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moderated Outlook and show progress

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

For those who are using Outlook, and have been having trouble with ALT plus S followed by P to show the Send and Receive Progress,

 

On some systems, the ribbon shortcut command has slightly changed. Now it may be,

 

ALT plus J, followed by S, then P.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 


moderated Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

JM Casey
 

Well, maybe the issue is more complex than that? I only suggest this because I have been using and mostly loving Windows 10 for over two years now, and don’t really experience any of the problems with the JAWS cursor most of you are describing. Mostly still works great/as well as  ever on this system, though I admit I hardly use any of the new “universal style apps” at all, where this cursor mostly is useless anyway. It used to give me nothing from Firefox, but turning hardware acceleration off (I think – was a long time ago that I had to tweak this setting) fixed that.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of soner
Sent: June 6, 2019 2:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Hello, adding to your point, has been years that we herd no improvement about it from Freedom. They preferred investing on useless and naturally unsustainable features like research it.

I do not know what goes on in those technology showcases, but at least wish some Canadian and American mates appearing in those places with their real comments and feed-backs.

I sometimes listen FSCast podcasts, however, it is nothing more than a commercial session with some plastic questions and comments rather than a real community driven discussion on the product itself.

But, actually, you could ignore all my comments above and could keep on offering your gratitudes to Mr. Dammery and to his team for their "magical job" enabling us to use notepad!

Regards

 


On 6 Jun 2019, at 04:02, Tom Lange <lange85@...> wrote:

Hi,

Going back even as far as Windows XP, I’ve seen many instances in which invoking the Jaws cursor and then using the arrow keys results in “blank, blank, blank”  et cetera and I’ve never gotten a satisfactory answer regarding why that happens. I’ve tried tweaking the screen resolution and other settings, to no avail. 

As for the John’s cursor, I’ve never actually encountered one of those but I would speculate that it must be some device that kicks into high gear when a guy hanging out in the red-light district gets busted and hauled in for soliciting.

 


On Jun 5, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Hi,

  JAWS is what was meant.  Sorry I did not proof better.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 5:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

The John’s cursor?

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

 I am not sure of the solution, but this is a typical John’s Kurtzer response. As windows has advanced and technology increased the John’s cursor has become less useful. I understand that Freedom Scientific is working on that and hopes to have major changes soon. 

 

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of soner <soner.boun@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Dear listers, on Windows 10, I encounter a strange problem in Jaws
cursor mode with all web browsers. that while it reads properly
through arrow keys, it just says: "space", if I would like to move
word by word or character by character to move and click an element or
a word to read. So I am literally unable to grabb anything clickable
or any word to locate in Jaws cursor mode.
I have tested through various Jaws versions from April 2019 down to
2018, but it gives the same result.
I use a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 P20W-C laptop with all the drivers
and firmwares up to date.

Any tip or help greatly appreciated.




moderated Re: jaws quick / hot key

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Robin. When JAWS is set to mute speech, speech is always muted. When JAWS is set to use Speech on demand, speech is usually muted, but JAWS will still speek when using commands such as,

 

Say Character

Say Prior Word

Say Next Word

Say Word

Spell Word

Say Prior Line

Say Current Line

Spell Current Line

Say All

 

etc. So, you have speech muted, but when using navigational commands except for arrow keys, JAWS will speak normally.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 10:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Sieghard, Are you able to articulate to me what Speech on Demand really does?  Even without following the steps you and Bill each outlined,  I was finding that the JAWS spacebar then S would mute my speech.  JAWS says Speech on Demand, but when this is active, I havent’ noticed JAWS speaking so it’s effectively been a mute function for me.  I’m not clear how someone would use Speech on Demand and am guessing that you have to customize how JAWS will or won’t speak in this mode, but can’t imagine how it’s used.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 10:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi Bill,

 

Just for your information, you can accomplish what  you described also in the following way:

 

1. Press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S – this will turn on speech on demand

2. Now press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by Shift + S – Jaws will say “Speech off set to speech mute”

3. Press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S again – Jaws will now say full speech and from now on when you press this layered shortcut it will toggle between mute and full speech.

