Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client
Hope Williamson <isepic@...>
Thunderbird, or you could always use the windows mail app.
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Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client
Steve Matzura
Thunderbird.
On 11/13/2018 12:45 PM, Sameer wrote:
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Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client
I constantly forget that Groups.io does not support BBCode. Here's the click through link as it should have been in the last message:
Windows Essentials 2012 Installer - Includes Windows Live Mail 2012, in ZIP format -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client
I, too, would recommend Outlook or Thunderbird, and with the recent advent of the legal sale of recycled Office 2016 licenses you can get Office 2016, including Outlook 2016 if you make sure to buy Office 2016 Pro or Pro Plus, for a song on eBay.
That being said, I have WLM 2012 installed on multiple Windows 10 systems, up through and including Version 1809, and have never had an issue. I downloaded the Windows Essentials 2012 full standalone installer about 7 days before it was pulled from the Microsoft download pages. It's on my Google Drive here: [URL=https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B98uELZbPFnOSF8xTzhfYnh4WUU]Windows Essentials 2012 Installer - Includes Windows Live Mail 2012, in ZIP format[/URL]. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: fb freezing
Larry Gassman
Hi,
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Some of the freezing probably is in part due to the fact that you are runningWindows 8.1 with newer technology that continues to evolve. If possible, I'd upgrade to Windows 10. Larry
At 02:26 PM 11/13/2018, you wrote:
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Re: fb freezing
Shan Noyes
Got your message
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On Nov 13, 2018, at 4:26 PM, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@...> wrote:
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Re: fb freezing
Cristóbal
Have you tried accessing m.facebook.com with another browser? Perhaps with NVDA? How about the regular Facebook site? Same results? Is your browser up to date. I’ve visited the mobile FB site today via Chrome and Firefox and have had no issues. Cristóbal
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:26 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: fb freezing
Dear list, Not sure if my messages are going through so trying this one more time. I’m using Jaws 2018 latest build with windows 8.1 and firefox. For some reason the mobile facebook site freezes up numerous times a day while I am on it. This is the only site I’ve encountered the freezing up and have no idea why it’s happening. When it freezes, the only way I can seem to move forward is to restart the computer. Anyone else have any problems with the mobile facebook using the same configuration as me? Any help is appriciated. thanksDrew Hunthausen The No Excuses Blind Guy #1 Blind and Hearing Impaired Motivational Speaker, Triathlete, & International Best Selling Author
Get my free guide, The Five Keys To Living A No Excuses Life Filled With Joy, Peace, and Prosperity!
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fb freezing
Drew Hunthausen
Dear list, Not sure if my messages are going through so trying this one more time. I’m using Jaws 2018 latest build with windows 8.1 and firefox. For some reason the mobile facebook site freezes up numerous times a day while I am on it. This is the only site I’ve encountered the freezing up and have no idea why it’s happening. When it freezes, the only way I can seem to move forward is to restart the computer. Anyone else have any problems with the mobile facebook using the same configuration as me? Any help is appriciated. thanksDrew Hunthausen The No Excuses Blind Guy #1 Blind and Hearing Impaired Motivational Speaker, Triathlete, & International Best Selling Author
Get my free guide, The Five Keys To Living A No Excuses Life Filled With Joy, Peace, and Prosperity!
To book Drew for your event go to (714) 296-7111
With an Attitude of Gratitude and no excuses, The Best Is Yet To Come!
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Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client
Dan Longmore
Hi, Mail, the Windows 10 app has limited JAWS useage but for a best client I would recommend Outlook , Thunderbird as others have suggested.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sameer
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 12:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client
Dear List friends,
I was previously using Windows Live Mail 2012 with Windows 7 to check my emails. Now I have upgraded to Windows 10 & found that Windows Live Mail will not install on Windows 10.
I request you to kindly suggest me a basic JAWS-friendly email client which I can use to check my emails & which is compatible with Windows 10.
Thanking you all in advance for your kind assistance. Regards Mr. Sameer Latey, Mumbai, India
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Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client
Ed Legge <edward.legge@...>
Outlook.\
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sameer
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 11:45 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client
Dear List friends,
I was previously using Windows Live Mail 2012 with Windows 7 to check my emails. Now I have upgraded to Windows 10 & found that Windows Live Mail will not install on Windows 10.
