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Re: New Computer
Van Lant, Robin
And the Shift F10 combo on an HP sometimes requires the FN key as well ans sometimes not. That's probably my biggest issue with my HP laptop at home is sometimes the FN key is required and sometimes not. I often accidentally turn on airplane mode when trying to use JAWS F12 to check the time. I really do need to go get the bios changed.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:30 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New Computer in case it's not too late, on a laptop, the use of a missing application key is usually achieved by pressing shift+f10. -------- Original Message -------- From: Kimber Gardner [mailto:kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, Nov 8, 2018 7:55 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: New Computer Just guessing here, but there may not be an application key at all. I just bought a laptop that doesn't have one and it's going back to the seller. As for the function keys, they may be set to perform hardware functions rather than the application specific functions you would expect. I'm not sure how you would change that on an HP laptop. But you can get the app specific function by holding down the FN key while pressing the function keys. I hope this helps. On 11/8/18, Angie Goodnight <agoodnight@abilitycenter.org> wrote: Good morning all, I recently bought a new HP Laptop. I am having a couple of problems but I think it is me not the computer. Some of my shortcut keys are not working such as Insert F7 for links, or F7 for Spell Check. I cannot seem to find the application key where in the past it has always been two keys to the right of the space bar. I have my keyboard set to laptop. I have had no luck trying to search these issues online. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Kind Regards, Angie Goodnight This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: Evaluating laptop keyboards for jaws functionality
I evaluate it by going to a computer store and putting my hands on it. This is one situation where ordering online can just be a less satisfying experience.
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Also, you mentioned you bought a 13 inch model, anything less than a 15 inch laptop will never have as complete a keyboard just because it's not large enough. There are plenty of 15 inch laptops out there which have full keyboards including a numeric pad. My Asus Zenbook has an application key, but I'm so used to pressing Shift+F10 that I rarely use it.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:56 AM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Evaluating laptop keyboards for jaws functionality Hi All, How do jaws users evaluate a keyboard on a laptop you are considering? I'm talking about the presence (or absence) of keys that are necessary to the functionality of jaws commands. I received a new Lenovo Ideapad and was dismayed to realize that the keyboard is missing not only the applications key but also the dedicated home, end, page up and page down keys. Strangely, my old Lenovo, the one I am typing this message on, has all these keys so it never occurred to me to try and verify that the new one would also. But now I'm wondering, how do you check the keyboard specs when ordering a new laptop that you haven't actually had your hands on? Before someone suggests an external keyboard let me say that I require the portability of a laptop that doesn't necessitate dragging around an extra keyboard. I also don't really want to remap a bunch of keys to accomplish everyday functions. So what do people suggest? Do I really have to drag myself over to microcenter or some other store so I can actually touch the laptop I'm considering? Is there another way? Thanks for your thoughts. Kim -- Kimberly
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Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?
Hi Ron,
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I beg to differ, for the US to call themselves America that is to me no problem, after all, we call them "Americans" not US'ers" or "United Statelers" and Also, if you feel they should include Canada in America because we are part of North America then how about all the countries of central amd South America, that is still America or the American continent. Furthermore, there are plenty of places overseas where English is the primary language, e.g. England, Australia, New Zealand. Let's just let them figure it out, I'm sure if a subscription-based model is what Vispero wants to move to it will be offered here in Canada and elsewhere in due time.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 7:48 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only? Hi Nick and all, In the US they love to identify themselves as America which is far from being correct. If they want to call themselves America, let them include all of North America. If they don't want to go overseas with this, due to language problems, that is their business but they should at least include all of North America in at least English which is the international language of computers. Ron & Danvers -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 9:21 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only? Hi all I sent a message to FS support asking why the new Jaws yearly subscription plan is for US customers only, but I haven’t received any reply yet. Your thoughts on this? As I see it, they are basically saying that us users outside the US don’t really require a more affordable way to purchase Jaws and that they are only giving this more affordable option to people in the US. I’m also wondering what for example will stop me from simply using a friends US address when signing up for this plan. I doubt they’ll be monitoring where a user is located while using it, I think the only important thing to them is the address at sign up. Nick
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Re: New Computer
HP "Action Keys" can only be toggled on or off via UEFI. It requires sighted assistance.
As the owner of three HP laptops of recent vintage I know of whence speak. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 If you remove all the homosexuals and homosexual influences from what is generally regarded as American culture, you are pretty much left with Let's Make a Deal. ~ Fran Lebowitz
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Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?
