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moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Mike B
 

I run a little program that automatically maximizes whatever screen / window that comes into focus and since I installed this little goodie I haven't had this focus loss problem.  Stascom info below:
 
 
For more detailed information, here is the link to the Stascom page of the website.
 
 
Download Link:
 
Hotkeys:
Control+1, Contact manager
Control+2, Reminder Manager
Control+3, Windows Applications and settings
Control+4, Password Generator
Control+5, Word Count for Selected Text
Control+6, Day of the Week
Control+7, Configuration manager
Control+8, Exclude Window Title from maximizing
Control+9, Generate Configuration report
control+\, Program Dashboard
Control+Windows+Up or Down arrow, adjust computer volume.
 
Just a final note.
This little program has many great features, and it works with any screen reader.
Even though I do like the reminders, password generator, and other features, my favorites are:
*  Maximizing Windows:  I like the fact that all of my program windows will automatically be maximized.  This helps from any basic problems with my screen
reader.
* Muting Volume is disabled with minimum volume being required.  Many times I accidently hit the mute key on my function key row muting my volume and would
always forget which key it was exactly.  Now with this feature, I do not have to worry about this ever happening!
*  Control System Volume on the fly.  Being able to turn up or down the system volume with a hotkey is so convenient and makes adjusting the system volume
quick and easy.
*  Reporting Battery Status.  Since I use a laptop, letting me know what my battery status is on a regular basis helps alert me when I should plug in my
laptop to charge.
* Time Announcement.  I have mine set to announce every 15 minutes.  This just helps me keep up with the time and helps keep me on task.
 
Of coarse, keep in mind that you can turn off any of the features within the configuration manager.
 
Enjoy,
 
 
Take care and stay safe.  Mike.
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2020 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Yes, seems to be worse in 2021 beta although I will wait til final release
before making an actual comparison.  This has been a JAWS issue for some
versions now. 

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

I have more focus issues with 2021 also.  We should both make bug reports so
they know they need to fix it!
At 08:01 AM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
>To my fellow subscribers.
>Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
>I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
>Many thanks.
>Ron
>
>In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and
>or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
>Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
>Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS
>Certified as well
>
>
>
>
>












moderated Re: Width of cell in Excel

Ann Byrne
 

If the column is selected, alt-h-o-i will adjust to the widest cell; if not, it will adjust the width to that of the current cell, whether or not there are larger cells.

At 01:24 PM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
in addition, alt h o i will automatically adjust the width of a column of cells to the longest width according to the number of characters.


On 10/6/2020 2:04 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
The default width for a cell is 8.11 characters. if there is more text, it spills over to the right into the next cell(s). There is a JAWS setting, cell text visibility I think, that when checked will alert when the text goes into additional space. Alt+h, o, w will tell you how wide a cell is, and allow you to change the width.
At 12:37 PM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
Actually, how much text Will fit in a cell? Iâ?Tm told if you put too much text in a cell it just plain doesnâ?Tt look right

On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Zel Iscel <zel@...> wrote:

Cheers Anne, Iâ?Tll try that next time.

Zel Iscel
Inclusive World
Principle Consultant

Mobile: +61 0413813885
Email: zel@...

On 23 Sep 2020, at 5:14 am, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

Often if the screen is restored, not
maximized, the commands don't work as advertised.
At 02:38 PM 9/22/2020, you wrote:

For automatic row height adjustment, it's alt h then o then a.

To manually adjust row height, it's alt h then o then h.

For automatic column width, it's alt h then o then i.

To manually adjust column width, it's alt h then o then w.



My Jaws versions of 2018 and 2019 don't
always respond to these commands so I press alt h then tab to cells format then press enter, and I can choose between row height, column width,etc with the up and down arrows. Or sometimes I'll restart Jaws, but that doesn't always help either.



Hope that helps.



Zel



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Zel Iscel

Disability Specialist

Inclusive World

Mobile: 0413813885

Email: <mailto:zel@...>zel@...



From: main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2020 3:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel



Well, it seems to be less obvious these days.

I'll post a link to a Microsoft support
page below, but one way to get there is to press alt+q, type cell width, arrow down to cell width and hit enter.



