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Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Bill White
 

It could be used, but I don't usually see much difference between this, and "Infer reading order from document." I think that "Read document from left to right" is usually the default of "Infer reading order from document".

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

I saved the pdf and pressed enter on it, but I didn't have to switch to
“Read from raw print stream”. the setting was already set to “infer
reading order from document”, I just waited until processing was
finished and didn't have any problems reading it with JAWS.

I did find out that the formatting is screwed up a bit, like in the
table of contents, it is a 2 column table but the first column for each
row is blank. the actual chapters/topics and pages are in the second
column. and there might be other formatting glitches I haven't found.

Bill, when would the “Read document
from left to right” setting be used?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 22, 2018 12:03 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

I found out about it when reviewing the options before a document is
processed. It has “infer reading order from document”, Read document
from left to right, top to bottom” and “Read from raw print stream”.

Usually, I look at the options in programs, and experiment to see which
give the result that is closest to what I want.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Norton
*Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2018 8:55 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Hi:

That’s great! I changed that option and JFW loaded it right up, faster
than before.

How did you find out about that option?

Thanks!

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@...>
*Sent: *Friday, September 21, 2018 1:44 PM
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

It will get stuck, unless you switch to “Read raw print stream”.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Norton
*Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2018 10:42 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Hi:

Thanks a lot.

JFW seems to get stuck at 79 per cent.

Thanks again!

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Bill White
*Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2018 1:40 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Hi, Joseph. I have written you privately and put the pdf document you
wanted in Microsoft Word, docx format. Please let me know if you would
prefer the document in another format.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Norton
*Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2018 10:26 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Thanks, I’ll give that a look.

The document is pretty straight forward, but, Adobe freezes in the
middle of processing—maybe that’s actually JFW freezing. Maybe Adobe is
just fine with it.

However, NVDA doesn’t like it either.

Just in case anyone wants to look at it, it’s an eBook on using FreeDOS.

The file is at:

http://www.freedos.org/ebook/download/using-freedos-24.pdf

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *JM Casey
*Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2018 12:12 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Acrobat is always kind of sluggish.

If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general
(iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little
programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because
it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has.
It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward,
linear text.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Joseph
Norton
*Sent:* September 21, 2018 11:42 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Hi listers:

Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s. For some reason,
whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very
sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive. Is this becoming a problem? If
so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?

Thanks!


Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Mario
 

I saved the pdf and pressed enter on it, but I didn't have to switch to
“Read from raw print stream”. the setting was already set to “infer
reading order from document”, I just waited until processing was
finished and didn't have any problems reading it with JAWS.

I did find out that the formatting is screwed up a bit, like in the
table of contents, it is a 2 column table but the first column for each
row is blank. the actual chapters/topics and pages are in the second
column. and there might be other formatting glitches I haven't found.

Bill, when would the “Read document
from left to right” setting be used?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 22, 2018 12:03 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

I found out about it when reviewing the options before a document is
processed. It has “infer reading order from document”, Read document
from left to right, top to bottom” and “Read from raw print stream”.

Usually, I look at the options in programs, and experiment to see which
give the result that is closest to what I want.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Norton
*Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2018 8:55 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Hi:

That’s great!  I changed that option and JFW loaded it right up, faster
than before.

How did you find out about that option?

Thanks!

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@...>
*Sent: *Friday, September 21, 2018 1:44 PM
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

It will get stuck, unless you switch to “Read raw print stream”.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Norton
*Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2018 10:42 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Hi:

Thanks a lot.

JFW seems to get stuck at 79 per cent.

Thanks again!

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Bill White
*Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2018 1:40 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Hi, Joseph. I have written you privately and put the pdf document you
wanted in Microsoft Word, docx format. Please let me know if you would
prefer the document in another format.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Norton
*Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2018 10:26 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Thanks, I’ll give that a look.

The document is pretty straight forward, but, Adobe freezes in the
middle of processing—maybe that’s actually JFW freezing.  Maybe Adobe is
just fine with it.

However, NVDA doesn’t like it either.