Exactly, it is new so obviously they will do it first where it is easiest for them which is in their home country.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 7:29 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only? Eric Damery claims that this new subscription plan would be available outside the US sometime next year. Gerald -----Original Message----- From: Nickus de Vos Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 9:21 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only? Hi all I sent a message to FS support asking why the new Jaws yearly subscription plan is for US customers only, but I haven’t received any reply yet. Your thoughts on this? As I see it, they are basically saying that us users outside the US don’t really require a more affordable way to purchase Jaws and that they are only giving this more affordable option to people in the US. I’m also wondering what for example will stop me from simply using a friends US address when signing up for this plan. I doubt they’ll be monitoring where a user is located while using it, I think the only important thing to them is the address at sign up. Nick
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Re: New Computer
Why don't you go where you bought it and ask them to make sure the function keys are enabled, as others pointed out it most likely is set up by default so you have to press the FN together with whatever function key combination, e.g. Jaws Key+FN+F7 would give you your list of links. As for the application key that is just not there on many laptops and even desktop keyboards, just use Shift+F10, it does the same thing.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Angie Goodnight
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 4:14 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: New Computer
Good morning all, I recently bought a new HP Laptop. I am having a couple of problems but I think it is me not the computer. Some of my shortcut keys are not working such as Insert F7 for links, or F7 for Spell Check. I cannot seem to find the application key where in the past it has always been two keys to the right of the space bar. I have my keyboard set to laptop. I have had no luck trying to search these issues online. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Kind Regards, Angie Goodnight
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Jaws and Very Large PDF documents
LAZZARI Ruth
Good Morning,
I am trying to assist a tax accountant who uses Jaws 2018 and Adobe Reader Pro 11 . She is often give pdf files that are up to 1000 pages to read and extract pages as necessary! While Jaws reads as normal for smaller documents, less than 500, at 1000+
we only get a Document Empty message. We know that the document has been OCR’d, in fact when we extract a page from the large document it works well. We have:
I cannot test this document in Jaws 2019 because they are confidential tax documents, and at this time she does not have Jaws 2019 installed. (We are working on that now.)
If anyone has any ideas at all, we would truly appreciate it.
Thanks so much!
Ruth Lazzari, Assistive Technology Specialist
Oregon Commission for the Blind
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Re: New Computer
Kimber Gardner
Thanks, but I think I am still going to go for a different laptop. It
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looks like if I go for a 15 inch instead of a 13 inch I can get all the keys I want and maybe even save a few dollars.
On 11/8/18, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:
in case it's not too late, on a laptop, the use of a missing application --
Kimberly
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Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?
Ron Pelletier
Hi Nick and all,
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In the US they love to identify themselves as America which is far from being correct. If they want to call themselves America, let them include all of North America. If they don't want to go overseas with this, due to language problems, that is their business but they should at least include all of North America in at least English which is the international language of computers. Ron & Danvers
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 9:21 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only? Hi all I sent a message to FS support asking why the new Jaws yearly subscription plan is for US customers only, but I haven’t received any reply yet. Your thoughts on this? As I see it, they are basically saying that us users outside the US don’t really require a more affordable way to purchase Jaws and that they are only giving this more affordable option to people in the US. I’m also wondering what for example will stop me from simply using a friends US address when signing up for this plan. I doubt they’ll be monitoring where a user is located while using it, I think the only important thing to them is the address at sign up. Nick
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Re: J2019 & Edge starting automatically--in conflict?
Bill White
I believe that the only way Microsoft Edge will start automatically is if you have an account and password set up within Microsoft Edge. Even if this is the case, and Microsoft Edge starts automatically, this should not conflict with JAWS starting at login.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 7:04 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: J2019 & Edge starting automatically--in conflict?
Listers: Running J2019 and W10 ver 1803.
Earlier I posted a message about some problems I was having with J2019 right after automatically loading at start up.
Recently, after an W1803 update, Edge has been loading automatically at start up. Could this create a conflict which would cause problems for J2019 loading properly?
Also, how does one stop Edge loading automatically?
Stan
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Re: New Computer
Mario
in case it's not too late, on a laptop, the use of a missing application
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key is usually achieved by pressing shift+f10.
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From: Kimber Gardner [mailto:kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, Nov 8, 2018 7:55 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: New Computer Just guessing here, but there may not be an application key at all. I just bought a laptop that doesn't have one and it's going back to the seller. As for the function keys, they may be set to perform hardware functions rather than the application specific functions you would expect. I'm not sure how you would change that on an HP laptop. But you can get the app specific function by holding down the FN key while pressing the function keys. I hope this helps. On 11/8/18, Angie Goodnight <agoodnight@abilitycenter.org> wrote: Good morning all, I recently bought a new HP Laptop. I am having a couple of problems but I think it is me not the computer. Some of my shortcut keys are not working such as Insert F7 for links, or F7 for Spell Check. I cannot seem to find the application key where in the past it has always been two keys to the right of the space bar. I have my keyboard set to laptop. I have had no luck trying to search these issues online. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Kind Regards, Angie Goodnight
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Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?
Gerald Levy
Eric Damery claims that this new subscription plan would be available outside the US sometime next year.
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Gerald
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From: Nickus de Vos Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 9:21 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only? Hi all I sent a message to FS support asking why the new Jaws yearly subscription plan is for US customers only, but I haven’t received any reply yet. Your thoughts on this? As I see it, they are basically saying that us users outside the US don’t really require a more affordable way to purchase Jaws and that they are only giving this more affordable option to people in the US. I’m also wondering what for example will stop me from simply using a friends US address when signing up for this plan. I doubt they’ll be monitoring where a user is located while using it, I think the only important thing to them is the address at sign up. Nick
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Re: Office 2016 changeing a password on an account
Matthew Horspool
Hi Nino, Simple answer is I don't know! However, if Outlook is unable to log into an account, it ought to pop up a password box at that point. So my advice would be to go ahead and change the password of the account itself and then let Outlook fail to log in next time you start it up. Matthew
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: 08 November 2018 14:09 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Office 2016 changeing a password on an account
How do you change an account on an email account using Outlook 2016.
I have tried and tried andits time to see if someone knows thanks in advance.
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Re: 2019 not fully functional after boot up
Matthew Horspool
Hi Stan, I saw this sort of behaviour early in the beta cycle for 2019. Not sure what the problem was as I could never get to the bottom of it either, but it got fixed for me before the official release. Matthew
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: 07 November 2018 13:00 To: jfw@groups.io Subject: 2019 not fully functional after boot up
Listers: With W 10, v.1803 and J2019.
I have jaws set to start up automatically at log in page and after log in.
After boot up in the morning, j2019 opens fine but will not recognize headings, form fields and other elements. It will read a text field. I have tried task switching and page reload, but these do not help. After unloading jaws and reloading it everything works great.
If later in the day, I sign out and back in all works fine.
Any suggestions?
Stan
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Re: Jaws 2019 dowload trouble
Matthew Horspool
Hello David, Have you tried downloading the full offline installer from the following URL? https://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/OfflineInstallers#jaws Usually the installer has to download components as part of the installation process and perhaps this is what is triggering your security software. The offline installer is significantly larger (over 500 MB) but all of the components are included, so no downloading needs to happen on the fly. Matthew
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Pearson Sent: 06 November 2018 21:05 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws 2019 dowload trouble
Hello group:
Vispero f/k/n FS says that my Avast anti-virus program is interfering with my attempt to download, and run the 2019 Jaws, and they recommend removing/uninstalling it.
What anti-virus program are most list users using, and how did you acquire it?
Sincerely,
David Pearson
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J2019 & Edge starting automatically--in conflict?
Stan Holdeman
Listers: Running J2019 and W10 ver 1803.
Earlier I posted a message about some problems I was having with J2019 right after automatically loading at start up.
Recently, after an W1803 update, Edge has been loading automatically at start up. Could this create a conflict which would cause problems for J2019 loading properly?
Also, how does one stop Edge loading automatically?
Stan
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Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?
Matthew Horspool
Sorry everyone, didn't realise this was a bug.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Fettgather Sent: 06 November 2018 21:28 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it? This is a bug in Jaws 2019, I have already submitted feedback about this particularly annoying behavior. On 11/6/18, Alan Robbins via Groups.Io <alan1057=me.com@groups.io> wrote: I believe so, that is what I usually doOn Nov 6, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Richard B. McDonald
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Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?
Cristóbal
Probably has to do with issues such as licensing, distributor ships, all sorts of legalities and any sort of Country specific requirements for e-commerce. Patience grasshopper. I’m sure they’ll eventually roll it out internationally as these things get resolved.
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O Nov 8, 2018, at 6:21 AM, Nickus de Vos <nickus.zr6jn@gmail.com> wrote:
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New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?
Nickus de Vos
Hi all
I sent a message to FS support asking why the new Jaws yearly subscription plan is for US customers only, but I haven’t received any reply yet. Your thoughts on this? As I see it, they are basically saying that us users outside the US don’t really require a more affordable way to purchase Jaws and that they are only giving this more affordable option to people in the US. I’m also wondering what for example will stop me from simply using a friends US address when signing up for this plan. I doubt they’ll be monitoring where a user is located while using it, I think the only important thing to them is the address at sign up. Nick
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Office 2016 changeing a password on an account
Nino Dagostino
How do you change an account on an email account using Outlook 2016.
I have tried and tried andits time to see if someone knows thanks in advance.
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