Re: New Computer
Bill White
I am aware of this, but if you really want to have a sense of what you're deleting, some prefer to use a delete option rather than the delete key.
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Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66 Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 10:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New Computer you don't need to open a context menu. and you can also use control i to open the same bookmark menu with only 2 keys. when you get to the bookmark you want to delete just press the delete key on it. no context menu needed. Try this: 1. Open Firefox. 2. Press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus B to open Bookmarks. 3. Navigate to the bookmark you wish to delete. 4. Press SHIFT plus F10, and arrow down to Delete. 5. Press ENTER. That's it. The bookmark is deleted. Deleting a bookmark from the standard bookmarks menu won't work, no matter how you attempt to delete it. You must open the Show All Bookmarks menu with CONTROL plus SHIFT plus B first, before bookmarks may be deleted, either with the Delete key, SHIFT plus F10, or Application key. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 9:18 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New Computer Let me see if I can explain it better. Shift f10 won’t work if you are trying to right-click on a bookmark in the menu so you can get the context menu to delete it. That’s the only place I’ve ever found where it doesn’t work, but there it is. On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:41, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
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Re: New Computer
netbat66
you don't need to open a context menu. and you can also use control i to open the same bookmark menu with only 2 keys.
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when you get to the bookmark you want to delete just press the delete key on it. no context menu needed. Try this: 1. Open Firefox. 2. Press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus B to open Bookmarks. 3. Navigate to the bookmark you wish to delete. 4. Press SHIFT plus F10, and arrow down to Delete. 5. Press ENTER. That's it. The bookmark is deleted. Deleting a bookmark from the standard bookmarks menu won't work, no matter how you attempt to delete it. You must open the Show All Bookmarks menu with CONTROL plus SHIFT plus B first, before bookmarks may be deleted, either with the Delete key, SHIFT plus F10, or Application key. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 9:18 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New Computer Let me see if I can explain it better. Shift f10 won’t work if you are trying to right-click on a bookmark in the menu so you can get the context menu to delete it. That’s the only place I’ve ever found where it doesn’t work, but there it is. On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:41, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
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Re: New Computer
Bill White
Hi, Chris. I just tried SHIFT plus F10 in Bookmarks in Firefox, and deleted a bookmark.
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Try this: 1. Open Firefox. 2. Press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus B to open Bookmarks. 3. Navigate to the bookmark you wish to delete. 4. Press SHIFT plus F10, and arrow down to Delete. 5. Press ENTER. That's it. The bookmark is deleted. Deleting a bookmark from the standard bookmarks menu won't work, no matter how you attempt to delete it. You must open the Show All Bookmarks menu with CONTROL plus SHIFT plus B first, before bookmarks may be deleted, either with the Delete key, SHIFT plus F10, or Application key. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 9:18 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New Computer Let me see if I can explain it better. Shift f10 won’t work if you are trying to right-click on a bookmark in the menu so you can get the context menu to delete it. That’s the only place I’ve ever found where it doesn’t work, but there it is. On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:41, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
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Re: Ccleaner replacement
Vaughn Brown
Thank you Paul. That helped a lot.
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Vaughn
On 11/7/18, paul lemm <paul.lemm@sky.com> wrote:
Hi,
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Re: Jaws and Very Large PDF documents
Jason White
Try the PDF reader that is built into current versions of Google Chrome. It
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works better in many cases than Adobe Reader, in my experience. Also, you could purchase and install ABBYY FineReader to convert the PDF files into HTML or Microsoft Word format. LAZZARI Ruth <ruth.lazzari@state.or.us> wrote:
Good Morning,
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Re: New Computer
Chris Hill
Let me see if I can explain it better. Shift f10 won’t work if you are trying to right-click on a bookmark in the menu so you can get the context menu to delete it. That’s the only place I’ve ever found where it doesn’t work, but there it is.
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On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:41, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
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Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?
Chris
America first!
From: Ron Pelletier
Sent: 08 November 2018 15:47 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?
Hi Nick and all,
In the US they love to identify themselves as America which is far from being correct. If they want to call themselves America, let them include all of North America. If they don't want to go overseas with this, due to language problems, that is their business but they should at least include all of North America in at least English which is the international language of computers.
Ron & Danvers
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 9:21 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?
Hi all I sent a message to FS support asking why the new Jaws yearly subscription plan is for US customers only, but I haven’t received any reply yet. Your thoughts on this?
As I see it, they are basically saying that us users outside the US don’t really require a more affordable way to purchase Jaws and that they are only giving this more affordable option to people in the US.
I’m also wondering what for example will stop me from simply using a friends US address when signing up for this plan. I doubt they’ll be monitoring where a user is located while using it, I think the only important thing to them is the address at sign up.
Nick
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Re: Evaluating laptop keyboards for jaws functionality
Kimber Gardner
I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the tip.
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On 11/8/18, netbat66 <netbat66@gmail.com> wrote:
i don't know if this would effect jaws. but be aware that some del and hp --
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Re: Evaluating laptop keyboards for jaws functionality
netbat66
i don't know if this would effect jaws. but be aware that some del and hp computers do not have a numlock key so you can not turn the number pad off to use the jaws functions. you would have to use the laptop layout even with a desktop keyboard.