Just in case anyone wants to look at it, it’s an eBook on using FreeDOS.

The file is at:

http://www.freedos.org/ebook/download/using-freedos-24.pdf

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *JM Casey
*Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2018 12:12 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Acrobat is always kind of sluggish.

If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general
(iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little
programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because
it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has.
It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward,
linear text.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Joseph
Norton
*Sent:* September 21, 2018 11:42 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Hi listers:

Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s.  For some reason,
whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very
sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive.  Is this becoming a problem?  If
so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?

Thanks!


Re: JAWS not speaking on Win 10 start-up screen

 

I have turned off showing the lock screen in GPEdit (this requires Windows 10 Professional) on my laptop and on 4 PC's at my business and all of them now boot directly to the screen where I am prompted to enter my password, i.e. when Jaws starts speaking I am already in the password field or, in the case of my laptop, in the field to enter my PIN.
You mentioned you also did this so I am not sure why it doesn't work. You also mentioned doing something to the registry so maybe it interferes?
If you have Windows 10 Professional, follow these steps:
1. Press the Windows key and type GPEdit followed by enter to bring up the group policy editor.
2. Type "A" to go to Administrative Templates or arrow down to it and expand it with the right arrow
3. Arrow down once to Control Panel and again press right arrow to expand it
4. Arrow down once to Personalization and press tab to get into the list of options.
5. Arrow down 3 times to "Do Not display the lock screen", it will most likely say "Not Configured".
6. Press enter and tab twice past "previous Setting" and "Next Setting" to the "Not Configured" radio button, arrow to "Enable" and then press tab 4 times until you get to the "OK" button and activate it.
7. Close the Group Policy Editor with Alt+F4, reboot your computer and see if it worked.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 3:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS not speaking on Win 10 start-up screen

Hi Ed,

JAWS will never speak on that screen.

By the way, it's not just escape, any key will take you to the login screen.

I disabled it ages ago, but can't remember how I did it.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green pSent: 22 September 2018 10:30
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS not speaking on Win 10 start-up screen

Hi all,

I'm running the JAWS 2019 beta on an HP Spectre laptop using the April
update of Windows 10.

When my PC starts up, a screen comes up showing different wallpapers. To get
to the username and password field, I have to press escape.

JAWS won't speak on that wallpaper screen regardless of how long I leave it
there, but does when I press escape and the log on screen shows. I have JAWS
set to speak at the log on screen.

Does anyone know how to get JAWS to speak on that first start-up screen, or
even better, turn off that screen? I had thought that this screen was the
lock screen, and followed instructions online to create a registry key in
the hopes of disabling it. I also went into personalisation settings and
turned off the lock screen at log on, but still no joy.

I'd be grateful for any suggestions.

Thanks,

Ed


Re: Gmail Web Interface - Quick Location of a Button

Dave Durber
 


Hello Brian:
 
I use CTRL+F to find the settings drop down menu when using the GMail web site all the time.
 
Sincerely:
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: Gmail Web Interface - Quick Location of a Button

Thanks Bill.  I'll give that a try.

I do not understand why a CTRL + F (a straight browser find) would be able to locate that button when a JAWS Find (INS + CTRL + F) does not.  I generally encourage my clients to go with a JAWS Find first as it's been my general experience that it will find objects with label text (whether visible or not) as well as straight webpage text.  

I'm not doubting what you say, but I could swear we did a JAWS Find on just the word "Settings" this afternoon and kept getting the "not found" dialog.  Why?  That makes no sense if a straight browser find can find something.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: JAWS not speaking on Win 10 start-up screen

Edward Green
 

Thanks Steve, I'll have another rootle around or failing that, get Microsoft Accessibility to turn it off.

It's interesting that JAWS won't speak on that screen, NVDA does.

Cheers,

Ed

On 22 Sep 2018, at 11:36, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

Hi Ed,

JAWS will never speak on that screen.

By the way, it's not just escape, any key will take you to the login screen.