I request you to kindly suggest me a basic JAWS-friendly email client which I can use to check my emails & which is compatible with Windows 10.
Thanking you all in advance for your kind assistance. Regards Mr. Sameer Latey, Mumbai, India
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Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client
Mario
try Thunderbird.
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From: Sameer [mailto:salatey@gmail.com] Sent: Tue, Nov 13, 2018 12:45 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client Dear List friends, I was previously using Windows Live Mail 2012 with Windows 7 to check my emails. Now I have upgraded to Windows 10 & found that Windows Live Mail will not install on Windows 10. I request you to kindly suggest me a basic JAWS-friendly email client which I can use to check my emails & which is compatible with Windows 10. Thanking you all in advance for your kind assistance. Regards Mr. Sameer Latey, Mumbai, India
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Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client
Sameer
Dear List friends,
I was previously using Windows Live Mail 2012 with Windows 7 to check my emails. Now I have upgraded to Windows 10 & found that Windows Live Mail will not install on Windows 10.
I request you to kindly suggest me a basic JAWS-friendly email client which I can use to check my emails & which is compatible with Windows 10.
Thanking you all in advance for your kind assistance. Regards Mr. Sameer Latey, Mumbai, India
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Re: How do I make the "pane" with the "resume reading" button go away in MS Word 2016?
Richard Turner
Hi Richard,
I read the instructions the same as you.
Given the sensitivity of the registry, I do not feel I should be giving advice here. But, I would call Microsoft Accessibility; 800-936-5900.
I was hoping those instructions would just work. It looked like a good resource.
I hope you can get a good solution.
Later,
Richard
"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Nov 13, 2018, at 3:07 AM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:
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Re: How do I make the "pane" with the "resume reading" button go away in MS Word 2016?
Richard B. McDonald
Hi Richard T.,
Despite my previous reply, I got brave and tried the solution in the article you cited below. However, I ran into a conundrum as described next. I am hoping you might be able to help.
Basically, when I go into the permissions>advanced dialog box as instructed in the solution, there is first a list view listing classes of users. In fact, this list view is in both the “permissions” and its sub dialogue box “advanced.” Then, within the “advanced” dialogue box, there is a first check box and then there is a second check box. For the classes of users, I am focused on the one listed there, me; but they all have the same check box configuration. The first check box is checked, and it says “Include inheritable permissions from this object’s parent.” The second check box *is* unchecked, and it says “Replace all child object permission entries with inheritable permission entries from this object.”
Now, my conundrum is that the solution below says that this second check box should be unchecked. Well, it already is. So, I am wondering if the first check box should also be unchecked.
BTW, in the solution it says to go to the “… 15.0 …” HKEY. I am going to the “… 16.0 …” HKEY. I think this is correct; referring to the Office version you have. I have MS Office 16 (i.e., Word 2016); and find this item there and nothing under the “… 15.0 …” HKEY.
Thanks, Richard M.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 8:51 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How do I make the "pane" with the "resume reading" button go away in MS Word 2016?
Hi Richard, I found an article to edit the registry to get rid of the “pick up where you left off” feature. If you are comfortable editing the registry, give this a try. I’d backup the registry first even if you are comfortable doing this.
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/disable-pick-up-where-you-left-off-office
Good luck, Richard T.
“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
I Googled it but found no solution. It is annoying. Perhaps if you are *reading* a document it may be a good thing, as others have pointed out. But, if you are *writing* a document as am I it is not a good thing. There ought to be some sort of a way to terminate this!
The other Richard
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I just wait a moment and it goes away. I figured that was a "new feature" that is a tiny bit annoying since I usually don't want to resume reading. I have not checked to see if it is something to uncheck. Have you googled it? Richard
"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
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Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements
Steve Matzura
No. That's how I found out I'm on 60.3.0. That's all it says.
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On 11/12/2018 10:08 AM, Mario wrote:
when you press insert+b to hear JAWS read the about dialog, do you hear
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Re: track changes (for Word 2016 documents) broken in Jaws 2019?
Richard B. McDonald
I would suggest that you formally report this to the bug fix cue.
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Hopefully, in the update it will get fixed.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Amy Bower Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 7:49 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: track changes (for Word 2016 documents) broken in Jaws 2019? Hi All - Decided to give Jaws 2019 a try because I've been having a weird problem: When replying to an email message in Outlook 2016, the cursor switches to virtual so that when I start typing my reply, it's as if quick keys are on, and for example, "T" tries to find a table instead of typing the letter t.. (if anyone has similar problem and knows how to fix, would love to hear it). But in Jaws 2019, there is something major different in how "track changes" are handled in Word documents. In 2018, with track changes on, Jaws would only read my inserted text, which is what I wanted to hear. Now, Jaws 2019 reads both the inserted and deleted text, which is very confusing to listen to. I've tried various combinations of Word and Jaws settings with no luck. I've tried turning off Track Changes in Jaws settings (no change in behavior). I've tried changing how tracked changes are displayed in Word (no changes in behavior, although I haven't tried every combination). The only thing that might fix it is to turn off track changes in Word (control+shift+e), but that defeats the purpose because I'm trying to track changes as I type. To constantly change this setting between when I want to type and when I want to read my changed text makes no sense. Help? -Amy P.S. Response from vispero was ridiculous. The tech support had very little idea what I was talking about when discussing track changes. When I asked to speak to someone who knows what track changes is and how it works, she said no one there uses track changes so there was no one to talk to. Give me a break. They said I had to send a sample document, which I'll do. Thumbs down on tech support... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr. Amy S. Bower Senior Scientist Department of Physical Oceanography Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Woods Hole, MA 02543 USA v: 508-289-2781 f: 508-457-2181 c: 508-564-3663 e: abower@whoi.edu www: http://www.whoi.edu/scientist/abower ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016
Bill White
No, In Windows 10, it's File Explorer Options, in Control Panel.
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Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 11:56 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 #2 should be Folder options. -------- Original Message -------- From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com] Sent: Mon, Nov 12, 2018 2:12 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 Hi, Kevin. I accidentally left out a couple of steps in my post about turning off Preview Handlers in Preview Pane. I'll repost including the deleted steps. 1. Open Control Panel. 2. Open File Explorer Options, and press ENTER. 3. SHIFT TAB once to the tab categories. 4. Right Arrow once to the View tab. 5. TAB a couple of times to the Advanced tree view. 6. Press the letter S about five times until you hear Show Preview Handlers in Preview Pane. 7. Space until this option is off. 8. TAB to the Apply button, and press ENTER. 9. TAB again to the OK button, and press ENTER. Now the Show Preview Handlers in Preview Pane option will be turned off. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 9:51 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 Hello, Before you pressed alt T were you in windows explorer? If so alt T doesn't do anything. I'm using windows 10 and Jaws2018. Thanks, -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Gassman Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 8:37 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 Tom, I new I had this somewhere. It worked for me. Larry Turning Off Preview Pane in Windows Explorer 1, Got to My computer, 2, alt+t=tools, 3, o=options, 4, shift+tab to general, 5, right arrow to view, 6, tab to the tree-view, 7, press the letter s=Show preview handlers in preview pane-On Press spacebar to set to off, Now tab okay press enter. Larry At 12:39 PM 11/10/2018, you wrote: Yeah, Bill, I have Outlook 2016 here with Office 365. This laptop is a windows 7 laptop. Hopefully, there's another way to turn off the preview pane, so I'll wait to see if someone else has the correct procedure. Tom Behler From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 11:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 I don't know. Maybe these instructions don't work for your version of Outlook. Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>billwhite92701@dslextreme.com From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 7:36 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 Bill: In step 3, when I press Alt O for other settings, nothing happens. What am I missing? Thanks Bill and everyone for your patience. Tom Behler From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 8:36 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 Hi, Tom. To turn off auto preview, 1. Open Outlook. 2. Press ALT plus V, followed by V. 3. Press ALT plus O for Other Settings. 4. TAB until you see a setting that reads: Auto Preview Off, and make sure it is checked. 5. TAB to OK and press ENTER. 6. If necessary, TAB again to OK, and press ENTER. Now Auto Preview should be turned off. Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>billwhite92701@dslextreme.com From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 4:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 I just went into Jaws quick settings, and couldn't find an option to disable phoenetics. Am I not going to the right place? Tom Behler From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 7:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 The phonetic thing is actually a new feature. It's meant to help out folks who may have hearing issues or would like a little more help with distinguishing between letters. This feature is also present in the iOS platform. You can go into Jaws settings and adjust the delay for when the phonetic pronunciation is spoken or disable it all together. The other thing, I have no idea. Cristóbal From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 4:22 PM To: 'jfw list' <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 Hello, again, everyone. I have discovered two more problems with Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 on my Windows 7 laptop. When I use the insert numpad 2 command to read an entire message, Jaws skips parts of lines. I can read the complete lines by arrowing down through the message, but, as you can imagine, this gets quite cumbersome. In addition, I have noticed that Jaws now gives phonetics for the first letter of a word when I navigate through a message that I'm composing, and I also notice that Jaws sometimes speaks the last character I type again after several seconds. I seem to recall someone else having similar issues but am not sure how or whether they got resolved. Thanks for any assistance. Tom Behler .
