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Re: Question: Can JAWS Reverse Items Being Reported, as in "not checked, check box" instead of "check box, not checked"

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Mike, that did the trick!! Many thanks for jogging my memory.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 11/16/2018 9:24 AM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi David,
 
Yes, you can.  Personally I find this settings change to work better by changing this setting per application instead of in the Settings Center default all applications.  Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center, Insert / Jaws key + 6, on the number row and if you want to open Settings Center default all applications, press, Control, Shift + D, after opening the Settings Center.
2. Arrow down to, Text Processing closed, right arrow to open, arrow down to, General closed, and right arrow to open.
3. In here you have 17 items, your are interested in items 14, 15 and 16, depending on what you want to do.  When you get to these items tab 1 time to get a description of what the particular setting does.  For what you want, you would want to check number 16, Say Window State First, then tab to Okay, press enter to save and close.
Note:  Sometimes these settings changes don't work as advertised.
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 5:39 AM
Subject: Question: Can JAWS Reverse Items Being Reported, as in "not checked, check box" instead of "check box, not checked"

I thought JAWS had an option to reverse or change the order of items, such as whether you want to hear the control state first, as in "not checked, item, check box." I believe Window-eyes contained this feature and I thought that JAWS did as well but I can't seem to locate it in Settings Center.

--
David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com


Re: Protected files

 

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 09:19 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
NO, you don’t want to do that
We shall have to agree to disagree, and vigorously.   With the long past advent of scanning of e-mail messages and attachments by security suites the use of macros as an infection vector has virtually vanished.  Automatic protected mode in MS-Office is a major, major annoyance to anyone who only opens attachments from sources they know or trust.

Here are the instructions I wrote up with regard to turning it off:    
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Question: Can JAWS Reverse Items Being Reported, as in "not checked, check box" instead of "check box, not checked"

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi David,
 
Yes, you can.  Personally I find this settings change to work better by changing this setting per application instead of in the Settings Center default all applications.  Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center, Insert / Jaws key + 6, on the number row and if you want to open Settings Center default all applications, press, Control, Shift + D, after opening the Settings Center.
2. Arrow down to, Text Processing closed, right arrow to open, arrow down to, General closed, and right arrow to open.
3. In here you have 17 items, your are interested in items 14, 15 and 16, depending on what you want to do.  When you get to these items tab 1 time to get a description of what the particular setting does.  For what you want, you would want to check number 16, Say Window State First, then tab to Okay, press enter to save and close.
Note:  Sometimes these settings changes don't work as advertised.
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 5:39 AM
Subject: Question: Can JAWS Reverse Items Being Reported, as in "not checked, check box" instead of "check box, not checked"

I thought JAWS had an option to reverse or change the order of items, such as whether you want to hear the control state first, as in "not checked, item, check box." I believe Window-eyes contained this feature and I thought that JAWS did as well but I can't seem to locate it in Settings Center.

--
David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com


Re: Protected files

Richard Turner
 

NO, you don’t want to do that since it is a security feature so you are less likely to get a virus if you open a document with a macro built in that could really mess things up.

If it is from a trusted source, once the document is open, press f6 and listen for Be Careful, documents from the web may be dangerous.  Then tab to enable editing and press enter.

You can now edit and save it in an unprotected format.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 5:59 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Protected files

 

Hello, I’m using Jaws2018 and Windows10. For the last month I get emails with attachments. I open the files and they are always in a protected mode. Is there something I need to turn off in Outlook2016?

 

Kevin

 


Protected files

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Hello, I’m using Jaws2018 and Windows10. For the last month I get emails with attachments. I open the files and they are always in a protected mode. Is there something I need to turn off in Outlook2016?

 

Kevin

 


Question: Can JAWS Reverse Items Being Reported, as in "not checked, check box" instead of "check box, not checked"

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

I thought JAWS had an option to reverse or change the order of items, such as whether you want to hear the control state first, as in "not checked, item, check box." I believe Window-eyes contained this feature and I thought that JAWS did as well but I can't seem to locate it in Settings Center.

--
David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com


Re: Need Reminder About How to Merge Settings from J17 to J18

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi Mike and Dani,

The "Migrate Settings" option allows you to skip the export/import process. I don't know where JAWS 17 stands, but try the following in your JAWS 2018:

1.       From the JAWS window, press ALT+U for "Utilities". If JAWS is in the system tray, press JAWSKey+J, then U.

2.       Press I for "Import/Export", then M for "Migrate Settings …".

3.       You should land on a screen with a combo box of JAWS versions. If JAWS 17 is there, you're good to go! Press ENTER and let it do its thing. If not, or that screen doesn't appear, I'm afraid you're out of luck.

HTH,

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 15 November 2018 23:14
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Reminder About How to Merge Settings from J17 to J18

 

Hi Dani,

 

Merge settings was left out of Jaws 17.  Below is a FS note.

Unfortunately the merge utility is gone for now.
From the what’s new in jaws 17 page
 
“Merge Utility No Longer Available
 
Major changes have been made to improve the JAWS localization process. This included reorganizing many of the JAWS settings files. Due to these changes,
the Merge utility is no longer installed with JAWS 17 as settings from prior versions cannot be merged. We are planning a solution for the future which
will replace this utility and provide an even greater benefit for our customers.”
Note:  Because the settings need to be exported  from 1 Jaws version first before they can be imported into a different Jaws version this is why you won't be able to merge your J17 settings into J18.

Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool!
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I
typed up, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!

----- Original Message -----

From: Dani Pagador

To: main

Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 2:05 PM

Subject: Need Reminder About How to Merge Settings from J17 to J18

 

Hi, Everyone.
I finally have my JFW2018 fully activated and need a reminder about
how to merge the settings in J17 with this version. I thought there
was a Merge command, but can't find it.

Thanks,
Dani


Re: uninstall

Michael Munn
 

Yes use the Add and remove program that provided with Windows10 to uninstall your Jaws. Make sure you do not select remove share component. 
Thanks for asking. 
Your question is not dumb.
Best regards 
Michael Munn 
Michael Munn
Member:
Virginia Association of Blind students 
Member:
Maryland Association of Blind Students 
Students of:
Hadley Institute of the Blind
Hadley 


On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:28 PM Stan Holdeman <sholdeman@...> wrote:

I want to keep jaws 2019 and 2018 bbut uninstall J 18. I do not find an uninstall feature in the J 18 program package. So then it is OK to just use the add/remove feature provided by Windows 10?

 

I think this is a dumb question, but I am going to ask it anyway just in case there is something I am not aware of.

 

Stan

 


Re: uninstall

Kevin Minor
 

Hi Stan.

 

I uninstalled JAWS 2018 using Windows 10.  I didn’t use programs and features, though.  I hit WINDOWS+I to get into settings, then looked for apps, found JAWS 2018, activated it, and uninstalled it.  As a side note, I didn’t remove shared components, and when I uninstalled JAWS this way my speech went away, and I had to hit WINDOWS+R and ran JAWS2019.  Worked well.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY


Re: uninstall

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Yes, just uninstall that older version, and keep the shared components.

 

 

 

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 8:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: uninstall

 

I want to keep jaws 2019 and 2018 bbut uninstall J 18. I do not find an uninstall feature in the J 18 program package. So then it is OK to just use the add/remove feature provided by Windows 10?

 

I think this is a dumb question, but I am going to ask it anyway just in case there is something I am not aware of.

 

Stan

 


uninstall

Stan Holdeman
 

I want to keep jaws 2019 and 2018 bbut uninstall J 18. I do not find an uninstall feature in the J 18 program package. So then it is OK to just use the add/remove feature provided by Windows 10?