Maybe there is a more direct way.



Here is the page I got from searching the web:

<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46>https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the
bridge over which he must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:48 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Width of cell in Excel





Hello, I'm using most recent versions of
windows10 and Jaws2020. I'm also using Office 2016. I want to change the width of a cell. When I got to the spot to change the width it said it was 8.11. Is that the number of characters that can fit in the cell?

Then to change the width of a entire
column, I would have to highlight the column and then make the size of the cell wider. Cheers, Kevin











.



moderated Re: Width of cell in Excel

 

Brian,



How much text will fit in a cell depends on the width of the column in which the cell resides. I don't believe Excel allows setting the width of individual cells. How text which takes more space than the width of its column appears will depend on what the cell to its immediate right has in it. If that cell is blank, the too wide text will spill over and display in the adjacent cell. If the adjacent cell is not blank, the too wide text will be cut off and not displayed even though it is still in the cell.



You can change the format of individual cells to set them to wrap text when the text they contain is too wide to fit in the width of their column. This will cause the row they are in to expand in height in order to display the wrapped text. To do this, place focus in the cell you wish to have the text wrapped or select an entire column or a group of cells for which you want to wrap text and then:



1. Press ctrl + 1 to open the format dialog box.

2. Press ctrl + tab to move to the alignment tab in the format dialog box.

3. Press tab until you reach the wrap text checkbox and press space to check it.

4. Press tab until you reach the Ok button and press enter.



Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian albriton
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel



Actually, how much text Will fit in a cell? I m told if you put too much text in a cell it just plain doesn t look right



On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Zel Iscel < <mailto:zel@...> zel@...> wrote:
Cheers Anne, I ll try that next time.
Zel Iscel
Inclusive World
Principle Consultant
Mobile: +61 0413813885
Email: <mailto:zel@...> zel@...
On 23 Sep 2020, at 5:14 am, Ann Byrne < <mailto:annakb@...> annakb@...> wrote:
?Often if the screen is restored, not maximized, the commands don't work as advertised.
At 02:38 PM 9/22/2020, you wrote:
For automatic row height adjustment, it's alt h then o then a.
To manually adjust row height, it's alt h then o then h.
For automatic column width, it's alt h then o then i.
To manually adjust column width, it's alt h then o then w.
My Jaws versions of 2018 and 2019 don't always respond to these commands so I press alt h then tab to cells format then press enter, and I can choose between row height, column width,etc with the up and down arrows. Or sometimes I'll restart Jaws, but that doesn't always help either.
Hope that helps.
Zel
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Zel Iscel
Disability Specialist
Inclusive World
Mobile: 0413813885
Email: < <mailto:zel@...> mailto:zel@...> <mailto:zel@...> zel@...
From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io < <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2020 3:10 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel
Well, it seems to be less obvious these days.
I'll post a link to a Microsoft support page below, but one way to get there is to press alt+q, type cell width, arrow down to cell width and hit enter.
Maybe there is a more direct way.
Here is the page I got from searching the web:
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-
and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46> <https://support> https://support.
microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72
f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: < <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io
<< <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin
meyers
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:48 AM
To: < <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Width of cell in Excel
Hello, I'm using most recent versions of windows10 and Jaws2020. I'm also using Office 2016. I want to change the width of a cell. When I got to the spot to change the width it said it was 8.11. Is that the number of characters that can fit in the cell?
Then to change the width of a entire column, I would have to
highlight the column and then make the size of the cell wider.
Cheers, Kevin


moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Jessica D
 

Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020 with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica

On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant <hank_w@...> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well

















moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hank William Merchant
 

Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well


moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Adrian Spratt
 

You make a good distinction. The problem isn't the notification, but the fact that it might be necessary.

In my case, I don't get it often, and usually I can recognize something I did to cause it, such as trying to accomplish too much too fast.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

That item is unchecked for me, but I still get the announcement at times using Jaws 2021 beta.

