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Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements
Steve Matzura
I thought there was some checkbox I needed to check or uncheck to go beyond the ESR version.
On 11/12/2018 9:17 AM, Richard Turner
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Re: "From" and "To" Not Spoken When Making a Large Selection in JAWS 2019 with MS Word 2016
Richard Turner
What method are you using to make your selection? I’m not sure I ever had Jaws say anything about from and to, but I’ve only really been using Jaws since version 18, for a few months, then 2018 and now 2019. Richard
“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 3:44 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: "From" and "To" Not Spoken When Making a Large Selection in JAWS 2019 with MS Word 2016
Hi!
In JAWS 2019 using MS Word 2016, when I make a large selection it does not say a short phrase of the “from” and “to” of the selection. For example, if I selected an entire paragraph that started with “See spot run” and ended with “ball is blue,” these phrases used to be spoken as the “from” and “to” selection along with the total number of characters within the selection. In earlier versions of MS Word and JAWS, this behavior was consistent, but not any longer in JAWS 2019 with MS Word 2016.
Is anyone else noticing this? Has, or should, this been reported to the JAWS bug fix cue?
Thanks, Richard
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Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements
Richard Turner
You need the installer for the non-ESR version. The ESR version will only update within that version. I guess it is called Quantum?
Richard
“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Steve Matzura
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 6:03 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements
Now thereby hangs another tale. Everybody tells me the latest FF is 63 something. Mine says 60.3.0, and no matter how many times I try to update it, I am told my Firefox is up to date. On 11/11/2018 11:55 AM, Bill White wrote:
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Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements
Steve Matzura
JAWS 2018.1808.10 Windows 10, 1803, build 17134.345 Firefox 60.3.0
On 11/11/2018 1:21 PM, Mike B. wrote:
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Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements
Steve Matzura
Ah-hah, 60.3.0 is an ESR? Interesting.OK then, I must have to do something to tell my FF to get off that ESR version and move on. What do I have to do to effect this change?
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On 11/11/2018 1:44 PM, Mario wrote:
I am using JAWS2018 with Firefox ESR Version 60.3.0 but also have the
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Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements
Steve Matzura
Now thereby hangs another tale. Everybody tells me the latest FF
is 63 something. Mine says 60.3.0, and no matter how many times I
try to update it, I am told my Firefox is up to date.
On 11/11/2018 11:55 AM, Bill White
wrote:
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Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?
Chris Hill
Sorry, you are half right. You should not run a defrag on an ssd, but chkdsk is basically a read test and it will not hurt an ssd. Have a look at this link: https://askleo.com/should-i-run-chkdsk-on-my-ssd/ CH
On 11/12/2018 05:52, Dave Durber wrote:
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Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?
Dave Durber
Helloo Chris:
Do not run CHKDSK nor, Disk Defrragmenter on a
solid state hard drive.
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"From" and "To" Not Spoken When Making a Large Selection in JAWS 2019 with MS Word 2016
Richard B. McDonald
Hi!
In JAWS 2019 using MS Word 2016, when I make a large selection it does not say a short phrase of the “from” and “to” of the selection. For example, if I selected an entire paragraph that started with “See spot run” and ended with “ball is blue,” these phrases used to be spoken as the “from” and “to” selection along with the total number of characters within the selection. In earlier versions of MS Word and JAWS, this behavior was consistent, but not any longer in JAWS 2019 with MS Word 2016.
Is anyone else noticing this? Has, or should, this been reported to the JAWS bug fix cue?
Thanks, Richard
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Re: entries in jaws dictionary
Matthew Horspool
Hi Mike, With a rule such as you describe, the number 1 is part of the actual word but not part of the replacement word and so JAWS won't speak it. To take an easier example: actual word dog; replacement word cat. This tells JAWS that, whenever it sees the word "dog", it should say "cat". Not "doccat" or "caddog", just "cat". So, to make that rule do what you want, you would need: actual word [*1, replacement word official reporter page 1. This is assuming that it worked as you described in the first place, which surprises me because, as others have said, the * is the wildcard character! Matthew
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mike mcglashon Sent: 11 November 2018 16:52 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: entries in jaws dictionary
Yes, stars do appear in the document. With each case read, There are generally three reporters to which the case is published. As I read, I will see something like: [*123] this represents the official reporter; (this is what I am most interested in); [**123] this represents the highest unofficial reporter; [***123] this represents the second level unofficial reporter; I think I tried to do what you said once, In that, I put an entry in like this: Actual word: [*1 replacement word: "official reporter page" All jaws did at that point, was to say "official reporter page" it did not read the actual word which would have been [*123]. I expected jaws to say "official reporter page" and then the page number which would be the actual word.