I disabled it ages ago, but can't remember how I did it.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 22 September 2018 10:30
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS not speaking on Win 10 start-up screen

Hi all,

I'm running the JAWS 2019 beta on an HP Spectre laptop using the April
update of Windows 10.

When my PC starts up, a screen comes up showing different wallpapers. To get
to the username and password field, I have to press escape.

JAWS won't speak on that wallpaper screen regardless of how long I leave it
there, but does when I press escape and the log on screen shows. I have JAWS
set to speak at the log on screen.

Does anyone know how to get JAWS to speak on that first start-up screen, or
even better, turn off that screen? I had thought that this screen was the
lock screen, and followed instructions online to create a registry key in
the hopes of disabling it. I also went into personalisation settings and
turned off the lock screen at log on, but still no joy.

I'd be grateful for any suggestions.

Thanks,

Ed









Re: JAWS not speaking on Win 10 start-up screen

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Ed,

JAWS will never speak on that screen.

By the way, it's not just escape, any key will take you to the login screen.

I disabled it ages ago, but can't remember how I did it.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 22 September 2018 10:30
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS not speaking on Win 10 start-up screen

Hi all,

I'm running the JAWS 2019 beta on an HP Spectre laptop using the April
update of Windows 10.

When my PC starts up, a screen comes up showing different wallpapers. To get
to the username and password field, I have to press escape.

JAWS won't speak on that wallpaper screen regardless of how long I leave it
there, but does when I press escape and the log on screen shows. I have JAWS
set to speak at the log on screen.

Does anyone know how to get JAWS to speak on that first start-up screen, or
even better, turn off that screen? I had thought that this screen was the
lock screen, and followed instructions online to create a registry key in
the hopes of disabling it. I also went into personalisation settings and
turned off the lock screen at log on, but still no joy.

I'd be grateful for any suggestions.

Thanks,

Ed


Re: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders

Steve Nutt
 

It would, but I don’t like doing that, in case that text comes up in something you’re reading.  It would be completely ignored.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 21 September 2018 19:53
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders

 

Hi Cristóbal & Steve,

 

What if you put the phrase,

 

List box Connectivity to your server. Connected

 

Into the Jaws dictionary Add / Actual word field and put a space into the Replacement word field.  This would mute Jaws of saying that text.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:00 AM

Subject: Re: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders

 

No, it won’t help, I’m on Highlighted and it still does it.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 20 September 2018 23:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders

 

Hi Cristóbal,

 

One thought is maybe your screen echo has changed.  While in Outlook press, Jaws key + S, to tobble through settings.  They are Highlighted, All, & None.  It sounds like it might be set on, All, so switch it to, Highlighted, and see if that helps.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Cristóbal

Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:42 AM

Subject: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders

 

Hello list,

I’ve been having this issue for a while now. I can’t recall when it started, but regardless, it happens every single time  I switch folders in Outlook 2016. Be it a main inbox or subfolder, etc.

I get the below message every time I switch folders.

List box Connectivity to your server. Connected

I don’t need to be informed that I’m connected all the time. Any ideas on how to stop this?

I’ve got 6 email accounts configured with a mixture of imap and exchange. This will occur regardless if I switch to an imap folder.

Anyway, I’m on Jaws 2018 and recently started to play with the JFW 2019 beta. This exact same behavior is occurring in the beta so I know at this point it’s not just my JFW 2018 version. I’m sure it has to do with a setting I’m not aware of or have perhaps by accident enabled.

Thanks,

Cristóbal


JAWS not speaking on Win 10 start-up screen

Edward Green
 

Hi all,

I'm running the JAWS 2019 beta on an HP Spectre laptop using the April update of Windows 10.

When my PC starts up, a screen comes up showing different wallpapers. To get to the username and password field, I have to press escape.

JAWS won't speak on that wallpaper screen regardless of how long I leave it there, but does when I press escape and the log on screen shows. I have JAWS set to speak at the log on screen.

