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moderated Re: Blocked shut down

Richard Turner
 


Thanks Dan but I cannot get to the shut down anyway button. Jaws just goes silently into the ether.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
 

On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Hi Richard,

  I get this on occasion and is either caused by JAWS or a Microsoft office product or a combination of both.  I just tab to the “Shut down” anyway setting and hit enter.  All seems to be well.  At times it has been helpful if I have forgotten to save a document that I am working on and the blocked shutdown has allowed me to go back, save the work, and then shut down. 

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down

 

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.

 

Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 


moderated Re: Blocked shut down

Dan Longmore
 

Hi Richard,

  I get this on occasion and is either caused by JAWS or a Microsoft office product or a combination of both.  I just tab to the “Shut down” anyway setting and hit enter.  All seems to be well.  At times it has been helpful if I have forgotten to save a document that I am working on and the blocked shutdown has allowed me to go back, save the work, and then shut down. 

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down

 

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.

 

Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 


moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

Richard Turner
 

Are you talking about using the run command?
Unloading jaws, loading Narrator and doing a standard shut down or restart seems easier until I find out why the ---- this is happening.
Richard


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com

On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:

Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart
shutdown -r -f -t 0

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,


Richard

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(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.

Don

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

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(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote:

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988096526&amp;sdata=gDC5Q24fsuYFrSnlN3CMyrHecnqtfta2ae6l1ZH%2F2kg%3D&amp;reserved=0

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How do
you spend it?

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moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

John Covici
 

Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart
shutdown -r -f -t 0

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com


On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.

Don

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C833a8252ca914f3f170208d7017e141d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979513317811062&amp;sdata=jezuQQSGWwvaSffPFenxjM0Jz%2F50JEOTahHOlKp9O88%3D&amp;reserved=0


On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote:

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C833a8252ca914f3f170208d7017e141d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979513317811062&amp;sdata=jezuQQSGWwvaSffPFenxjM0Jz%2F50JEOTahHOlKp9O88%3D&amp;reserved=0

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59













--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Placing Bookmark File on Desktop for Browser Use

dennis
 

i use ie to make bookmarks on the desktop. then i use waterfox as my defalt brouser and they open that way. the same would be for krome or firefox.

On 7/5/2019 2:13 PM, Barbara wrote:

Hello David,

 

I like your idea below.  I have been using both Firefox and Internet Explorer.  I recently installed Chrome.  I placed on my desktop a link to the Internet Explorer Favorites list folder.  So now I can use this same list for both of the browsers.  However when I tried to use this with Chrome, it did not work.  I got garbage for web results.  Do I need to change the Favorites file format for Chrome?  Is there a specific method I must use to access the desktop folder? Some other ideas?

 

I am using a Windows 7 computer.

 

Thanks.

 

Barbara

Home of the 2019 Stanley Cup Champion St. Louis Blues

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of David Kingsbury

<davidkingsbury77@...>

Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 3:18 PM

To:  main@jfw.groups.io

Subject:   Re: bookmarks chrome RE: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

Hello,

There is a nice and easy way to deal with bookmarks in Chrome, favorites in IE, etc. Personally,

I think that accessing and managing bookmarks in Chrome in Firefox is very clunky. By

contrast, it is extremely easy to access and manage favorites in IE.

 

If you create a desktop shortcut for your favorites folder, you can open the favorites in whatever

browser you have chosen as your default. I have Chrome as my default browser, maintain all my

favorites in IE, and open them from the desktop with Chrome. I make no effort to maintain

bookmarks in Chrome or Firefox, And in Windows 10, it is very easy to change your default

browser via the Control Panel.

 

Regards,

David

 

 

--
Dennis Cornelison

Virus-free. www.avast.com


moderated Re: Blocked shut down

Richard Turner
 

Thanks Keith,
But since Jaws was the only thing running, I'm going to, when I am not quite so frustrated, uninstall all FS products and reinstall.
Something is royally messed up with Jaws.
This is not the only issue.
Later,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com

On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:44 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io <kramlinger.keith=mayo.edu@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Richard,

I've had some similar experiences.

The only way I found around it was to clear everything except JAWS from the taskbar, and then shutdown seems to work for me after that.

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Blocked shut down


I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc69c0529ad1341a1e20508d70178de4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979490943116282&amp;sdata=fjqan%2F44AQA3xA%2BDf5YlrRMHRG3t5jmRGvX5hHEE6RI%3D&amp;reserved=0


On Jul 5, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:

Hi, sometimes I get that "Block shutdown" message. tabbing takes me through
the open items MS suggests I close. More tabbbing takes me to a "shutdown
anyway" option. Enter on that and your shutdown should proceed.

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go
to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can
do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with
no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc69c0529ad1341a1e20508d70178de4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979490943116282&amp;sdata=fjqan%2F44AQA3xA%2BDf5YlrRMHRG3t5jmRGvX5hHEE6RI%3D&amp;reserved=0 <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc69c0529ad1341a1e20508d70178de4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979490943126290&amp;sdata=wSuIiCd8lUWvVkSEDyStUNJBy2I2THh9%2BPLb%2B4lRtvA%3D&amp;reserved=0>

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flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59












moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

Richard Turner
 

Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com

On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.

Don

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C833a8252ca914f3f170208d7017e141d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979513317811062&amp;sdata=jezuQQSGWwvaSffPFenxjM0Jz%2F50JEOTahHOlKp9O88%3D&amp;reserved=0


On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote:

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C833a8252ca914f3f170208d7017e141d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979513317811062&amp;sdata=jezuQQSGWwvaSffPFenxjM0Jz%2F50JEOTahHOlKp9O88%3D&amp;reserved=0

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moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

Don Walls
 

Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com


On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote:

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C787d4d9a17954552176608d70175d866%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979477956414541&amp;sdata=A5mz60GwsAgfDp6Lku%2FXQx9hUqXg%2B%2FOaYprmw6JAQUg%3D&amp;reserved=0

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moderated Placing Bookmark File on Desktop for Browser Use

Barbara <batterseye@...>
 

Hello David,

 

I like your idea below.  I have been using both Firefox and Internet Explorer.  I recently installed Chrome.  I placed on my desktop a link to the Internet Explorer Favorites list folder.  So now I can use this same list for both of the browsers.  However when I tried to use this with Chrome, it did not work.  I got garbage for web results.  Do I need to change the Favorites file format for Chrome?  Is there a specific method I must use to access the desktop folder? Some other ideas?

 

I am using a Windows 7 computer.

 

Thanks.

 

Barbara

Home of the 2019 Stanley Cup Champion St. Louis Blues

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of David Kingsbury

<davidkingsbury77@...>

Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 3:18 PM

To:  main@jfw.groups.io

Subject:   Re: bookmarks chrome RE: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

Hello,

There is a nice and easy way to deal with bookmarks in Chrome, favorites in IE, etc. Personally,

I think that accessing and managing bookmarks in Chrome in Firefox is very clunky. By

contrast, it is extremely easy to access and manage favorites in IE.

 

If you create a desktop shortcut for your favorites folder, you can open the favorites in whatever

browser you have chosen as your default. I have Chrome as my default browser, maintain all my

favorites in IE, and open them from the desktop with Chrome. I make no effort to maintain

bookmarks in Chrome or Firefox, And in Windows 10, it is very easy to change your default

browser via the Control Panel.

 

Regards,

David

 

 


moderated Re: Blocked shut down

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Hi Richard,

I've had some similar experiences.

The only way I found around it was to clear everything except JAWS from the taskbar, and then shutdown seems to work for me after that.

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Blocked shut down


I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com


On Jul 5, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:

Hi, sometimes I get that "Block shutdown" message. tabbing takes me through
the open items MS suggests I close. More tabbbing takes me to a "shutdown
anyway" option. Enter on that and your shutdown should proceed.

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go
to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can
do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with
no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C91a5356ab08b40c3356908d701720f42%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979461698502362&amp;sdata=mOQfhViNS4qqRB5kNXTDNDFW2rdRzzgg5X59fnOKru0%3D&amp;reserved=0 <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C91a5356ab08b40c3356908d701720f42%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979461698502362&amp;sdata=xV8WxyRZ9gLKcXwGRRWw1nMcIs%2FfAuXQWhAoX7Qewrw%3D&amp;reserved=0>

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59








moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

Richard Turner
 

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

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On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote:

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
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All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





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moderated Re: Blocked shut down

Richard Turner
 

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com

On Jul 5, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:

Hi, sometimes I get that "Block shutdown" message. tabbing takes me through
the open items MS suggests I close. More tabbbing takes me to a "shutdown
anyway" option. Enter on that and your shutdown should proceed.

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go
to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can
do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with
no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





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flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59








moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

Maria Campbell
 

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59







moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

netbat66
 

try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


moderated Re: Blocked shut down

Onwardbob
 

Hi, sometimes I get that "Block shutdown" message. tabbing takes me through
the open items MS suggests I close. More tabbbing takes me to a "shutdown
anyway" option. Enter on that and your shutdown should proceed.

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go
to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can
do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with
no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com>

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


moderated Blocked shut down

Richard Turner
 

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.

 

Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 


moderated Blocked shutdown

Richard Turner
 

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.

