Using win10 1809 and jfw2019, when I enter text in any text entry box jaws reads everything as it should, except it reads it as if I never entered the first letter in the first word, so thet when I type “wordpad” for example it says “ordpad”this happenes in all text entry boxes, even on websites.

Can someone please tell me how to fix this?

It only began after either the windows update or the jfw update, I think it was the win10 upgrade to 1809

 

Thanks

 

 

 

William Vandervest

Timelord09@...

 

There are none so blind as those who will not se “anon”e

 

For those who are willing or able to purchase a third-party add-on I highly recommend <http://www.leaseycentral.com>Leasey. One of its newest features is a capability which was offered by Window-Eyes but which is not available in JAWS unless you first enable navigation quick keys. With Lesey there are shortcut keys which can move the cursor to the next or previous spelling error as well as to the next or previous grammatical error. I realize that JAWS does offer this capability but I don't find it as useful. This is because you must first press insert-Z to enable navigation quick keys, press the desired hotkey and then you must press insert-Z to disable navigation quick keys so you can edit the document. Window-Eyes offered hotkeys which would move the cursor or caret to the next or previous error without the need to enable or disable browse mode and I never understood why JAWS never offered this capability. I requested these hotkeys to Brian Hartgen, one of the co-developers of Leasey, and he was kind enough to add it into the latest update, for which I am both thankful and very pleased.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com>WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 12/27/2018 2:15 AM, Nate Kile wrote:

Hello,

I use the alt/shift/L for spot checking documents, but on all of the computers in our computer lab, once in the spell checker dialog with F7, Insert/F7 will still announce the misspelled word that is targeted for correction still.

Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, TechVision
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: <https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.yourtechvision.com&;amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C058aa17668e2490a4cc108d66bcae86e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636814916553171446&amp;sdata=9aqvETSggNLk3msnsazdpsbGLV4J4fi2RQ9t%2B1ao9yA%3D&amp;reserved=0>https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.yourtechvision.com&;amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C058aa17668e2490a4cc108d66bcae86e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636814916553171446&amp;sdata=9aqvETSggNLk3msnsazdpsbGLV4J4fi2RQ9t%2B1ao9yA%3D&amp;reserved=0




On 12/26/2018 3:42 PM, Paul Sandoval wrote:

Hi everyone, I’m coming in to this a bit late, but here’s my findings.

Spell Check is unreliable in MS-Word 2016 via the F7 method. For some reason I have not seen the described behavior on PC’s running the 365 version of MS-Word.
I’ve advised that clients learn the alt shift L method as a backup anyway, but this has been a problem for at least a year.

I’ve spoken to Vispero, and they say it’s a Microsoft problem, and Microsoft says it’s a Jaws issue.

Not sure what is different in 365’s version that has this problem fixed.

Can anyone confirm?

On Dec 18, 2018, at 7:34 AM, Alan Robbins <mailto:arobbin2@nycap.rr.com><arobbin2@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

Thanks to all for a variety of ways to spell check in Word 2016. Preferred
the old way but technology moves on and we must too.

Al

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via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 1:37 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell check in Word 2016

Alt F7 takes you to each misspelled word. Issue with this method is that it
opens the context menu with suggested changes in it. That often works, but
you have to press Escape once or twice to get out and read the word in
context if it's not obvious what word it is. I think this is a Word
Command, not a JAWS one, so it probably works well for sighted users who can
see the misspelled word and are ready to see the list of suggestions.

The reason it works differently in Word from Outlook is that Outlook still
uses the old dialog box interface, whereas Word has gone to a ride side pane
display for spell check.

-----Original Message-----
From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io><main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:50 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell check in Word 2016

I don't like it either, but better than nothing. If you press enter on the
word JAWS finds, I think it takes you to it. I still use f7, then escape to
find the word, then try to figure it from there. Stinkin' annoying!
At 09:36 AM 12/17/2018, you wrote:

Ann,

Thanks, did not know about this. Better than nothing but it does not
take you to where you are in the document so you can ctrl arrow around
to see the context. It also does not spell the misspelled work out and
then give choices. Workable, yes, preferred to the normal behavior with F7,

no.