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From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 8:27 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Evaluating laptop keyboards for jaws functionality I evaluate it by going to a computer store and putting my hands on it. This is one situation where ordering online can just be a less satisfying experience. Also, you mentioned you bought a 13 inch model, anything less than a 15 inch laptop will never have as complete a keyboard just because it's not large enough. There are plenty of 15 inch laptops out there which have full keyboards including a numeric pad. My Asus Zenbook has an application key, but I'm so used to pressing Shift+F10 that I rarely use it. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:56 AM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Evaluating laptop keyboards for jaws functionality Hi All, How do jaws users evaluate a keyboard on a laptop you are considering? I'm talking about the presence (or absence) of keys that are necessary to the functionality of jaws commands. I received a new Lenovo Ideapad and was dismayed to realize that the keyboard is missing not only the applications key but also the dedicated home, end, page up and page down keys. Strangely, my old Lenovo, the one I am typing this message on, has all these keys so it never occurred to me to try and verify that the new one would also. But now I'm wondering, how do you check the keyboard specs when ordering a new laptop that you haven't actually had your hands on? Before someone suggests an external keyboard let me say that I require the portability of a laptop that doesn't necessitate dragging around an extra keyboard. I also don't really want to remap a bunch of keys to accomplish everyday functions. So what do people suggest? Do I really have to drag myself over to microcenter or some other store so I can actually touch the laptop I'm considering? Is there another way? Thanks for your thoughts. Kim -- Kimberly
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Re: Evaluating laptop keyboards for jaws functionality
Kimber Gardner
The Asus ZenBook is one I'm considering. I can live with a 15 inch
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model for the better keyboard. I don't carry my laptop around all that often, but sometimes when I attend conferences the portability is essential. So for those situations a good keyboard is a must. Are you happy with the ZenBook overall?
On 11/8/18, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
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Re: New Computer
Cristóbal
My HP envy doesn't have this issue. From what I recall, I didn't have to go into the bios to change anything either when I first got it.
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Cristóbal
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:28 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New Computer And the Shift F10 combo on an HP sometimes requires the FN key as well ans sometimes not. That's probably my biggest issue with my HP laptop at home is sometimes the FN key is required and sometimes not. I often accidentally turn on airplane mode when trying to use JAWS F12 to check the time. I really do need to go get the bios changed. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:30 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New Computer in case it's not too late, on a laptop, the use of a missing application key is usually achieved by pressing shift+f10. -------- Original Message -------- From: Kimber Gardner [mailto:kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, Nov 8, 2018 7:55 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: New Computer Just guessing here, but there may not be an application key at all. I just bought a laptop that doesn't have one and it's going back to the seller. As for the function keys, they may be set to perform hardware functions rather than the application specific functions you would expect. I'm not sure how you would change that on an HP laptop. But you can get the app specific function by holding down the FN key while pressing the function keys. I hope this helps. On 11/8/18, Angie Goodnight <agoodnight@abilitycenter.org> wrote: Good morning all, I recently bought a new HP Laptop. I am having a couple of problems but I think it is me not the computer. Some of my shortcut keys are not working such as Insert F7 for links, or F7 for Spell Check. I cannot seem to find the application key where in the past it has always been two keys to the right of the space bar. I have my keyboard set to laptop. I have had no luck trying to search these issues online. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Kind Regards, Angie Goodnight This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: New Computer
Bill White
Hi, Chris. I just checked, and in Firefox version 63, SHIFT plus F10 has the
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same menus as Applications key. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:36 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New Computer Most of the time except in firefox menus. On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:33, Dave Durber <d.durber@gmail.com> wrote:<kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io>I workingthink it is me not the computer. Some of my shortcut keys are not findsuch as Insert F7 for links, or F7 for Spell Check. I cannot seem to luckthe application key where in the past it has always been two keys to the trying to search these issues online. Any help would be greatly
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Re: New Computer
Chris Hill
Most of the time except in firefox menus.
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On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:33, Dave Durber <d.durber@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Jaws and Very Large PDF documents
Sharon
QRead Handles huge files. Sharon
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of LAZZARI Ruth
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 11:10 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Jaws and Very Large PDF documents
Good Morning,
I am trying to assist a tax accountant who uses Jaws 2018 and Adobe Reader Pro 11 . She is often give pdf files that are up to 1000 pages to read and extract pages as necessary! While Jaws reads as normal for smaller documents, less than 500, at 1000+ we only get a Document Empty message. We know that the document has been OCR’d, in fact when we extract a page from the large document it works well. We have: 1. Tested this with NVDA as well as the Adobe Read Out Loud. We receive the same message. 2. Tried all of the Adobe reading settings, e.g. process one page at a time, read from left to right, raw stream, etc. 3. Ran Accessibility Checker which indicated that it indeed it is not an image 4. Checked the Adobe security settings, which indicates no protection at all. 5. Behaves the exact same way in Adobe Reader versus Pro.
