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From: Joseph Norton

To: jfw@groups.io

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 10:57 AM

Subject: SMA vs. subscription pricing model

Hi listers:

 

You know, I just took a calculator and compared what it would cost for a home user who was buying JAWS brand new, and keeping an SMA up-to-date, comparing that to the new subscription model.

 

So, if you buy JAWS new, for $900, then, you've got to pay $120 per 2 year period to keep the SMA up-to-date.  Comparing that to $90 per year, from what I can tell, it will take about 27 years before you end up paying more per year for the subscription than you would for keeping an SMA up-to-date.

 

And, will we be using JAWS in 27 years?

 

Cheers!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Some people have been using  JAWS for nearly that long if not more.  I guess I can understand newbies getting the license rather than the whole program, but the rest of us are better off with the SMA, until it, too gets nixed.

Maria Campbell

lucky1inct@...

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Hi listers:

 

You know, I just took a calculator and compared what it would cost for a home user who was buying JAWS brand new, and keeping an SMA up-to-date, comparing that to the new subscription model.

 

So, if you buy JAWS new, for $900, then, you've got to pay $120 per 2 year period to keep the SMA up-to-date.  Comparing that to $90 per year, from what I can tell, it will take about 27 years before you end up paying more per year for the subscription than you would for keeping an SMA up-to-date.

 

And, will we be using JAWS in 27 years?

 

Cheers!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Hi listers:

 

You know, I just took a calculator and compared what it would cost for a home user who was buying JAWS brand new, and keeping an SMA up-to-date, comparing that to the new subscription model.

 

So, if you buy JAWS new, for $900, then, you've got to pay $120 per 2 year period to keep the SMA up-to-date.  Comparing that to $90 per year, from what I can tell, it will take about 27 years before you end up paying more per year for the subscription than you would for keeping an SMA up-to-date.

 

And, will we be using JAWS in 27 years?

 

Cheers!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Hi listers:

You know, I just took a calculator and compared what it would cost for a home user who was buying JAWS brand new, and keeping an SMA up-to-date, comparing that to the new subscription model.

So, if you buy JAWS new, for $900, then, you've got to pay $120 per 2 year period to keep the SMA up-to-date.  Comparing that to $90 per year, from what I can tell, it will take about 27 years before you end up paying more per year for the subscription than you would for keeping an SMA up-to-date.

And, will we be using JAWS in 27 years?

Cheers!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

You press JAWS key plus V to enter Quick Settings.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 12:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements

And where is that done? I just searched for "virtual cursor" in Settings
and didn't get any hits that sound anything like that.

On 11/9/2018 12:08 PM, Bill White wrote:

Just make sure that, if you're using JAWS, that your Virtual Cursor is set to copy Full Screen Content, NOT Copy From Virtual Cursor. Copy from Virtual Cursor will give you only the text. It will not preserve formatting.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 8:34 AM
To: JFW
Subject: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements

I frequently receive email messages with portions of Web pages copied
thereinto, complete with all elements--links, headings, other
controls--faithfully preserved, but I've plum forgotten how. Someone
please refresh my obviously in-need-of-refreshing memory cells, with my
grateful thanks in advance.

Hi Maria!

I found exactly the same, and ended up selling mine to the guy next door.

Now i've got an Acer laptop, and so far, have found it very accessible.


Val.

On 09/11/2018 19:00, Maria Campbell wrote:

Are any of you using Lenovo laptops?  I don't find the Lenovo settings very accessible with JAWS.  Heck I can't even turn on the LV tool and wonder if I should.

Yes, it is annoying, but I just ignore it as well. It goes away quickly. I’ve never used it, so I don’t know if it even works. I bookmark anything I want to resume reading.

Cheerfully,
Shirley



Shirley Tracy

From: <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 8:25 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I make the "pane" with the "resume reading" button go awayin MS Word 2016?

I just wait a moment and it goes away. I figured that was a "new feature" that is a tiny bit annoying since I usually don't want to resume reading. I have not checked to see if it is something to uncheck.
Have you googled it?
Richard


"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

On Nov 10, 2018, at 2:14 AM, Richard B. McDonald <<mailto:richardbmcdonald@gmail.com>richardbmcdonald@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi!