Thanks for sharing

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io><main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 8:13 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell check in Word 2016

In her Word 2016 text book, KathyAnn Murtha recommends either using the
JAWS command alt+shift+l to locate misspelled words, or insert+z to
invoke Word's quick keys, then the lletter m to locate misspelled
words. Once you have found a misspelleing, use the applications key to

suggest corrections.

At 06:36 PM 12/16/2018, you wrote:

Using Win 10 pro version 1803, and latest version of Jaws 2019 I do
not get full speech when doing a spell/grammar check in Word 2016.
When I hit F7 to do the spell check in an open Word document, I'm
given an option to change language and as I tab possible suggested
correctly spelled words. The problem is Jaws is not reading me the
word that is spelled wrong so I do not know what I'm replacing or if
I want to replace. Anyone found a work around for this?
This does not happen in outlook 2016, spell check works the way it is
supposed to.
Al

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Hello,

I use the alt/shift/L for spot checking documents, but on all of the computers in our computer lab, once in the spell checker dialog with F7, Insert/F7 will still announce the misspelled word that is targeted for correction still.

Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, TechVision
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.yourtechvision.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C058aa17668e2490a4cc108d66bcae86e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636814916553171446&amp;sdata=9aqvETSggNLk3msnsazdpsbGLV4J4fi2RQ9t%2B1ao9yA%3D&amp;reserved=0




On 12/26/2018 3:42 PM, Paul Sandoval wrote:

Hi everyone, I’m coming in to this a bit late, but here’s my findings.

Spell Check is unreliable in MS-Word 2016 via the F7 method. For some reason I have not seen the described behavior on PC’s running the 365 version of MS-Word.
I’ve advised that clients learn the alt shift L method as a backup anyway, but this has been a problem for at least a year.

I’ve spoken to Vispero, and they say it’s a Microsoft problem, and Microsoft says it’s a Jaws issue.

Not sure what is different in 365’s version that has this problem fixed.

Can anyone confirm?

On Dec 18, 2018, at 7:34 AM, Alan Robbins <arobbin2@...> wrote:

Thanks to all for a variety of ways to spell check in Word 2016. Preferred
the old way but technology moves on and we must too.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin
via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 1:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell check in Word 2016

Alt F7 takes you to each misspelled word. Issue with this method is that it
opens the context menu with suggested changes in it.  That often works, but
you have to press Escape once or twice to get out and read the word in
context if it's not obvious what word it is.  I think this is a Word
Command, not a JAWS one, so it probably works well for sighted users who can
see the misspelled word and are ready to see the list of suggestions.

The reason it works differently in Word from Outlook is that Outlook still
uses the old dialog box interface, whereas Word has gone to a ride side pane
display for spell check.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell check in Word 2016

I don't like it either, but better than nothing. If you press enter on the
word JAWS finds, I think it takes you to it.  I still use f7, then escape to
find the word, then try to figure it from there.  Stinkin' annoying!
At 09:36 AM 12/17/2018, you wrote:

Ann,

Thanks, did not know about this. Better than nothing but it does not
take you to where you are in the document so you can ctrl arrow around
to see the context. It also does not spell the misspelled work out and
then give choices. Workable, yes, preferred to the normal behavior with F7,

no.

Thanks for sharing

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 8:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell check in Word 2016

In her Word 2016 text book, KathyAnn Murtha recommends either using the
JAWS command alt+shift+l to locate misspelled words, or insert+z to
invoke Word's quick keys, then the lletter m to locate misspelled
words.  Once you have found a misspelleing, use the applications key to

suggest corrections.

