I also use the touch cursor because I find that it works better than
OCR in many situations.

On 11/9/18, Ben Humphreys <brhbrhbrh@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Keith,

One thing I've noticed about Windows 10 -- the Jaws cursor is
becoming increasingly less functional. I find I have to resort to
OCr more often than in the past.

But there's a lot to like too, such as a much-improved Narrator
(which works even when Jaws crashes).

I think the Ribbon-based Explorer is more cumbersome.

Also, a lot more Tabbing when in Windows configuration screens.

Nothing that's a deal killer, but I do miss how well the Jaws cursor
worked back in Windows 7 and XP days.

Ben

At 02:05 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:

Hi,

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now,
finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to
Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an
upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if
that would make a difference.

Using the latest JAWS.

Thanks in advance. Keith

So do you think they will lower their price for a SMA if you get no disk?
I bet Not.

On 11/21/2018 10:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

As I said, all I am asking is for Vispero to send out a one-question
survey to all their SMA holders and ask them: Do you want to continue
receiving a physical DVD?" and there should be two radio buttons given
for the answer, Yes and No. Those who answer Yes are flagged
appropriately in the Vispero database and will continue to receive their
DVD and those who say No will not. This really should not be so
difficult.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Michael
Munn
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2018 9:37 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: JAWS 2019 disc

I called Vispero yesterday and they said the shipment for the SMA
will be shipping Nextweek due to some delay.

I don't think it's a good idea to discontinue the Disk shippment. I
prefer receiving my SMA

via DVD.

You are right the waste of resource

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 10:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changed Bookmark Link In Firefox

Tom,

           Under Firefox, CTRL+SHIFT+B brings up the bookmarks manager (which, oddly enough, has the window title "Library").  The structure of the Bookmark Manager is very, very much like File Explorer.

           If you don't happen to open with it in the "From Internet Explorer" list of bookmarks, then Shift+Tab back over to the tree view, get yourself to that group, then tab back over in to the actual bookmarks list for that group.  Locate the bookmark for the page you need to edit.  Since I have no idea what you've called it or how it's stored I can't get more specific about what to search for.  Once you've landed on it, you can then hit Tab and start moving through the edit boxes for a bookmark:

1. Name
2. Location (the URL itself)
3. Tags
4. Keyword

I have never bothered with tags or keyword.  You will, of course, want to select all in the Location edit box and paste in the corrected URL.  There is no save button.  Just make sure to tab out of the field you've edited to make sure it "sticks" and you can then ALT+F4 to close the Bookmarks Manager window.
--

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   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

Hello and Happy Thanksgiving:

Before I contact SF, does anyone on the list know if SF will be
mailing out JAWS 2019 program discs to persons who have updates coming
on their SMAs?

Thanks,

John Doering

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Hi!

I use a Lenovo L440, and I really like it. The one thing it lacks is the
applications key. However, below are the steps to add this functionality to
the laptop's printscreen key; which in its native functionality I don't
think I have ever needed to use. This is from an email Ann wrote some time
ago on this list. And, I suspect this works on any computer. So, this is a
really easy and productive thing to do:

1. In any application (I used Eudora) press insert+0 to open the script
manager.
2. Press control+shift+d to get to the default script manager.
3. Go to the bottom of the file, so it's easy to find and delete if you
decide you don't like it.).
4. Type control+e to begin a new script.
5. Give it a name, no spaces: ApplicationsKey.
6. Tab. Can be attached to key, check it.
7. Tab, and type a synopsis
8. Tab again and type a fuller description.
9. Tab, and fill in a category (I chose system)
10. Tab. Assign to hotkey. (I pressed print screen).
11. Tab. Okay.
12. Control+s to compile.

Now you have this:

Script ApplicationsKey ()



EndScript

Which won't do a thing. You need to add the command {shift+f10} and compile
again.

Now it looks like this:

Script ApplicationsKey ()

{shift+f10}

EndScript
Close the script manager and test. If it doesn't work the way you want,
delete it.

HTH,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 3:56 AM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Evaluating laptop keyboards for jaws functionality

Hi All,

How do jaws users evaluate a keyboard on a laptop you are considering?
I'm talking about the presence (or absence) of keys that are necessary to
the functionality of jaws commands.

I received a new Lenovo Ideapad and was dismayed to realize that the
keyboard is missing not only the applications key but also the dedicated
home, end, page up and page down keys. Strangely, my old Lenovo, the one I
am typing this message on, has all these keys so it never occurred to me to
try and verify that the new one would also.
But now I'm wondering, how do you check the keyboard specs when ordering a
new laptop that you haven't actually had your hands on?