I'm not sure it is a bug to be told Jaws is lost, that is a good feature; However, the fact that Jaws loses focus as much as it does is a bug in my opinion.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 6:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

You could press insert-V for the JAWS options dialog, type "focus"
without the quotes and ensure that focus loss announcement is not checked. As Jessica asked giving us more info might help.
Are you using the latest build of JAWS 2020 from August?
What version of Windows are you using?
If Windows 10 which build or version of Win10? You could type "winver"
in the run dialog to get this information.
Does this happen in a particular program?

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidgoldfield.org%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd8c5b7cdd6964ef0c5d308d869fba73c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637375876839674603&amp;sdata=yNuRGU0HipVqAXrgMcEQXDNmnpteVRFxHf%2FQ9%2FrEwsI%3D&amp;reserved=0

On 10/6/2020 9:19 AM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and
NIMS Certified as well













moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Dan Longmore
 

Jessica,
I am glad you are not experiencing this issue. For those of us who do it
remains quite annoying . 2020 version was better than 2019 but so far with
the beta we have gone backwards. Running latest versions of JAWS and
Windows.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hello,

I've never seen jaws do this in more recent versions, including the August
update of 2020, which is currently ruoning on my elBraille, as I type.

I believe this issue hasn't occurred since jaws 16.

Thanks,

Jessica

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Yes, seems to be worse in 2021 beta although I will wait til final release
before making an actual comparison. This has been a JAWS issue for some
versions now.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

I have more focus issues with 2021 also. We should both make bug reports so
they know they need to fix it!
At 08:01 AM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and
or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS
Certified as well





moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Jessica D
 

Hello,

I've never seen jaws do this in more recent versions, including the August
update of 2020, which is currently ruoning on my elBraille, as I type.

I believe this issue hasn't occurred since jaws 16.

Thanks,

Jessica

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Yes, seems to be worse in 2021 beta although I will wait til final release
before making an actual comparison. This has been a JAWS issue for some
versions now.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

I have more focus issues with 2021 also. We should both make bug reports so
they know they need to fix it!
At 08:01 AM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and
or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS
Certified as well





moderated Re: Width of cell in Excel

NFB Lab 4
 

You must select the column before doing this, otherwise it will adjust to the width of the current cell
Thom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2020 2:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel

in addition, alt h o i will automatically adjust the width of a column of cells to the longest width according to the number of characters.


On 10/6/2020 2:04 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
The default width for a cell is 8.11 characters. if there is more text,
it spills over to the right into the next cell(s). There is a JAWS
setting, cell text visibility I think, that when checked will alert when
the text goes into additional space. Alt+h, o, w will tell you how wide
a cell is, and allow you to change the width.
At 12:37 PM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
Actually, how much text Will fit in a cell? Iâ?Tm told if you put too
much text in a cell it just plain doesnâ?Tt look right

On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Zel Iscel <zel@...>
wrote:

Cheers Anne, Iâ?Tll try that next time.

Zel Iscel
Inclusive World
Principle Consultant

Mobile: +61 0413813885
Email: zel@...

On 23 Sep 2020, at 5:14 am, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

Often if the screen is restored, not maximized, the commands
don't work as advertised.
At 02:38 PM 9/22/2020, you wrote:

For automatic row height adjustment, it's alt h then o then a.

To manually adjust row height, it's alt h then o then h.

For automatic column width, it's alt h then o then i.

To manually adjust column width, it's alt h then o then w.



My Jaws versions of 2018 and 2019 don't always respond to these
commands so I press alt h then tab to cells format then press enter,
and I can choose between row height, column width,etc with the up and
down arrows. Or sometimes I'll restart Jaws, but that doesn't always
help either.



Hope that helps.



Zel



image001.jpg



Zel Iscel

Disability Specialist

Inclusive World

Mobile: 0413813885

Email: <mailto:zel@...>zel@...



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2020 3:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel



Well, it seems to be less obvious these days.

I'll post a link to a Microsoft support page below, but one way to
get there is to press alt+q, type cell width, arrow down to cell width
and hit enter.



Maybe there is a more direct way.



Here is the page I got from searching the web:

<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46>https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46








Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he
must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle
of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:48 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Width of cell in Excel





Hello, I'm using most recent versions of windows10 and Jaws2020.
I'm also using Office 2016. I want to change the width of a cell. When
I got to the spot to change the width it said it was 8.11. Is that the
number of characters that can fit in the cell?

Then to change the width of a entire column, I would have to
highlight the column and then make the size of the cell wider. Cheers,
Kevin















.


moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Dan Longmore
 

Yes, seems to be worse in 2021 beta although I will wait til final release
before making an actual comparison. This has been a JAWS issue for some
versions now.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

I have more focus issues with 2021 also. We should both make bug reports so
they know they need to fix it!
At 08:01 AM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and
or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS
Certified as well





moderated Re: Width of cell in Excel

Mario
 

in addition, alt h o i will automatically adjust the width of a column of cells to the longest width according to the number of characters.

On 10/6/2020 2:04 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
The default width for a cell is 8.11 characters.  if there is more text, it spills over to the right into the next cell(s).  There is a JAWS setting, cell text visibility I think, that when checked will alert when the text goes into additional space.  Alt+h, o, w will tell you how wide a cell is, and allow you to change the width.
At 12:37 PM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
Actually, how much text Will fit in a cell? Iâ?Tm told if you put too much text in a cell it just plain doesnâ?Tt look right

On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Zel Iscel <zel@...>
wrote:

Cheers Anne, Iâ?Tll try that next time.

Zel Iscel
Inclusive World
Principle Consultant

Mobile: +61 0413813885
Email: zel@...

On 23 Sep 2020, at 5:14 am, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

Often if the screen is restored, not maximized, the commands
don't work as advertised.
At 02:38 PM 9/22/2020, you wrote:

For automatic row height adjustment, it's alt h then o then a.

To manually adjust row height, it's alt h then o then h.

For automatic column width, it's alt h then o then i.

To manually adjust column width, it's alt h then o then w.



My Jaws versions of 2018 and 2019 don't always respond to these
commands so I press alt h then tab to cells format then press enter, and I can choose between row height, column width,etc with the up and down arrows. Or sometimes I'll restart Jaws, but that doesn't always help either.



Hope that helps.



Zel



image001.jpg



Zel Iscel

Disability Specialist

Inclusive World

Mobile: 0413813885

Email: <mailto:zel@...>zel@...



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2020 3:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel



Well, it seems to be less obvious these days.

I'll post a link to a Microsoft support page below, but one way to
get there is to press alt+q, type cell width, arrow down to cell width and hit enter.



Maybe there is a more direct way.



Here is the page I got from searching the web:

<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46>https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he
must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:48 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Width of cell in Excel





Hello, I'm using most recent versions of windows10 and Jaws2020.
I'm also using Office 2016. I want to change the width of a cell. When I got to the spot to change the width it said it was 8.11. Is that the number of characters that can fit in the cell?

Then to change the width of a entire column, I would have to
highlight the column and then make the size of the cell wider. Cheers, Kevin










.


moderated Re: Width of cell in Excel

Milton Ota
 

If you need a wider cell in a spreadsheet an option is to merge cells and you don't have to worry about word wrap. Generally I have found that if you are using the default cells across a row, you can get eight cells in portrate mode on an 8.5 by 11 inch sheet of paper.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of brian albriton
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel

Actually, how much text Will fit in a cell? I’m told if you put too much text in a cell it just plain doesn’t look right

On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Zel Iscel <zel@...> wrote:

Cheers Anne, I’ll try that next time.

Zel Iscel
Inclusive World
Principle Consultant

Mobile: +61 0413813885
Email: zel@...

On 23 Sep 2020, at 5:14 am, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

Often if the screen is restored, not maximized, the commands don't work as advertised.
At 02:38 PM 9/22/2020, you wrote:

For automatic row height adjustment, it's alt h then o then a.

To manually adjust row height, it's alt h then o then h.

For automatic column width, it's alt h then o then i.

To manually adjust column width, it's alt h then o then w.



My Jaws versions of 2018 and 2019 don't always respond to these commands so I press alt h then tab to cells format then press enter, and I can choose between row height, column width,etc with the up and down arrows. Or sometimes I'll restart Jaws, but that doesn't always help either.



Hope that helps.



Zel



image001.jpg



Zel Iscel

Disability Specialist

Inclusive World

Mobile: 0413813885

Email: <mailto:zel@...>zel@...