Does anyone know how to get JAWS to speak on that first start-up screen, or even better, turn off that screen? I had thought that this screen was the lock screen, and followed instructions online to create a registry key in the hopes of disabling it. I also went into personalisation settings and turned off the lock screen at log on, but still no joy.

I'd be grateful for any suggestions.

Thanks,

Ed


Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Joseph Norton
 

All right.

Again I appreciate all the help that you gave me on this.

Sometimes it doesn’t pay to just assume that following the default options is the best thing.

I will remember this tip.

Thanks again.


On Sep 22, 2018, at 12:03 AM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

I found out about it when reviewing the options before a document is processed. It has “infer reading order from document”, Read document from left to right, top to bottom” and “Read from raw print stream”.

 

Usually, I look at the options in programs, and experiment to see which give the result that is closest to what I want.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 8:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi:

 

That’s great!  I changed that option and JFW loaded it right up, faster than before.

 

How did you find out about that option?

 

Thanks!

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

It will get stuck, unless you switch to “Read raw print stream”.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi:

 

Thanks a lot.

 

JFW seems to get stuck at 79 per cent.

 

Thanks again!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi, Joseph. I have written you privately and put the pdf document you wanted in Microsoft Word, docx format. Please let me know if you would prefer the document in another format.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Thanks, I’ll give that a look.

 

The document is pretty straight forward, but, Adobe freezes in the middle of processing—maybe that’s actually JFW freezing.  Maybe Adobe is just fine with it.

 

However, NVDA doesn’t like it either.

 

Just in case anyone wants to look at it, it’s an eBook on using FreeDOS.

 

The file is at:

 

http://www.freedos.org/ebook/download/using-freedos-24.pdf

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 12:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Acrobat is always kind of sluggish.

If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: September 21, 2018 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi listers:

 

Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s.  For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive.  Is this becoming a problem?  If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?

 

Thanks!

 


Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Bill White
 

I found out about it when reviewing the options before a document is processed. It has “infer reading order from document”, Read document from left to right, top to bottom” and “Read from raw print stream”.

 

Usually, I look at the options in programs, and experiment to see which give the result that is closest to what I want.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 8:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi:

 

That’s great!  I changed that option and JFW loaded it right up, faster than before.

 

How did you find out about that option?

 

Thanks!

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

It will get stuck, unless you switch to “Read raw print stream”.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi:

 

Thanks a lot.

 

JFW seems to get stuck at 79 per cent.

 

Thanks again!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi, Joseph. I have written you privately and put the pdf document you wanted in Microsoft Word, docx format. Please let me know if you would prefer the document in another format.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Thanks, I’ll give that a look.

 

The document is pretty straight forward, but, Adobe freezes in the middle of processing—maybe that’s actually JFW freezing.  Maybe Adobe is just fine with it.

 

However, NVDA doesn’t like it either.

 

Just in case anyone wants to look at it, it’s an eBook on using FreeDOS.

 

The file is at:

 

http://www.freedos.org/ebook/download/using-freedos-24.pdf

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 12:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Acrobat is always kind of sluggish.

If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: September 21, 2018 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi listers:

 

Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s.  For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive.  Is this becoming a problem?  If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?

 

Thanks!

 


Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Joseph Norton
 

Hi:

 

That’s great!  I changed that option and JFW loaded it right up, faster than before.

 

How did you find out about that option?

 

Thanks!

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

It will get stuck, unless you switch to “Read raw print stream”.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi:

 

Thanks a lot.

 

JFW seems to get stuck at 79 per cent.

 

Thanks again!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi, Joseph. I have written you privately and put the pdf document you wanted in Microsoft Word, docx format. Please let me know if you would prefer the document in another format.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Thanks, I’ll give that a look.

 

The document is pretty straight forward, but, Adobe freezes in the middle of processing—maybe that’s actually JFW freezing.  Maybe Adobe is just fine with it.

 

However, NVDA doesn’t like it either.

 

Just in case anyone wants to look at it, it’s an eBook on using FreeDOS.

 

The file is at:

 

http://www.freedos.org/ebook/download/using-freedos-24.pdf

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 12:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Acrobat is always kind of sluggish.

If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: September 21, 2018 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi listers:

 

Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s.  For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive.  Is this becoming a problem?  If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?

 

Thanks!

 


Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Jason White
 

I’ve found that the PDF viewer included in Google Chrome works well with screen readers.

 

If the document is a scanned image, then I run ABBYY FineReader on it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi, Joseph. I submitted a bug report to Adobe about Acrobat Reader DC and this document. The problem occurs not only with JAWS, but also using Narrator in Windows 10, without JAWS loaded.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi listers:

 

Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s.  For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive.  Is this becoming a problem?  If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?

 

Thanks!


Re: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders

Cristóbal
 

Hi Mike,

Yes, I know that this is an option, but I’m generally not a fan of this approach. It doesn’t really address the issue

Thanks anyway,.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 11:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders

 

Hi Cristóbal & Steve,

 

What if you put the phrase,

 

List box Connectivity to your server. Connected

 

Into the Jaws dictionary Add / Actual word field and put a space into the Replacement word field.  This would mute Jaws of saying that text.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:00 AM

Subject: Re: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders

 

No, it won’t help, I’m on Highlighted and it still does it.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 20 September 2018 23:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders

 

Hi Cristóbal,

 

One thought is maybe your screen echo has changed.  While in Outlook press, Jaws key + S, to tobble through settings.  They are Highlighted, All, & None.  It sounds like it might be set on, All, so switch it to, Highlighted, and see if that helps.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Cristóbal

Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:42 AM

Subject: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders

 

Hello list,

I’ve been having this issue for a while now. I can’t recall when it started, but regardless, it happens every single time  I switch folders in Outlook 2016. Be it a main inbox or subfolder, etc.

I get the below message every time I switch folders.

List box Connectivity to your server. Connected

I don’t need to be informed that I’m connected all the time. Any ideas on how to stop this?

I’ve got 6 email accounts configured with a mixture of imap and exchange. This will occur regardless if I switch to an imap folder.

Anyway, I’m on Jaws 2018 and recently started to play with the JFW 2019 beta. This exact same behavior is occurring in the beta so I know at this point it’s not just my JFW 2018 version. I’m sure it has to do with a setting I’m not aware of or have perhaps by accident enabled.

Thanks,

Cristóbal


Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Bill White
 

Hi, Joseph. I submitted a bug report to Adobe about Acrobat Reader DC and this document. The problem occurs not only with JAWS, but also using Narrator in Windows 10, without JAWS loaded.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi listers:

 

Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s.  For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive.  Is this becoming a problem?  If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?

 

Thanks!


Re: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi Cristóbal & Steve,
 
What if you put the phrase,
 

List box Connectivity to your server. Connected

 

Into the Jaws dictionary Add / Actual word field and put a space into the Replacement word field.  This would mute Jaws of saying that text.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders

No, it won’t help, I’m on Highlighted and it still does it.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 20 September 2018 23:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders

 

Hi Cristóbal,

 

One thought is maybe your screen echo has changed.  While in Outlook press, Jaws key + S, to tobble through settings.  They are Highlighted, All, & None.  It sounds like it might be set on, All, so switch it to, Highlighted, and see if that helps.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Cristóbal

Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:42 AM

Subject: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders

 

Hello list,

I’ve been having this issue for a while now. I can’t recall when it started, but regardless, it happens every single time  I switch folders in Outlook 2016. Be it a main inbox or subfolder, etc.

I get the below message every time I switch folders.

List box Connectivity to your server. Connected

I don’t need to be informed that I’m connected all the time. Any ideas on how to stop this?

I’ve got 6 email accounts configured with a mixture of imap and exchange. This will occur regardless if I switch to an imap folder.

Anyway, I’m on Jaws 2018 and recently started to play with the JFW 2019 beta. This exact same behavior is occurring in the beta so I know at this point it’s not just my JFW 2018 version. I’m sure it has to do with a setting I’m not aware of or have perhaps by accident enabled.