Mike mcglashon Email: Michael.mcglashon@... Ph: 618 783 9331
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 11:40 AM Subject: Re: entries in jaws dictionary
Mike, do asterisks (AKA stars) appear any where else within the document? if not, you can make an entry with the actual word as an asterisk and the replacement word as page number. the result should say page number followed by the actual page number in the document when ever JAWS reads all or if you need to edit.
-------- Original Message -------- From: Dave... [mailto:dgcarlson@...] Sent: Sun, Nov 11, 2018 10:56 AM EST Subject: entries in jaws dictionary
Mike,
No idea myself. I don't write scripts. I'm retired and only have time to do woodworking or trying to stay retired. Writing scripts sounds too much like programming, which I did plenty of when I was not retired.
Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message ----- From: mike mcglashon Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 07:53 Subject: Re: entries in jaws dictionary
wow, That’s out of my league. How would a fellow even begin to do something like that?
contact information Mike McGlashon PH: 618-783-9331 Email: michael.mcglashon@...
On Nov 11, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Dave... <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Mike,
Not sure that's possible with the JAWS Dictionary. And I think the asterisk is the wildcard character, and searching for that may not work. Your solution might require writing a JAWS script for the application you're using to read these documents.
Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message ----- From: mike mcglashon Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 06:58 Subject: entries in jaws dictionary
Hi guys:
I have a question regarding dictionary entries in jaws, 2019;
Here’s how it goes:
When I read court cases;
There are embedded page numbers within the case;
For instance,
A case might start on page 350 and go to 360;
Within the case, as one reads, he will find [*350), [*351), [*352], etc up to [*360].
What I would like to do,
Is when jaws sees these page number strings, [*3, where [*3 is part of the string for [*351];
I wish jaws to say, “official reporter page” and then the page numbers within the brackets;
So, when jaws sees [*354], it will say “official reporter page 354”
I tried making entries for this, but jaws will say “official reporter page” but it won’t say the page number within the brackets;
How do I put in the wildcard within the replacement word box so that jaws will say “official reporter page” and yet still read the original word that it is on;
Better yet, instead of having jaws say “official reporter page”, I have it make a sound and yet still read the string of original text?
My goal is since I know that there is only one star (*) between the left bracket and the beginning of the page number, I can make ten entries within the dictionary,
All that either say “official page reporter” and then the original string saying the page number itself,
Or I can have jaws play a sound when it sees that string, and then still say the actual word which is the page number of the reporter that I am on at the time.
I hope I haven’t confused anyone?
Please advise as necessary.
Mike m.
Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon@...
Ph: 618 783 9331
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Re: Why am I hearing Inverted cap i at 1 and other such distracting things in Jaws 2019
Larry Gassman
by default it is set to clasic.
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Mine still is. Larry
At 10:26 AM 11/11/2018, you wrote:
Hi Larry & Richard,
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Re: How does one start Microsoft Narrator at the Login Screen in Windows 10?
Richard Turner
If you don't find the Narrator commands, write me off list and I'll send you a document of them.
Richard
"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Nov 11, 2018, at 4:12 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io <kramlinger.keith@...> wrote:
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Re: How does one start Microsoft Narrator at the Login Screen in Windows 10?
Hi Ann,
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When Keith speaks about the logon screen I assume he means the password screen. If Windows Key+Control+Enter does not start Narrator then nothing else will either, what you describe first would require him to have entered the password to log in and get to the desktop. Also, Windows Key+R for the Run command can be pressed anywhere if you are logged in, there is no need to first press Control+Escape which is exactly the same as pressing the Windows key anyways. Lastly, you can go to the Run dialogue and type Narrator, but you can also simply press the Windows key to bring up the Windows search box and type Narrator and press enter to start it. In most cases even typing the first 3 or 4 letters of Narrator will bring it up in the Windows search box and pressing enter will start it.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 6:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How does one start Microsoft Narrator at the Login Screen in Windows 10? Starting on the logon screen, the shortcut Windows+ctrl+enter will work if it is set up, but not if it isn't. So if you try the shortcut on the logon screen and nothing happens, try this: 1. Press ctrl+escape to get to the start menu. 2. Type Windows+r (run) 3. Type "narrator" and press enter. Once you have Narrator running, tinker with the settings. Be sure the 'use shortcut key' is checked. If you want narrator to start automatically on the logon screen, check that setting. There is also a setting to start Narrator automatically after logon, which can be checked. The list of Narrator shortcut keys will display when you press capslock+f1.
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: How does one start Microsoft Narrator at the Login Screen in Windows 10?
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Thanks very much, Ann. I'll give this a try tomorrow.