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2020 3:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel



Well, it seems to be less obvious these days.

I'll post a link to a Microsoft support page below, but one way to get there is to press alt+q, type cell width, arrow down to cell width and hit enter.



Maybe there is a more direct way.



Here is the page I got from searching the web:

<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-
and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46>https://support.
microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72
f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin
meyers
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:48 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Width of cell in Excel





Hello, I'm using most recent versions of windows10 and Jaws2020. I'm also using Office 2016. I want to change the width of a cell. When I got to the spot to change the width it said it was 8.11. Is that the number of characters that can fit in the cell?

Then to change the width of a entire column, I would have to
highlight the column and then make the size of the cell wider.
Cheers, Kevin









moderated Re: Width of cell in Excel

Ann Byrne
 

The default width for a cell is 8.11 characters. if there is more text, it spills over to the right into the next cell(s). There is a JAWS setting, cell text visibility I think, that when checked will alert when the text goes into additional space. Alt+h, o, w will tell you how wide a cell is, and allow you to change the width.

At 12:37 PM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
Actually, how much text Will fit in a cell? I’m told if you put too much text in a cell it just plain doesn’t look right

On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Zel Iscel <zel@...> wrote:

Cheers Anne, I’ll try that next time.

Zel Iscel
Inclusive World
Principle Consultant

Mobile: +61 0413813885
Email: zel@...

On 23 Sep 2020, at 5:14 am, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

Often if the screen is restored, not
maximized, the commands don't work as advertised.
At 02:38 PM 9/22/2020, you wrote:

For automatic row height adjustment, it's alt h then o then a.

To manually adjust row height, it's alt h then o then h.

For automatic column width, it's alt h then o then i.

To manually adjust column width, it's alt h then o then w.



My Jaws versions of 2018 and 2019 don't
always respond to these commands so I press alt h then tab to cells format then press enter, and I can choose between row height, column width,etc with the up and down arrows. Or sometimes I'll restart Jaws, but that doesn't always help either.



Hope that helps.



Zel



image001.jpg



Zel Iscel

Disability Specialist

Inclusive World

Mobile: 0413813885

Email: <mailto:zel@...>zel@...



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2020 3:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel



Well, it seems to be less obvious these days.

I'll post a link to a Microsoft support
page below, but one way to get there is to press alt+q, type cell width, arrow down to cell width and hit enter.



Maybe there is a more direct way.



Here is the page I got from searching the web:

<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46>https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the
bridge over which he must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:48 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Width of cell in Excel





Hello, I'm using most recent versions of
windows10 and Jaws2020. I'm also using Office 2016. I want to change the width of a cell. When I got to the spot to change the width it said it was 8.11. Is that the number of characters that can fit in the cell?

Then to change the width of a entire
column, I would have to highlight the column and then make the size of the cell wider. Cheers, Kevin











moderated Re: Width of cell in Excel

Mario
 

depends on the width of the cell.

On 10/6/2020 1:37 PM, brian albriton wrote:
Actually, how much text Will fit in a cell? I’m told if you put too much text in a cell it just plain doesn’t look right

On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Zel Iscel <zel@...> wrote:

Cheers Anne, I’ll try that next time.

Zel Iscel
Inclusive World
Principle Consultant

Mobile: +61 0413813885
Email: zel@...

On 23 Sep 2020, at 5:14 am, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

Often if the screen is restored, not maximized, the commands don't work as advertised.
At 02:38 PM 9/22/2020, you wrote:

For automatic row height adjustment, it's alt h then o then a.

To manually adjust row height, it's alt h then o then h.

For automatic column width, it's alt h then o then i.

To manually adjust column width, it's alt h then o then w.



My Jaws versions of 2018 and 2019 don't always respond to these commands so I press alt h then tab to cells format then press enter, and I can choose between row height, column width,etc with the up and down arrows. Or sometimes I'll restart Jaws, but that doesn't always help either.



Hope that helps.



Zel



image001.jpg



Zel Iscel

Disability Specialist

Inclusive World

Mobile: 0413813885

Email: <mailto:zel@...>zel@...