  At 06:36 PM 12/16/2018, you wrote:

Using Win 10 pro version 1803, and latest version of Jaws 2019 I do
not get full speech when doing a spell/grammar check in Word 2016.
When I hit F7 to do the spell check in an open Word document, I'm
given an option to change language and as I tab possible suggested
correctly spelled words. The problem is Jaws is not reading me the
word that is spelled wrong so I do not know what I'm replacing or if
I want to replace. Anyone found a work around for this?
This does not happen in outlook 2016, spell check works the way it is
supposed to.
Al

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Bill:

I finally got around to downloading and installing the silenzio program for preventing my sound card in the new Windows 10 computer from going to sleep.

It seems to work flawlessly, so thanks much for the program link.

Hopefully, others who have this issue will benefit from it as well.

Tom Behler

Hi, Tom. There is a program called Silenzio which is supposed to keep the sound card from going to sleep.

Try downloading it from the following link.

Download Silenzio here

Bill:

It happens with Narrator too.

I’m not sure what to do from here.

Tom Behler

Hi, Tom. Try turning on Narrator, and see if you get the same delay through Narrator. If so, you might have one of the sound cards which go to sleep frequently, and need to be awoken by key presses.

Hello, everyone.

As some of you may remember, I’m continuing to set up a new Dell Windows 10 computer with Jaws.

The computer has an Intel I7 processor, 16 gigabytes of ram, a 12 gigabyte solid-state drive, and a 1 terabyte mechanical hard drive.

I mention this right from the start, because this computer should have plenty of horse power to work well with Jaws.

I have noticed that, when typing something, after I stop using the computer for 30 seconds or so, I do not get Jaws feedback until I press at least four or five keys.  In other words, there’s a considerable delay until Jaws starts speaking again.

I am thinking this is a Jaws issue, but am not totally sure.

I’m currently using Jaws 2018, and plan to upgrade to Jaws 2019 soon, although I’m a bit hesitant to do so right now because of other known problems with Jaws 2019 and MS Word.

Are there some settings I should look at to try to address this issue?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

Hi, Tom. There is a program called Silenzio which is supposed to keep the sound card from going to sleep.

Try downloading it from the following link.

Download Silenzio here

Bill:

It happens with Narrator too.

I’m not sure what to do from here.

Tom Behler

Hi, Tom. Try turning on Narrator, and see if you get the same delay through Narrator. If so, you might have one of the sound cards which go to sleep frequently, and need to be awoken by key presses.

Hello, everyone.

As some of you may remember, I’m continuing to set up a new Dell Windows 10 computer with Jaws.

The computer has an Intel I7 processor, 16 gigabytes of ram, a 12 gigabyte solid-state drive, and a 1 terabyte mechanical hard drive.

I mention this right from the start, because this computer should have plenty of horse power to work well with Jaws.

I have noticed that, when typing something, after I stop using the computer for 30 seconds or so, I do not get Jaws feedback until I press at least four or five keys.  In other words, there’s a considerable delay until Jaws starts speaking again.

I am thinking this is a Jaws issue, but am not totally sure.

I’m currently using Jaws 2018, and plan to upgrade to Jaws 2019 soon, although I’m a bit hesitant to do so right now because of other known problems with Jaws 2019 and MS Word.

Are there some settings I should look at to try to address this issue?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

I heard Droople works with Jaws. I havn’t tried it. In the near future I will. Did you try Brackets? I was having a hard time with it.

NoteTab Pro.  However, it too doesn’t get along as well with Jaws as Window-Eyes did.

This is the part of the forced conversion to Jaws that still irritates me.

Richard

Richard, What editor do you use?

Kevin thanks, but that is only an online validator where CSS HTML Validator is a professional program that is far more customizable.  I did not find anything specific to accessibility with the one you sent.

It would appear I either need to convince the program developer of CSS HTML Validator to hire a scripter or see if I can use NVDA or Narrator.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I do want to say that while I prefer a package like CSS HTML Validator, I am by no means a professional.  Web pages are a hobby and other than my own, I do one for a nonprofit on a volunteer basis, so I am nothing close to an expert and am pretty much self taught.

Richard

Richard, I looked into using the validator below. I’m not sure if this does the same as the one you were using. I’m just getting into web  development. I tried a few times and was able to get the least of error/warning messages. I know there is some other options which I have not used. This is put out by the W3C organization.