Thanks,

Cristóbal


Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Bill White
 

It will get stuck, unless you switch to “Read raw print stream”.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi:

 

Thanks a lot.

 

JFW seems to get stuck at 79 per cent.

 

Thanks again!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi, Joseph. I have written you privately and put the pdf document you wanted in Microsoft Word, docx format. Please let me know if you would prefer the document in another format.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Thanks, I’ll give that a look.

 

The document is pretty straight forward, but, Adobe freezes in the middle of processing—maybe that’s actually JFW freezing.  Maybe Adobe is just fine with it.

 

However, NVDA doesn’t like it either.

 

Just in case anyone wants to look at it, it’s an eBook on using FreeDOS.

 

The file is at:

 

http://www.freedos.org/ebook/download/using-freedos-24.pdf

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 12:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Acrobat is always kind of sluggish.

If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: September 21, 2018 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi listers:

 

Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s.  For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive.  Is this becoming a problem?  If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?

 

Thanks!


Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Joseph Norton
 

Hi:

 

Thanks a lot.

 

JFW seems to get stuck at 79 per cent.

 

Thanks again!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi, Joseph. I have written you privately and put the pdf document you wanted in Microsoft Word, docx format. Please let me know if you would prefer the document in another format.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Thanks, I’ll give that a look.

 

The document is pretty straight forward, but, Adobe freezes in the middle of processing—maybe that’s actually JFW freezing.  Maybe Adobe is just fine with it.

 

However, NVDA doesn’t like it either.

 

Just in case anyone wants to look at it, it’s an eBook on using FreeDOS.

 

The file is at:

 

http://www.freedos.org/ebook/download/using-freedos-24.pdf

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 12:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Acrobat is always kind of sluggish.

If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: September 21, 2018 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi listers:

 

Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s.  For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive.  Is this becoming a problem?  If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?

 

Thanks!


Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Bill White
 

Hi, Joseph. I have written you privately and put the pdf document you wanted in Microsoft Word, docx format. Please let me know if you would prefer the document in another format.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Thanks, I’ll give that a look.

 

The document is pretty straight forward, but, Adobe freezes in the middle of processing—maybe that’s actually JFW freezing.  Maybe Adobe is just fine with it.

 

However, NVDA doesn’t like it either.

 

Just in case anyone wants to look at it, it’s an eBook on using FreeDOS.

 

The file is at:

 

http://www.freedos.org/ebook/download/using-freedos-24.pdf

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 12:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Acrobat is always kind of sluggish.

If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: September 21, 2018 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi listers:

 

Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s.  For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive.  Is this becoming a problem?  If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?

 

Thanks!


Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Sharon
 

What about QRead?

I love that program, though I do not have it on the computer that has the newest JAWS version.

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Thanks, I’ll give that a look.

 

The document is pretty straight forward, but, Adobe freezes in the middle of processing—maybe that’s actually JFW freezing.  Maybe Adobe is just fine with it.

 

However, NVDA doesn’t like it either.

 

Just in case anyone wants to look at it, it’s an eBook on using FreeDOS.

 

The file is at:

 

http://www.freedos.org/ebook/download/using-freedos-24.pdf

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 12:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Acrobat is always kind of sluggish.

If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: September 21, 2018 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi listers:

 

Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s.  For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive.  Is this becoming a problem?  If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?

 

Thanks!


Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Joseph Norton
 

Thanks, I’ll give that a look.

 

The document is pretty straight forward, but, Adobe freezes in the middle of processing—maybe that’s actually JFW freezing.  Maybe Adobe is just fine with it.

 

However, NVDA doesn’t like it either.

 

Just in case anyone wants to look at it, it’s an eBook on using FreeDOS.

 

The file is at:

 

http://www.freedos.org/ebook/download/using-freedos-24.pdf

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 12:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Acrobat is always kind of sluggish.

If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: September 21, 2018 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi listers:

 

Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s.  For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive.  Is this becoming a problem?  If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?

 

Thanks!