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2020 3:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel



Well, it seems to be less obvious these days.

I'll post a link to a Microsoft support page below, but one way to get there is to press alt+q, type cell width, arrow down to cell width and hit enter.



Maybe there is a more direct way.



Here is the page I got from searching the web:

<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46>https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:48 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Width of cell in Excel





Hello, I'm using most recent versions of windows10 and Jaws2020. I'm also using Office 2016. I want to change the width of a cell. When I got to the spot to change the width it said it was 8.11. Is that the number of characters that can fit in the cell?

Then to change the width of a entire column, I would have to highlight the column and then make the size of the cell wider. Cheers, Kevin








.


moderated Re: Width of cell in Excel

brian albriton
 

Actually, how much text Will fit in a cell? I’m told if you put too much text in a cell it just plain doesn’t look right

On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Zel Iscel <zel@...> wrote:

Cheers Anne, I’ll try that next time.

Zel Iscel
Inclusive World
Principle Consultant

Mobile: +61 0413813885
Email: zel@...

On 23 Sep 2020, at 5:14 am, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

Often if the screen is restored, not maximized, the commands don't work as advertised.
At 02:38 PM 9/22/2020, you wrote:

For automatic row height adjustment, it's alt h then o then a.

To manually adjust row height, it's alt h then o then h.

For automatic column width, it's alt h then o then i.

To manually adjust column width, it's alt h then o then w.



My Jaws versions of 2018 and 2019 don't always respond to these commands so I press alt h then tab to cells format then press enter, and I can choose between row height, column width,etc with the up and down arrows. Or sometimes I'll restart Jaws, but that doesn't always help either.



Hope that helps.



Zel



image001.jpg



Zel Iscel

Disability Specialist

Inclusive World

Mobile: 0413813885

Email: <mailto:zel@...>zel@...



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2020 3:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel



Well, it seems to be less obvious these days.

I'll post a link to a Microsoft support page below, but one way to get there is to press alt+q, type cell width, arrow down to cell width and hit enter.



Maybe there is a more direct way.



Here is the page I got from searching the web:

<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46>https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:48 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Width of cell in Excel





Hello, I'm using most recent versions of windows10 and Jaws2020. I'm also using Office 2016. I want to change the width of a cell. When I got to the spot to change the width it said it was 8.11. Is that the number of characters that can fit in the cell?

Then to change the width of a entire column, I would have to highlight the column and then make the size of the cell wider. Cheers, Kevin









moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Richard Turner
 

That item is unchecked for me, but I still get the announcement at times using Jaws 2021 beta.

I'm not sure it is a bug to be told Jaws is lost, that is a good feature; However, the fact that Jaws loses focus as much as it does is a bug in my opinion.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 6:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

You could press insert-V for the JAWS options dialog, type "focus"
without the quotes and ensure that focus loss announcement is not checked. As Jessica asked giving us more info might help.
Are you using the latest build of JAWS 2020 from August?
What version of Windows are you using?
If Windows 10 which build or version of Win10? You could type "winver"
in the run dialog to get this information.
Does this happen in a particular program?

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidgoldfield.org%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd8c5b7cdd6964ef0c5d308d869fba73c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637375876839674603&amp;sdata=yNuRGU0HipVqAXrgMcEQXDNmnpteVRFxHf%2FQ9%2FrEwsI%3D&amp;reserved=0

On 10/6/2020 9:19 AM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and
NIMS Certified as well













moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Ann Byrne
 

I have more focus issues with 2021 also. We should both make bug reports so they know they need to fix it!

At 08:01 AM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From
Ron Kolesar
Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station
And
Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG
Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well





moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

David Goldfield
 

You could press insert-V for the JAWS options dialog, type "focus" without the quotes and ensure that focus loss announcement is not checked. As Jessica asked giving us more info might help.
Are you using the latest build of JAWS 2020 from August?
What version of Windows are you using?
If Windows 10 which build or version of Win10? You could type "winver" in the run dialog to get this information.
Does this happen in a particular program?

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 10/6/2020 9:19 AM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well












moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Jessica D
 

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well


moderated Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Ron Kolesar
 

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From
Ron Kolesar
Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station
And
Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG
Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well