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moderated Re: Selecting All Question

Mark Arnold ABG
 

Yes, this occurs only in my Outlook 365 Trash Folder.  The select all command works just as it should in other folders containing files…

 

Mark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2021 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Selecting All Question

 

He isn’t talking about files, but email messages in the trash/deleted folder in Outlook.

I can confirm his findings.

If I select all in a folder on my hard drive, Jaws speaks everything, but not so in the deleted folder in Outlook.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 6:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Selecting All Question

 

I am using 2019 and Windows 10.

Control a says “selected all” and then starts reading all the file names, so it sounds like a setting got changed.

 

HTH,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 8:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Selecting All Question

 

That’s true.

I personally just assume control+a always selects all.

You may want to contact tech support directly about this since while they may monitor this list, it helps to contact them directly to make sure they hear you.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 6:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Selecting All Question

 

List,

 

When in Outlook 365 and in the list of emails in my Trash Folder, I often select all and permanently delete them.  One problem, when I use the Control plus A command to select all, JAWS does not speak anything to let me know they are selected.  I have enough residual vision to see that they are selected but I would certainly feel better if JAWS reinforced this.  I should say that I am using the latest 2021 release of JAWS and Windows 10.

 

Thanks in advance for any assistance,

Mark

 


moderated Re: Selecting All Question

Richard Turner
 

He isn’t talking about files, but email messages in the trash/deleted folder in Outlook.

I can confirm his findings.

If I select all in a folder on my hard drive, Jaws speaks everything, but not so in the deleted folder in Outlook.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 6:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Selecting All Question

 

I am using 2019 and Windows 10.

Control a says “selected all” and then starts reading all the file names, so it sounds like a setting got changed.

 

HTH,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 8:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Selecting All Question

 

That’s true.

I personally just assume control+a always selects all.

You may want to contact tech support directly about this since while they may monitor this list, it helps to contact them directly to make sure they hear you.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 6:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Selecting All Question

 

List,

 

When in Outlook 365 and in the list of emails in my Trash Folder, I often select all and permanently delete them.  One problem, when I use the Control plus A command to select all, JAWS does not speak anything to let me know they are selected.  I have enough residual vision to see that they are selected but I would certainly feel better if JAWS reinforced this.  I should say that I am using the latest 2021 release of JAWS and Windows 10.

 

Thanks in advance for any assistance,

Mark

 


moderated Re: Selecting All Question

John Doering
 

I am using 2019 and Windows 10.

Control a says “selected all” and then starts reading all the file names, so it sounds like a setting got changed.

 

HTH,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 8:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Selecting All Question

 

That’s true.

I personally just assume control+a always selects all.

You may want to contact tech support directly about this since while they may monitor this list, it helps to contact them directly to make sure they hear you.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 6:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Selecting All Question

 

List,

 

When in Outlook 365 and in the list of emails in my Trash Folder, I often select all and permanently delete them.  One problem, when I use the Control plus A command to select all, JAWS does not speak anything to let me know they are selected.  I have enough residual vision to see that they are selected but I would certainly feel better if JAWS reinforced this.  I should say that I am using the latest 2021 release of JAWS and Windows 10.

 

Thanks in advance for any assistance,

Mark

 


moderated Re: Selecting All Question

Richard Turner
 

That’s true.

I personally just assume control+a always selects all.

You may want to contact tech support directly about this since while they may monitor this list, it helps to contact them directly to make sure they hear you.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 6:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Selecting All Question

 

List,

 

When in Outlook 365 and in the list of emails in my Trash Folder, I often select all and permanently delete them.  One problem, when I use the Control plus A command to select all, JAWS does not speak anything to let me know they are selected.  I have enough residual vision to see that they are selected but I would certainly feel better if JAWS reinforced this.  I should say that I am using the latest 2021 release of JAWS and Windows 10.

 

Thanks in advance for any assistance,

Mark

 


moderated Selecting All Question

Mark Arnold ABG
 

List,

 

When in Outlook 365 and in the list of emails in my Trash Folder, I often select all and permanently delete them.  One problem, when I use the Control plus A command to select all, JAWS does not speak anything to let me know they are selected.  I have enough residual vision to see that they are selected but I would certainly feel better if JAWS reinforced this.  I should say that I am using the latest 2021 release of JAWS and Windows 10.

 

Thanks in advance for any assistance,

Mark

 


moderated Re: help! Can I get it back?

Shirley Tracy
 

Yes, I don’t really know much about it so will look more into it. Thanks.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: CathyAnne Murtha
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 11:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help! Can I get it back?

 

Oh, that’s good! You might experiment with OneDrive and versions to avoid future issues.

 

CathyAnne

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Access Texhnology Institute

cathy@...

(520) 955-6611

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 9:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help! Can I get it back?

 

CathyAnne,

 

I was using Word, but I hadn’t saved it in One Drive. My bad. I do have an older copy of my first draft. So things could be worse.

 

Thanks for responding.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: CathyAnne Murtha
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 8:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help! Can I get it back?

 

What application were you using? 

 

If you were using Word and had your document uploaded to OneDrive, you may be able to recover a version in the backstage info property sheet.

 

CathyAnne

—-

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Texhnology Institute

cathy@...

(520) 955-6611

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 5:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: help! Can I get it back?

 

Hi Everyone,

 

I was nearly halfway through a long piece I was writing, and Suddenly I discovered about 2/3 of what I’ve accomplished has disappeared—poof!

 

Unfortunately I had closed the file and reopened it before I made my discovery. No idea what happened.

Using JAWS, is there a simple way I can recover the missing part of the deleted file.

 

Desperately,

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 

 


moderated taskbar no longer being voiced

Mark
 

Elements in my taskbar is no longer being announced by Jaws. When I press Windows + t, I move to the running application taskbar. I press right to move through some open applications, however, nothing is being announced. My web and speech verbosity settings are set to high. Anyone have ideas?


moderated Re: Am I in forms mode?

Bill White
 

Hi, Laura. If I go into forms mode in Google Chrome, and then press ESCAPE, it doesn't say Forms Mode Off. It says Virtual PC Cursor.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Shumate
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 8:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Am I in forms mode?

Hi there,
If you go into Forms Mode and then hit escape it will say forms mode
off and then If the Auto Forms Mode setting is set, you will hear the
Tones if your setting for the speech Dpesm't say it is on or off the
tones do help.
Laura Shumate
snowflake122188@gmail.com


moderated List Rules - Mon, 03/01/2021 #cal-notice

main@jfw.groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
 

List Rules

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Description:
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moderated Re: Am I in forms mode?

Laura Shumate
 

Hi there,
If you go into Forms Mode and then hit escape it will say forms mode
off and then If the Auto Forms Mode setting is set, you will hear the
Tones if your setting for the speech Dpesm't say it is on or off the
tones do help.
Laura Shumate
snowflake122188@gmail.com


moderated Re: Am I in forms mode?

Mark
 

Hi Bill, I think it would be helpful if JAWS had a built in keystroke dedicated to saying if its in forms mode or not. It could help avoid an accidental form submit, which could have a quite significant consequences. Udo's script was basically 5 lines of code, so it's clearly not difficult. 


moderated Re: help! Can I get it back?

CathyAnne Murtha
 

Oh, that’s good! You might experiment with OneDrive and versions to avoid future issues.

CathyAnne
—-
CathyAnne Murtha
Access Texhnology Institute
cathy@...
(520) 955-6611
 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 9:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help! Can I get it back?
 

CathyAnne,

 

I was using Word, but I hadn’t saved it in One Drive. My bad. I do have an older copy of my first draft. So things could be worse.

 

Thanks for responding.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: CathyAnne Murtha
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 8:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help! Can I get it back?

 

What application were you using? 

 

If you were using Word and had your document uploaded to OneDrive, you may be able to recover a version in the backstage info property sheet.

 

CathyAnne

—-

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Texhnology Institute

cathy@...

(520) 955-6611

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 5:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: help! Can I get it back?

 

Hi Everyone,

 

I was nearly halfway through a long piece I was writing, and Suddenly I discovered about 2/3 of what I’ve accomplished has disappeared—poof!

 

Unfortunately I had closed the file and reopened it before I made my discovery. No idea what happened.

Using JAWS, is there a simple way I can recover the missing part of the deleted file.

 

Desperately,

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 


moderated Re: help! Can I get it back?

Shirley Tracy
 

CathyAnne,

 

I was using Word, but I hadn’t saved it in One Drive. My bad. I do have an older copy of my first draft. So things could be worse.

 

Thanks for responding.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: CathyAnne Murtha
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 8:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help! Can I get it back?

 

What application were you using? 

 

If you were using Word and had your document uploaded to OneDrive, you may be able to recover a version in the backstage info property sheet.

 

CathyAnne

—-

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Texhnology Institute

cathy@...

(520) 955-6611

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 5:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: help! Can I get it back?

 

Hi Everyone,

 

I was nearly halfway through a long piece I was writing, and Suddenly I discovered about 2/3 of what I’ve accomplished has disappeared—poof!

 

Unfortunately I had closed the file and reopened it before I made my discovery. No idea what happened.

Using JAWS, is there a simple way I can recover the missing part of the deleted file.

 

Desperately,

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 


moderated Re: Am I in forms mode?

Bill White
 

Hi, Mark. If you have forms mode set to manual, and forms mode is not currently active or on, and you arrow up and down past a form field, it will say Edit combo. If you are actually in forms mode, and you arrow up and down while forms mode is on, you will not be able to arrow up and down, except if there are more forms fields adjacent to the field you are in. Even then, it will not say edit combo unless forms mode is not currently active.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 7:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Am I in forms mode?

 

It's nice to have a keystroke do one thing, like Udo's script does. 

I'm surprised something dedicated to letting the user know if forms mode is on or off isn't already built into JAWS. It seems really important to me. 

If forms mode is on but you think it's off and so press enter thinking it will activate forms mode, might you accidentally submit the form?


moderated Re: Am I in forms mode?

Mark
 

It's nice to have a keystroke do one thing, like Udo's script does. 

I'm surprised something dedicated to letting the user know if forms mode is on or off isn't already built into JAWS. It seems really important to me. 

If forms mode is on but you think it's off and so press enter thinking it will activate forms mode, might you accidentally submit the form?


moderated Re: help! Can I get it back?

CathyAnne Murtha
 

What application were you using? 

If you were using Word and had your document uploaded to OneDrive, you may be able to recover a version in the backstage info property sheet.

CathyAnne
—-
CathyAnne Murtha
Access Texhnology Institute
cathy@...
(520) 955-6611
 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 5:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: help! Can I get it back?
 

Hi Everyone,

 

I was nearly halfway through a long piece I was writing, and Suddenly I discovered about 2/3 of what I’ve accomplished has disappeared—poof!

 

Unfortunately I had closed the file and reopened it before I made my discovery. No idea what happened.

Using JAWS, is there a simple way I can recover the missing part of the deleted file.

 

Desperately,

 

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated help! Can I get it back?

Shirley Tracy
 

Hi Everyone,

 

I was nearly halfway through a long piece I was writing, and Suddenly I discovered about 2/3 of what I’ve accomplished has disappeared—poof!

 

Unfortunately I had closed the file and reopened it before I made my discovery. No idea what happened.

Using JAWS, is there a simple way I can recover the missing part of the deleted file.

 

Desperately,

 

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated Re: Am I in forms mode?

Mike B
 


I'm assuming the keystroke you've given is for the laptop layout but, the Active Cursor keystroke for desktop layout is, Alt + Delete.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: Am I in forms mode?

Hello,
I know the script was not very difficult to implement, but there is already something quite similar built into JAWS. 
The keystroke alt-numlock period will tell you the active cursor. Sometimes this gives more information than one would want, but if it says 
“PC Cursor” or forms 
, then you will be in a mode where most characters are sent directly to the web page.

This script is called SayActiveCursor if you would like to bind it do a different keystroke.

Jonathan Cohn

On Feb 26, 2021, at 10:34 PM, Mark <mweiler@...> wrote:

Is there a short cut that will tell me if I'm in forms mode or not?


moderated Re: eliminate annoucement of blank lines in Outlook JAWS 2021

Mike B
 

Also, with Outlook open look in the Settings Center /Miscellaneous / Say Blank for empty and make sure this is unchecked.
This is the Miscellaneous folder that's by itself, number 26 of 27 in the Settings Center folder list.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: eliminate annoucement of blank lines in Outlook JAWS 2021

Did you check in settings center (insert-6) for Skip Blank Lines While Navigating in the 

ReadingWeb / HTML / PDFs category?

This is turned on in default for me but off in Outlook.

Best Wishes,
Jonathan Cohn



On Feb 28, 2021, at 4:41 PM, Shai <shaiwol@...> wrote:

Hello,
I am wondering if there is a means to have JAWS ignore blank lines
when reading a message in Outlook?
I receive many emails per day and it would be pleasant if there is a
means of doing this. I have been through the schemes and sounds
manager where I did try to edit the classic scheme. I went to the
misc. tab and noticed that new lines only had speak using message
voice or play sound.
Thank you in advance for any responses.


--
Shai Wolman
Wolman technologies
(619)894-6587
Providing training to children and adults that empowers them to be
productive and successful with their assistive technology/computing
tasks.
atvistech@...







moderated Re: eliminate annoucement of blank lines in Outlook JAWS 2021

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Did you check in settings center (insert-6) for Skip Blank Lines While Navigating in the 

ReadingWeb / HTML / PDFs category?

This is turned on in default for me but off in Outlook.

Best Wishes,
Jonathan Cohn



On Feb 28, 2021, at 4:41 PM, Shai <shaiwol@...> wrote:

Hello,
I am wondering if there is a means to have JAWS ignore blank lines
when reading a message in Outlook?
I receive many emails per day and it would be pleasant if there is a
means of doing this. I have been through the schemes and sounds
manager where I did try to edit the classic scheme. I went to the
misc. tab and noticed that new lines only had speak using message
voice or play sound.
Thank you in advance for any responses.


--
Shai Wolman
Wolman technologies
(619)894-6587
Providing training to children and adults that empowers them to be
productive and successful with their assistive technology/computing
tasks.
atvistech@...






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