If you want to go back to speech on demand simply repeat the above steps, first toggle speech to mute, then press the layered keystroke but with Shift + S and Jaws will say “Speech off set to speech on demand”, now the toggle is back between full speech and speech on demand.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi, Rick. In case all you want to do is to mute speech instead of unloading JAWS entirely, try the following,

 

1. Open Settings Center with INSERT plus six on numbers row.

2. Press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D to load Default JAWS configuration.

3. In the search field, type

 

speech.

 

4. Arrow down to Less Speech Options.

5. Press SPACE BAR to toggle speech from Speech On Demand to Mute Speech.

6. TAB to OK, and press ENTER to save settings.

 

7. Now, INSERT plus SPACE, followed by S will mute speech instead of setting it to Speech On Demand.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:10 AM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi all,

 

Sorry for my constant inquiries but is there a short cut for turning jaws on and off? Something more quick than alt tabbing to jaws and hitting alt F4?

 

Thanks

 

Rick



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moderated Re: jaws quick / hot key

Rick Mladek
 

Sieghard,

 

The hot key works excellent. Thank you for the help.

 

Rick

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi Bill,

 

You are correct, I could have sworn that at one point this was a permanent change.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 9:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi, Sieghard. This only works for the current session. If you restart JAWS or your computer, using SHIFT plus S does not make Speech Mute permanently the default behavior.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi Bill,

 

Just for your information, you can accomplish what  you described also in the following way:

 

1. Press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S – this will turn on speech on demand

2. Now press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by Shift + S – Jaws will say “Speech off set to speech mute”

3. Press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S again – Jaws will now say full speech and from now on when you press this layered shortcut it will toggle between mute and full speech.

If you want to go back to speech on demand simply repeat the above steps, first toggle speech to mute, then press the layered keystroke but with Shift + S and Jaws will say “Speech off set to speech on demand”, now the toggle is back between full speech and speech on demand.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi, Rick. In case all you want to do is to mute speech instead of unloading JAWS entirely, try the following,

 

1. Open Settings Center with INSERT plus six on numbers row.

2. Press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D to load Default JAWS configuration.

3. In the search field, type

 

speech.

 

4. Arrow down to Less Speech Options.

5. Press SPACE BAR to toggle speech from Speech On Demand to Mute Speech.

6. TAB to OK, and press ENTER to save settings.

 

7. Now, INSERT plus SPACE, followed by S will mute speech instead of setting it to Speech On Demand.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi all,

 

Sorry for my constant inquiries but is there a short cut for turning jaws on and off? Something more quick than alt tabbing to jaws and hitting alt F4?

 

Thanks

 

Rick


moderated Re: jaws quick / hot key

Van Lant, Robin
 

Sieghard, Are you able to articulate to me what Speech on Demand really does?  Even without following the steps you and Bill each outlined,  I was finding that the JAWS spacebar then S would mute my speech.  JAWS says Speech on Demand, but when this is active, I havent’ noticed JAWS speaking so it’s effectively been a mute function for me.  I’m not clear how someone would use Speech on Demand and am guessing that you have to customize how JAWS will or won’t speak in this mode, but can’t imagine how it’s used.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 10:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi Bill,

 

Just for your information, you can accomplish what  you described also in the following way:

 

1. Press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S – this will turn on speech on demand

2. Now press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by Shift + S – Jaws will say “Speech off set to speech mute”

3. Press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S again – Jaws will now say full speech and from now on when you press this layered shortcut it will toggle between mute and full speech.

If you want to go back to speech on demand simply repeat the above steps, first toggle speech to mute, then press the layered keystroke but with Shift + S and Jaws will say “Speech off set to speech on demand”, now the toggle is back between full speech and speech on demand.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi, Rick. In case all you want to do is to mute speech instead of unloading JAWS entirely, try the following,

 

1. Open Settings Center with INSERT plus six on numbers row.

2. Press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D to load Default JAWS configuration.

3. In the search field, type

 

speech.