In MS Word 2016 using JAWS 2019, when I open a document I can hear two “panesâ€&#65533; opening. As I F6 around, I hear when I go to the “document paneâ€&#65533; (which I want) and also “paneâ€&#65533; which has a button labeled “resume reading.â€&#65533; I want to disable this latter pane with the “resume readingâ€&#65533; button. In this particular document, it happens to have numerous headings and a few heading levels; so perhaps Word thinks it is some sort of an eBook that I am reading? Whatever the case may be, how can I disable this?

Thanks,
Richard

The simplest way to check is to hit windows-r and type in winver.

Mine, for example, says version 1803, which is the April 2018 version.  I'll bet a new computer from the store would have this version.  If that is what your friend has, she probably should be talking to Freedom Scientific to see if her version of jaws will actually work with it.

I don’t know and I will ask her tomorrow !! If she does not know ,how can she find out ?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 9:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: For a friend New desktop computer window 10 Jaws 17

 

Well, my first question would be, which version of windows 10, it is changing about twice a year.  My second question would be, does a jaws 17 work on that new of a windows 10.  I suspect an upgrade  of jaws will be needed to fix the problem.

 

 

 

On 11/9/2018 18:28, O.Addison Gethers wrote:

Hello All My friend told me she have a new desktop computer with window 10 and using jaws 17 !! She received jaws 17 disc from FS  she installed and download from disc then she noticed when she finish install jaws 17 then it’s ask her to press spacebar to restart computer then jaws never came back on !! She press window r type jaws17 it came on few second it cut off  again  !! Does anyone know why this happening to jaws 17 ?

 

 

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I just wait a moment and it goes away. I figured that was a "new feature" that is a tiny bit annoying since I usually don't want to resume reading. I have not checked to see if it is something to uncheck.

Hi!

 

In MS Word 2016 using JAWS 2019, when I open a document I can hear two “panes” opening.  As I F6 around, I hear when I go to the “document pane” (which I want) and also “pane” which has a button labeled “resume reading.”  I want to disable this latter pane with the “resume reading” button. In this particular document, it happens to have numerous headings and a few heading levels; so perhaps Word thinks it is some sort of an eBook that I am reading?  Whatever the case may be, how can I disable this?

 

Thanks,

Richard

Hi:

I would say if you have 6 gigs of ram or more, you’ll probably be ok.  Anything less then 6 or even 8 may not be a good idea.

I have Windows 10 running on a Dell Laptop that came with Windows 8 originally and it is working, but, with a little hesitation.

Since I put an SSD in it, it flies, compared to what it used to do.

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I have a refurbished computer that it was estimated ran windows 7 originally, now running windows 10. It does work, however, you could make and drink your coffee by the time JAWS loads up. It started with JAWS 18.  I now have a Mac Book pro that was built around 012.  It was converted to a windows 10 computer and it runs a lot faster. That is just my thoughts, yes a windows 7 can be upgraded to 10, you just might get frustrated with the slowness of the performance.     

I'm running Windows 10 on older machines--2012 older anyway--and it works just fine. I haven't had one single problem since upgrading in February, 2017.

Hi,

 

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

 

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

 

Using the latest JAWS.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

I don’t know and I will ask her tomorrow !! If she does not know ,how can she find out ?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 9:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: For a friend New desktop computer window 10 Jaws 17

 

Well, my first question would be, which version of windows 10, it is changing about twice a year.  My second question would be, does a jaws 17 work on that new of a windows 10.  I suspect an upgrade  of jaws will be needed to fix the problem.

 

 

 

On 11/9/2018 18:28, O.Addison Gethers wrote:

Hello All My friend told me she have a new desktop computer with window 10 and using jaws 17 !! She received jaws 17 disc from FS  she installed and download from disc then she noticed when she finish install jaws 17 then it’s ask her to press spacebar to restart computer then jaws never came back on !! She press window r type jaws17 it came on few second it cut off  again  !! Does anyone know why this happening to jaws 17 ?

 

 

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Bill:

In step 3, when I press Alt O for other settings, nothing happens.

What am I missing?