 

I think this is a dumb question, but I am going to ask it anyway just in case there is something I am not aware of.

 

Stan

 


Re: Need Reminder About How to Merge Settings from J17 to J18

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Dani,
 
Merge settings was left out of Jaws 17.  Below is a FS note.
Unfortunately the merge utility is gone for now.
From the what’s new in jaws 17 page
 
“Merge Utility No Longer Available
 
Major changes have been made to improve the JAWS localization process. This included reorganizing many of the JAWS settings files. Due to these changes,
the Merge utility is no longer installed with JAWS 17 as settings from prior versions cannot be merged. We are planning a solution for the future which
will replace this utility and provide an even greater benefit for our customers.”
Note:  Because the settings need to be exported  from 1 Jaws version first before they can be imported into a different Jaws version this is why you won't be able to merge your J17 settings into J18.
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool!
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I
typed up, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!

----- Original Message -----
To: main
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 2:05 PM
Subject: Need Reminder About How to Merge Settings from J17 to J18

Hi, Everyone.
I finally have my JFW2018 fully activated and need a reminder about
how to merge the settings in J17 with this version. I thought there
was a Merge command, but can't find it.

Thanks,
Dani



Need Reminder About How to Merge Settings from J17 to J18

Dani Pagador
 

Hi, Everyone.
I finally have my JFW2018 fully activated and need a reminder about
how to merge the settings in J17 with this version. I thought there
was a Merge command, but can't find it.

Thanks,
Dani


Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Mike!

 

Thanks for your below.  Indeed, the Windows+; is a great command.  For sure, I will employ it.  However, it does not confront the issue I have raised here.  We need to be able to navigate by character to a footnote/endnote reference for context and other reasons.  We used to be able to do this in earlier versions of JAWS and Word.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi Richard,

 

Give the following a try to see if it'll work in Word 2016:

I recently learned of a command, windows key plus ;, *semicolon*, which opens up a list box that gives you the options of accessing four fields, comments, footnotes, endnotes, and revisions.  Pressing enter on your choice opens a window that I believe contains text you can select and copy.  A caveat:  I have Windows 7 and Word 2010, and have not tried this command with any other operating system or Word version. 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:17 AM

Subject: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi!

 

I noticed that with JAWS 2019 and MS Word 2016, a footnote is not indicated when navigating by character.  It is only indicated when reading by paragraph, line or say-all.  However, if you know where the footnote reference is *and if you select it*, then it is indicated.  The indication is the footnote number, such as “footnote 16.”  In earlier versions of Word and JAWS, a footnote would be indicated irrespective of the navigation or reading method.  Presumably, this is likewise true for endnotes and comments as well.

 

This is a bit annoying because sometimes you want to know exactly where a footnote reference is.  For example, generally its reference (e.g., “16”) ought to be just after the period at the end of a sentence without any spaces between the period and the footnote reference.  Also, the text font of a footnote reference is superscript; so this ought not present a hard thing for JAWS to indicate.  Irritatingly, if all you do is navigate by character to where you know the footnote reference is, but do not select that area, all JAWS says is “space”; which is false since you know that there is a superscript footnote reference there. 

 

Has anyone else noticed this?  Is there a solution for this?  I have looked at the JAWS settings for this but did not find anything.  Maybe I missed it.

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client

Steve Matzura
 

But the big difference, and sometimes the deal-breaker, is that Thunderbird is free, and many people only want it if it's free.

On 11/14/2018 9:25 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

I notice that some people recommend Thunderbird as a JAWS-friendly email client. I have used this program for many years, initially with NVDA and now with JAWS 2019. While Thunderbird does technically work reasonably well with JAWS it does have its quirks which, while minor, may prove to be annoying for some users. I continue to use it because it's what I'm comfortable using. However, if I'm going to be honest I'd say that Outlook is really a better choice. JAWS not only supports it beautifully but it offers many ways to customize it in the quick settings dialog that you won't find when using Thunderbird.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 11/14/2018 2:23 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

It’s probably a different strokes for different folks deal, but for me, I find using the favorites section for switching between inboxes much quicker and more convenient this way. I’ve never really liked the control plus y command. Much less if it’s a command I do countless times every single day.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 11:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client

 

 

I have that many as well and I hit control-y and the first letter of the account I want to check.

Maybe I should look at the favorites, but it is hard to imagine it makes things any easier.

Richard

 

 

"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 


On Nov 14, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:

Folders. Convenient if you have multiple accounts configured. I’ve got four inboxes and two different draft folders in my Outlook 2016 favorites section.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 10:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client

 

I have never used the Favorites in Outlook 2016.

Are these Favorite contacts, or favorite folders?

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sameer
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client

 

 

I am unable to move to the Favourites list in Outlook 2016 by using the Tab key. So, I have to use the CTRL+Y keystroke to move from folder to folder. But my brother can see the folder list on screen & move through it with a mouse.

 

I am running JAWS 18 & Office 2016 on a Windows 10 desktop.

 

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey,

Mumbai, India

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: 14 November 2018 01:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client

 

Hi,

  Mail, the Windows 10 app has limited JAWS useage but for a best client I would recommend Outlook , Thunderbird  as others have suggested.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sameer
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 12:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client

 

 

Dear List friends,

 

I was previously using Windows Live Mail 2012 with Windows 7 to check my emails. Now I have upgraded to Windows 10 & found that Windows Live Mail will not install on Windows 10.

 

I request you to kindly suggest me a basic JAWS-friendly email client which I can use to check my emails & which is compatible with Windows 10.

 

Thanking you all in advance for your kind assistance.

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey,

Mumbai, India

 

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Re: LoggerPro Software w/ JAWS2019? #jaws

Mario
 

The Window-Eyes app for Logger Pro can be downloaded from App Central:
www.gwmicro.com/apps/logger_pro

-------- Original Message --------
From: Gregory Gerhart [mailto:gregory_gerhart@iu13.org]
Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2018 3:49 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: LoggerPro Software w/ JAWS2019? #jaws

Hi everyone. I am a Teacher for the Visually Impaired. My student will
be taking Chemistry next semester and will be using a program called
LoggerPro. Previously Windows-Eyes made a special script that made this
program accessible but I'm not sure if this is still available. Does
anyone else have experience using the software LoggerPro with JAWS or
other screen-readers?

Logger Pro Website: https://www.vernier.com/products/software/lp/
Windows-Eyes: http://www.gwmicro.com/Window-Eyes/Sci_Voice_Lab/

Thanks, Greg


Re: scanning a PDF

Richard Turner
 

In Office 365 Word 2016 does indeed do OCR on the PDF.
I have an image PDF I keep around for such testing.
If I just hit enter on it so the computer opens it in Adobe Acrobat DC, then Jaws offers to do OCR on the document.
If I do shift+f10 or use the applications key, and elect to open it in Word, I get a message that Word will now convert the document to an editable word document. I just tested both with my image pdf and I would say that Word did a little better job than did Jaws.
But, either way is quite good. If you have Office 365 though, and you want to then save the document, using Word means you don't have to copy it from the Jaws virtual screen and paste it into a document.

Ironically enough, the image PDF is a brochure about the Pac Mate ...

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 5:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF

But will this actually do OCR on an image PDF?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 5:35 AM
To: kevinmeyers@wi.rr.com
Cc: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF

Hi All,
As we are on the topic of scanning a PDF file, I discovered that if you are running windows 10, Office 365/Word 2016 you can import the PDF file into Word.

In the folder where the PDF is located, use Shift-F10 to bring up the context/application Menu. Select Open with and then Select Word.

There will be two prompts warning you that you are about to import the file and once you have accepted the two prompts the importing into Word will begin. Depending on the size of the file it may take a while for the conversion.

Formatting may change so be aware of that.

Hope this helps.

Original message:

I waited for about 2 minutes. I found out that the first 4-5 pages
have something Jaws couldn’t read. If I kept paging down I eventually
reached the text.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 11:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF
How many pages is the file and how long did you wait?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Kevin
Meyers
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 2:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: scanning a PDF
Hello,
I’m using windows10 and Jaws2018. I received a PDF file that Jaws will
not read. I tried to use the OCR in Jaws and that didn’t read it as well.
I put the cursor on the file name in my download folder. I then went
into the jaws window and pressed the necessary key strokes to start
the OCR. It never read anything.
I then went into the PDF and did the same with activating the OCR. It
still didn’t read anything.
Should I be doing something else?
Cheers,
Kevin


Re: scanning a PDF

Ann Byrne
 

Absolutely. although I have found that with longer files the process just hangs.

At 07:57 AM 11/15/2018, you wrote:
But will this actually do OCR on an image PDF?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 5:35 AM
To: kevinmeyers@wi.rr.com
Cc: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF

Hi All,
As we are on the topic of scanning a PDF file, I discovered that if you
are running windows 10, Office 365/Word 2016 you can import the PDF
file into Word.

In the folder where the PDF is located, use Shift-F10 to bring up the
context/application Menu. Select Open with and then Select Word.

There will be two prompts warning you that you are about to import the
file and once you have accepted the two prompts the importing into Word
will begin. Depending on the size of the file it may take a while for
the conversion.

Formatting may change so be aware of that.

Hope this helps.

Original message:

I waited for about 2 minutes. I found out that the first 4-5 pages have
something Jaws couldn’t read. If I kept paging down I eventually
reached the text.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 11:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF
How many pages is the file and how long did you wait?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 2:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: scanning a PDF
Hello,
I’m using windows10 and Jaws2018. I received a PDF file that Jaws will
not read. I tried to use the OCR in Jaws and that didn’t read it as well.
I put the cursor on the file name in my download folder. I then went
into the jaws window and pressed the necessary key strokes to start the
OCR. It never read anything.
I then went into the PDF and did the same with activating the OCR. It
still didn’t read anything.
Should I be doing something else?
Cheers,
Kevin




Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

Edward Green
 

Hi Alison,

Yes it is. I'd like to see a JAWS setting which allowed the virtual viewer to appear in the alt tab list of programs rather it than being ephemeral as now.

Cheers,

Ed 

On 15 Nov 2018, at 14:16, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:

This is really useful; thanks!

The other thing, which is a tidge aggravating, is if I have two documents open and shift tab between the two, perhaps to make a correction following reading the comment, then when I go back to the document with comments,  I need to start from scratch again with windows key semi-colon.

Still this tip is really useful, so thanks again.

 

Alison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 15 November 2018 14:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi Alison,

 

Yes there is.  You'll notice that each comment has a number above it, which JAWS announces as a link.

 

Press either space or enter on that numbered link, and you'll be taken to the relevant part of the text. I can't now recall whether both space and enter work, or whether you need to use one or the other.

 

Just to note: when you have moved to the relevant part of the text, you'll need to press windows key semicolon to bring the dialogue/comments list back up.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed 

 


On 15 Nov 2018, at 08:59, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:

I’ve only recently learnt about this keystroke and find it really useful for finding comments. However, when the comment suggests an error or a correcton, what I would like to do is to be taken to that particular comment in the text so I can amend it, or whatever. Is there a way of moving from the identified comment and then being moved to that part of the document?

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 14 November 2018 19:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi Richard,

 

Give the following a try to see if it'll work in Word 2016:

I recently learned of a command, windows key plus ;, *semicolon*, which opens up a list box that gives you the options of accessing four fields, comments, footnotes, endnotes, and revisions.  Pressing enter on your choice opens a window that I believe contains text you can select and copy.  A caveat:  I have Windows 7 and Word 2010, and have not tried this command with any other operating system or Word version. 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:17 AM

Subject: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi!

 

I noticed that with JAWS 2019 and MS Word 2016, a footnote is not indicated when navigating by character.  It is only indicated when reading by paragraph, line or say-all.  However, if you know where the footnote reference is *and if you select it*, then it is indicated.  The indication is the footnote number, such as “footnote 16.”  In earlier versions of Word and JAWS, a footnote would be indicated irrespective of the navigation or reading method.  Presumably, this is likewise true for endnotes and comments as well.

 

This is a bit annoying because sometimes you want to know exactly where a footnote reference is.  For example, generally its reference (e.g., “16”) ought to be just after the period at the end of a sentence without any spaces between the period and the footnote reference.  Also, the text font of a footnote reference is superscript; so this ought not present a hard thing for JAWS to indicate.  Irritatingly, if all you do is navigate by character to where you know the footnote reference is, but do not select that area, all JAWS says is “space”; which is false since you know that there is a superscript footnote reference there. 

 

Has anyone else noticed this?  Is there a solution for this?  I have looked at the JAWS settings for this but did not find anything.  Maybe I missed it.

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

CJ &AA MAY
 

This is really useful; thanks!

The other thing, which is a tidge aggravating, is if I have two documents open and shift tab between the two, perhaps to make a correction following reading the comment, then when I go back to the document with comments,  I need to start from scratch again with windows key semi-colon.

Still this tip is really useful, so thanks again.

 

Alison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 15 November 2018 14:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi Alison,

 

Yes there is.  You'll notice that each comment has a number above it, which JAWS announces as a link.

 

Press either space or enter on that numbered link, and you'll be taken to the relevant part of the text. I can't now recall whether both space and enter work, or whether you need to use one or the other.

 

Just to note: when you have moved to the relevant part of the text, you'll need to press windows key semicolon to bring the dialogue/comments list back up.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed 

 


On 15 Nov 2018, at 08:59, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:

I’ve only recently learnt about this keystroke and find it really useful for finding comments. However, when the comment suggests an error or a correcton, what I would like to do is to be taken to that particular comment in the text so I can amend it, or whatever. Is there a way of moving from the identified comment and then being moved to that part of the document?

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 14 November 2018 19:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi Richard,

 

Give the following a try to see if it'll work in Word 2016:

I recently learned of a command, windows key plus ;, *semicolon*, which opens up a list box that gives you the options of accessing four fields, comments, footnotes, endnotes, and revisions.  Pressing enter on your choice opens a window that I believe contains text you can select and copy.  A caveat:  I have Windows 7 and Word 2010, and have not tried this command with any other operating system or Word version. 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:17 AM

Subject: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi!

 

I noticed that with JAWS 2019 and MS Word 2016, a footnote is not indicated when navigating by character.  It is only indicated when reading by paragraph, line or say-all.  However, if you know where the footnote reference is *and if you select it*, then it is indicated.  The indication is the footnote number, such as “footnote 16.”  In earlier versions of Word and JAWS, a footnote would be indicated irrespective of the navigation or reading method.  Presumably, this is likewise true for endnotes and comments as well.

 

This is a bit annoying because sometimes you want to know exactly where a footnote reference is.  For example, generally its reference (e.g., “16”) ought to be just after the period at the end of a sentence without any spaces between the period and the footnote reference.  Also, the text font of a footnote reference is superscript; so this ought not present a hard thing for JAWS to indicate.  Irritatingly, if all you do is navigate by character to where you know the footnote reference is, but do not select that area, all JAWS says is “space”; which is false since you know that there is a superscript footnote reference there. 

 

Has anyone else noticed this?  Is there a solution for this?  I have looked at the JAWS settings for this but did not find anything.  Maybe I missed it.

 

Thanks,

Richard