Date   

Re: Email

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Don,
 
You will occasionally hear Outlook Express spoken because WLM and Outlook Express share some same files / scripts in Jaws.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: Email

I’m using Windows 10 and JAWS 17 on my PC and the system regularly speaks “Windows Live Mail” but, as I indicated earlier, very occasionally I hear “Outlook Express.”  One of those mystical JAWS happenings!!
 
Don
 
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: Email
 
Don,

            I am presuming this current topic is a spin off of your earlier query regarding the Windows 10 Mail App and asking for a tutorial.  I'm also presuming I might be the Brian you're addressing.

            I have no idea why JAWS might occasionally say "Outlook Express" if you're actually using Windows Live Mail, particularly one of the later versions, but if you know that's what you're using it's probably some peculiarity about timing and what gets exposed to the screen reader for reading at a split second in time.

            If you're using the Windows 10 Mail App I would hope there's never be mention of Outlook Express or Windows Live Mail in any way, shape, or form.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Problems when entering formulae in Excel

Sameer
 

 
Dear List Friends,
 
While entering formulae in Excel using the arrow keys, JAWS does not speak the cell coordinates when arrowing left or right but will speak them if arrowing up or down. For example, if I want to enter =B1+B2 in cell A1, JAWS will read “=B1” when I arrow down from A1 after typing the = sign. But when I press the + sign & arrow right to B2, JAWS will stay silent. But the formula appears in cell A1.
 
Kindly advise how I can make JAWS read the cell references when arrowing left or right when entering formulae.
 
I am using a 64 bit Windows 7OS with JAWS 18 & Office 2016.
 
Thanking you in advance for any & all assistance.
 
Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India


Re: Email

Don Walls
 

I’m using Windows 10 and JAWS 17 on my PC and the system regularly speaks “Windows Live Mail” but, as I indicated earlier, very occasionally I hear “Outlook Express.”  One of those mystical JAWS happenings!!
 
Don
 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email
 
Don,

            I am presuming this current topic is a spin off of your earlier query regarding the Windows 10 Mail App and asking for a tutorial.  I'm also presuming I might be the Brian you're addressing.

            I have no idea why JAWS might occasionally say "Outlook Express" if you're actually using Windows Live Mail, particularly one of the later versions, but if you know that's what you're using it's probably some peculiarity about timing and what gets exposed to the screen reader for reading at a split second in time.

            If you're using the Windows 10 Mail App I would hope there's never be mention of Outlook Express or Windows Live Mail in any way, shape, or form.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Shirley,
 
I went ahead and purchased Office Home and Student 2016 from the Microsoft Store and I'm in the process of downloading it right now.  Thank you very much for your input.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

Mike,

 

I no nothing about Office 365, but I like the home and student version of Office 2016. I suppose it depends on what your wife uses it for, but for my own use it’s fine. I bought mine at Wal-Mart last year, on sale. Of course, they don’t just sell the disc any more. I only purchased a box that contained the key, and my son downloaded it for me from Microsoft. I was too tentative to try doing it myself without sight.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:04 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

 

Hi All,

 

I'm setting up a new Windows 10 Home laptop for my wife.  I would like to get feedback from those that used or know about both Office 2016 & Office 365.  I don't want a subscription but, I want an install version.

 

Would y'all please tell me which would be the best option?  I'm looking at the Home & Student version of either the Office or Office 365 since the program will get very little use.  All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

 


Re: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Brian,
 
Thank you very much for verifying the Office 365 subscription / download query.  I'm going to get Office 2016 Home and Student from the Microsoft Store.  Thanks again.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

Mike,

           To my knowledge Office 365 is strictly a subscription service, and looking at this Microsoft Office Product Page bears that out.

            With recent changes in the law in the EU and several other venues Microsoft can no longer tie a Microsoft Office single install license to a single machine.  That license can still only be used for a single instance of Office, but if the machine it was originally on is decommissioned the license is free to be used on a different computer.  This has caused a cottage industry to pop up in Europe and the Far East where machines being scrapped are being bought up, the licenses extracted, then the machines are scrapped or recycled.  Those licenses are offered for sale on eBay for a song.

              I have now updated 5 computers, 4 in my household and one for a regular who shall remain nameless here, with Microsoft Office 2016 Pro Plus using licenses purchased from eBay for less than $10 each.  The last one cost me the princely sum of $5.39, and though I had to use the phone activation rather than internet activation, it activated without a hitch.

               If you want installed then it's some version of Office 2016.  Given the low cost of recycled licenses, I'd definitely try one of those first.  I did have one that would not work and the seller promptly sent me a different license key.  If you see someone selling these that has solid seller ratings in their profile I wouldn't hesitate for one second.  A couple of these that I bought for under $7.50 were from new and unknown sellers, but the potential loss (which, by the way, did not happen) was so small it was well worth the risk compared to the cost of a brand new license.

               This practice, by the way, is entirely legal, at least if done under the current laws.  The one thing that does get fudged a lot is that the sellers are supposed to have to sell you the actual junked hardware, too.  They generally do, on paper, then you "donate it back" to the seller and never see it.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

Shirley Tracy
 

Mike,

 

I no nothing about Office 365, but I like the home and student version of Office 2016. I suppose it depends on what your wife uses it for, but for my own use it’s fine. I bought mine at Wal-Mart last year, on sale. Of course, they don’t just sell the disc any more. I only purchased a box that contained the key, and my son downloaded it for me from Microsoft. I was too tentative to try doing it myself without sight.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:04 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

 

Hi All,

 

I'm setting up a new Windows 10 Home laptop for my wife.  I would like to get feedback from those that used or know about both Office 2016 & Office 365.  I don't want a subscription but, I want an install version.

 

Would y'all please tell me which would be the best option?  I'm looking at the Home & Student version of either the Office or Office 365 since the program will get very little use.  All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

 


Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets

Dave Durber
 

Mario:

Highlight the GoldWave icon on the desktop.

Press ALT+ENTER, to open its properties.

tab across to the "Run" combo box. The default is to run in a normal window.

Press DOWN ARROW, twice to get to Maximize.

Press ALT+A, to apply the change.

Press SHIFT+TAB, until you get to the OK button.

Press SPACE BAR or ENTER, to close the properties.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets


after I start Goldwave, pressing alt+space bar and up arrow twice, JAWS
says "maximized, unavailable". I realize you erred, but you said ", are
the Windows not maximized?". goldwave has more than one window? if so,
how do I maximize which window because I thought Goldwave has only one
window to maximize.

I appreciate that you'll check it out when you get back to your work
place. also let me know what version of the scripts you're running,
version 1.6 or 2.0 or what?
you'll find it by holding down the insert and pressing q twice. this
will put the info in a virtual window.

------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 29, 2018 11:57 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

Mario,
By chance, are the Windows not maximized?
I will try and check on Monday when I'm at work, but I have Windows 7
there and I don't think I'm experiencing it at work either, but I don't
use it that often on that machine.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets

I think the difference is when Goldwave is running in Windows 10 as
opposed to running in Windows 7. something is not quite right.
to add to my previous inquiry, there is no issue with the display driver
for JAWS. if it is working fine, and the scripts are, according to Jim,
working properly, but according to me, the scripts are loading fine,
it's got to be the issue I stated above, right? I mean users using
Goldwave in Windows 10 are reporting the issue I'm experiencing is not
happening for them.

-------- Original Message --------
From: JM Casey [mailto:crystallogic@...]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 29, 2018 11:10 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

No idea. This isn't happening for me. JAWS 2018, Goldwave 6.35 and
Windows 10.
You could use the JAWS cursor to click on the item you want in the
dialog box. I just checked and it works, although for some reason the
JAWS cursor only reads the item your system cursor is on, but I haven't
tried it in any of the other JAWS cursor modes. Anyway, that's probably
not much of a better workaround than yours.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: September 29, 2018 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

I'm using the latest version of Goldwave with JAWS 2018 on Windows 7:

whenever I navigate to any effect I want to test out on a sound file,
JAWS does not read the names of the presets as I down arrow but the
preset does activated when pressing F4 to preview the result, but then
don't know what preset I'm testing out. however, the only way I can get
JAWS to announce the name is to press alt+down arrow, arrow down or up
to a preset, press alt+up arrow, and press F4. this gets rather tedious
after doing it for a few times. in other instances where I can adjust a
setting for the preset and where I can type a value instead of arrowing
to change the value, JAWS remains silent when pressing the down or up
arrows.

I have emailed Jim Grimsby and it was established that the scripts are
at least loading properly but something is still not right because my
problem persists, and he is unable to Tandem at this time to investigate
and fix my problem.

does anyone have an idea as to what to do to either troubleshoot and/or
fix my problem, or have the email address of Gary Campbell, Jim Bowers,
Jitendra and/or Ramkumar?







.












Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets

Mario
 

is that the same as alt+dash, x?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dean Martineau [mailto:topdot@...]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 29, 2018 3:32 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

You also want to maximize the child window in Goldwave with alt_hyphen, x.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets

after I start Goldwave, pressing alt+space bar and up arrow twice, JAWS
says "maximized, unavailable". I realize you erred, but you said ", are
the Windows not maximized?". goldwave has more than one window? if so,
how do I maximize which window because I thought Goldwave has only one
window to maximize.

I appreciate that you'll check it out when you get back to your work
place. also let me know what version of the scripts you're running,
version 1.6 or 2.0 or what?
you'll find it by holding down the insert and pressing q twice. this
will put the info in a virtual window.

------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 29, 2018 11:57 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

Mario,
By chance, are the Windows not maximized?
I will try and check on Monday when I'm at work, but I have Windows 7
there and I don't think I'm experiencing it at work either, but I don't
use it that often on that machine.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets

I think the difference is when Goldwave is running in Windows 10 as
opposed to running in Windows 7. something is not quite right.
to add to my previous inquiry, there is no issue with the display driver
for JAWS. if it is working fine, and the scripts are, according to Jim,
working properly, but according to me, the scripts are loading fine,
it's got to be the issue I stated above, right? I mean users using
Goldwave in Windows 10 are reporting the issue I'm experiencing is not
happening for them.

-------- Original Message --------
From: JM Casey [mailto:crystallogic@...]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 29, 2018 11:10 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

No idea. This isn't happening for me. JAWS 2018, Goldwave 6.35 and
Windows 10.
You could use the JAWS cursor to click on the item you want in the
dialog box. I just checked and it works, although for some reason the
JAWS cursor only reads the item your system cursor is on, but I haven't
tried it in any of the other JAWS cursor modes. Anyway, that's probably
not much of a better workaround than yours.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: September 29, 2018 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

I'm using the latest version of Goldwave with JAWS 2018 on Windows 7:

whenever I navigate to any effect I want to test out on a sound file,
JAWS does not read the names of the presets as I down arrow but the
preset does activated when pressing F4 to preview the result, but then
don't know what preset I'm testing out. however, the only way I can get
JAWS to announce the name is to press alt+down arrow, arrow down or up
to a preset, press alt+up arrow, and press F4. this gets rather tedious
after doing it for a few times. in other instances where I can adjust a
setting for the preset and where I can type a value instead of arrowing
to change the value, JAWS remains silent when pressing the down or up
arrows.

I have emailed Jim Grimsby and it was established that the scripts are
at least loading properly but something is still not right because my
problem persists, and he is unable to Tandem at this time to investigate
and fix my problem.

does anyone have an idea as to what to do to either troubleshoot and/or
fix my problem, or have the email address of Gary Campbell, Jim Bowers,
Jitendra and/or Ramkumar?







.
















.


Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

You also want to maximize the child window in Goldwave with alt_hyphen, x.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets

after I start Goldwave, pressing alt+space bar and up arrow twice, JAWS
says "maximized, unavailable". I realize you erred, but you said ", are
the Windows not maximized?". goldwave has more than one window? if so,
how do I maximize which window because I thought Goldwave has only one
window to maximize.

I appreciate that you'll check it out when you get back to your work
place. also let me know what version of the scripts you're running,
version 1.6 or 2.0 or what?
you'll find it by holding down the insert and pressing q twice. this
will put the info in a virtual window.

------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 29, 2018 11:57 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

Mario,
By chance, are the Windows not maximized?
I will try and check on Monday when I'm at work, but I have Windows 7
there and I don't think I'm experiencing it at work either, but I don't
use it that often on that machine.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets

I think the difference is when Goldwave is running in Windows 10 as
opposed to running in Windows 7. something is not quite right.
to add to my previous inquiry, there is no issue with the display driver
for JAWS. if it is working fine, and the scripts are, according to Jim,
working properly, but according to me, the scripts are loading fine,
it's got to be the issue I stated above, right? I mean users using
Goldwave in Windows 10 are reporting the issue I'm experiencing is not
happening for them.

-------- Original Message --------
From: JM Casey [mailto:crystallogic@...]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 29, 2018 11:10 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

No idea. This isn't happening for me. JAWS 2018, Goldwave 6.35 and
Windows 10.
You could use the JAWS cursor to click on the item you want in the
dialog box. I just checked and it works, although for some reason the
JAWS cursor only reads the item your system cursor is on, but I haven't
tried it in any of the other JAWS cursor modes. Anyway, that's probably
not much of a better workaround than yours.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: September 29, 2018 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

I'm using the latest version of Goldwave with JAWS 2018 on Windows 7:

whenever I navigate to any effect I want to test out on a sound file,
JAWS does not read the names of the presets as I down arrow but the
preset does activated when pressing F4 to preview the result, but then
don't know what preset I'm testing out. however, the only way I can get
JAWS to announce the name is to press alt+down arrow, arrow down or up
to a preset, press alt+up arrow, and press F4. this gets rather tedious
after doing it for a few times. in other instances where I can adjust a
setting for the preset and where I can type a value instead of arrowing
to change the value, JAWS remains silent when pressing the down or up
arrows.

I have emailed Jim Grimsby and it was established that the scripts are
at least loading properly but something is still not right because my
problem persists, and he is unable to Tandem at this time to investigate
and fix my problem.

does anyone have an idea as to what to do to either troubleshoot and/or
fix my problem, or have the email address of Gary Campbell, Jim Bowers,
Jitendra and/or Ramkumar?







.


Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets

Mario
 

after I start Goldwave, pressing alt+space bar and up arrow twice, JAWS
says "maximized, unavailable". I realize you erred, but you said ", are
the Windows not maximized?". goldwave has more than one window? if so,
how do I maximize which window because I thought Goldwave has only one
window to maximize.

I appreciate that you'll check it out when you get back to your work
place. also let me know what version of the scripts you're running,
version 1.6 or 2.0 or what?
you'll find it by holding down the insert and pressing q twice. this
will put the info in a virtual window.

------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 29, 2018 11:57 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

Mario,
By chance, are the Windows not maximized?
I will try and check on Monday when I'm at work, but I have Windows 7
there and I don't think I'm experiencing it at work either, but I don't
use it that often on that machine.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets

I think the difference is when Goldwave is running in Windows 10 as
opposed to running in Windows 7. something is not quite right.
to add to my previous inquiry, there is no issue with the display driver
for JAWS. if it is working fine, and the scripts are, according to Jim,
working properly, but according to me, the scripts are loading fine,
it's got to be the issue I stated above, right? I mean users using
Goldwave in Windows 10 are reporting the issue I'm experiencing is not
happening for them.

-------- Original Message --------
From: JM Casey [mailto:crystallogic@...]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 29, 2018 11:10 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

No idea. This isn't happening for me. JAWS 2018, Goldwave 6.35 and
Windows 10.
You could use the JAWS cursor to click on the item you want in the
dialog box. I just checked and it works, although for some reason the
JAWS cursor only reads the item your system cursor is on, but I haven't
tried it in any of the other JAWS cursor modes. Anyway, that's probably
not much of a better workaround than yours.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: September 29, 2018 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

I'm using the latest version of Goldwave with JAWS 2018 on Windows 7:

whenever I navigate to any effect I want to test out on a sound file,
JAWS does not read the names of the presets as I down arrow but the
preset does activated when pressing F4 to preview the result, but then
don't know what preset I'm testing out. however, the only way I can get
JAWS to announce the name is to press alt+down arrow, arrow down or up
to a preset, press alt+up arrow, and press F4. this gets rather tedious
after doing it for a few times. in other instances where I can adjust a
setting for the preset and where I can type a value instead of arrowing
to change the value, JAWS remains silent when pressing the down or up
arrows.