Thanks Bill and everyone for your patience.

Tom Behler

Hi, Tom. To turn off auto preview,

1. Open Outlook.

2. Press ALT plus V, followed by V.

3. Press ALT plus O for Other Settings.

4. TAB until you see a setting that reads:

Auto Preview Off, and make sure it is checked.

5. TAB to OK and press ENTER.

6. If necessary, TAB again to OK, and press ENTER.

Now Auto Preview should be turned off.

I just went into Jaws quick settings, and couldn’t find an option to disable phoenetics.

Am I not going to the right place?

Tom Behler

The phonetic thing is actually a new feature. It’s meant to help out folks who may have hearing issues or would like a little more help with distinguishing between letters. This feature is also present in the iOS platform.

You can go into Jaws settings and adjust the delay for when the phonetic pronunciation is spoken or disable it all together.

The other thing, I have no idea.

Hello, again, everyone.

I have discovered two more problems with Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 on my Windows 7 laptop.

When I use the insert numpad 2 command to read an entire message, Jaws skips parts of lines.  I can read the complete lines by arrowing down through the message, but, as you can imagine, this gets quite cumbersome.

In addition, I have noticed that Jaws now gives phonetics for the first letter of a word when I navigate through a message that I’m composing, and I also notice that Jaws sometimes speaks the last character I type again after several seconds.

I seem to recall someone else having similar issues but am not sure how or whether they got resolved.

Thanks for any assistance.

Tom Behler

Hi, Tom. To turn off auto preview,

1. Open Outlook.

2. Press ALT plus V, followed by V.

3. Press ALT plus O for Other Settings.

4. TAB until you see a setting that reads:

Auto Preview Off, and make sure it is checked.

5. TAB to OK and press ENTER.

6. If necessary, TAB again to OK, and press ENTER.

Now Auto Preview should be turned off.

I just went into Jaws quick settings, and couldn’t find an option to disable phoenetics.

Am I not going to the right place?

Tom Behler

The phonetic thing is actually a new feature. It’s meant to help out folks who may have hearing issues or would like a little more help with distinguishing between letters. This feature is also present in the iOS platform.

You can go into Jaws settings and adjust the delay for when the phonetic pronunciation is spoken or disable it all together.

The other thing, I have no idea.

Hello, again, everyone.

I have discovered two more problems with Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 on my Windows 7 laptop.

When I use the insert numpad 2 command to read an entire message, Jaws skips parts of lines.  I can read the complete lines by arrowing down through the message, but, as you can imagine, this gets quite cumbersome.

In addition, I have noticed that Jaws now gives phonetics for the first letter of a word when I navigate through a message that I’m composing, and I also notice that Jaws sometimes speaks the last character I type again after several seconds.

I seem to recall someone else having similar issues but am not sure how or whether they got resolved.

Thanks for any assistance.

Tom Behler

I have a refurbished computer that it was estimated ran windows 7 originally, now running windows 10. It does work, however, you could make and drink your coffee by the time JAWS loads up. It started with JAWS 18.  I now have a Mac Book pro that was built around 012.  It was converted to a windows 10 computer and it runs a lot faster. That is just my thoughts, yes a windows 7 can be upgraded to 10, you just might get frustrated with the slowness of the performance.     

I'm running Windows 10 on older machines--2012 older anyway--and it works just fine. I haven't had one single problem since upgrading in February, 2017.

Hi,

 

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

 

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

 

Using the latest JAWS.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

Are any of you using Lenovo laptops?  I don't find the Lenovo settings very accessible with JAWS.  Heck I can't even turn on the LV tool and wonder if I should.

Well, my first question would be, which version of windows 10, it is changing about twice a year.  My second question would be, does a jaws 17 work on that new of a windows 10.  I suspect an upgrade  of jaws will be needed to fix the problem.

Hello All My friend told me she have a new desktop computer with window 10 and using jaws 17 !! She received jaws 17 disc from FS  she installed and download from disc then she noticed when she finish install jaws 17 then it’s ask her to press spacebar to restart computer then jaws never came back on !! She press window r type jaws17 it came on few second it cut off  again  !! Does anyone know why this happening to jaws 17 ?

 

 

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