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Re: JAWS 2019: JAWS often speaks version number when navigating or opening some dialogs
I rarely ever use iE any more, but I just tried it with Jaws 2019 on 4 different websites and not once did Jaws speak it's version when I pressed Jaws Key+F7. Not sure what could be causing this, have you called FS tech support to see if they know anything about this?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brenda Emerson-Alford
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 9:45 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 2019: JAWS often speaks version number when navigating or opening some dialogs
I have noticed the same problem and I am using the latest version of JAWS 2018. In particular when in IE and I hit a JAWS key F7 to open a list of links it says the version of JAWS before saying "Links List Dialogue". I haven't taken time yet to investigate why. Open to ideas to fix this problem/annoyance. Brenda
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
David Goldfield
Hi. I'm using JAWS 2019 on Windows 10 Pro. At times when opening a JAWS dialog I often will hear JAWS announce the full version number of the JAWS program before I hear the prompt of the dialog which I am expecting. This version information is the same information you will hear if you open the JAWS window and press insert+up arrow to read the current line. It does not happen often and so it is very difficult to reproduce. Has anybody else noticed this issue?
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Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?
In Windows 10 as far as I know you can't defrag an SSD, Windows 10 knows if you use an SSD and it will "optimize" it but not defragment it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 5:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?
Sorry, you are half right. You should not run a defrag on an ssd, but chkdsk is basically a read test and it will not hurt an ssd. Have a look at this link: https://askleo.com/should-i-run-chkdsk-on-my-ssd/
On 11/12/2018 05:52, Dave Durber wrote:
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Re: track changes (for Word 2016 documents) broken in Jaws 2019?
Michael Mote
Hi Amy. I can help you with the email question that you have. I experience
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this too from time to time. Whenever it happens, I close my email, and simply highlight the message in the list of messages, and press Control plus the letter R to reply to it. This issue has been happening to me since JAWS 2018 was released. Good luck resolving your track changes problem. Depending on your tech support person, it is really hit or miss. Sorry you got a bad one when you called FS.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Amy Bower Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 10:49 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: track changes (for Word 2016 documents) broken in Jaws 2019? Hi All - Decided to give Jaws 2019 a try because I've been having a weird problem: When replying to an email message in Outlook 2016, the cursor switches to virtual so that when I start typing my reply, it's as if quick keys are on, and for example, "T" tries to find a table instead of typing the letter t.. (if anyone has similar problem and knows how to fix, would love to hear it). But in Jaws 2019, there is something major different in how "track changes" are handled in Word documents. In 2018, with track changes on, Jaws would only read my inserted text, which is what I wanted to hear. Now, Jaws 2019 reads both the inserted and deleted text, which is very confusing to listen to. I've tried various combinations of Word and Jaws settings with no luck. I've tried turning off Track Changes in Jaws settings (no change in behavior). I've tried changing how tracked changes are displayed in Word (no changes in behavior, although I haven't tried every combination). The only thing that might fix it is to turn off track changes in Word (control+shift+e), but that defeats the purpose because I'm trying to track changes as I type. To constantly change this setting between when I want to type and when I want to read my changed text makes no sense. Help? -Amy P.S. Response from vispero was ridiculous. The tech support had very little idea what I was talking about when discussing track changes. When I asked to speak to someone who knows what track changes is and how it works, she said no one there uses track changes so there was no one to talk to. Give me a break. They said I had to send a sample document, which I'll do. Thumbs down on tech support... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr. Amy S. Bower Senior Scientist Department of Physical Oceanography Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Woods Hole, MA 02543 USA v: 508-289-2781 f: 508-457-2181 c: 508-564-3663 e: abower@whoi.edu www: http://www.whoi.edu/scientist/abower ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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