I have emailed Jim Grimsby and it was established that the scripts are
at least loading properly but something is still not right because my
problem persists, and he is unable to Tandem at this time to investigate
and fix my problem.

does anyone have an idea as to what to do to either troubleshoot and/or
fix my problem, or have the email address of Gary Campbell, Jim Bowers,
Jitendra and/or Ramkumar?







.


Re: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

 

Mike,

           To my knowledge Office 365 is strictly a subscription service, and looking at this Microsoft Office Product Page bears that out.

            With recent changes in the law in the EU and several other venues Microsoft can no longer tie a Microsoft Office single install license to a single machine.  That license can still only be used for a single instance of Office, but if the machine it was originally on is decommissioned the license is free to be used on a different computer.  This has caused a cottage industry to pop up in Europe and the Far East where machines being scrapped are being bought up, the licenses extracted, then the machines are scrapped or recycled.  Those licenses are offered for sale on eBay for a song.

              I have now updated 5 computers, 4 in my household and one for a regular who shall remain nameless here, with Microsoft Office 2016 Pro Plus using licenses purchased from eBay for less than $10 each.  The last one cost me the princely sum of $5.39, and though I had to use the phone activation rather than internet activation, it activated without a hitch.

               If you want installed then it's some version of Office 2016.  Given the low cost of recycled licenses, I'd definitely try one of those first.  I did have one that would not work and the seller promptly sent me a different license key.  If you see someone selling these that has solid seller ratings in their profile I wouldn't hesitate for one second.  A couple of these that I bought for under $7.50 were from new and unknown sellers, but the potential loss (which, by the way, did not happen) was so small it was well worth the risk compared to the cost of a brand new license.

               This practice, by the way, is entirely legal, at least if done under the current laws.  The one thing that does get fudged a lot is that the sellers are supposed to have to sell you the actual junked hardware, too.  They generally do, on paper, then you "donate it back" to the seller and never see it.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi All,
 
I'm setting up a new Windows 10 Home laptop for my wife.  I would like to get feedback from those that used or know about both Office 2016 & Office 365.  I don't want a subscription but, I want an install version.
 
Would y'all please tell me which would be the best option?  I'm looking at the Home & Student version of either the Office or Office 365 since the program will get very little use.  All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


Re: Does anybody use word press with jars?

Hope Williamson <isepic@...>
 

                Hi, I’ve used WP for 14 years. While I mostly use NVDA these days. That wasn’t true in the past. WordPress works fine with both JFW and NVDA. Of course if you’re talking about the wordpress.com version I don’t have as much experience with that. I’ve used the self-hosted version.

.

 


Re: Email

 

Don,

            I am presuming this current topic is a spin off of your earlier query regarding the Windows 10 Mail App and asking for a tutorial.  I'm also presuming I might be the Brian you're addressing.

            I have no idea why JAWS might occasionally say "Outlook Express" if you're actually using Windows Live Mail, particularly one of the later versions, but if you know that's what you're using it's probably some peculiarity about timing and what gets exposed to the screen reader for reading at a split second in time.

            If you're using the Windows 10 Mail App I would hope there's never be mention of Outlook Express or Windows Live Mail in any way, shape, or form.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Figured work-around for JAWS beta for 40-minute mode

David & his pack of dogs
 

Thanks.  For a minute there I thought you found a work around to bypass the demo mode. That happened with JAWS 8, I inadvertently found a way to bypass the prompt thus the system thought it was a licensed product rather than a demo. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: September 29, 2018 4:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Figured work-around for JAWS beta for 40-minute mode

 

Hi listers:

 

A few days ago, a list member had trouble using JAWS Beta in 40-minute mode.

 

The problem was that JAWS was saying a corporate license file was needed.  When selecting “OK” on this button, JAWS would close.

 

It turns out that this problem only occurs if you select the checkbox to not show the authorization dialog at startup.

 

So, when you first install the beta on a system not authorized for JAWS, you can still run it in 40-minute mode, but, you should not check the box that says “do not show this dialog again” at startup.  Each time you start the beta, you will need to hit the button “Continue in 40-minute mode” (by pressing alt-C) at startup.

 

I have reported this on the beta report form.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets

Richard Turner
 

Mario,
By chance, are the Windows not maximized?
I will try and check on Monday when I'm at work, but I have Windows 7 there and I don't think I'm experiencing it at work either, but I don't use it that often on that machine.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets

I think the difference is when Goldwave is running in Windows 10 as opposed to running in Windows 7. something is not quite right.
to add to my previous inquiry, there is no issue with the display driver for JAWS. if it is working fine, and the scripts are, according to Jim, working properly, but according to me, the scripts are loading fine, it's got to be the issue I stated above, right? I mean users using Goldwave in Windows 10 are reporting the issue I'm experiencing is not happening for them.

-------- Original Message --------
From: JM Casey [mailto:crystallogic@...]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 29, 2018 11:10 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

No idea. This isn't happening for me. JAWS 2018, Goldwave 6.35 and Windows 10.
You could use the JAWS cursor to click on the item you want in the dialog box. I just checked and it works, although for some reason the JAWS cursor only reads the item your system cursor is on, but I haven't tried it in any of the other JAWS cursor modes. Anyway, that's probably not much of a better workaround than yours.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: September 29, 2018 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

I'm using the latest version of Goldwave with JAWS 2018 on Windows 7:

whenever I navigate to any effect I want to test out on a sound file, JAWS does not read the names of the presets as I down arrow but the preset does activated when pressing F4 to preview the result, but then don't know what preset I'm testing out. however, the only way I can get JAWS to announce the name is to press alt+down arrow, arrow down or up to a preset, press alt+up arrow, and press F4. this gets rather tedious after doing it for a few times. in other instances where I can adjust a setting for the preset and where I can type a value instead of arrowing to change the value, JAWS remains silent when pressing the down or up arrows.

I have emailed Jim Grimsby and it was established that the scripts are at least loading properly but something is still not right because my problem persists, and he is unable to Tandem at this time to investigate and fix my problem.

does anyone have an idea as to what to do to either troubleshoot and/or fix my problem, or have the email address of Gary Campbell, Jim Bowers, Jitendra and/or Ramkumar?







.


Re: Does anybody use word press with jars?

David & his pack of dogs
 

There is a face book group specifically for word press users.  One of the members probably the mod offered to help me with mine, at a cost of course.  Problem was, his grammar was so pathetic that I felt if he is so negligent about not using a spell checker/grammar checker, how could he help build a professional looking word press blog. Sorry, how we come across to the general public is extremely important. If words are crammed together or our grammar is poor it reflects negatively on our product and makes us look uneducated. Thus someone will go somewhere else.     

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
Sent: September 29, 2018 5:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anybody use word press with jars?

 

Hello David. I would appreciate it if you would pass along links to the tutorials that you found particularly helpful.

Thanks so much.


On Sep 29, 2018, at 12:24 AM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

Yes,

Word Press is very accessible with JAWS.

I have my own blog that I am setting up right now.

There are great tutorials on line, and JAWS works very well with the free:

www.wordpress.com

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jim Portillo
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 1:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Does anybody use word press with jars?

 

Hello,

 

Does anyone here use Wordpress with their computer and Jaws? I also read that there are tutorials to use it, but again, I don’t know if that’s using it with jaws. Could I get some information from you guys on how well it works and whether or not I can start a blog?

 

Jim

 

7!

 

 


Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

It seems logical.
Goldwave has a forum don't they? Maybe you could write there. Surely there are other Windows 7 users. I jumped straight from XP to Windows 10 and so never experienced GW with 7 in any version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: September 29, 2018 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets

I think the difference is when Goldwave is running in Windows 10 as opposed to running in Windows 7. something is not quite right.
to add to my previous inquiry, there is no issue with the display driver for JAWS. if it is working fine, and the scripts are, according to Jim, working properly, but according to me, the scripts are loading fine, it's got to be the issue I stated above, right? I mean users using Goldwave in Windows 10 are reporting the issue I'm experiencing is not happening for them.