 

4. Arrow down to Less Speech Options.

5. Press SPACE BAR to toggle speech from Speech On Demand to Mute Speech.

6. TAB to OK, and press ENTER to save settings.

 

7. Now, INSERT plus SPACE, followed by S will mute speech instead of setting it to Speech On Demand.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi all,

 

Sorry for my constant inquiries but is there a short cut for turning jaws on and off? Something more quick than alt tabbing to jaws and hitting alt F4?

 

Thanks

 

Rick



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moderated Re: jaws quick / hot key

Dan Longmore
 

 I have encountered a similar situation, and have found it is the fault of another program that is interacting with my assistive technology. May want to see what other programs you have running that could be causing the lack of desktop shortcut 
 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 11:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key
 

No.
But unless you are on my computer, the Jaws hotkey will launch Jaws if you have one set up.
Otherwise, you can press Windows-key, plus r for the run dialog, and type jaws2019 and hit enter.
None of my desktop shortcut keys work when I use Jaws 2019, but they work fine if I run Jaws 2018. Neither Microsoft or FS can explain that.
I've done repairs, uninstall and reinstall, with no change.
So, the run dialog has become my friend.
Richard


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On Jun 6, 2019, at 8:22 AM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:

Can this also be toggled to turn back on?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

 

insert-f4 will do the exit of Jaws.

Richard

 

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On Jun 6, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Sorry for my constant inquiries but is there a short cut for turning jaws on and off? Something more quick than alt tabbing to jaws and hitting alt F4?

 

Thanks

 

Rick


moderated Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi Bill,

 

You are correct, I could have sworn that at one point this was a permanent change.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 9:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi, Sieghard. This only works for the current session. If you restart JAWS or your computer, using SHIFT plus S does not make Speech Mute permanently the default behavior.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi Bill,

 

Just for your information, you can accomplish what  you described also in the following way:

 

1. Press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S – this will turn on speech on demand

2. Now press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by Shift + S – Jaws will say “Speech off set to speech mute”

3. Press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S again – Jaws will now say full speech and from now on when you press this layered shortcut it will toggle between mute and full speech.

If you want to go back to speech on demand simply repeat the above steps, first toggle speech to mute, then press the layered keystroke but with Shift + S and Jaws will say “Speech off set to speech on demand”, now the toggle is back between full speech and speech on demand.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi, Rick. In case all you want to do is to mute speech instead of unloading JAWS entirely, try the following,

 

1. Open Settings Center with INSERT plus six on numbers row.

2. Press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D to load Default JAWS configuration.

3. In the search field, type

 

speech.

 

4. Arrow down to Less Speech Options.

5. Press SPACE BAR to toggle speech from Speech On Demand to Mute Speech.

6. TAB to OK, and press ENTER to save settings.

 

7. Now, INSERT plus SPACE, followed by S will mute speech instead of setting it to Speech On Demand.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi all,

 

Sorry for my constant inquiries but is there a short cut for turning jaws on and off? Something more quick than alt tabbing to jaws and hitting alt F4?

 

Thanks

 

Rick


moderated Re: jaws quick / hot key

Mario
 

no, that's why you should assign a shortcut to start JAWS. or if JAWS
was pinned to the task bar, pressing the windows key plus the number of
the position of JAWS will start JAWS. I have JAWS set to the first
position on the task bar, so windows+homerow 1 starts JAWS.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Rick Mladek [mailto:hmladek@neo.rr.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 6, 2019, 11:22 AM
Subject: jaws quick / hot key

Can this also be toggled to turn back on?



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key





insert-f4 will do the exit of Jaws.

Richard



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On Jun 6, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@neo.rr.com
<mailto:hmladek@neo.rr.com> > wrote:

Hi all,



Sorry for my constant inquiries but is there a short cut for turning
jaws on and off? Something more quick than alt tabbing to jaws and
hitting alt F4?



Thanks



Rick


moderated Re: jaws quick / hot key

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Sieghard. This only works for the current session. If you restart JAWS or your computer, using SHIFT plus S does not make Speech Mute permanently the default behavior.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi Bill,

 

Just for your information, you can accomplish what  you described also in the following way:

 

1. Press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S – this will turn on speech on demand

2. Now press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by Shift + S – Jaws will say “Speech off set to speech mute”

3. Press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S again – Jaws will now say full speech and from now on when you press this layered shortcut it will toggle between mute and full speech.

If you want to go back to speech on demand simply repeat the above steps, first toggle speech to mute, then press the layered keystroke but with Shift + S and Jaws will say “Speech off set to speech on demand”, now the toggle is back between full speech and speech on demand.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi, Rick. In case all you want to do is to mute speech instead of unloading JAWS entirely, try the following,

 

1. Open Settings Center with INSERT plus six on numbers row.

2. Press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D to load Default JAWS configuration.

3. In the search field, type

 

speech.

 

4. Arrow down to Less Speech Options.

5. Press SPACE BAR to toggle speech from Speech On Demand to Mute Speech.

6. TAB to OK, and press ENTER to save settings.

 

7. Now, INSERT plus SPACE, followed by S will mute speech instead of setting it to Speech On Demand.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi all,

 

Sorry for my constant inquiries but is there a short cut for turning jaws on and off? Something more quick than alt tabbing to jaws and hitting alt F4?

 

Thanks

 

Rick


moderated Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi Bill,

 

Just for your information, you can accomplish what  you described also in the following way:

 

1. Press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S – this will turn on speech on demand

2. Now press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by Shift + S – Jaws will say “Speech off set to speech mute”

3. Press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S again – Jaws will now say full speech and from now on when you press this layered shortcut it will toggle between mute and full speech.

If you want to go back to speech on demand simply repeat the above steps, first toggle speech to mute, then press the layered keystroke but with Shift + S and Jaws will say “Speech off set to speech on demand”, now the toggle is back between full speech and speech on demand.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi, Rick. In case all you want to do is to mute speech instead of unloading JAWS entirely, try the following,

 

1. Open Settings Center with INSERT plus six on numbers row.

2. Press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D to load Default JAWS configuration.

3. In the search field, type

 

speech.

 

4. Arrow down to Less Speech Options.

5. Press SPACE BAR to toggle speech from Speech On Demand to Mute Speech.

6. TAB to OK, and press ENTER to save settings.

 

7. Now, INSERT plus SPACE, followed by S will mute speech instead of setting it to Speech On Demand.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi all,

 

Sorry for my constant inquiries but is there a short cut for turning jaws on and off? Something more quick than alt tabbing to jaws and hitting alt F4?

 

Thanks

 

Rick


moderated Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Very interesting and, as  you said, one of these weird and unique things which do happen.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

 

No.

But unless you are on my computer, the Jaws hotkey will launch Jaws if you have one set up.

Otherwise, you can press Windows-key, plus r for the run dialog, and type jaws2019 and hit enter.

None of my desktop shortcut keys work when I use Jaws 2019, but they work fine if I run Jaws 2018. Neither Microsoft or FS can explain that.

I've done repairs, uninstall and reinstall, with no change.

So, the run dialog has become my friend.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 6, 2019, at 8:22 AM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:

Can this also be toggled to turn back on?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

 

insert-f4 will do the exit of Jaws.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 6, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Sorry for my constant inquiries but is there a short cut for turning jaws on and off? Something more quick than alt tabbing to jaws and hitting alt F4?