 

Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 


moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

 

Hi Mario,

I asked about this again on the Jaws Beta list and also asked if somebody from Vispero could comment. If I get an answer regarding this on Windows 7 I'll let you know, but as I said, there really should be any need for this and I am not entirely sure if it wouldn't do more harm than good.
I Also asked about why in some cases the ToogleScreenCapture is not in the keyboard manager and will provide the answer once I have it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

thanks Sieghard.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@live.ca]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, July 5, 2019, 11:01 AM
Subject: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

You can potentially turn off the accessibility display driver in Jaws 2018, but I am not sure if it would do much good and certainly I don't think you would have the option to set a keyboard shortcut. The keyboard shortcut was introduced in Jaws 2019 in the last few months.
Also, you should not turn off the accessibility display driver if you use Windows 7, not sure why this option is even there, but in Windows 7 the new method for Jaws to obtain information from Windows is of no concern, it only became necessary in Windows 10 for Vispero to look at a new way to get this information. This is why you often can't read anything with the Jaws cursor in Windows 10 where this worked perfectly fine in Windows 7.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 7:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Mike, I'm using JAWS 2018 in Windows 7, and following you're directions, there is no Toggle Screen Capture entry in the Default keymap.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol via Groups.Io
[mailto:ofiol=verizon.net@groups.io]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Thursday, July 4, 2019, 4:34 PM
Subject: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

At 02:15 AM 7/3/2019, netbat66 wrote:
>I found where it is with windows 7 but it is not in windows 10
>its in the settings center in miscilanious

Mike B. posted instructions to assign a keystroke to the accessibility
driver. However, using JAWS 2019 on Windows 10 1903, my list of default
keyboard commands does not include anything like "toggle screen capture
method" or "toggle accessibility driver". What might I be missing?

Orlando Enrique Fiol



.


moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Mario
 

thanks Sieghard.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@live.ca]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, July 5, 2019, 11:01 AM
Subject: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

You can potentially turn off the accessibility display driver in Jaws
2018, but I am not sure if it would do much good and certainly I don't
think you would have the option to set a keyboard shortcut. The keyboard
shortcut was introduced in Jaws 2019 in the last few months.
Also, you should not turn off the accessibility display driver if you
use Windows 7, not sure why this option is even there, but in Windows 7
the new method for Jaws to obtain information from Windows is of no
concern, it only became necessary in Windows 10 for Vispero to look at a
new way to get this information. This is why you often can't read
anything with the Jaws cursor in Windows 10 where this worked perfectly
fine in Windows 7.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 7:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Mike, I'm using JAWS 2018 in Windows 7, and following you're directions,
there is no Toggle Screen Capture entry in the Default keymap.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol via Groups.Io
[mailto:ofiol=verizon.net@groups.io]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Thursday, July 4, 2019, 4:34 PM
Subject: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

At 02:15 AM 7/3/2019, netbat66 wrote:
>I found where it is with windows 7 but it is not in windows 10
>its in the settings center in miscilanious

Mike B. posted instructions to assign a keystroke to the accessibility
driver. However, using JAWS 2019 on Windows 10 1903, my list of default
keyboard commands does not include anything like "toggle screen capture
method" or "toggle accessibility driver". What might I be missing?

Orlando Enrique Fiol



.


moderated Re: trading on e-trade

mike mcglashon
 

right now to view and option chain I have to go to MarketWatch or Yahoo finance.
Apparently to go get the probabilities of full profit and loss on E*TRADE there’s an option to click her but you only you can only click on it with a mouse.
I haven’t figured out how to view the change themselves on the E*TRADE platform.
However we probably want to go off list with this because now we might be getting into stuff that is in jars anymore.


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Email: michael.mcglashon@...


On Jul 5, 2019, at 8:13 AM, Michael Baldwin <mbaldwin577@...> wrote:

I use ETrade for stock and options. No major issues for me. The one thing that bugs the heck out of me is I have to delete the word "symbol" before putting in my ticker to get a quote on. They have also changed some formatting recently so I can no longer press "t" to get to the top of the quote. In Chrome on the order screen for either stock or options, i have to re-enter all the information, but in IE I don't, but it runs a lot slower loading the order screen for some reason.


The options chain can be viewed on a few different pages, how are  you viewing it?

Michael

On 7/2/2019 2:55 PM, mike mcglashon wrote:

Hey guys:

 

Is there anyone on this list who trades stocks and/or options with e-trade using jaws?

 

I currently trade on that platform, and,

I find the stock order sheets good but the options chains don’t seem to read with jaws, meaning,

I cannot hit enter on the options chain, a mouse click seems to only do;

 

Any tricks or tips will be most appreciated.

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331