I cannot test this document in Jaws 2019 because they are confidential tax documents, and at this time she does not have Jaws 2019 installed. (We are working on that now.)
If anyone has any ideas at all, we would truly appreciate it.
Thanks so much!
Ruth Lazzari, Assistive Technology Specialist Oregon Commission for the Blind
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Re: Jaws and Very Large PDF documents
Chris Hill
Go to the source and get a different format.
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On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:10, LAZZARI Ruth <ruth.lazzari@...> wrote:
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Re: New Computer
Dave Durber
Pressing SHIFT+F10, is the same as pressing the Applications key.
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From: "Kimber Gardner" <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:55 PM Subject: Re: New Computer Just guessing here, but there may not be an application key at all. I
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Re: Evaluating laptop keyboards for jaws functionality
Soronel Haetir
While I find an applications key incredibly nice I can get around
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that, doing without the numpad would be much more troublesome. A full-size regular US qwerty keyboard (but without function specific keys like volume up/down) has 102 or 103 keys.
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Re: New Computer
Van Lant, Robin
And the Shift F10 combo on an HP sometimes requires the FN key as well ans sometimes not. That's probably my biggest issue with my HP laptop at home is sometimes the FN key is required and sometimes not. I often accidentally turn on airplane mode when trying to use JAWS F12 to check the time. I really do need to go get the bios changed.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:30 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New Computer in case it's not too late, on a laptop, the use of a missing application key is usually achieved by pressing shift+f10. -------- Original Message -------- From: Kimber Gardner [mailto:kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, Nov 8, 2018 7:55 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: New Computer Just guessing here, but there may not be an application key at all. I just bought a laptop that doesn't have one and it's going back to the seller. As for the function keys, they may be set to perform hardware functions rather than the application specific functions you would expect. I'm not sure how you would change that on an HP laptop. But you can get the app specific function by holding down the FN key while pressing the function keys. I hope this helps. On 11/8/18, Angie Goodnight <agoodnight@abilitycenter.org> wrote: Good morning all, I recently bought a new HP Laptop. I am having a couple of problems but I think it is me not the computer. Some of my shortcut keys are not working such as Insert F7 for links, or F7 for Spell Check. I cannot seem to find the application key where in the past it has always been two keys to the right of the space bar. I have my keyboard set to laptop. I have had no luck trying to search these issues online. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Kind Regards, Angie Goodnight This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: Evaluating laptop keyboards for jaws functionality
I evaluate it by going to a computer store and putting my hands on it. This is one situation where ordering online can just be a less satisfying experience.
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Also, you mentioned you bought a 13 inch model, anything less than a 15 inch laptop will never have as complete a keyboard just because it's not large enough. There are plenty of 15 inch laptops out there which have full keyboards including a numeric pad. My Asus Zenbook has an application key, but I'm so used to pressing Shift+F10 that I rarely use it.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:56 AM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Evaluating laptop keyboards for jaws functionality Hi All, How do jaws users evaluate a keyboard on a laptop you are considering? I'm talking about the presence (or absence) of keys that are necessary to the functionality of jaws commands. I received a new Lenovo Ideapad and was dismayed to realize that the keyboard is missing not only the applications key but also the dedicated home, end, page up and page down keys. Strangely, my old Lenovo, the one I am typing this message on, has all these keys so it never occurred to me to try and verify that the new one would also. But now I'm wondering, how do you check the keyboard specs when ordering a new laptop that you haven't actually had your hands on? Before someone suggests an external keyboard let me say that I require the portability of a laptop that doesn't necessitate dragging around an extra keyboard. I also don't really want to remap a bunch of keys to accomplish everyday functions. So what do people suggest? Do I really have to drag myself over to microcenter or some other store so I can actually touch the laptop I'm considering? Is there another way? Thanks for your thoughts. Kim -- Kimberly
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Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?
Hi Ron,
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I beg to differ, for the US to call themselves America that is to me no problem, after all, we call them "Americans" not US'ers" or "United Statelers" and Also, if you feel they should include Canada in America because we are part of North America then how about all the countries of central amd South America, that is still America or the American continent. Furthermore, there are plenty of places overseas where English is the primary language, e.g. England, Australia, New Zealand. Let's just let them figure it out, I'm sure if a subscription-based model is what Vispero wants to move to it will be offered here in Canada and elsewhere in due time.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 7:48 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only? Hi Nick and all, In the US they love to identify themselves as America which is far from being correct. If they want to call themselves America, let them include all of North America. If they don't want to go overseas with this, due to language problems, that is their business but they should at least include all of North America in at least English which is the international language of computers. Ron & Danvers -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 9:21 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only? Hi all I sent a message to FS support asking why the new Jaws yearly subscription plan is for US customers only, but I haven’t received any reply yet. Your thoughts on this? As I see it, they are basically saying that us users outside the US don’t really require a more affordable way to purchase Jaws and that they are only giving this more affordable option to people in the US. I’m also wondering what for example will stop me from simply using a friends US address when signing up for this plan. I doubt they’ll be monitoring where a user is located while using it, I think the only important thing to them is the address at sign up. Nick
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