The URL is https://validator.w3.org

The name is “CSS HTML Validator” which is why I put that in the subject.

It checks for all kinds of html coding errors and has a setting particularly for accessibility.  I’ve used it since 2009.

Not as often in the last couple of years since having to switch to Jaws. 

With Jaws, not much works.  I cannot even simply read the contents of the file.  Let alone the highlighted area that shows up in a different panel with the errors or warnings or just messages with useful information.

If I switch to the touch cursor, I can read one line.  Not very useful.

With Window-Eyes, I could read everything and was able to define a window and hotkey to read the error messages.

Partly it is no doubt my ignorance of Jaws, but I think there are other issues Jaws has with this program and I’m not a scripter and will never become one, so was hoping someone out there had used this software and figured stuff out.

Fortunately I had gotten my own web sites fixed while I was using Window-eyes, but I’m now trying to give specific feedback to a company about their web site that is beyond awful and they seem to need some very specific examples of why their web site is awful as they think their stuff doesn’t stink….

Richard

What is the name of the validator you used? Is this to check your markup to provide any errors / warnings related to W3C standards?

Is anyone else using CSS HTML Validator?

I used it with Window-Eyes very successfully, but I cannot even get Jaws to read anything at all without someone sighted touching the mousepad.

If I activate the touch cursor, I can read one line, but that is it.

If anyone knows of any scripts, that would be great!

Richard

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

NoteTab Pro.  However, it too doesn’t get along as well with Jaws as Window-Eyes did.

This is the part of the forced conversion to Jaws that still irritates me.

Richard

Richard, What editor do you use?

Kevin thanks, but that is only an online validator where CSS HTML Validator is a professional program that is far more customizable.  I did not find anything specific to accessibility with the one you sent.

It would appear I either need to convince the program developer of CSS HTML Validator to hire a scripter or see if I can use NVDA or Narrator.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I do want to say that while I prefer a package like CSS HTML Validator, I am by no means a professional.  Web pages are a hobby and other than my own, I do one for a nonprofit on a volunteer basis, so I am nothing close to an expert and am pretty much self taught.

Richard

Richard, I looked into using the validator below. I’m not sure if this does the same as the one you were using. I’m just getting into web  development. I tried a few times and was able to get the least of error/warning messages. I know there is some other options which I have not used. This is put out by the W3C organization.

The URL is https://validator.w3.org

The name is “CSS HTML Validator” which is why I put that in the subject.

It checks for all kinds of html coding errors and has a setting particularly for accessibility.  I’ve used it since 2009.

Not as often in the last couple of years since having to switch to Jaws. 

With Jaws, not much works.  I cannot even simply read the contents of the file.  Let alone the highlighted area that shows up in a different panel with the errors or warnings or just messages with useful information.

If I switch to the touch cursor, I can read one line.  Not very useful.

With Window-Eyes, I could read everything and was able to define a window and hotkey to read the error messages.

Partly it is no doubt my ignorance of Jaws, but I think there are other issues Jaws has with this program and I’m not a scripter and will never become one, so was hoping someone out there had used this software and figured stuff out.

Fortunately I had gotten my own web sites fixed while I was using Window-eyes, but I’m now trying to give specific feedback to a company about their web site that is beyond awful and they seem to need some very specific examples of why their web site is awful as they think their stuff doesn’t stink….

Richard

What is the name of the validator you used? Is this to check your markup to provide any errors / warnings related to W3C standards?

Is anyone else using CSS HTML Validator?

I used it with Window-Eyes very successfully, but I cannot even get Jaws to read anything at all without someone sighted touching the mousepad.

If I activate the touch cursor, I can read one line, but that is it.

If anyone knows of any scripts, that would be great!

Richard

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

Richard, What editor do you use?

Kevin thanks, but that is only an online validator where CSS HTML Validator is a professional program that is far more customizable.  I did not find anything specific to accessibility with the one you sent.

It would appear I either need to convince the program developer of CSS HTML Validator to hire a scripter or see if I can use NVDA or Narrator.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I do want to say that while I prefer a package like CSS HTML Validator, I am by no means a professional.  Web pages are a hobby and other than my own, I do one for a nonprofit on a volunteer basis, so I am nothing close to an expert and am pretty much self taught.

Richard

Richard, I looked into using the validator below. I’m not sure if this does the same as the one you were using. I’m just getting into web  development. I tried a few times and was able to get the least of error/warning messages. I know there is some other options which I have not used. This is put out by the W3C organization.

The URL is https://validator.w3.org

The name is “CSS HTML Validator” which is why I put that in the subject.

It checks for all kinds of html coding errors and has a setting particularly for accessibility.  I’ve used it since 2009.

Not as often in the last couple of years since having to switch to Jaws. 

With Jaws, not much works.  I cannot even simply read the contents of the file.  Let alone the highlighted area that shows up in a different panel with the errors or warnings or just messages with useful information.

If I switch to the touch cursor, I can read one line.  Not very useful.

With Window-Eyes, I could read everything and was able to define a window and hotkey to read the error messages.

Partly it is no doubt my ignorance of Jaws, but I think there are other issues Jaws has with this program and I’m not a scripter and will never become one, so was hoping someone out there had used this software and figured stuff out.

Fortunately I had gotten my own web sites fixed while I was using Window-eyes, but I’m now trying to give specific feedback to a company about their web site that is beyond awful and they seem to need some very specific examples of why their web site is awful as they think their stuff doesn’t stink….

Richard

What is the name of the validator you used? Is this to check your markup to provide any errors / warnings related to W3C standards?

Is anyone else using CSS HTML Validator?

I used it with Window-Eyes very successfully, but I cannot even get Jaws to read anything at all without someone sighted touching the mousepad.

If I activate the touch cursor, I can read one line, but that is it.

If anyone knows of any scripts, that would be great!

Richard

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

Hi;

I am a new list member.  I received a pc running windows ten professional and I can use up to jaws 2019.  I plan to purchase some version of office and although they all theoretically work perfectly, I wonder which version is likely to give me the least grief and if there are any versions I should consider avoiding?

Many thanks

Richard

Kevin thanks, but that is only an online validator where CSS HTML Validator is a professional program that is far more customizable.  I did not find anything specific to accessibility with the one you sent.

It would appear I either need to convince the program developer of CSS HTML Validator to hire a scripter or see if I can use NVDA or Narrator.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I do want to say that while I prefer a package like CSS HTML Validator, I am by no means a professional.  Web pages are a hobby and other than my own, I do one for a nonprofit on a volunteer basis, so I am nothing close to an expert and am pretty much self taught.

Richard

Richard, I looked into using the validator below. I’m not sure if this does the same as the one you were using. I’m just getting into web  development. I tried a few times and was able to get the least of error/warning messages. I know there is some other options which I have not used. This is put out by the W3C organization.

The URL is https://validator.w3.org

The name is “CSS HTML Validator” which is why I put that in the subject.

It checks for all kinds of html coding errors and has a setting particularly for accessibility.  I’ve used it since 2009.

Not as often in the last couple of years since having to switch to Jaws. 

With Jaws, not much works.  I cannot even simply read the contents of the file.  Let alone the highlighted area that shows up in a different panel with the errors or warnings or just messages with useful information.

If I switch to the touch cursor, I can read one line.  Not very useful.

With Window-Eyes, I could read everything and was able to define a window and hotkey to read the error messages.

Partly it is no doubt my ignorance of Jaws, but I think there are other issues Jaws has with this program and I’m not a scripter and will never become one, so was hoping someone out there had used this software and figured stuff out.

Fortunately I had gotten my own web sites fixed while I was using Window-eyes, but I’m now trying to give specific feedback to a company about their web site that is beyond awful and they seem to need some very specific examples of why their web site is awful as they think their stuff doesn’t stink….