Before someone suggests an external keyboard let me say that I require the
portability of a laptop that doesn't necessitate dragging around an extra
keyboard. I also don't really want to remap a bunch of keys to accomplish
everyday functions.

So what do people suggest? Do I really have to drag myself over to
microcenter or some other store so I can actually touch the laptop I'm
considering? Is there another way?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Kim

--
Kimberly

So do you think they will lower their price for a SMA if you get no disk?
I bet Not.

On 11/21/2018 10:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

As I said, all I am asking is for Vispero to send out a one-question
survey to all their SMA holders and ask them: Do you want to continue
receiving a physical DVD?" and there should be two radio buttons
given for the answer, Yes and No. Those who answer Yes are flagged
appropriately in the Vispero database and will continue to receive
their DVD and those who say No will not. This really should not be so
difficult.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Michael Munn
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2018 9:37 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: JAWS 2019 disc

I called Vispero yesterday and they said the shipment for the SMA
will be shipping Nextweek due to some delay.

I don't think it's a good idea to discontinue the Disk shippment. I
prefer receiving my SMA

via DVD.

You are right the waste of resource

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving

As I said, all I am asking is for Vispero to send out a one-question
survey to all their SMA holders and ask them: Do you want to continue
receiving a physical DVD?" and there should be two radio buttons given
for the answer, Yes and No. Those who answer Yes are flagged
appropriately in the Vispero database and will continue to receive their
DVD and those who say No will not. This really should not be so difficult.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Michael
Munn
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2018 9:37 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: JAWS 2019 disc

I called Vispero yesterday and they said the shipment for the SMA
will be shipping Nextweek due to some delay.

I don't think it's a good idea to discontinue the Disk shippment. I
prefer receiving my SMA

via DVD.

You are right the waste of resource

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving

So do you think they will lower their price for a SMA if you get no disk? I bet Not.

On 11/21/2018 10:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

As I said, all I am asking is for Vispero to send out a one-question survey to all their SMA holders and ask them: Do you want to continue receiving a physical DVD?" and there should be two radio buttons given for the answer, Yes and No. Those who answer Yes are flagged appropriately in the Vispero database and will continue to receive their DVD and those who say No will not. This really should not be so difficult.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Michael Munn
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2018 9:37 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: JAWS 2019 disc

I called Vispero yesterday and they said the shipment for the SMA
will be shipping Nextweek due to some delay.

I don't think it's a good idea to discontinue the Disk shippment. I prefer receiving my SMA

via DVD.

You are right the waste of resource

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving

As I said, all I am asking is for Vispero to send out a one-question survey to all their SMA holders and ask them: Do you want to continue receiving a physical DVD?" and there should be two radio buttons given for the answer, Yes and No. Those who answer Yes are flagged appropriately in the Vispero database and will continue to receive their DVD and those who say No will not. This really should not be so difficult.
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Michael Munn
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2018 9:37 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: JAWS 2019 disc
I called Vispero yesterday and they said the shipment for the SMA
will be shipping Nextweek due to some delay.
I don't think it's a good idea to discontinue the Disk shippment. I prefer receiving my SMA
via DVD.
You are right  the waste of resource
Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 7:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changed Bookmark Link In Firefox

Tom,

          Just reporting back that the same page, for Grand Rapids, Michigan, opens in all four of the browsers I listed earlier and with the same format and information.

           Heaven only knows how that glitch entered into the URL itself in your Firefox bookmarks.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

Brian:

Here is the link that comes up ok in Internet Explorer 11, but differently in Firefox.

It is a public link, so no worries on that score.

https://www.weather.gov/grr/

As you check out that link, you can learn about the winter-like weather we already are having in November here in Western Lower Michigan.

Tom Behler

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 6:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changed Bookmark Link In Firefox

Not seeing, literally, what's happening it's difficult to say.

That being said, as Internet Explorer gets creakier (and it has been creaky for quite a while and is gaining creaks with increasing speed) it often behaves somewhat differently than the flagship web browsers do.

If the link is not private in any way, please post it.  I'll take a look at what occurs in Firefox, Chrome, Edge, and IE.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 6:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changed Bookmark Link In Firefox

Not seeing, literally, what's happening it's difficult to say.

That being said, as Internet Explorer gets creakier (and it has been creaky for quite a while and is gaining creaks with increasing speed) it often behaves somewhat differently than the flagship web browsers do.

If the link is not private in any way, please post it.  I'll take a look at what occurs in Firefox, Chrome, Edge, and IE.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore