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Re: Chrome and passwords

 

Sharon,

           Yes.  When you bring up the Chrome Passwords page there is a section with the Saved Passwords list (by site) and a Never Saved section (also arranged by site).

           I cannot tell you any more than that, as I absolutely never allow any browser to save passwords.

Bill,

           I do not know what the underlying architecture is.  I infer, from what the settings now read, that the actual password storage itself is probably cloud-based, but there is no way I can be 100% certain of that.  These things get changed at the will of the developers, and since they're stored in encrypted form I wouldn't recognize them easily if they are stored locally.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Chrome and passwords

Sharon
 

So, if I want to change my password for either gmail or scribd, this is where I should go. Right?

Sharon

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 11:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome and passwords

 

That depends on exactly what you want to manage (and which version of Chrome).

Under Version 69, Chrome menu, Settings, Passwords - under the People section, which is the first Section on the Settings Page.

Passwords themselves are now managed under one's Google Account at https://passwords.google.com
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

Jerry Berrier <jerry.berrier@...>
 

Sometimes everything goes back to normal after I alt-tab away and come back.  Other times, I end up having to unload Chrome in the task manager before anything will work right.

 

 

Jerry Berrier

Director of Education Technology

Perkins School for the Blind
175 North Beacon Street
Watertown MA 02472
P: 617-972-7826
Perkins.org

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 3:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

Just curious. When this happens with Firefox and JAWS “comes back”, can you then activate links? If you alt-tab away from Firefox and then return to it, does the virtual cursor/buffer come on, or are you stuck in PC mode? Can you close firefox with alt-f4?

 

I haven’t detected any pattern about what sites cause this hang to happen; it seems to involve pages with many links, though, possibly. Anyway, if you are experiencing the same thing, it’s some kind of jAWS bug.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
Sent: September 17, 2018 10:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem.

I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10.

I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always.

I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.

 

Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.

 

Any thoughts on how to remedy this?

 

 

Jerry Berrier

Director of Education Technology

Perkins School for the Blind
175 North Beacon Street
Watertown MA 02472
P: 617-972-7826
Perkins.org

 


 


Re: Chrome and passwords

Bill White
 

My question, then, is this: Are the passwords you enter for webpages like BARD, etc saved as you said in an earlier post, in

 

https://passwords.google.com

 

or are they saved on the local computer as other browsers have done in the past? I thought only passwords associated with Google would be saved at

 

https://passwords.google.com

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 8:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome and passwords

 

Exactly where I mentioned.  After you've brought up Chrome Menu, Settings, Password -  the dialog that appears has the "Offer to save passwords" toggle as the first item.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Chrome and passwords

 

Exactly where I mentioned.  After you've brought up Chrome Menu, Settings, Password -  the dialog that appears has the "Offer to save passwords" toggle as the first item.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Chrome and passwords

Bill White
 

What I’m referring to is managing whether or not Chrome remembers passwords, and how to get Chrome to save a password after logging onto a website.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 8:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome and passwords

 

That depends on exactly what you want to manage (and which version of Chrome).

Under Version 69, Chrome menu, Settings, Passwords - under the People section, which is the first Section on the Settings Page.

Passwords themselves are now managed under one's Google Account at https://passwords.google.com
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Chrome and passwords

 

That depends on exactly what you want to manage (and which version of Chrome).

Under Version 69, Chrome menu, Settings, Passwords - under the People section, which is the first Section on the Settings Page.

Passwords themselves are now managed under one's Google Account at https://passwords.google.com
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Chrome and passwords

Bill White
 

What is the best way to get to the “Manage Passwords settings in Google Chrome?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 


Moving Emails to Folders in Outlook 2016

Brian Prewitt
 

Good afternoon,

My company recently upgraded to Office 2016, and I have a coworker who is having trouble moving emails to folders. He used to go to the Home tab then to the Move section. He would hit spacebar and be able to choose from several folders. Now, he gets to the move item and Jaws says there’s a grid and he can’t go to the grid by tabbing or using the arrow keys. He is on Windows 7 and the latest build of jaws 2018. He used to be able to do this function in Outlook 2010.

Thanks for your help,

Brian Prewitt
Information Systemsupgrsed Manager
Mississippi Industries for the Blind
2501 North West Street
Jackson, MS 39216
Office: 601.984.3213


Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Hi Bill.

 

Really? That’s weird. Because I haven’t been able to reproduce the problem with NVDA at all, whereas it happens with JAWS multiple times a day.

I say this while jAWS is still my primary screen-reader – after all, I did just buy the 2018 upgrade – however I switch to NVDA periodically and try to duplicate the same browsing habits. No hangs yet.

 

I just asked my sighted girlfriend, whom I thought was using Firefox on her laptop, but it turns out she’s on chrome. Still though, I’ll guess that non-screen-reader users are not having this problem.

 

I’ll see if I can duplicate with NVDA again, or Narrator even, though I don’t really use the latter at all. Seems like there are some crossed wires here as the other fellow who was communicating with VFO, I think, already had determined that it was a JAWS issue. But well, it’s obviously connected with both, somehow, and there might indeed be something VFO has to do to fix Firefox support in the next update, regardless of whether the bug originated with Mozilla.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 17, 2018 3:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

Hi, JM. I was just on the phone with VFO, and we even reproduced the issue on my machine with JAWS unloaded, using Narrator. So, either it is a Firefox/Windows problem, or it is a Firefox problem which affects computers running any screen reader, even Narrator. I wish I could have had someone sighted here to find out if Firefox is still freezing when a screen reader isn’t present at all.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’ve been talking with someone else on these lists about this issue and we have sent in reports to FS. It is a JAWS bug that Freedom Scientific techs have now susccessfully replicated. Assuming it’s the same experience, at least. JAWS lags for a few seconds, then appears to work, but no Firefox menus or links will function, and you have to close the program with task manager.

 

Maybe fixed by jAWS October 2018 update? That’d be nice. Kind of annoying to have a Process Explorer window running all the time ready to restart Firefox.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 17, 2018 2:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

Hi, Cristóbal. I’m having this same lagging and freezing in Firefox. Here is my processor and RAM info.

 

Processor

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz   4.00 GHz

Installed RAM

16.0 GB (15.9 GB usable)

 

Here is my JAWS and Windows info:

 

About JAWS

JAWS Job Access With Speech

Home Use Edition

Version 2018.1808.10 ILM 

 

About Windows

Microsoft Windows

Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.285)

 

My Firefox version:

 

Firefox Version 62.0

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

Getting similar issues. Also frequently in Outlook 2016.

So much to the point where it drove me off of my tower and I’m working mainly off of my laptop.

Probably with more time, I’ll try to play around with the two to see if there are any extra processes, etc, but I’m genrealy good about that sort of thing.

Anyway, The laggy, crashing and over all crappy Jaws performance I’ve been experiencing on my Dell tower for the past couple of weeks I so far haven’t experienced on my HP Envy laptop.

Both PCs have I core 7 processors, but the tower has 8 GB or ram. Where as the laptop’s got 16. The issues on the tower have become so significant and sudden that I can’t think that it suddenly has to do with the ram.

Running Windows 10, latest JFW 2018, current Firefox/Chrome etc on both machines. So who knows…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m noticing it, too, and one site, radio.com, crashes firefox, and I have to kill it with Task Manager.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem.

I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10.

I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always.

I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.

 

Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.

 

Any thoughts on how to remedy this?

 

 

Jerry Berrier

Director of Education Technology

Perkins School for the Blind
175 North Beacon Street
Watertown MA 02472
P: 617-972-7826
Perkins.org

 


 


Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

Cristóbal
 

This is helpful to know. Unfortunately, I’ve got problems with Outlook. I’m a heavy Outlook user usually with three instances open at one time and in separate virtual desktops.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 12:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

Hi, JM. I was just on the phone with VFO, and we even reproduced the issue on my machine with JAWS unloaded, using Narrator. So, either it is a Firefox/Windows problem, or it is a Firefox problem which affects computers running any screen reader, even Narrator. I wish I could have had someone sighted here to find out if Firefox is still freezing when a screen reader isn’t present at all.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’ve been talking with someone else on these lists about this issue and we have sent in reports to FS. It is a JAWS bug that Freedom Scientific techs have now susccessfully replicated. Assuming it’s the same experience, at least. JAWS lags for a few seconds, then appears to work, but no Firefox menus or links will function, and you have to close the program with task manager.

 

Maybe fixed by jAWS October 2018 update? That’d be nice. Kind of annoying to have a Process Explorer window running all the time ready to restart Firefox.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 17, 2018 2:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

Hi, Cristóbal. I’m having this same lagging and freezing in Firefox. Here is my processor and RAM info.

 

Processor

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz   4.00 GHz

Installed RAM

16.0 GB (15.9 GB usable)

 

Here is my JAWS and Windows info:

 

About JAWS

JAWS Job Access With Speech

Home Use Edition

Version 2018.1808.10 ILM 

 

About Windows

Microsoft Windows

Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.285)

 

My Firefox version:

 

Firefox Version 62.0

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

Getting similar issues. Also frequently in Outlook 2016.

So much to the point where it drove me off of my tower and I’m working mainly off of my laptop.

Probably with more time, I’ll try to play around with the two to see if there are any extra processes, etc, but I’m genrealy good about that sort of thing.

Anyway, The laggy, crashing and over all crappy Jaws performance I’ve been experiencing on my Dell tower for the past couple of weeks I so far haven’t experienced on my HP Envy laptop.

Both PCs have I core 7 processors, but the tower has 8 GB or ram. Where as the laptop’s got 16. The issues on the tower have become so significant and sudden that I can’t think that it suddenly has to do with the ram.

Running Windows 10, latest JFW 2018, current Firefox/Chrome etc on both machines. So who knows…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m noticing it, too, and one site, radio.com, crashes firefox, and I have to kill it with Task Manager.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem.

I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10.

I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always.

I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.

 

Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.

 

Any thoughts on how to remedy this?

 

 

Jerry Berrier

Director of Education Technology

Perkins School for the Blind
175 North Beacon Street
Watertown MA 02472
P: 617-972-7826
Perkins.org

 


 


Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

Bill White
 

Hi, JM. I was just on the phone with VFO, and we even reproduced the issue on my machine with JAWS unloaded, using Narrator. So, either it is a Firefox/Windows problem, or it is a Firefox problem which affects computers running any screen reader, even Narrator. I wish I could have had someone sighted here to find out if Firefox is still freezing when a screen reader isn’t present at all.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’ve been talking with someone else on these lists about this issue and we have sent in reports to FS. It is a JAWS bug that Freedom Scientific techs have now susccessfully replicated. Assuming it’s the same experience, at least. JAWS lags for a few seconds, then appears to work, but no Firefox menus or links will function, and you have to close the program with task manager.

 

Maybe fixed by jAWS October 2018 update? That’d be nice. Kind of annoying to have a Process Explorer window running all the time ready to restart Firefox.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 17, 2018 2:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

Hi, Cristóbal. I’m having this same lagging and freezing in Firefox. Here is my processor and RAM info.

 

Processor

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz   4.00 GHz

Installed RAM

16.0 GB (15.9 GB usable)

 

Here is my JAWS and Windows info:

 

About JAWS

JAWS Job Access With Speech

Home Use Edition

Version 2018.1808.10 ILM 

 

About Windows

Microsoft Windows

Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.285)

 

My Firefox version:

 

Firefox Version 62.0

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

Getting similar issues. Also frequently in Outlook 2016.

So much to the point where it drove me off of my tower and I’m working mainly off of my laptop.

Probably with more time, I’ll try to play around with the two to see if there are any extra processes, etc, but I’m genrealy good about that sort of thing.

Anyway, The laggy, crashing and over all crappy Jaws performance I’ve been experiencing on my Dell tower for the past couple of weeks I so far haven’t experienced on my HP Envy laptop.

Both PCs have I core 7 processors, but the tower has 8 GB or ram. Where as the laptop’s got 16. The issues on the tower have become so significant and sudden that I can’t think that it suddenly has to do with the ram.

Running Windows 10, latest JFW 2018, current Firefox/Chrome etc on both machines. So who knows…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m noticing it, too, and one site, radio.com, crashes firefox, and I have to kill it with Task Manager.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem.

I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10.

I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always.

I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.

 

Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.

 

Any thoughts on how to remedy this?

 

 

Jerry Berrier

Director of Education Technology

Perkins School for the Blind
175 North Beacon Street
Watertown MA 02472
P: 617-972-7826
Perkins.org

 


 


Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Just curious. When this happens with Firefox and JAWS “comes back”, can you then activate links? If you alt-tab away from Firefox and then return to it, does the virtual cursor/buffer come on, or are you stuck in PC mode? Can you close firefox with alt-f4?

 

I haven’t detected any pattern about what sites cause this hang to happen; it seems to involve pages with many links, though, possibly. Anyway, if you are experiencing the same thing, it’s some kind of jAWS bug.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
Sent: September 17, 2018 10:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem.

I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10.

I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always.

I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.

 

Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.

 

Any thoughts on how to remedy this?

 

 

Jerry Berrier

Director of Education Technology

Perkins School for the Blind
175 North Beacon Street
Watertown MA 02472
P: 617-972-7826
Perkins.org

 


 


Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

I’ve been talking with someone else on these lists about this issue and we have sent in reports to FS. It is a JAWS bug that Freedom Scientific techs have now susccessfully replicated. Assuming it’s the same experience, at least. JAWS lags for a few seconds, then appears to work, but no Firefox menus or links will function, and you have to close the program with task manager.

 

Maybe fixed by jAWS October 2018 update? That’d be nice. Kind of annoying to have a Process Explorer window running all the time ready to restart Firefox.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 17, 2018 2:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

Hi, Cristóbal. I’m having this same lagging and freezing in Firefox. Here is my processor and RAM info.

 

Processor

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz   4.00 GHz

Installed RAM

16.0 GB (15.9 GB usable)

 

Here is my JAWS and Windows info:

 

About JAWS

JAWS Job Access With Speech

Home Use Edition

Version 2018.1808.10 ILM 

 

About Windows

Microsoft Windows

Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.285)

 

My Firefox version:

 

Firefox Version 62.0

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

Getting similar issues. Also frequently in Outlook 2016.

So much to the point where it drove me off of my tower and I’m working mainly off of my laptop.

Probably with more time, I’ll try to play around with the two to see if there are any extra processes, etc, but I’m genrealy good about that sort of thing.

Anyway, The laggy, crashing and over all crappy Jaws performance I’ve been experiencing on my Dell tower for the past couple of weeks I so far haven’t experienced on my HP Envy laptop.

Both PCs have I core 7 processors, but the tower has 8 GB or ram. Where as the laptop’s got 16. The issues on the tower have become so significant and sudden that I can’t think that it suddenly has to do with the ram.

Running Windows 10, latest JFW 2018, current Firefox/Chrome etc on both machines. So who knows…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m noticing it, too, and one site, radio.com, crashes firefox, and I have to kill it with Task Manager.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem.

I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10.

I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always.

I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.

 

Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.

 

Any thoughts on how to remedy this?

 

 

Jerry Berrier

Director of Education Technology

Perkins School for the Blind
175 North Beacon Street
Watertown MA 02472
P: 617-972-7826
Perkins.org

 


 


Re: Firefox extended support release

ratshtron
 

would happen to have a direct link to download crome? thanks.


Legend has it that on Monday 9/17/2018 02:58 AM, paul lemm said:
----------------------------------------

Hi Marty,

Chrome actually works really well with jaws 18,
I haven’t had any issues with it at all. I
also find chrome a lot faster than most other
browsers, which is one of the main reasons I use it.


Paul

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: 17 September 2018 00:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox extended support release

Paul, How does Crome work with JAWS 18? I am
using Firefox version 52 and JAWS 18 and it
works, but I have run into problems with some
web pages and want a different browser and you
say that you use Crome as your main browser with Firefox as a back up.

Love in Christ
Marty

From: <mailto:paul.lemm@...>paul lemm
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 4:46 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox extended support release

Hi Bill,

I had the same issue the other day ,I’m only
running jaws 18, so looks like that’s what
the issue must be. In all fairness I actually
use chrome as my main browser, but use Firefox
as a backup. I should be able to find and
download an older version of Firefox and work
out how to prevent it updating, but just wanted
to check which version of Firefox I would be
looking to download that would still work with
jaws 18. Can you confirm which version I’m
looking for? As for the security side of
everything, I completely understand risks of not
using the most up to date browser and I’m fine
with that side of things, especially since I
really only use Firefox as a backup option as I mentioned previously.

Paul

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 15 September 2018 23:58
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox extended support release

Well, I did this for a number of years. I use
Eset NOD32 as my antivirus, and I turned off all
the threat measures in Firefox. I don’t need
multilayers of protection, as long as my
antivirus and firewall are working and up-to-date.

If I were going to help someone do this, I would
give them caveats, but many people don’t want
to pay for another version of JAWS, and may want
to stay with their same browser.

Bill White

<mailto:billwhite92701@...>billwhite92701@...

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 3:49 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox extended support release

Hey Bill.

You seem to know what you’re talking about in
this group and so I don’t want to come off as overly critical….

But are you sure helping people to do this is
really a worthy cause? At least, without some important caveats?
Mozilla themselves do not recommend doing this.
Version 52 won’t even be receiving security
updates anymore. I suppose it’s all right, so
long as people understand that it should be only
a temporary measure til they get around to switching to a different course.

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 15, 2018 6:45 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox extended support release

Hi, Marilyn. The problem is that whichever
version of Firefox you had previously, it
updated automatically, and, because you don’t
have JAWS 2018, Firefox 62.0 will not work with your version of JAWS.

The only thing to do is to download an earlier
version of Firefox and, after installing it,
make sure you disable automatic updating of
Firefox. This takes a few steps to make sure it doesn’t update.

If you are interested, Write back. I’ll have
you call me, and I’ll also walk you through
the process of disabling any future updates.

Bill White

<mailto:billwhite92701@...>billwhite92701@...

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 3:39 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox extended support release

I checked on my desktop and Firefox is there but
I cannot tell what version it is.

The whole message says “Display of tab content
has been disabled. Update your screenreader
software or switch to Firefox extended support release.â€


Re: open book

John Gurd
 

There are Open Book features that cannot be incorporated into JFW such as the ability to import and read various document formats. Personally, I  think it is pretty disgraceful it has not been updated in years. It still can’t read Epub format for instance.

 

John

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Francisco Salvador Crespo
Sent: 17 September 2018 14:34
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: open book

 

It is clear that they expect to improve the product but we don’t know if they will release something in the next years or simply get red of OB and implement the advanced Reading features in Jaws.

What we know is that VFO has a hole portfolio of hardware and software Reading tolos and OB features will have to be implemented somewhere.

 

De: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> En nombre de Richard Turner
Enviado el: lunes, 17 de septiembre de 2018 10:25
Para: main@jfw.groups.io
Asunto: Re: open book

 

Well, I’m not holding my breath.  I was told that over 3 years ago, not by Eric, but by a couple other staff people.

 

Richard, the sceptic

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Francisco Salvador Crespo
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 6:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: open book

 

I asked Eric at his presentation to the NFB convention. His answer  was that VFO will eventually release a new version but for now they are working hard on Jaws and some other things..

Enviado desde mi iPhone


El 17 sept 2018, a las 9:58, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> escribió:

I joined the Openbook beta team in about 2004 or so, and there has not been any traffic on that group since Openbook 9.

I believe that was either late 2013 or early 2014.

I personally suspect Openbook has gotten as good as it will ever get and VFO is focusing on the OCR in Jaws.

But, I have heard nothing from VFO about Openbook, so that is pure speculation on my part.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 11:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: open book

 

The other question is if, there is another updated version of Open Book, would ones who purchased the 9 be able to get the newer version?  Or would they have to shell out the extra money. At least ones who purchased Window Eyes were able to migrate for free to JAWS.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Isaac
Sent: September 16, 2018 10:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: openbook

 

Hi, has anyone heard roomers or facts about a new openbook release, it would be nice to use vocalizer voices and other things as well?


Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

Jerry Berrier <jerry.berrier@...>
 

I have 24GB of RAM at home, and that does not help at all.

 

 

Jerry Berrier

Director of Education Technology

Perkins School for the Blind
175 North Beacon Street
Watertown MA 02472
P: 617-972-7826
Perkins.org

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 2:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

Me too, but I have 6 ram on laptop; wonder if that makes a difference. IE keeps freezing as does Firefox and Jaws is really acting crazy with Bookshare as well. Jaws 2018 that is. Jaws 17 works fine with Bookshare.

So strange.

Sharon

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

Getting similar issues. Also frequently in Outlook 2016.

So much to the point where it drove me off of my tower and I’m working mainly off of my laptop.

Probably with more time, I’ll try to play around with the two to see if there are any extra processes, etc, but I’m genrealy good about that sort of thing.

Anyway, The laggy, crashing and over all crappy Jaws performance I’ve been experiencing on my Dell tower for the past couple of weeks I so far haven’t experienced on my HP Envy laptop.

Both PCs have I core 7 processors, but the tower has 8 GB or ram. Where as the laptop’s got 16. The issues on the tower have become so significant and sudden that I can’t think that it suddenly has to do with the ram.

Running Windows 10, latest JFW 2018, current Firefox/Chrome etc on both machines. So who knows…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m noticing it, too, and one site, radio.com, crashes firefox, and I have to kill it with Task Manager.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem.

I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10.

I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always.

I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.

 

Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.

 

Any thoughts on how to remedy this?

 

 

Jerry Berrier

Director of Education Technology

Perkins School for the Blind
175 North Beacon Street
Watertown MA 02472
P: 617-972-7826
Perkins.org

 


 


Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

Bill White
 

Hi, Cristóbal. I’m having this same lagging and freezing in Firefox. Here is my processor and RAM info.

 

Processor

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz   4.00 GHz

Installed RAM

16.0 GB (15.9 GB usable)

 

Here is my JAWS and Windows info:

 

About JAWS

JAWS Job Access With Speech

Home Use Edition

Version 2018.1808.10 ILM 

 

About Windows

Microsoft Windows

Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.285)

 

My Firefox version:

 

Firefox Version 62.0

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

Getting similar issues. Also frequently in Outlook 2016.

So much to the point where it drove me off of my tower and I’m working mainly off of my laptop.

Probably with more time, I’ll try to play around with the two to see if there are any extra processes, etc, but I’m genrealy good about that sort of thing.

Anyway, The laggy, crashing and over all crappy Jaws performance I’ve been experiencing on my Dell tower for the past couple of weeks I so far haven’t experienced on my HP Envy laptop.

Both PCs have I core 7 processors, but the tower has 8 GB or ram. Where as the laptop’s got 16. The issues on the tower have become so significant and sudden that I can’t think that it suddenly has to do with the ram.

Running Windows 10, latest JFW 2018, current Firefox/Chrome etc on both machines. So who knows…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m noticing it, too, and one site, radio.com, crashes firefox, and I have to kill it with Task Manager.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem.

I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10.

I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always.

I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.

 

Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.

 

Any thoughts on how to remedy this?

 

 

Jerry Berrier

Director of Education Technology

Perkins School for the Blind
175 North Beacon Street
Watertown MA 02472
P: 617-972-7826
Perkins.org

 


 


Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

Sharon
 

Me too, but I have 6 ram on laptop; wonder if that makes a difference. IE keeps freezing as does Firefox and Jaws is really acting crazy with Bookshare as well. Jaws 2018 that is. Jaws 17 works fine with Bookshare.

So strange.

Sharon

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

Getting similar issues. Also frequently in Outlook 2016.

So much to the point where it drove me off of my tower and I’m working mainly off of my laptop.

Probably with more time, I’ll try to play around with the two to see if there are any extra processes, etc, but I’m genrealy good about that sort of thing.

Anyway, The laggy, crashing and over all crappy Jaws performance I’ve been experiencing on my Dell tower for the past couple of weeks I so far haven’t experienced on my HP Envy laptop.

Both PCs have I core 7 processors, but the tower has 8 GB or ram. Where as the laptop’s got 16. The issues on the tower have become so significant and sudden that I can’t think that it suddenly has to do with the ram.

Running Windows 10, latest JFW 2018, current Firefox/Chrome etc on both machines. So who knows…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m noticing it, too, and one site, radio.com, crashes firefox, and I have to kill it with Task Manager.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem.

I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10.

I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always.

I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.

 

Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.

 

Any thoughts on how to remedy this?

 

 

Jerry Berrier

Director of Education Technology

Perkins School for the Blind
175 North Beacon Street
Watertown MA 02472
P: 617-972-7826
Perkins.org

 


 


Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

Cristóbal
 

Getting similar issues. Also frequently in Outlook 2016.

So much to the point where it drove me off of my tower and I’m working mainly off of my laptop.

Probably with more time, I’ll try to play around with the two to see if there are any extra processes, etc, but I’m genrealy good about that sort of thing.

Anyway, The laggy, crashing and over all crappy Jaws performance I’ve been experiencing on my Dell tower for the past couple of weeks I so far haven’t experienced on my HP Envy laptop.

Both PCs have I core 7 processors, but the tower has 8 GB or ram. Where as the laptop’s got 16. The issues on the tower have become so significant and sudden that I can’t think that it suddenly has to do with the ram.

Running Windows 10, latest JFW 2018, current Firefox/Chrome etc on both machines. So who knows…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m noticing it, too, and one site, radio.com, crashes firefox, and I have to kill it with Task Manager.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Firefox Lagging and Freezing

 

I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem.

I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10.

I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always.

I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.

 

Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.

 

Any thoughts on how to remedy this?

 

 

Jerry Berrier

Director of Education Technology

Perkins School for the Blind
175 North Beacon Street
Watertown MA 02472
P: 617-972-7826
Perkins.org