-------- Original Message --------
From: JM Casey [mailto:crystallogic@...]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 29, 2018 11:10 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

No idea. This isn't happening for me. JAWS 2018, Goldwave 6.35 and Windows 10.
You could use the JAWS cursor to click on the item you want in the dialog box. I just checked and it works, although for some reason the JAWS cursor only reads the item your system cursor is on, but I haven't tried it in any of the other JAWS cursor modes. Anyway, that's probably not much of a better workaround than yours.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: September 29, 2018 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

I'm using the latest version of Goldwave with JAWS 2018 on Windows 7:

whenever I navigate to any effect I want to test out on a sound file, JAWS does not read the names of the presets as I down arrow but the preset does activated when pressing F4 to preview the result, but then don't know what preset I'm testing out. however, the only way I can get JAWS to announce the name is to press alt+down arrow, arrow down or up to a preset, press alt+up arrow, and press F4. this gets rather tedious after doing it for a few times. in other instances where I can adjust a setting for the preset and where I can type a value instead of arrowing to change the value, JAWS remains silent when pressing the down or up arrows.

I have emailed Jim Grimsby and it was established that the scripts are at least loading properly but something is still not right because my problem persists, and he is unable to Tandem at this time to investigate and fix my problem.

does anyone have an idea as to what to do to either troubleshoot and/or fix my problem, or have the email address of Gary Campbell, Jim Bowers, Jitendra and/or Ramkumar?







.


Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets

Mario
 

I think the difference is when Goldwave is running in Windows 10 as
opposed to running in Windows 7. something is not quite right.
to add to my previous inquiry, there is no issue with the display driver
for JAWS. if it is working fine, and the scripts are, according to Jim,
working properly, but according to me, the scripts are loading fine,
it's got to be the issue I stated above, right? I mean users using
Goldwave in Windows 10 are reporting the issue I'm experiencing is not
happening for them.

-------- Original Message --------
From: JM Casey [mailto:crystallogic@...]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 29, 2018 11:10 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

No idea. This isn't happening for me. JAWS 2018, Goldwave 6.35 and
Windows 10.
You could use the JAWS cursor to click on the item you want in the
dialog box. I just checked and it works, although for some reason the
JAWS cursor only reads the item your system cursor is on, but I haven't
tried it in any of the other JAWS cursor modes. Anyway, that's probably
not much of a better workaround than yours.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: September 29, 2018 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

I'm using the latest version of Goldwave with JAWS 2018 on Windows 7:

whenever I navigate to any effect I want to test out on a sound file,
JAWS does not read the names of the presets as I down arrow but the
preset does activated when pressing F4 to preview the result, but then
don't know what preset I'm testing out. however, the only way I can get
JAWS to announce the name is to press alt+down arrow, arrow down or up
to a preset, press alt+up arrow, and press F4. this gets rather tedious
after doing it for a few times. in other instances where I can adjust a
setting for the preset and where I can type a value instead of arrowing
to change the value, JAWS remains silent when pressing the down or up
arrows.

I have emailed Jim Grimsby and it was established that the scripts are
at least loading properly but something is still not right because my
problem persists, and he is unable to Tandem at this time to investigate
and fix my problem.

does anyone have an idea as to what to do to either troubleshoot and/or
fix my problem, or have the email address of Gary Campbell, Jim Bowers,
Jitendra and/or Ramkumar?







.


Re: JAWS and Goldwave presets

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

No idea. This isn't happening for me. JAWS 2018, Goldwave 6.35 and Windows 10.
You could use the JAWS cursor to click on the item you want in the dialog box. I just checked and it works, although for some reason the JAWS cursor only reads the item your system cursor is on, but I haven't tried it in any of the other JAWS cursor modes. Anyway, that's probably not much of a better workaround than yours.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: September 29, 2018 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Goldwave presets

I'm using the latest version of Goldwave with JAWS 2018 on Windows 7:

whenever I navigate to any effect I want to test out on a sound file, JAWS does not read the names of the presets as I down arrow but the preset does activated when pressing F4 to preview the result, but then don't know what preset I'm testing out. however, the only way I can get JAWS to announce the name is to press alt+down arrow, arrow down or up to a preset, press alt+up arrow, and press F4. this gets rather tedious after doing it for a few times. in other instances where I can adjust a setting for the preset and where I can type a value instead of arrowing to change the value, JAWS remains silent when pressing the down or up arrows.

I have emailed Jim Grimsby and it was established that the scripts are at least loading properly but something is still not right because my problem persists, and he is unable to Tandem at this time to investigate and fix my problem.

does anyone have an idea as to what to do to either troubleshoot and/or fix my problem, or have the email address of Gary Campbell, Jim Bowers, Jitendra and/or Ramkumar?