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Sieghard, I need to first use Narrator to get onto the computer, download and install the JAWS demo mode, before I can give JAWS a test run on Windows 10. Thanks, Keith
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 8:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: How does one start Microsoft Narrator at the Login Screen in Windows 10? Starting on the logon screen, the shortcut Windows+ctrl+enter will work if it is set up, but not if it isn't. So if you try the shortcut on the logon screen and nothing happens, try this: 1. Press ctrl+escape to get to the start menu. 2. Type Windows+r (run) 3. Type "narrator" and press enter. Once you have Narrator running, tinker with the settings. Be sure the 'use shortcut key' is checked. If you want narrator to start automatically on the logon screen, check that setting. There is also a setting to start Narrator automatically after logon, which can be checked. The list of Narrator shortcut keys will display when you press capslock+f1.
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Re: How does one start Microsoft Narrator at the Login Screen in Windows 10?
Ann Byrne
Starting on the logon screen, the shortcut Windows+ctrl+enter will work if it is set up, but not if it isn't. So if you try the shortcut on the logon screen and nothing happens, try this:
1. Press ctrl+escape to get to the start menu. 2. Type Windows+r (run) 3. Type "narrator" and press enter. Once you have Narrator running, tinker with the settings. Be sure the 'use shortcut key' is checked. If you want narrator to start automatically on the logon screen, check that setting. There is also a setting to start Narrator automatically after logon, which can be checked. The list of Narrator shortcut keys will display when you press capslock+f1.
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Re: JAWS 2019: JAWS often speaks version number when navigating or opening some dialogs
Is it possible Jaws actually crashes and reloads itself since you would hear the Jaws version at that time.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
David Goldfield
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 4:36 PM To: JAWS Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: JAWS 2019: JAWS often speaks version number when navigating or opening some dialogs
Hi. I'm using JAWS 2019 on Windows 10 Pro. At times when opening a JAWS dialog I often will hear JAWS announce the full version number of the JAWS program before I hear the prompt of the dialog which I am expecting. This version information is the same information you will hear if you open the JAWS window and press insert+up arrow to read the current line. It does not happen often and so it is very difficult to reproduce. Has anybody else noticed this issue?
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Re: How does one start Microsoft Narrator at the Login Screen in Windows 10?
If the PC has been upgraded to version 1809 before that update got pulled Narrator will offer you a tutorital after you start it. In case it has not yet been upgraded the Narrator experience will be quite different, Microsoft has made a lot of improvements in the 1809 version of Windows. Of course in my opinion it still cannot be compared with the Jaws 2019 experience so whatever you get out of using this PC with Narrator maybe of limited value.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 4:15 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How does one start Microsoft Narrator at the Login Screen in Windows 10?
control windows enter will start narrator. This is a toggle keystroke, so the same keystroke will exit narrator.
HTH,
Chris ,
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Shortcut keys disappearing windows 10
Richard Turner
I’m cross posting this to the two Jaws groups.
After installing Jaws 2019, and as far as I know, that is the only change I have made, the shortcuts on my desktop like to Jaws, Outlook, Word, for which I had defined shortcut keys like control+alt+j, control+alt+w, etc., have stopped working. When I right click on one and select properties, the shortcut key is no longer editable, so I cannot replace or repair them. Windows 10 home 64 bit, Jaws 2019 and 2018. But, it seems to have happened after issues arose with Jaws 2019, which I am hoping is just a cowinkiedink, otherwise known as a coincidence. . Anyone else seen this and have a clue what to do? I have tried searching the web and come up empty so far.
Richard
“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
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Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016
Tom Behler
Mike:
I can keep this suggestion in mind, but I am not just having problems with Word.
I’m also having similar reading issues with Outlook 2016, so I’m thinking this might be more of a Jaws issue than anything else.
I have written to Freedom Scientific Tech Support about this, so will see what they say.
If they give me any suggestions that solve the issue, I’ll definitely post to the list.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 1:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016
Hi Tom,
I don't know if this will help but, if you go into Word options/ Advanced tab and tab to, Disable hardware graphics acceleration check box, and if this unchecked, check it, tab to, okay, press enter to save / close. Now, see if this helps any. Take care. Mike. Go Rams! ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Behler Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 6:48 AM Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016
Larry:
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Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements
David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
Hi. I actually recall seeing this option while I was using Chrome. However, when I copied an entire article to the clipboard I was disappointed to see that the majority of the article was never copied, even though I had selected all of the desired text.
I have been told that the only browser where this feature works reliably is Internet Explorer, which is not a browser that I would prefer to use. David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 11/11/2018 8:22 AM, Mike B. wrote:
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