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Latest Jaws 2019 March update crashing while in Outlook 2016

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

So, I updated my Jaws 2019 to the recent march update last night. Today after launching everything, I’ve so far experienced four Jaws crashes while in Outlook.

As of right now, this crashing has only occurred while in Outlook and not any of the browsers or other programs I’m using.

My version of Outlook is: 16.0.11328.20146. It is a stand alone license.

Jaws comes back quick enough, but still… Is anyone else dealing with this issue?

I already submitted a support request to Vispero, but as always, I was curious to know if it’s just my luck or if anyone else is encountering this.

In general, Jaws has been pretty stable these past few releases. Thus this crashing has jumped out for me as something to be commented on.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

 


Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

 

Bill,

           Very strange.   I would report this to the Eset people and to Microsoft via the feedback hub.  I have never once had an icon that I turn on in the dialog I referenced be pushed into the overflow area.  Its very reason for being is to prevent that, so something's amiss in this case.

           Of course, I only keep 6 really essential bits constantly showing in the main system tray.  Anything else I let get pushed into the overflow area and get to it in there on the odd occasion I want to check it.

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   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: picture smart

Mario
 

insert+spacebar p and then f.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H [mailto:lmddh50@adams.net]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019, 1:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: picture smart

Running latest version of Jaws on a win 10 system.  I go to file
explorer and hightlight a .jpg file of a receipt.  I hit insert space
bar followed by the letter p and nothing happens to read the image. What
am I doing wrong?





.


Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Brian. The Esset icon is already on, and it always comes up in the overflow area. The only way I can get it to display with JAWS Key plus F11, or Windows plus B, without going into the overflow area is to invoke the link that says turn on all icons in system tray.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 9:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

 

Bill,

          If order does not matter as far as where the Eset icon would be constantly visible in the system tray, the easiest thing to do is to open Settings, search on "Select which icons," which will turn up the setting for, "Select which icons appear on the taskbar"  (and, in this case, it's the notification area/system tray area of the taskbar), then finding Eset in the dialog presented and toggling it on.  Anything that gets toggled on in that dialog will be permanently visible in the system tray rather than being pushed to the overflow area which one must access via the notification chevron.

          I have yet to find a technique that allows drag and drop rearrangement of the icons that are shown in the system tray using a screen reader, though one can rearrange them via actual mouse drag and drop.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

Robert Logue
 

Hey Don.  Which screen reader?

I could not make drag and drop work with Jaws in the past.  I have not tried NVDA and I don't know if Narrator supports drag and drop.


BTW: I heard the latest update to Jaws changed support for drag and drop.


I wish Windows had a more accessible way to rearrange the taskbar.

It wouldn't hurt them to add numbers.  I have to count and remember the order to use the windows key and number shortcut.


Bob

On 2019-03-15 9:40 a.m., Don Mauck wrote:

I don't know why I can do this quite easily and others can't. I'm using Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Version 10.0.17134.1
Would that make a difference?
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hill <hillco@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 9:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

I tried using drag and drop. Although it made the appropriate noises on my windows 10 computer, it didn't actually work. If you want to do this the simplest way I can think of, do the following.
unpin everything from the taskbar by right-clicking or the equivalent on each item and choosing unpin. Now, open the run box with windows+r and type shell:appsvolder and press enter. This will open a folder with shortcuts to all your apps. Do the equivalent of right click and pin any you want on the taskbar in the order in which you want them.


CH





Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

Mike B
 


Hi Bill & All,
 
Here's how I rearrange the system tray icons  running Windows 10 Pro Version 1809 (OS Build 17763.379) & all installed versions of Jaws.
1. Windows key + I, for Settings, tab 1 time to System, right arrow to Personalization, and press enter.
2. Navigate to, Taskbar and press enter.
3. Tab several times to, Select which icons appear on the taskbar Link, and press enter.
4. Okay now to put the System Tray in the order you want it in.  Tab through all the icons making a note of which ones you have checked / turned on because you're going to uncheck all of them.
5. Uncheck all the icons.  Now you will go through and check the icons in the order you want them in but keep in mind, they will appear in the reverse order that they are checked.  What I mean is, the 1st one yu check will be at the bottom of the list, the 2nd will be 2nd from the bottom, the 3rd will be 3rd from the bottom etc. etc....  After you're done open the system tray to make sure it's the way you want it and Alt + F4 if it is.
Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.
Book: a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the computer repairman!

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

Hi, Chris. What I want to do is rearrange things in System Tray, not actually in the Taskbar, so unpinning things in the Taskbar won't work in this instance. What is actually happening is that I used to have an icon for Eset NOD32, my antivirus program, which was one of the first icons in System Tray. Now, in order to find this icon I must turn on all icons in System Tray, or, use the Notification Icon to go to the overflow section of icons in System Tray. What I want to do is rearrange the icons so that the Eset NOD32 icon is where it used to be.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

I tried using drag and drop.  Although it made the appropriate noises on
my windows 10 computer, it didn't actually work.  If you want to do this
the simplest way I can think of, do the following.
unpin everything from the taskbar by right-clicking or the equivalent on
each item and choosing unpin.  Now, open the run box with windows+r and
type shell:appsvolder and press enter.  This will open a folder with
shortcuts to all your apps.  Do the equivalent of right click and pin
any you want on the taskbar in the order in which you want them.


CH









picture smart

Don H
 

Running latest version of Jaws on a win 10 system.  I go to file explorer and hightlight a .jpg file of a receipt.  I hit insert space bar followed by the letter p and nothing happens to read the image.  What am I doing wrong?


Re: Picture smart

Dave...
 


Oliver,
 
Not sure if we need to import a script, if JAWS now carries this capability with the latest version.
 
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 05:03
Subject: Re: Picture smart

Hi! Sorry for plugging in NVDA here. There is an add-on called "Image describer" for NVDA that does these things, would it be useful if it also was transferred to a JAWS script? Regards, Oliver


Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

Mike B
 


Hi Chris & All,
 
I'm running Windows 10 Pro Version 1809 (OS Build 17763.379), and drag & drop works just fine with this latest J2019 update.  I only tried it by moving Taskbar icons around since that's all I use drag and drop for.
Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.
Book: a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the computer repairman!

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

If I‘M reading that right you are running the spring 2017 update.  Might be time to do some updating.  That’s probably why it is still working for you.

CH
> On Mar 15, 2019, at 10:40, Don Mauck <don.mauck@...> wrote:
>
> I don't know why I can do this quite easily and others can't. I'm using Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Version 10.0.17134.1
> Would that make a difference?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Hill <hillco@...>
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 9:22 AM
> To: jfw@groups.io
> Subject: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.
>
> I tried using drag and drop.  Although it made the appropriate noises on my windows 10 computer, it didn't actually work.  If you want to do this the simplest way I can think of, do the following.
> unpin everything from the taskbar by right-clicking or the equivalent on each item and choosing unpin.  Now, open the run box with windows+r and type shell:appsvolder and press enter.  This will open a folder with shortcuts to all your apps.  Do the equivalent of right click and pin any you want on the taskbar in the order in which you want them.
>
>
> CH
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: Picture smart

Oliver Edholm
 

Hi! Sorry for plugging in NVDA here. There is an add-on called "Image describer" for NVDA that does these things, would it be useful if it also was transferred to a JAWS script? Regards, Oliver


Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9

Jaffar Sidek
 

Also, if you are a programmer and use IDES as your programming tool, and if you need a folder source outside of your project to be included, the only way might be to drag that source that you need into your project's window via file explorer and drop it into your project. 

On 3/15/2019 11:25 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 01:04 AM, James Homuth wrote:
In which situations will transferring files and folders between applications not work using copy/paste? Genuinely curious, as that’s how I do it on a daily basis.
James, I have an example, though before I give it I will say that I don't even use drag and drop with sight to do this task, preferring the "New" button option then going out and selecting the files I want via a standard open dialog.

If you are using Google Drive, and create a new folder, in the center of the screen for the empty folder it says, "Drop files here, or use the New button."  You can have File Explorer windows open select files until you're blue in the face and use CTRL+C to copy (or CTRL+X if you intended to cut for a move) but you simply cannot paste on that particular Google Drive dialog.  The only thing that works in that instance is drop.

I can also think of instances where electronic versions of "draw the line from thing in column A to the correct corresponding thing in column B" type tests, that are meant to imitate the paper version of same, only work with drag and drop.  That style has fallen out of favor largely due to accessibility issues with it.

Moving the columns displayed in the inbox (and other folders) in Thunderbird can only be (or at least used to only be, I haven't done this in a while) doable via drag and drop.

Because drag and drop is a fundamental feature of every GUI I've ever used, dropping support for it in any screen reader seems to me to be a very, very ill-thought-out decision.   You may not need to use it often, and I actually use copy/cut and paste way more myself, but there are times when it's the only alternative and, if you're a screen reader user and the screen reader doesn't support it, that cuts accessibility right there.
 
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2 dialog windows on exit

netbat66
 

hi,
i figured out why i was getting 2 dialog windows when i try to exit jaws from the systray.
i just found out about setting the jaws cursor to follow the pc cursor.
this is jaws ,control and number pad jaws cursor keys.
this option will reset to off when you change it or when you reload jaws the next time.
this is about the same as the window eyes track mouse with focus.
i use this on the desktop to re arange the desktop icons the mouse will follow the icons that have focus so i can hold and drag them where i want them to be on the screen.
since i know where the mouse pointer will be i can open a context menu on the icon and use cut. arrow to the icon where a blank space will be then move the mouse a little bit to the blank spot where jaws will say the mouse is on the desktop and paste the icon there.
i couldn't do this until i found out about the option to make the jaws cursor follow the pc cursor.
any way, with this option on jaws will open the tandom dialog and the shut down dialogs on the screen at the same time. with just the arrow keys.
until this i didn't even know there were more options availible to me.
i can still get to the shutdown dialog with the mouse when the this option is still on.
but not with the arrow keys.
hope this helps others.


Re: How do I move into and out of the header/footer pane in MS Word 2016?

Heather Thomas <heather.thomas@...>
 

Hi Richard,
To get into the header/footer pane in Word 2016, press the following
sequence of keys:
Alt + N to go to the Insert tab of the ribbon.
H for Header.
Then E for Edit header.

To exit Header/Footer view, press Escape.

Hope that helps,
Heather

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I move into and out of the header/footer pane in MS Word
2016?

I tried control+alt+n as suggested below, and also control+F6 as someone
else suggested. Neither works. The former changed the document view to
"draft" (which such view yielded no resolution) and the latter did nothing.
So, my question remains: How do I move into and out of the header/footer
pane in MS Word 2016?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 5:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I move into and out of the header/footer pane in MS Word
2016?

Try ctrl+alt+n.
At 06:21 PM 3/14/2019, you wrote:
Well, as I mentioned at first below, F6 does not do it. The alt+v then
h thing works to get me *into* the header/footer pane, but my problem
still remains once there - I cannot get out of it and back into the
document pane.
So, my question persists: how do you move between the header/footer
pane and the document pane?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 11:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I move into and out of the header/footer pane in MS
Word 2016?

F6 should do it. I always use alt-v, then h. It is a carry-over from
before the ribbon. To insert a header is alt+n, then h.
At 08:41 AM 3/14/2019, you wrote:
Hi!

I am using JAWS 2019 and MS Word 2016 under Windows 7. In a
particular Word document, I went through the ribbons to create a
footer, and ended-up in that pane. But, I got stuck in it and could
not figure out how to move between it and the main document pane. F6
only moved me around virtual ribbons / status bar / footer pane,
never getting back to the main document pane. So, how do you get
into and out of the footer pane?

Thanks,
Richard












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Re: How do I move into and out of the header/footer pane in MS Word 2016?

Ann Byrne
 

On my Word 2016 alt+v, then h is a toggle. It goes to the header pane and returns to the document.
Alt+n, then h goes to the header pane on the ribbon.
Pressing f6 about three times returns to the document. Header/footer is/are on the insert menu, which is alt+n.

Alt+n, then h also goes to the header pane. At 10:26 AM 3/15/2019, you wrote:

I tried control+alt+n as suggested below, and also control+F6 as someone
else suggested. Neither works. The former changed the document view to
"draft" (which such view yielded no resolution) and the latter did nothing.
So, my question remains: How do I move into and out of the header/footer
pane in MS Word 2016?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 5:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I move into and out of the header/footer pane in MS Word
2016?

Try ctrl+alt+n.
At 06:21 PM 3/14/2019, you wrote:
Well, as I mentioned at first below, F6 does not do it. The alt+v then
h thing works to get me *into* the header/footer pane, but my problem
still remains once there - I cannot get out of it and back into the
document pane.
So, my question persists: how do you move between the header/footer
pane and the document pane?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 11:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I move into and out of the header/footer pane in MS
Word 2016?

F6 should do it. I always use alt-v, then h. It is a carry-over from
before the ribbon. To insert a header is alt+n, then h.
At 08:41 AM 3/14/2019, you wrote:
Hi!

I am using JAWS 2019 and MS Word 2016 under Windows 7. In a
particular Word document, I went through the ribbons to create a
footer, and ended-up in that pane. But, I got stuck in it and could
not figure out how to move between it and the main document pane. F6
only moved me around virtual ribbons / status bar / footer pane,
never getting back to the main document pane. So, how do you get
into and out of the footer pane?

Thanks,
Richard









Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Don. If you use the Windows key plus R command, and type in winver, you should get a dialog which has the following format:

Microsoft Windows
Version 1809
(OS Build 17763.379)

As you can see, the version number is designated, along with the build number.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

I can only use what Oracle gives me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hill <hillco@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

If I‘M reading that right you are running the spring 2017 update. Might be time to do some updating. That’s probably why it is still working for you.

CH
On Mar 15, 2019, at 10:40, Don Mauck <don.mauck@oracle.com> wrote:

I don't know why I can do this quite easily and others can't. I'm
using Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Version 10.0.17134.1 Would that make a difference?
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hill <hillco@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 9:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

I tried using drag and drop. Although it made the appropriate noises on my windows 10 computer, it didn't actually work. If you want to do this the simplest way I can think of, do the following.
unpin everything from the taskbar by right-clicking or the equivalent on each item and choosing unpin. Now, open the run box with windows+r and type shell:appsvolder and press enter. This will open a folder with shortcuts to all your apps. Do the equivalent of right click and pin any you want on the taskbar in the order in which you want them.


CH






Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

 

Bill,

          If order does not matter as far as where the Eset icon would be constantly visible in the system tray, the easiest thing to do is to open Settings, search on "Select which icons," which will turn up the setting for, "Select which icons appear on the taskbar"  (and, in this case, it's the notification area/system tray area of the taskbar), then finding Eset in the dialog presented and toggling it on.  Anything that gets toggled on in that dialog will be permanently visible in the system tray rather than being pushed to the overflow area which one must access via the notification chevron.

          I have yet to find a technique that allows drag and drop rearrangement of the icons that are shown in the system tray using a screen reader, though one can rearrange them via actual mouse drag and drop.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9

Maria Campbell
 

I could never get it to work.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

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On 3/14/2019 7:35 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Copy and paste work in the areas where they are supposed to work. And that's good. I sure use them a lot too. But as has been said, it's not the same thing; not all software has an edit menu with those options and not all items are clipboard accessible. It's kind of an essential feature and yes, it's probably worth making a fuss about.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: March 14, 2019 7:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9

i have never used it either. windows copy and paste has been working for me since windows 95

-----Original Message-----
From: Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 3:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9



Well Steve I don t thinhk its not worth crying over spilled megabites sir. Like
I said I don t use it. Most of us don t so have at it with big bad Vispero if
you want it back.






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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Steve Matzura
<number6@noisynotes.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 5:42:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9


I think we all need to tell them to unretire it. What a ridiculous thing to
do--remove a very useful and sometimes very necessary feature.




On 3/14/2019 5:27 PM, Bill White wrote:


Hi, Brian. Vispero says that CONTROL plus JAWS Key plus NumPad slash has been
retired from JAWS as Drag and Drop. They told me that it was an oversight that
it has not been removed from the documentation files.



Bill White



billwhite92701@dslextreme.com









Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

Don Mauck
 

I can only use what Oracle gives me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hill <hillco@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

If I‘M reading that right you are running the spring 2017 update. Might be time to do some updating. That’s probably why it is still working for you.

CH
On Mar 15, 2019, at 10:40, Don Mauck <don.mauck@oracle.com> wrote:

I don't know why I can do this quite easily and others can't. I'm
using Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Version 10.0.17134.1 Would that make a difference?
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hill <hillco@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 9:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

I tried using drag and drop. Although it made the appropriate noises on my windows 10 computer, it didn't actually work. If you want to do this the simplest way I can think of, do the following.
unpin everything from the taskbar by right-clicking or the equivalent on each item and choosing unpin. Now, open the run box with windows+r and type shell:appsvolder and press enter. This will open a folder with shortcuts to all your apps. Do the equivalent of right click and pin any you want on the taskbar in the order in which you want them.


CH






Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

 

It is helpful, truly, if Windows 10 version and build are both expressed separately, and from the dialog given by the winver command.

Anything that's got 17134 in the mix is part of Version 1803.  That version and build are wed to each other.   There are still a lot of machines that have not yet received the fall update from last year, although the pace of the rollout picked up an amazing amount of speed about a month ago after having been glacially slow by intent after the early debacles in the rollout.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Chris. What I want to do is rearrange things in System Tray, not actually in the Taskbar, so unpinning things in the Taskbar won't work in this instance. What is actually happening is that I used to have an icon for Eset NOD32, my antivirus program, which was one of the first icons in System Tray. Now, in order to find this icon I must turn on all icons in System Tray, or, use the Notification Icon to go to the overflow section of icons in System Tray. What I want to do is rearrange the icons so that the Eset NOD32 icon is where it used to be.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

I tried using drag and drop. Although it made the appropriate noises on
my windows 10 computer, it didn't actually work. If you want to do this
the simplest way I can think of, do the following.
unpin everything from the taskbar by right-clicking or the equivalent on
each item and choosing unpin. Now, open the run box with windows+r and
type shell:appsvolder and press enter. This will open a folder with
shortcuts to all your apps. Do the equivalent of right click and pin
any you want on the taskbar in the order in which you want them.


CH