Richard

What is the name of the validator you used? Is this to check your markup to provide any errors / warnings related to W3C standards?

Is anyone else using CSS HTML Validator?

I used it with Window-Eyes very successfully, but I cannot even get Jaws to read anything at all without someone sighted touching the mousepad.

If I activate the touch cursor, I can read one line, but that is it.

If anyone knows of any scripts, that would be great!

Richard

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

Richard, I looked into using the validator below. I’m not sure if this does the same as the one you were using. I’m just getting into web  development. I tried a few times and was able to get the least of error/warning messages. I know there is some other options which I have not used. This is put out by the W3C organization.

The URL is https://validator.w3.org

The name is “CSS HTML Validator” which is why I put that in the subject.

It checks for all kinds of html coding errors and has a setting particularly for accessibility.  I’ve used it since 2009.

Not as often in the last couple of years since having to switch to Jaws. 

With Jaws, not much works.  I cannot even simply read the contents of the file.  Let alone the highlighted area that shows up in a different panel with the errors or warnings or just messages with useful information.

If I switch to the touch cursor, I can read one line.  Not very useful.

With Window-Eyes, I could read everything and was able to define a window and hotkey to read the error messages.

Partly it is no doubt my ignorance of Jaws, but I think there are other issues Jaws has with this program and I’m not a scripter and will never become one, so was hoping someone out there had used this software and figured stuff out.

Fortunately I had gotten my own web sites fixed while I was using Window-eyes, but I’m now trying to give specific feedback to a company about their web site that is beyond awful and they seem to need some very specific examples of why their web site is awful as they think their stuff doesn’t stink….

Richard

What is the name of the validator you used? Is this to check your markup to provide any errors / warnings related to W3C standards?

Is anyone else using CSS HTML Validator?

I used it with Window-Eyes very successfully, but I cannot even get Jaws to read anything at all without someone sighted touching the mousepad.

If I activate the touch cursor, I can read one line, but that is it.

If anyone knows of any scripts, that would be great!

Richard

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

The name is “CSS HTML Validator” which is why I put that in the subject.

It checks for all kinds of html coding errors and has a setting particularly for accessibility.  I’ve used it since 2009.

Not as often in the last couple of years since having to switch to Jaws. 

With Jaws, not much works.  I cannot even simply read the contents of the file.  Let alone the highlighted area that shows up in a different panel with the errors or warnings or just messages with useful information.

If I switch to the touch cursor, I can read one line.  Not very useful.

With Window-Eyes, I could read everything and was able to define a window and hotkey to read the error messages.

Partly it is no doubt my ignorance of Jaws, but I think there are other issues Jaws has with this program and I’m not a scripter and will never become one, so was hoping someone out there had used this software and figured stuff out.

Fortunately I had gotten my own web sites fixed while I was using Window-eyes, but I’m now trying to give specific feedback to a company about their web site that is beyond awful and they seem to need some very specific examples of why their web site is awful as they think their stuff doesn’t stink….

Richard

What is the name of the validator you used? Is this to check your markup to provide any errors / warnings related to W3C standards?

Is anyone else using CSS HTML Validator?

I used it with Window-Eyes very successfully, but I cannot even get Jaws to read anything at all without someone sighted touching the mousepad.

If I activate the touch cursor, I can read one line, but that is it.

If anyone knows of any scripts, that would be great!

Richard

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

What is the name of the validator you used? Is this to check your markup to provide any errors / warnings related to W3C standards?

Is anyone else using CSS HTML Validator?

I used it with Window-Eyes very successfully, but I cannot even get Jaws to read anything at all without someone sighted touching the mousepad.

If I activate the touch cursor, I can read one line, but that is it.

If anyone knows of any scripts, that would be great!

Richard

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

Is anyone else using CSS HTML Validator?

I used it with Window-Eyes very successfully, but I cannot even get Jaws to read anything at all without someone sighted touching the mousepad.

If I activate the touch cursor, I can read one line, but that is it.

If anyone knows of any scripts, that would be great!

Richard

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips