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 10/31/2018 6:15 PM, Michael Munn wrote:
Man! You'all had been using Jaws for a long time. I had been using
Jaws for only 2 years. My first Jaws version was Jaws17. I learned
my command from other screen reader. You know that all screen
reader have the same element. T for table H for heading and B for
button... I was a former Window-eyes user for couple months.Â
"If a person must be blind, it is better to be blind in Iowa than
anywhere else in the nation or in the world."
Harold Russell,Â
Des MoinesÂ
1968
Michael Munn
Member:
Virginia Association of Blind Student Delegate:Â Â Virginia
Association of Blind Student Student of:
Hadley Institute for the Blind
<http://www.hadley.edu>;www.hadley.edu
Email address:
<mailto:michaelrbms@gmail.com>michaelrbms@gmail.com
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 5:05 PM David Moore
<<mailto:jesusloves1966@gmail.com>jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
My first version of JAWS was 3.7.
I began using that version when I went back to Ohio State University
in 2002!
David Moore
Sent from <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>;Mail for
Windows 10
Â
From: <mailto:northstarr1950@gmail.com>ratshtron
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:59 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws
Â
hmmm, my first jaws was 2.0.
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Actually, I make donations to NVDA as my JAWS backup.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/2/2018 6:11 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
15 whole dollars. You’re showing them. You
could also really stick it to them by switching over to NVDA
and pay nothing at all. Then you could tell the big bad
Vispero folks… Who’s your daddy!
Good God.
Actually, that's even less expensive than the SMA, since it
makes it $45 per year. Hmm.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/2/2018 5:25 PM, Maria Campbell
wrote:
I'll keep that in mind when they yank the SMA.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/2/2018 5:22 PM, Gerald Levy
wrote:
I thought of a suggestion for
beating Vispero at its own game. Instead of buying
a one year license every year, why not consider
buying a one year license every two years instead?
So if you purchase a one year license for JAWS 2019,
consider skipping JAWS 2020, unless it has some new
feature you feel that you must absolutely have, and
buy a one year license again when JAWS 2021 is
released. This way, you have the benefit of keeping
JAWS reasonably up to date and slashing yourannual
cost for JAWS in half. As JAWS 2019 demonstrates,
Vispero is finally running out of ideas for new whiz
bang features, and is concentrating more on bug
fixes and minor enhancements, some of which may be
of dubious value. So just buy a one year license in
odd years, or even years, whichever you prefer.
Some users have reported that JAWS versions released
in odd years have fewer bugs than those released in
even years, while others have reported just the
opposite. Take your pick. In any case, it’s like
having your cake and eating it, too. So instead of
being a slave to the annual update, stick it to
Vispero instead.
Sent: Friday,
November 02, 2018 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Need
Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
As others have pointed out many
times, no one’s making you use Jaws. NVDA’s nice
and free. I’m primarily a Jaws user and use NVDA
mainly in a pinch or if Jaws has frozen on me, but
I still donate to the NVDA project. It’s good that
there’s an option for those who don’t have the
means for commercial screen readers and
alternatives are always good. But yes, please come
back with some sort of line of how NVDA is a
public project that can be abandoned at any time
blah blah blah.
According to Eric, the
advantage of buying a five year license is
that it protects you against future price
increases. So if you buy a five year
license now for $450, which works out to $90
a year, and Vispero decides next year to
raise the price of a one year license to
$100, you are locked in to the cheaper price
for five years. What a swell bunch of guys!
Sent:
Friday, November 02, 2018 2:55 PM
Subject: Re:
Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Don't forget the
interest on the money if customers decide
to pay for the additional years.
The are laughing all
the way to the bank. In addition, it is a
case of having their cake and eating it!
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Friday,
November 02, 2018 3:21 PM
Subject: Re:
Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
You’re absolutely
right. To me, the five year license
is nothing but a scam to get
customers to pay upfront so that
Vispero has the use of these funds
immediately. If they were really
concerned about their customers who
live on fixed incomes, they would
offer a discount of say, 10% or 15%
if you buy a five years license so
that it would cost only $400 instead
of $450, as a gesture of good faith
to their long-term customers.
Again, I see no advantage paying
$450 up front for a five year
license when buying an annual
license every year for the next five
years would cost exactly the same.
Sent:
Friday, November 02, 2018
11:06 AM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New Annual
Jaws Home Subscription
It seems to me that if and when the
SMA program is terminated, the least
they can do is discount the licenses
with additional years. Has Freedom
Scientific/VFO/Vispero forgotten
that most blind people don't have a
lot of money since so many of us are
not employed or receive our JAWS
from agencies?
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/1/2018
9:53 PM, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system
is going to be more expensive by a
lot.� With a sma, you are only
paying sixty dollars a year.�
But if the prices quoted are
correct, you'll be paying ninety
dollars a year and it goes up from
there.� What is the purpose of
this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018
9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Thanks,
Michael.
�
It seems to
me that this new system will
replace the older SMA system.
�
Is this
correct?
�
I do have
one concern, though.
�
$90 a year
doesn�t seem to be that
great of a deal, since back in
2016, I got two years of Jaws
for $120, as long as I
purchased the license by
December 31.
�
�
Sent:
Thursday, November 1,
2018 11:20 AM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New
Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Michael:
�
Where did
you get this info?
�
I�m
asking because the explanation
seemed to end in mid sentence.
�
I�d like
to get the full explanation of
the various Jaws home options
if possible.
�
Thanks for
the help!
�
Tom Behler
�
�
�
Stay current with the
latest version of JAWS, the
world's most popular screen
reader, with an affordable,
annual license now available
for home users in the United
States. Choose
between a one-, three-,
or five-year option,
with the ability to easily
renew your license at the
end of your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual
license you will always have
the most up-to-date version
of JAWS, and will not have
to pay for an upgrade to get
new versions when they
release � you have access
to all upgrades released
during your license term.
Having access to new
versions of JAWS as they
become available is
essential to ensure the
ability to use your computer
with the continuous updates
of Microsoft Windows�,
Microsoft Office�, your
browser, and other
applications you may use.
JAWS
License Comparison
What's Next?
After purchasing your JAWS
Home Annual license, you
will receive an email with
instructions and a link to
register on the Freedom
Scientific Licensing Portal,
which allows you to access
and manage your software
licenses, and provides a
simple way to install and
activate your software. Your
license can be installed on
up to 3 of your computers
and using the portal, you
can easily remove your
license from one computer
and put it on a new one
later.
When registering on the
Licensing Portal, make sure
to use the same email
address you used to purchase
your license; if you have
already registered from
previous purchases, simply
select the link you receive
and sign in � your license
will be available.
JAWS Home is intended for
use by end-users for
personal, non-commercial use
only and runs on all
currently supported versions
of the Windows operating
system. Refer
Sent:
Thursday, November 1,
2018 10:53 AM
Subject:
Need Details On New
Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Hello,
everyone.
�
I have been
reading bits and pieces of
info, but can�t seem to find
a nice concise summary of the
new Jaws annual home license
that apparently is now
available with the release of
Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019
is the last Jaws upgrade on my
SMA, so I will need to do
something to renew it at some
point.
�
Up until
now, I�ve renewed my Jaws
Home SMA for a two-year period
for $120.
�
If there
now is a more economical way
to do this, I�d certainly
love to learn about it.
�
Dr.� Tom
Behler from Michigan
�
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No, just a list member getting very fed up with the long string of
repetitive contributions.
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From: Maria
Campbell
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 3:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Are you a moderator?
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/2/2018 6:06 PM, Don Walls wrote:
This thread seems to be degenerating into a series of rants.
Perhaps time to retire it?
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15 whole dollars. You’re showing them. You could also really stick it to them by switching over to NVDA and pay nothing at all. Then you could tell the big bad Vispero folks… Who’s your daddy! Good God.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 2:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Actually, that's even less expensive than the SMA, since it makes it $45 per year. Hmm. Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. ~ Blaise Pascal ~ On 11/2/2018 5:25 PM, Maria Campbell wrote: I'll keep that in mind when they yank the SMA. Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. ~ Blaise Pascal ~ On 11/2/2018 5:22 PM, Gerald Levy wrote: I thought of a suggestion for beating Vispero at its own game. Instead of buying a one year license every year, why not consider buying a one year license every two years instead? So if you purchase a one year license for JAWS 2019, consider skipping JAWS 2020, unless it has some new feature you feel that you must absolutely have, and buy a one year license again when JAWS 2021 is released. This way, you have the benefit of keeping JAWS reasonably up to date and slashing yourannual cost for JAWS in half. As JAWS 2019 demonstrates, Vispero is finally running out of ideas for new whiz bang features, and is concentrating more on bug fixes and minor enhancements, some of which may be of dubious value. So just buy a one year license in odd years, or even years, whichever you prefer. Some users have reported that JAWS versions released in odd years have fewer bugs than those released in even years, while others have reported just the opposite. Take your pick. In any case, it’s like having your cake and eating it, too. So instead of being a slave to the annual update, stick it to Vispero instead. Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription As others have pointed out many times, no one’s making you use Jaws. NVDA’s nice and free. I’m primarily a Jaws user and use NVDA mainly in a pinch or if Jaws has frozen on me, but I still donate to the NVDA project. It’s good that there’s an option for those who don’t have the means for commercial screen readers and alternatives are always good. But yes, please come back with some sort of line of how NVDA is a public project that can be abandoned at any time blah blah blah. According to Eric, the advantage of buying a five year license is that it protects you against future price increases. So if you buy a five year license now for $450, which works out to $90 a year, and Vispero decides next year to raise the price of a one year license to $100, you are locked in to the cheaper price for five years. What a swell bunch of guys! Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Don't forget the interest on the money if customers decide to pay for the additional years. The are laughing all the way to the bank. In addition, it is a case of having their cake and eating it! ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 3:21 PM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription You’re absolutely right. To me, the five year license is nothing but a scam to get customers to pay upfront so that Vispero has the use of these funds immediately. If they were really concerned about their customers who live on fixed incomes, they would offer a discount of say, 10% or 15% if you buy a five years license so that it would cost only $400 instead of $450, as a gesture of good faith to their long-term customers. Again, I see no advantage paying $450 up front for a five year license when buying an annual license every year for the next five years would cost exactly the same. Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 11:06 AM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription It seems to me that if and when the SMA program is terminated, the least they can do is discount the licenses with additional years. Has Freedom Scientific/VFO/Vispero forgotten that most blind people don't have a lot of money since so many of us are not employed or receive our JAWS from agencies? Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. ~ Blaise Pascal ~ On 11/1/2018 9:53 PM, cecropia64 wrote: seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose of this?� Stew On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote: Thanks, Michael. � It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA system. � Is this correct? � I do have one concern, though. � $90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December 31. � � Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Michael: � Where did you get this info? � I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence. � I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if possible. � Thanks for the help! � Tom Behler � � � Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home users in the United States. Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your license at the end of your initial term. With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have access to all upgrades released during your license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft Office�, your browser, and other applications you may use. JAWS License Comparison What's Next? After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one later. When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in � your license will be available. JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows operating system. Refer Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Hello, everyone. � I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with the release of Jaws 2019. � Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point. � Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for $120. � If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to learn about it. � Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan � �
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Are you a moderator?
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/2/2018 6:06 PM, Don Walls wrote:
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This thread seems to be degenerating into a series of
rants. Perhaps time to retire it?
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I don't think Vispero is crying the blues, as they have moved to
probably a higher rent district, thus the price hike.
Heck, I'm willing to pay for an increase in the SMA, so no, I'm
not trying to "put the screws" to anyone, as you so eloquently
state.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/2/2018 5:38 PM, Al wrote:
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It amazes me what lengts folks will do to
try to put the screws to others. If everybody took this route
and VO had to close up then you all would be complaining that
you ended up getting screwed yourselves. By the way, if you
buy a license every other year, did it ever cross your mind
that you would have to buy the year that you so wisely
skipped?
Al
Actually, that's even less expensive than the SMA, since it
makes it $45 per year. Hmm.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/2/2018 5:25 PM, Maria Campbell
wrote:
I'll keep that in mind when they yank the SMA.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/2/2018 5:22 PM, Gerald Levy
wrote:
I thought of a suggestion for
beating Vispero at its own game. Instead of buying
a one year license every year, why not consider
buying a one year license every two years instead?
So if you purchase a one year license for JAWS 2019,
consider skipping JAWS 2020, unless it has some new
feature you feel that you must absolutely have, and
buy a one year license again when JAWS 2021 is
released. This way, you have the benefit of keeping
JAWS reasonably up to date and slashing yourannual
cost for JAWS in half. As JAWS 2019 demonstrates,
Vispero is finally running out of ideas for new whiz
bang features, and is concentrating more on bug
fixes and minor enhancements, some of which may be
of dubious value. So just buy a one year license in
odd years, or even years, whichever you prefer.
Some users have reported that JAWS versions released
in odd years have fewer bugs than those released in
even years, while others have reported just the
opposite. Take your pick. In any case, it’s like
having your cake and eating it, too. So instead of
being a slave to the annual update, stick it to
Vispero instead.
Sent: Friday,
November 02, 2018 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Need
Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
As others have pointed out many
times, no one’s making you use Jaws. NVDA’s nice
and free. I’m primarily a Jaws user and use NVDA
mainly in a pinch or if Jaws has frozen on me, but
I still donate to the NVDA project. It’s good that
there’s an option for those who don’t have the
means for commercial screen readers and
alternatives are always good. But yes, please come
back with some sort of line of how NVDA is a
public project that can be abandoned at any time
blah blah blah.
According to Eric, the
advantage of buying a five year license is
that it protects you against future price
increases. So if you buy a five year
license now for $450, which works out to $90
a year, and Vispero decides next year to
raise the price of a one year license to
$100, you are locked in to the cheaper price
for five years. What a swell bunch of guys!
Sent:
Friday, November 02, 2018 2:55 PM
Subject: Re:
Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Don't forget the
interest on the money if customers decide
to pay for the additional years.
The are laughing all
the way to the bank. In addition, it is a
case of having their cake and eating it!
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Friday,
November 02, 2018 3:21 PM
Subject: Re:
Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
You’re absolutely
right. To me, the five year license
is nothing but a scam to get
customers to pay upfront so that
Vispero has the use of these funds
immediately. If they were really
concerned about their customers who
live on fixed incomes, they would
offer a discount of say, 10% or 15%
if you buy a five years license so
that it would cost only $400 instead
of $450, as a gesture of good faith
to their long-term customers.
Again, I see no advantage paying
$450 up front for a five year
license when buying an annual
license every year for the next five
years would cost exactly the same.
Sent:
Friday, November 02, 2018
11:06 AM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New Annual
Jaws Home Subscription
It seems to me that if and when the
SMA program is terminated, the least
they can do is discount the licenses
with additional years. Has Freedom
Scientific/VFO/Vispero forgotten
that most blind people don't have a
lot of money since so many of us are
not employed or receive our JAWS
from agencies?
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/1/2018
9:53 PM, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system
is going to be more expensive by a
lot.� With a sma, you are only
paying sixty dollars a year.�
But if the prices quoted are
correct, you'll be paying ninety
dollars a year and it goes up from
there.� What is the purpose of
this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018
9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Thanks,
Michael.
�
It seems to
me that this new system will
replace the older SMA system.
�
Is this
correct?
�
I do have
one concern, though.
�
$90 a year
doesn�t seem to be that
great of a deal, since back in
2016, I got two years of Jaws
for $120, as long as I
purchased the license by
December 31.
�
�
Sent:
Thursday, November 1,
2018 11:20 AM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New
Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Michael:
�
Where did
you get this info?
�
I�m
asking because the explanation
seemed to end in mid sentence.
�
I�d like
to get the full explanation of
the various Jaws home options
if possible.
�
Thanks for
the help!
�
Tom Behler
�
�
�
Stay current with the
latest version of JAWS, the
world's most popular screen
reader, with an affordable,
annual license now available
for home users in the United
States. Choose
between a one-, three-,
or five-year option,
with the ability to easily
renew your license at the
end of your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual
license you will always have
the most up-to-date version
of JAWS, and will not have
to pay for an upgrade to get
new versions when they
release � you have access
to all upgrades released
during your license term.
Having access to new
versions of JAWS as they
become available is
essential to ensure the
ability to use your computer
with the continuous updates
of Microsoft Windows�,
Microsoft Office�, your
browser, and other
applications you may use.
JAWS
License Comparison
What's Next?
After purchasing your JAWS
Home Annual license, you
will receive an email with
instructions and a link to
register on the Freedom
Scientific Licensing Portal,
which allows you to access
and manage your software
licenses, and provides a
simple way to install and
activate your software. Your
license can be installed on
up to 3 of your computers
and using the portal, you
can easily remove your
license from one computer
and put it on a new one
later.
When registering on the
Licensing Portal, make sure
to use the same email
address you used to purchase
your license; if you have
already registered from
previous purchases, simply
select the link you receive
and sign in � your license
will be available.
JAWS Home is intended for
use by end-users for
personal, non-commercial use
only and runs on all
currently supported versions
of the Windows operating
system. Refer
Sent:
Thursday, November 1,
2018 10:53 AM
Subject:
Need Details On New
Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Hello,
everyone.
�
I have been
reading bits and pieces of
info, but can�t seem to find
a nice concise summary of the
new Jaws annual home license
that apparently is now
available with the release of
Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019
is the last Jaws upgrade on my
SMA, so I will need to do
something to renew it at some
point.
�
Up until
now, I�ve renewed my Jaws
Home SMA for a two-year period
for $120.
�
If there
now is a more economical way
to do this, I�d certainly
love to learn about it.
�
Dr.� Tom
Behler from Michigan
�
�
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Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
Don, I just joined via the website and I've received my confirmation via email and also via the website. Here is the link to put your requesting below. https://groups.io/g/jaws-users-list
On Nov 2, 2018, at 2:48 PM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:
Tried to subscribe to the list you listed and got no confirmation that I had joined as you usually do.
On 11/2/2018 12:05 PM, Pat Seed wrote:
Hi Everyone,
So, if people want to be in contact with Eric Damery, and if they want the latest JAWS information, and to participate in JAWS discussions, why don't they subscribe to the (jaws-users) list.
The subscribe address is:
jaws-users-list+subscribe@groups.io
Take care and talk soon.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat Seed
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
The list I am talking about is the JAWS Users list, which he apparently
recognizes as the "official" JAWS list and to which he is a frequent
contributor. This list has as much, if not more, traffic than the JFW
list, and is more tightly monitored. He has never posted on the JFW list,
as far as I am aware.
Gerald
-----Original Message----- From: Mario
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
and what list is that? I only know of this list and another one that I
can't recall what it is. is there much traffic on the list Eric posted
too?
-------- Original Message --------
From: Gerald Levy [mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, Nov 2, 2018 12:16 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
According to a message Eric Damery just posted on the other JAWS list,
the management of Vispero is very optimistic about its future prospect
and he believes that the company will be around for a long time. Of
course, this is somewhat self-serving, so you can take his reassurances
with a grain of salt.
Gerald
-----Original Message----- From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
I think you are wrong, and the SMA will go the way of the dinosaur, and
very soon, too. It seems that Vispero has now become a money-making
operation, rather than what Henter and Joyce had in mind, which was to
help blind people with accessibility as inexpensively as possible. They
were blind and understood that most blind people don't have a lot of
money, a concept lost on the new owners of the company. To me, an old
lady using JAWS for a very long time, JAWS still is the best screen
reader out there. However, as the price increases, it becomes more and
more cost prohibitive, to the point where I may have to give it up for
something in the open source market, something I'm going to more and
more. I'm wondering if Vispero realizes, or cares, that they are
losing more and more of their long-time customers to their
competition--Narrator, NVDA, etc. In my humble opinion, their new
pricing structure is pushing away, rather than attracting customers.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/2/2018 9:24 AM, cecropia64 wrote:
Absolutely! My thoughts exactly. But if you only plan on either
trying Jaws for a year or don't plan on keeping up on all versions
then the license program seems to be a good alternative.
On 11/2/2018 9:21 AM, Mario wrote:
in addition, I don't think that the SMA scheme will ever be replaced,
and I sincerely hope it never does. there is no harm in keeping the SMA
scheme for those who keep their use of JAWS versions up to date.
-------- Original Message --------
From: Alan Robbins via Groups.Io [mailto:alan1057=me.com@groups.io]
Sent: Friday, Nov 2, 2018 6:45 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
From what I have read, as well as listened to from Freedom scientific
staff and podcast, it would cost you $90 and it would be that recurring
charge each year to keep a current license to have jaws installed and up
to three computers.
On Nov 2, 2018, at 6:23 AM, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@verizon.net
<mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net>> wrote:
I’m confused. Suppose I wanted to upgrade from JAWS 16, which is
the version I am currently using, to JAWS 2019. Are you saying that
under the new licensing arrangement I would only have to pay $90 for
the upgrade, versus about $480 if I went the SMA route? Or would I
have to pay $270 to cover JAWS versions 17,18, and 2018, on top of the
$90 for JAWS 2019? Please clarify.
Gerald
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:sieghard@live.ca>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:12 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
I think this is also an offer which would make it much less expensive
for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date to get current on
Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even earlier
they would have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and
then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for
$90 a year and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if
this also applies for new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws at
all, can you just pay $90 a year and download/use the latest version
of Jaws and as long as you keep you rsubscription active then you can
continue to do so? If so then this really is a good option for new
Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever Jaws costs + the
cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After 10 years
you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if
you had bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each
you would have paid $1,500 after 10 years so if you are a new Jaws
user then $90 a year really is a very reasonable price and who knows
what happens in 5 or 6 let alpong 8 or 10 years, maybe Jaws won’t
exist any more as such, maybe Microsoft buys them out and it gets
merged with Narrator into Microsoft and becomes free, I certainly
wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader in 10 years any
more.
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Chris
Hill
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 7:37 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't have to
fight with the activation as much if you use a lot of different
computers, but otherwise it looks like a way to generate more
revenue. I just renewed my SMa, they will have a little while longer
to wait for my extra revenue.
CH
On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by
a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.�
But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety
dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose
of this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Thanks, Michael.
�
It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA
system.
�
Is this correct?
�
I do have one concern, though.
�
$90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since
back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I
purchased the license by December 31.
�
*Am I missing something?*
*�*
*Tom Behler*
*�*
*�*
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
mailto:main@jfw.groups.io *On Behalf Of *Michael Amaro
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:23 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
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*From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
�
Michael:
�
Where did you get this info?
�
I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid
sentence.
�
I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws
home options if possible.
�
Thanks for the help!
�
Tom Behler
�
�
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Michael Amaro
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:05 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
�
Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most
popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now
available for home users in the United States. *Choose between
a one-, three-, or five-year option*, with the ability to
easily renew your license at the end of your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most
up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an
upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have
access to all upgrades released during your license term.
Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available
is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with
the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft
Office�, your browser, and other applications you may use.
*JAWS License Comparison
<https://www.freedomscientific.com/products/blindness/JAWSLicenseComparison>;*
*What's Next?*
After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will
receive an email with instructions and a link to register on
the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to
access and manage your software licenses, and provides a
simple way to install and activate your software. Your license
can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the
portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer
and put it on a new one later.
When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the
same email address you used to purchase your license; if you
have already registered from previous purchases, simply select
the link you receive and sign in � your license will be
available.
JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal,
non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported
versions of the Windows operating system. Refer
�
*From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
*To:* 'jfw list' <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
�
Hello, everyone.
�
I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem
to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home
license that apparently is now available with the release of
Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need
to do something to renew it at some point.
�
Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year
period for $120.
�
If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d
certainly love to learn about it.
�
Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan
�
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It amazes me what lengts folks will do to try to put the screws to others. If everybody took this route and VO had to close up then you all would be complaining that you ended up getting screwed yourselves. By the way, if you buy a license every other year, did it ever cross your mind that you would have to buy the year that you so wisely skipped? Al
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 4:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Actually, that's even less expensive than the SMA, since it makes it $45 per year. Hmm. Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. ~ Blaise Pascal ~ On 11/2/2018 5:25 PM, Maria Campbell wrote: I'll keep that in mind when they yank the SMA. Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. ~ Blaise Pascal ~ On 11/2/2018 5:22 PM, Gerald Levy wrote: I thought of a suggestion for beating Vispero at its own game. Instead of buying a one year license every year, why not consider buying a one year license every two years instead? So if you purchase a one year license for JAWS 2019, consider skipping JAWS 2020, unless it has some new feature you feel that you must absolutely have, and buy a one year license again when JAWS 2021 is released. This way, you have the benefit of keeping JAWS reasonably up to date and slashing yourannual cost for JAWS in half. As JAWS 2019 demonstrates, Vispero is finally running out of ideas for new whiz bang features, and is concentrating more on bug fixes and minor enhancements, some of which may be of dubious value. So just buy a one year license in odd years, or even years, whichever you prefer. Some users have reported that JAWS versions released in odd years have fewer bugs than those released in even years, while others have reported just the opposite. Take your pick. In any case, it’s like having your cake and eating it, too. So instead of being a slave to the annual update, stick it to Vispero instead. Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription As others have pointed out many times, no one’s making you use Jaws. NVDA’s nice and free. I’m primarily a Jaws user and use NVDA mainly in a pinch or if Jaws has frozen on me, but I still donate to the NVDA project. It’s good that there’s an option for those who don’t have the means for commercial screen readers and alternatives are always good. But yes, please come back with some sort of line of how NVDA is a public project that can be abandoned at any time blah blah blah. According to Eric, the advantage of buying a five year license is that it protects you against future price increases. So if you buy a five year license now for $450, which works out to $90 a year, and Vispero decides next year to raise the price of a one year license to $100, you are locked in to the cheaper price for five years. What a swell bunch of guys! Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Don't forget the interest on the money if customers decide to pay for the additional years. The are laughing all the way to the bank. In addition, it is a case of having their cake and eating it! ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 3:21 PM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription You’re absolutely right. To me, the five year license is nothing but a scam to get customers to pay upfront so that Vispero has the use of these funds immediately. If they were really concerned about their customers who live on fixed incomes, they would offer a discount of say, 10% or 15% if you buy a five years license so that it would cost only $400 instead of $450, as a gesture of good faith to their long-term customers. Again, I see no advantage paying $450 up front for a five year license when buying an annual license every year for the next five years would cost exactly the same. Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 11:06 AM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription It seems to me that if and when the SMA program is terminated, the least they can do is discount the licenses with additional years. Has Freedom Scientific/VFO/Vispero forgotten that most blind people don't have a lot of money since so many of us are not employed or receive our JAWS from agencies? Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. ~ Blaise Pascal ~ On 11/1/2018 9:53 PM, cecropia64 wrote: seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose of this?� Stew On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote: Thanks, Michael. � It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA system. � Is this correct? � I do have one concern, though. � $90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December 31. � � Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Michael: � Where did you get this info? � I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence. � I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if possible. � Thanks for the help! � Tom Behler � � � Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home users in the United States. Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your license at the end of your initial term. With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have access to all upgrades released during your license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft Office�, your browser, and other applications you may use. JAWS License Comparison What's Next? After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one later. When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in � your license will be available. JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows operating system. Refer Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Hello, everyone. � I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with the release of Jaws 2019. � Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point. � Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for $120. � If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to learn about it. � Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan � �
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Actually, that's even less expensive than the SMA, since it makes
it $45 per year. Hmm.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/2/2018 5:25 PM, Maria Campbell
wrote:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
I'll keep that in mind when they yank the SMA.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/2/2018 5:22 PM, Gerald Levy
wrote:
I thought of a suggestion for beating Vispero at its
own game. Instead of buying a one year license every
year, why not consider buying a one year license every two
years instead? So if you purchase a one year license for
JAWS 2019, consider skipping JAWS 2020, unless it has some
new feature you feel that you must absolutely have, and
buy a one year license again when JAWS 2021 is released.
This way, you have the benefit of keeping JAWS reasonably
up to date and slashing yourannual cost for JAWS in half.
As JAWS 2019 demonstrates, Vispero is finally running out
of ideas for new whiz bang features, and is concentrating
more on bug fixes and minor enhancements, some of which
may be of dubious value. So just buy a one year license
in odd years, or even years, whichever you prefer. Some
users have reported that JAWS versions released in odd
years have fewer bugs than those released in even years,
while others have reported just the opposite. Take your
pick. In any case, it’s like having your cake and eating
it, too. So instead of being a slave to the annual update,
stick it to Vispero instead.
Gerald
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual
Jaws Home Subscription
As others have pointed out many
times, no one’s making you use Jaws. NVDA’s nice and
free. I’m primarily a Jaws user and use NVDA mainly in
a pinch or if Jaws has frozen on me, but I still
donate to the NVDA project. It’s good that there’s an
option for those who don’t have the means for
commercial screen readers and alternatives are always
good. But yes, please come back with some sort of line
of how NVDA is a public project that can be abandoned
at any time blah blah blah.
According to Eric, the
advantage of buying a five year license is
that it protects you against future price
increases. So if you buy a five year license
now for $450, which works out to $90 a year,
and Vispero decides next year to raise the
price of a one year license to $100, you are
locked in to the cheaper price for five
years. What a swell bunch of guys!
Sent:
Friday, November 02, 2018 2:55 PM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Don't forget the
interest on the money if customers decide to
pay for the additional years.
The are laughing all
the way to the bank. In addition, it is a
case of having their cake and eating it!
----- Original
Message -----
Sent:
Friday, November 02, 2018 3:21 PM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
You’re
absolutely right. To me, the five
year license is nothing but a scam to
get customers to pay upfront so that
Vispero has the use of these funds
immediately. If they were really
concerned about their customers who
live on fixed incomes, they would
offer a discount of say, 10% or 15% if
you buy a five years license so that
it would cost only $400 instead of
$450, as a gesture of good faith to
their long-term customers. Again, I
see no advantage paying $450 up front
for a five year license when buying an
annual license every year for the next
five years would cost exactly the
same.
Sent:
Friday, November 02, 2018 11:06
AM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New Annual
Jaws Home Subscription
It seems to me that if and when
the SMA program is terminated, the
least they can do is discount the
licenses with additional years. Has
Freedom Scientific/VFO/Vispero
forgotten that most blind people don't
have a lot of money since so many of
us are not employed or receive our
JAWS from agencies?
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/1/2018
9:53 PM, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new
system is going to be more expensive
by a lot.� With a sma, you are
only paying sixty dollars a year.�
But if the prices quoted are
correct, you'll be paying ninety
dollars a year and it goes up from
there.� What is the purpose of
this?�
Stew
On
11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler
wrote:
Thanks,
Michael.
�
It seems
to me that this new system will
replace the older SMA system.
�
Is this
correct?
�
I do have
one concern, though.
�
$90 a
year doesn�t seem to be that
great of a deal, since back in
2016, I got two years of Jaws
for $120, as long as I purchased
the license by December 31.
�
�
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018
11:20 AM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New
Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Michael:
�
Where did
you get this info?
�
I�m
asking because the explanation
seemed to end in mid sentence.
�
I�d
like to get the full explanation
of the various Jaws home options
if possible.
�
Thanks
for the help!
�
Tom
Behler
�
�
�
Stay current with the
latest version of JAWS, the
world's most popular screen
reader, with an affordable,
annual license now available
for home users in the United
States. Choose
between a one-, three-, or
five-year option,
with the ability to easily
renew your license at the end
of your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual
license you will always have
the most up-to-date version of
JAWS, and will not have to pay
for an upgrade to get new
versions when they release �
you have access to all
upgrades released during your
license term. Having access to
new versions of JAWS as they
become available is essential
to ensure the ability to use
your computer with the
continuous updates of
Microsoft Windows�,
Microsoft Office�, your
browser, and other
applications you may use.
JAWS
License Comparison
What's Next?
After purchasing your
JAWS Home Annual license, you
will receive an email with
instructions and a link to
register on the Freedom
Scientific Licensing Portal,
which allows you to access and
manage your software licenses,
and provides a simple way to
install and activate your
software. Your license can be
installed on up to 3 of your
computers and using the
portal, you can easily remove
your license from one computer
and put it on a new one later.
When registering on the
Licensing Portal, make sure to
use the same email address you
used to purchase your license;
if you have already registered
from previous purchases,
simply select the link you
receive and sign in � your
license will be available.
JAWS Home is intended for
use by end-users for personal,
non-commercial use only and
runs on all currently
supported versions of the
Windows operating system.
Refer
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018
10:53 AM
Subject:
Need Details On New Annual
Jaws Home Subscription
Hello,
everyone.
�
I have
been reading bits and pieces of
info, but can�t seem to find a
nice concise summary of the new
Jaws annual home license that
apparently is now available with
the release of Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019
is the last Jaws upgrade on my
SMA, so I will need to do
something to renew it at some
point.
�
Up until
now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home
SMA for a two-year period for
$120.
�
If there
now is a more economical way to
do this, I�d certainly love to
learn about it.
�
Dr.�
Tom Behler from Michigan
�
�
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Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
I'll keep that in mind when they yank the SMA.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/2/2018 5:22 PM, Gerald Levy
wrote:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
I thought of a suggestion for beating Vispero at its own
game. Instead of buying a one year license every year, why
not consider buying a one year license every two years
instead? So if you purchase a one year license for JAWS
2019, consider skipping JAWS 2020, unless it has some new
feature you feel that you must absolutely have, and buy a
one year license again when JAWS 2021 is released. This
way, you have the benefit of keeping JAWS reasonably up to
date and slashing yourannual cost for JAWS in half. As JAWS
2019 demonstrates, Vispero is finally running out of ideas
for new whiz bang features, and is concentrating more on bug
fixes and minor enhancements, some of which may be of
dubious value. So just buy a one year license in odd years,
or even years, whichever you prefer. Some users have
reported that JAWS versions released in odd years have fewer
bugs than those released in even years, while others have
reported just the opposite. Take your pick. In any case,
it’s like having your cake and eating it, too. So instead of
being a slave to the annual update, stick it to Vispero
instead.
Gerald
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws
Home Subscription
As others have pointed out many
times, no one’s making you use Jaws. NVDA’s nice and
free. I’m primarily a Jaws user and use NVDA mainly in a
pinch or if Jaws has frozen on me, but I still donate to
the NVDA project. It’s good that there’s an option for
those who don’t have the means for commercial screen
readers and alternatives are always good. But yes,
please come back with some sort of line of how NVDA is a
public project that can be abandoned at any time blah
blah blah.
According to Eric, the
advantage of buying a five year license is that
it protects you against future price increases.
So if you buy a five year license now for $450,
which works out to $90 a year, and Vispero
decides next year to raise the price of a one
year license to $100, you are locked in to the
cheaper price for five years. What a swell
bunch of guys!
Sent:
Friday, November 02, 2018 2:55 PM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Don't forget the
interest on the money if customers decide to
pay for the additional years.
The are laughing all
the way to the bank. In addition, it is a case
of having their cake and eating it!
----- Original
Message -----
Sent:
Friday, November 02, 2018 3:21 PM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
You’re absolutely
right. To me, the five year license is
nothing but a scam to get customers to
pay upfront so that Vispero has the use
of these funds immediately. If they
were really concerned about their
customers who live on fixed incomes,
they would offer a discount of say, 10%
or 15% if you buy a five years license
so that it would cost only $400 instead
of $450, as a gesture of good faith to
their long-term customers. Again, I see
no advantage paying $450 up front for a
five year license when buying an annual
license every year for the next five
years would cost exactly the same.
Sent:
Friday, November 02, 2018 11:06 AM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New Annual
Jaws Home Subscription
It seems to me that if and when the
SMA program is terminated, the least
they can do is discount the licenses
with additional years. Has Freedom
Scientific/VFO/Vispero forgotten that
most blind people don't have a lot of
money since so many of us are not
employed or receive our JAWS from
agencies?
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/1/2018
9:53 PM, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system
is going to be more expensive by a
lot.� With a sma, you are only
paying sixty dollars a year.� But if
the prices quoted are correct, you'll
be paying ninety dollars a year and it
goes up from there.� What is the
purpose of this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018
9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Thanks,
Michael.
�
It seems to
me that this new system will
replace the older SMA system.
�
Is this
correct?
�
I do have
one concern, though.
�
$90 a year
doesn�t seem to be that great of
a deal, since back in 2016, I got
two years of Jaws for $120, as
long as I purchased the license by
December 31.
�
�
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018
11:20 AM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New
Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Michael:
�
Where did
you get this info?
�
I�m
asking because the explanation
seemed to end in mid sentence.
�
I�d like
to get the full explanation of the
various Jaws home options if
possible.
�
Thanks for
the help!
�
Tom Behler
�
�
�
Stay current with the
latest version of JAWS, the
world's most popular screen
reader, with an affordable,
annual license now available for
home users in the United States.
Choose between a
one-, three-, or five-year
option, with
the ability to easily renew your
license at the end of your
initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual
license you will always have the
most up-to-date version of JAWS,
and will not have to pay for an
upgrade to get new versions when
they release � you have access
to all upgrades released during
your license term. Having access
to new versions of JAWS as they
become available is essential to
ensure the ability to use your
computer with the continuous
updates of Microsoft Windows�,
Microsoft Office�, your
browser, and other applications
you may use.
JAWS
License Comparison
What's Next?
After purchasing your JAWS
Home Annual license, you will
receive an email with
instructions and a link to
register on the Freedom
Scientific Licensing Portal,
which allows you to access and
manage your software licenses,
and provides a simple way to
install and activate your
software. Your license can be
installed on up to 3 of your
computers and using the portal,
you can easily remove your
license from one computer and
put it on a new one later.
When registering on the
Licensing Portal, make sure to
use the same email address you
used to purchase your license;
if you have already registered
from previous purchases, simply
select the link you receive and
sign in � your license will be
available.
JAWS Home is intended for
use by end-users for personal,
non-commercial use only and runs
on all currently supported
versions of the Windows
operating system. Refer
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018
10:53 AM
Subject:
Need Details On New Annual
Jaws Home Subscription
Hello,
everyone.
�
I have been
reading bits and pieces of info,
but can�t seem to find a nice
concise summary of the new Jaws
annual home license that
apparently is now available with
the release of Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019
is the last Jaws upgrade on my
SMA, so I will need to do
something to renew it at some
point.
�
Up until
now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home
SMA for a two-year period for
$120.
�
If there
now is a more economical way to do
this, I�d certainly love to
learn about it.
�
Dr.� Tom
Behler from Michigan
�
�
|
|
|
locked
Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
I thought of a suggestion for beating Vispero at its own game.
Instead of buying a one year license every year, why not consider buying a one
year license every two years instead? So if you purchase a one year
license for JAWS 2019, consider skipping JAWS 2020, unless it has some new
feature you feel that you must absolutely have, and buy a one year license again
when JAWS 2021 is released. This way, you have the benefit of keeping JAWS
reasonably up to date and slashing yourannual cost for JAWS in half. As
JAWS 2019 demonstrates, Vispero is finally running out of ideas for new whiz
bang features, and is concentrating more on bug fixes and minor enhancements,
some of which may be of dubious value. So just buy a one year license in
odd years, or even years, whichever you prefer. Some users have reported
that JAWS versions released in odd years have fewer bugs than those released in
even years, while others have reported just the opposite. Take your
pick. In any case, it’s like having your cake and eating it, too. So
instead of being a slave to the annual update, stick it to Vispero instead.
Gerald
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
As others have pointed out many times, no one’s making you
use Jaws. NVDA’s nice and free. I’m primarily a Jaws user and use NVDA mainly in
a pinch or if Jaws has frozen on me, but I still donate to the NVDA project.
It’s good that there’s an option for those who don’t have the means for
commercial screen readers and alternatives are always good. But yes, please come
back with some sort of line of how NVDA is a public project that can be
abandoned at any time blah blah blah.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 12:53
PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New
Annual Jaws Home Subscription
According to Eric, the
advantage of buying a five year license is that it protects you against future
price increases. So if you buy a five year license now for $450, which
works out to $90 a year, and Vispero decides next year to raise the price of a
one year license to $100, you are locked in to the cheaper price for five
years. What a swell bunch of guys!
Sent: Friday, November 02,
2018 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: Need Details On
New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Don't forget the
interest on the money if customers decide to pay for the additional
years.
The are laughing all
the way to the bank. In addition, it is a case of having their cake and eating
it!
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 02,
2018 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: Need Details On
New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
You’re absolutely
right. To me, the five year license is nothing but a scam to get
customers to pay upfront so that Vispero has the use of these funds
immediately. If they were really concerned about their customers who
live on fixed incomes, they would offer a discount of say, 10% or 15% if you
buy a five years license so that it would cost only $400 instead of $450, as a
gesture of good faith to their long-term customers. Again, I see no
advantage paying $450 up front for a five year license when buying an annual
license every year for the next five years would cost exactly the
same.
Sent: Friday, November
02, 2018 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Need Details On
New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
It seems to me that if and when the SMA
program is terminated, the least they can do is discount the licenses with
additional years. Has Freedom Scientific/VFO/Vispero forgotten that most
blind people don't have a lot of money since so many of us are not employed or
receive our JAWS from agencies?
Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. ~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/1/2018 9:53 PM,
cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system is going
to be more expensive by a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty
dollars a year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying
ninety dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose of
this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom
Behler wrote:
Thanks, Michael.
�
It seems to me that this new system will replace
the older SMA system.
�
Is this correct?
�
I do have one concern,
though.
�
$90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a
deal, since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I
purchased the license by December 31.
�
�
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Michael:
�
Where did you get this info?
�
I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end
in mid sentence.
�
I�d like to get the full explanation of the
various Jaws home options if possible.
�
Thanks for the help!
�
Tom Behler
�
�
�
Stay current with the latest version of
JAWS, the world's most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual
license now available for home users in the United States. Choose between a one-, three-,
or five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your
license at the end of your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual license you will
always have the most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay
for an upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have access
to all upgrades released during your license term. Having access to new
versions of JAWS as they become available is essential to ensure the
ability to use your computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft
Windows�, Microsoft Office�, your browser, and other applications you
may use.
JAWS
License Comparison
What's
Next?
After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual
license, you will receive an email with instructions and a link to
register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to
access and manage your software licenses, and provides a simple way to
install and activate your software. Your license can be installed on up to
3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily remove your
license from one computer and put it on a new one
later.
When registering on the Licensing Portal,
make sure to use the same email address you used to purchase your license;
if you have already registered from previous purchases, simply select the
link you receive and sign in � your license will be
available.
JAWS Home is intended for use by
end-users for personal, non-commercial use only and runs on all currently
supported versions of the Windows operating system. Refer
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
Subject:
Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Hello, everyone.
�
I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but
can�t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home
license that apparently is now available with the release of Jaws
2019.
�
Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I
will need to do something to renew it at some point.
�
Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for
a two-year period for $120.
�
If there now is a more economical way to do this,
I�d certainly love to learn about it.
�
Dr.� Tom Behler from
Michigan
�
�
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Re: What is your first version of Jaws
I don't think so because the authorization number is needed to activate
the copy of JAWS into a full fledged non expiring copy for their use.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
-------- Original Message -------- From: Angel [mailto:angel238@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, Nov 2, 2018 2:27 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: What is your first version of Jaws I don't think we should be telling the list our Jaws serial numbers. Couldn't those who wish to steal Jaws take advantage of knowing them? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Hicks" <bob@seeinghandassociation.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 9:06 AM Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws With 48264 I am way behind! Have a great day, 73 Bob Hicks, KC8CR Windows 7 and 10 home 64 bit -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 12:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws Hey Ward, For me it was also Jaws for DOS back in September or October of 1989. I then had Jaws for Windows from the first release in the early 90's with Windows 3.1, then 3.11 and of course with Windows 95, 98 and 98SE things really started getting more serious. Sounds like we have most of these young guys on the list beat, but let's see, what is your Jaws serial number? I have serial number 1056 and that has been my serial number for the last almost 30 years. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ward Dudley Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 7:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws Jaws for DOS. Ward On 10/31/2018 5:30 PM, Larry Gassman wrote: I don't remember the exact version but it was 1997. So it had to be around 2. something. Larry At 03:17 PM 10/31/2018, you wrote: I started with JAWS 3.1. Maria Campbell <mailto:lucky1inct@gmail.com>lucky1inct@gmail.com Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. ~ Blaise Pascal ~ On 10/31/2018 6:15 PM, Michael Munn wrote: Man! You'all had been using Jaws for a long time. I had been using Jaws for only 2 years. My first Jaws version was Jaws17. I learned my command from other screen reader. You know that all screen reader have the same element. T for table H for heading and B for button... I was a former Window-eyes user for couple months. "If a person must be blind, it is better to be blind in Iowa than anywhere else in the nation or in the world." Harold Russell, Des Moines 1968 Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind Student Delegate:  Virginia Association of Blind Student Student of: Hadley Institute for the Blind < http://www.hadley.edu>;www.hadley.edu Email address: <mailto:michaelrbms@gmail.com>michaelrbms@gmail.com On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 5:05 PM David Moore <<mailto:jesusloves1966@gmail.com>jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote: My first version of JAWS was 3.7. I began using that version when I went back to Ohio State University in 2002! David Moore Sent from < https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>;Mail for Windows 10  From: <mailto:northstarr1950@gmail.com>ratshtron Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:59 PM To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws  hmmm, my first jaws was 2.0.    Legend has it that on Wednesday 10/31/2018 03:47 PM, Michael Munn said: ----------------------------------------  ----------------------------------------      .
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As others have pointed out many times, no one’s making you use Jaws. NVDA’s nice and free. I’m primarily a Jaws user and use NVDA mainly in a pinch or if Jaws has frozen on me, but I still donate to the NVDA project. It’s good that there’s an option for those who don’t have the means for commercial screen readers and alternatives are always good. But yes, please come back with some sort of line of how NVDA is a public project that can be abandoned at any time blah blah blah.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 12:53 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription According to Eric, the advantage of buying a five year license is that it protects you against future price increases. So if you buy a five year license now for $450, which works out to $90 a year, and Vispero decides next year to raise the price of a one year license to $100, you are locked in to the cheaper price for five years. What a swell bunch of guys! Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Don't forget the interest on the money if customers decide to pay for the additional years. The are laughing all the way to the bank. In addition, it is a case of having their cake and eating it! ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 3:21 PM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription You’re absolutely right. To me, the five year license is nothing but a scam to get customers to pay upfront so that Vispero has the use of these funds immediately. If they were really concerned about their customers who live on fixed incomes, they would offer a discount of say, 10% or 15% if you buy a five years license so that it would cost only $400 instead of $450, as a gesture of good faith to their long-term customers. Again, I see no advantage paying $450 up front for a five year license when buying an annual license every year for the next five years would cost exactly the same. Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 11:06 AM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription It seems to me that if and when the SMA program is terminated, the least they can do is discount the licenses with additional years. Has Freedom Scientific/VFO/Vispero forgotten that most blind people don't have a lot of money since so many of us are not employed or receive our JAWS from agencies? Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. ~ Blaise Pascal ~ On 11/1/2018 9:53 PM, cecropia64 wrote: seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose of this?� Stew On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote: Thanks, Michael. � It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA system. � Is this correct? � I do have one concern, though. � $90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December 31. � � Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Michael: � Where did you get this info? � I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence. � I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if possible. � Thanks for the help! � Tom Behler � � � Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home users in the United States. Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your license at the end of your initial term. With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have access to all upgrades released during your license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft Office�, your browser, and other applications you may use. JAWS License Comparison What's Next? After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one later. When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in � your license will be available. JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows operating system. Refer Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Hello, everyone. � I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with the release of Jaws 2019. � Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point. � Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for $120. � If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to learn about it. � Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan � �
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Thanks Mike! That did the trick!
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 6:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: In JAWS 2019 how do I turn back on both the "tab" and "alt+tab" key sounds? 1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Jaws key + 6, on the number row then press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications. 2. Navigate to, Keyboard closed, and press right arrow to open. 3. Down arrow to, General closed, and right arrow to open. 4. Down arrow to, Manage key labels..., and press the spacebar to open. Note; don't press enter , if you press enter it'll close the Settings Center. 5. Press the letter, T, and it'll take you to, Tab tab mute, now tab 1 time an you'll hear, toggle mute button, so press the spacebar to hear, Tab tab speak. 6. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, again tab to, Okay, press enter to save & close. Take care. Mike. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 5:15 PM Subject: In JAWS 2019 how do I turn back on both the "tab" and "alt+tab" key sounds? Hi! I like hearing the sounds “tab” and “alt+tab” when I press these keys so that I get that confirmation. Apparently, in JAWS 2019 this functionality is defaulted to “off.” How can I turn this back on? Thanks, Richard
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-----Original Message----- From: Don H Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 3:48 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Tried to subscribe to the list you listed and got no confirmation that I had joined as you usually do. On 11/2/2018 12:05 PM, Pat Seed wrote: Hi Everyone,
So, if people want to be in contact with Eric Damery, and if they want the latest JAWS information, and to participate in JAWS discussions, why don't they subscribe to the (jaws-users) list.
The subscribe address is:
jaws-users-list+subscribe@groups.io
Take care and talk soon.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat Seed
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
The list I am talking about is the JAWS Users list, which he apparently
recognizes as the "official" JAWS list and to which he is a frequent
contributor. This list has as much, if not more, traffic than the JFW
list, and is more tightly monitored. He has never posted on the JFW list,
as far as I am aware.
Gerald
-----Original Message----- From: Mario
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
and what list is that? I only know of this list and another one that I
can't recall what it is. is there much traffic on the list Eric posted
too?
-------- Original Message --------
From: Gerald Levy [mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, Nov 2, 2018 12:16 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
According to a message Eric Damery just posted on the other JAWS list,
the management of Vispero is very optimistic about its future prospect
and he believes that the company will be around for a long time. Of
course, this is somewhat self-serving, so you can take his reassurances
with a grain of salt.
Gerald
-----Original Message----- From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
I think you are wrong, and the SMA will go the way of the dinosaur, and
very soon, too. It seems that Vispero has now become a money-making
operation, rather than what Henter and Joyce had in mind, which was to
help blind people with accessibility as inexpensively as possible. They
were blind and understood that most blind people don't have a lot of
money, a concept lost on the new owners of the company. To me, an old
lady using JAWS for a very long time, JAWS still is the best screen
reader out there. However, as the price increases, it becomes more and
more cost prohibitive, to the point where I may have to give it up for
something in the open source market, something I'm going to more and
more. I'm wondering if Vispero realizes, or cares, that they are
losing more and more of their long-time customers to their
competition--Narrator, NVDA, etc. In my humble opinion, their new
pricing structure is pushing away, rather than attracting customers.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/2/2018 9:24 AM, cecropia64 wrote:
Absolutely! My thoughts exactly. But if you only plan on either
trying Jaws for a year or don't plan on keeping up on all versions
then the license program seems to be a good alternative.
On 11/2/2018 9:21 AM, Mario wrote:
in addition, I don't think that the SMA scheme will ever be replaced,
and I sincerely hope it never does. there is no harm in keeping the SMA
scheme for those who keep their use of JAWS versions up to date.
-------- Original Message --------
From: Alan Robbins via Groups.Io [mailto:alan1057=me.com@groups.io]
Sent: Friday, Nov 2, 2018 6:45 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
From what I have read, as well as listened to from Freedom scientific
staff and podcast, it would cost you $90 and it would be that recurring
charge each year to keep a current license to have jaws installed and up
to three computers.
On Nov 2, 2018, at 6:23 AM, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@verizon.net
<mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net>> wrote:
I’m confused. Suppose I wanted to upgrade from JAWS 16, which is
the version I am currently using, to JAWS 2019. Are you saying that
under the new licensing arrangement I would only have to pay $90 for
the upgrade, versus about $480 if I went the SMA route? Or would I
have to pay $270 to cover JAWS versions 17,18, and 2018, on top of the
$90 for JAWS 2019? Please clarify.
Gerald
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:sieghard@live.ca>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:12 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
I think this is also an offer which would make it much less expensive
for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date to get current on
Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even earlier
they would have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and
then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for
$90 a year and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if
this also applies for new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws at
all, can you just pay $90 a year and download/use the latest version
of Jaws and as long as you keep you rsubscription active then you can
continue to do so? If so then this really is a good option for new
Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever Jaws costs + the
cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After 10 years
you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if
you had bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each
you would have paid $1,500 after 10 years so if you are a new Jaws
user then $90 a year really is a very reasonable price and who knows
what happens in 5 or 6 let alpong 8 or 10 years, maybe Jaws won’t
exist any more as such, maybe Microsoft buys them out and it gets
merged with Narrator into Microsoft and becomes free, I certainly
wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader in 10 years any
more.
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Chris
Hill
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 7:37 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't have to
fight with the activation as much if you use a lot of different
computers, but otherwise it looks like a way to generate more
revenue. I just renewed my SMa, they will have a little while longer
to wait for my extra revenue.
CH
On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by
a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.�
But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety
dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose
of this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Thanks, Michael.
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It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA
system.
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Is this correct?
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I do have one concern, though.
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back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I
purchased the license by December 31.
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*�*
*Tom Behler*
*�*
*�*
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
mailto:main@jfw.groups.io *On Behalf Of *Michael Amaro
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:23 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
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*From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
�
Michael:
�
Where did you get this info?
�
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�
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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Michael Amaro
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:05 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
�
Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most
popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now
available for home users in the United States. *Choose between
a one-, three-, or five-year option*, with the ability to
easily renew your license at the end of your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most
up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an
upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have
access to all upgrades released during your license term.
Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available
is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with
the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft
Office�, your browser, and other applications you may use.
*JAWS License Comparison
<https://www.freedomscientific.com/products/blindness/JAWSLicenseComparison>;*
*What's Next?*
After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will
receive an email with instructions and a link to register on
the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to
access and manage your software licenses, and provides a
simple way to install and activate your software. Your license
can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the
portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer
and put it on a new one later.
When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the
same email address you used to purchase your license; if you
have already registered from previous purchases, simply select
the link you receive and sign in � your license will be
available.
JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal,
non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported
versions of the Windows operating system. Refer
�
*From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
*To:* 'jfw list' <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
�
Hello, everyone.
�
I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem
to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home
license that apparently is now available with the release of
Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need
to do something to renew it at some point.
�
Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year
period for $120.
�
If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d
certainly love to learn about it.
�
Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan
�
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Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
According to Eric, the advantage of buying a five year license is that it
protects you against future price increases. So if you buy a five year
license now for $450, which works out to $90 a year, and Vispero decides next
year to raise the price of a one year license to $100, you are locked in to the
cheaper price for five years. What a swell bunch of guys!
Gerald
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Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Hello Gerald:
Don't forget the interest on the money if customers
decide to pay for the additional years.
The are laughing all the way to the bank. In
addition, it is a case of having their cake and eating it!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 3:21
PM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual
Jaws Home Subscription
You’re absolutely right. To me, the five year license is nothing
but a scam to get customers to pay upfront so that Vispero has the use of
these funds immediately. If they were really concerned about their
customers who live on fixed incomes, they would offer a discount of say, 10%
or 15% if you buy a five years license so that it would cost only $400 instead
of $450, as a gesture of good faith to their long-term customers. Again,
I see no advantage paying $450 up front for a five year license when buying an
annual license every year for the next five years would cost exactly the
same.
Gerald
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
It seems to me that if and when the SMA program is terminated, the least
they can do is discount the licenses with additional years. Has Freedom
Scientific/VFO/Vispero forgotten that most blind people don't have a lot of
money since so many of us are not employed or receive our JAWS from
agencies?
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/1/2018 9:53 PM, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system is going to be more
expensive by a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a
year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety
dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose of this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Thanks, Michael.
�
It seems to me that this new system will replace the
older SMA system.
�
Is this correct?
�
I do have one concern, though.
�
$90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal,
since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I
purchased the license by December 31.
�
�
Sent: Thursday, November 1,
2018 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: Need Details On
New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Michael:
�
Where did you get this info?
�
I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in
mid sentence.
�
I�d like to get the full explanation of the various
Jaws home options if possible.
�
Thanks for the help!
�
Tom Behler
�
�
�
Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular
screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home
users in the United States. Choose between a one-, three-,
or five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your
license at the end of your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most
up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get
new versions when they release � you have access to all upgrades
released during your license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS
as they become available is essential to ensure the ability to use your
computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft
Office�, your browser, and other applications you may use.
JAWS License
Comparison
What's Next?
After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an
email with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific
Licensing Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software
licenses, and provides a simple way to install and activate your software.
Your license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the
portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer and put it on
a new one later.
When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same
email address you used to purchase your license; if you have already
registered from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and
sign in � your license will be available.
JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial
use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows
operating system. Refer
Sent: Thursday, November 1,
2018 10:53 AM
Subject: Need Details On New
Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Hello, everyone.
�
I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but
can�t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home
license that apparently is now available with the release of Jaws
2019.
�
Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will
need to do something to renew it at some point.
�
Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a
two-year period for $120.
�
If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d
certainly love to learn about it.
�
Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan
�
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Tried to subscribe to the list you listed and got no confirmation that I had joined as you usually do.
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On 11/2/2018 12:05 PM, Pat Seed wrote: Hi Everyone,
So, if people want to be in contact with Eric Damery, and if they want the latest JAWS information, and to participate in JAWS discussions, why don't they subscribe to the (jaws-users) list.
The subscribe address is:
jaws-users-list+subscribe@groups.io
Take care and talk soon.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat Seed
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
The list I am talking about is the JAWS Users list, which he apparently
recognizes as the "official" JAWS list and to which he is a frequent
contributor. This list has as much, if not more, traffic than the JFW
list, and is more tightly monitored. He has never posted on the JFW list,
as far as I am aware.
Gerald
-----Original Message----- From: Mario
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
and what list is that? I only know of this list and another one that I
can't recall what it is. is there much traffic on the list Eric posted
too?
-------- Original Message --------
From: Gerald Levy [mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, Nov 2, 2018 12:16 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
According to a message Eric Damery just posted on the other JAWS list,
the management of Vispero is very optimistic about its future prospect
and he believes that the company will be around for a long time. Of
course, this is somewhat self-serving, so you can take his reassurances
with a grain of salt.
Gerald
-----Original Message----- From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
I think you are wrong, and the SMA will go the way of the dinosaur, and
very soon, too. It seems that Vispero has now become a money-making
operation, rather than what Henter and Joyce had in mind, which was to
help blind people with accessibility as inexpensively as possible. They
were blind and understood that most blind people don't have a lot of
money, a concept lost on the new owners of the company. To me, an old
lady using JAWS for a very long time, JAWS still is the best screen
reader out there. However, as the price increases, it becomes more and
more cost prohibitive, to the point where I may have to give it up for
something in the open source market, something I'm going to more and
more. I'm wondering if Vispero realizes, or cares, that they are
losing more and more of their long-time customers to their
competition--Narrator, NVDA, etc. In my humble opinion, their new
pricing structure is pushing away, rather than attracting customers.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/2/2018 9:24 AM, cecropia64 wrote:
Absolutely! My thoughts exactly. But if you only plan on either
trying Jaws for a year or don't plan on keeping up on all versions
then the license program seems to be a good alternative.
On 11/2/2018 9:21 AM, Mario wrote:
in addition, I don't think that the SMA scheme will ever be replaced,
and I sincerely hope it never does. there is no harm in keeping the SMA
scheme for those who keep their use of JAWS versions up to date.
-------- Original Message --------
From: Alan Robbins via Groups.Io [mailto:alan1057=me.com@groups.io]
Sent: Friday, Nov 2, 2018 6:45 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
From what I have read, as well as listened to from Freedom scientific
staff and podcast, it would cost you $90 and it would be that recurring
charge each year to keep a current license to have jaws installed and up
to three computers.
On Nov 2, 2018, at 6:23 AM, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@verizon.net
<mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net>> wrote:
I’m confused. Suppose I wanted to upgrade from JAWS 16, which is
the version I am currently using, to JAWS 2019. Are you saying that
under the new licensing arrangement I would only have to pay $90 for
the upgrade, versus about $480 if I went the SMA route? Or would I
have to pay $270 to cover JAWS versions 17,18, and 2018, on top of the
$90 for JAWS 2019? Please clarify.
Gerald
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:sieghard@live.ca>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:12 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
I think this is also an offer which would make it much less expensive
for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date to get current on
Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even earlier
they would have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and
then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for
$90 a year and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if
this also applies for new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws at
all, can you just pay $90 a year and download/use the latest version
of Jaws and as long as you keep you rsubscription active then you can
continue to do so? If so then this really is a good option for new
Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever Jaws costs + the
cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After 10 years
you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if
you had bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each
you would have paid $1,500 after 10 years so if you are a new Jaws
user then $90 a year really is a very reasonable price and who knows
what happens in 5 or 6 let alpong 8 or 10 years, maybe Jaws won’t
exist any more as such, maybe Microsoft buys them out and it gets
merged with Narrator into Microsoft and becomes free, I certainly
wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader in 10 years any
more.
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Chris
Hill
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 7:37 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't have to
fight with the activation as much if you use a lot of different
computers, but otherwise it looks like a way to generate more
revenue. I just renewed my SMa, they will have a little while longer
to wait for my extra revenue.
CH
On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by
a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.�
But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety
dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose
of this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Thanks, Michael.
�
It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA
system.
�
Is this correct?
�
I do have one concern, though.
�
$90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since
back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I
purchased the license by December 31.
�
*Am I missing something?*
*�*
*Tom Behler*
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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
mailto:main@jfw.groups.io *On Behalf Of *Michael Amaro
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:23 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
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*From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
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Michael:
�
Where did you get this info?
�
I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid
sentence.
�
I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws
home options if possible.
�
Thanks for the help!
�
Tom Behler
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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Michael Amaro
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:05 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
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*From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
*To:* 'jfw list' <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
�
Hello, everyone.
�
I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem
to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home
license that apparently is now available with the release of
Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need
to do something to renew it at some point.
�
Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year
period for $120.
�
If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d
certainly love to learn about it.
�
Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan
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