 

Thanks

 

Rick


moderated Re: jaws quick / hot key

Richard Turner
 


No.
But unless you are on my computer, the Jaws hotkey will launch Jaws if you have one set up.
Otherwise, you can press Windows-key, plus r for the run dialog, and type jaws2019 and hit enter.
None of my desktop shortcut keys work when I use Jaws 2019, but they work fine if I run Jaws 2018. Neither Microsoft or FS can explain that.
I've done repairs, uninstall and reinstall, with no change.
So, the run dialog has become my friend.
Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker



On Jun 6, 2019, at 8:22 AM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:

Can this also be toggled to turn back on?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

 

insert-f4 will do the exit of Jaws.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 6, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Sorry for my constant inquiries but is there a short cut for turning jaws on and off? Something more quick than alt tabbing to jaws and hitting alt F4?

 

Thanks

 

Rick


moderated Re: jaws quick / hot key

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Rick. In case all you want to do is to mute speech instead of unloading JAWS entirely, try the following,

 

1. Open Settings Center with INSERT plus six on numbers row.

2. Press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D to load Default JAWS configuration.

3. In the search field, type

 

speech.

 

4. Arrow down to Less Speech Options.

5. Press SPACE BAR to toggle speech from Speech On Demand to Mute Speech.

6. TAB to OK, and press ENTER to save settings.

 

7. Now, INSERT plus SPACE, followed by S will mute speech instead of setting it to Speech On Demand.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws quick / hot key

 

Hi all,

 

Sorry for my constant inquiries but is there a short cut for turning jaws on and off? Something more quick than alt tabbing to jaws and hitting alt F4?

 

Thanks

 

Rick


moderated Re: jaws quick / hot key

Rick Mladek
 

Thanks bunches…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

And if you use Jaws 2019 you can now specify in Options > Basic if you want to get the prompt whether you really want to exit Jaws. If you don’t want it then pressing Jaws Key + F4 simply unloads Jaws and that is that.

You can make a keyboard shortcut to reload Jaws, go to the Jaws icon on the desktop and press Alt + Enter for the properties:

1. Tab twice and you hear “Shortcut key: Hot key, None

2. Press a key combination you want to use, I recommend Control + Shift + J since it’s easy to press and easy to remember

3. Tab to OK and activate it. You maybe be prompted to continue with administrator rights, but once done if Jaws is unloaded pressing Control + Shift + J will start it.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Can this also be toggled to turn back on?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

 

insert-f4 will do the exit of Jaws.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 6, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Sorry for my constant inquiries but is there a short cut for turning jaws on and off? Something more quick than alt tabbing to jaws and hitting alt F4?

 

Thanks

 

Rick


moderated Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

There are times when you won’t get around getting used to something new and getting used to Chrome is in my opinion one of the better investments in time you can make since when the Chromium based Edge comes out it will be very similar and there is a reason why Chrome has something like 60 or 70% market share.

Not sure why you are having such issues with Jaws and Office 2019, I use Office 365 and I don’t have such problems.

Have you tried a Jaws repair or uninstall and reinstall it to see if that helps. When you installed Office 2019 I assume you first uninstalled Office 2010?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

Hi,

 

The problem is not only Firefox. However, Crome is not my favorite simply because so different, as I see it, from Internet Explorer and/or Firefox. Creature of habit I am guilty of being.

 

Using the most current jaws, Windows 10

 

Another notice… when I am receiving email, jaws will practically freeze up or at best, severely lag. What is this now about? All my problems are since Jaws 2019 was installed and with the Office headaches, in the last week since upgrading from Office 2010 to 2019.

 

Rick

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

Based on what Richard said this sounds more like it’s how Firefox renders the page since it is not spoken in Edge or Chrome. Chrome in my opinion is by far the best browser option right now, it is extremely accessible and very fast.

Just out of curiosity, what is it you dislike about Chrome?

Also, if you want to know exactly what Jaws is saying, let it speak a line where this word is spoken and then go into Jaws speech history with Jaws Key + Spacebar and H and you can then review the text in the virtual cursor.

Which version of Jaws do you use, don’t think you mentioned it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 7:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

Hi Richard,

 

Also a problem with IE but everything is a problem with that browser. I dislike Edge and Crome so not a concern. I’ll notify the Jaws folks to have them look into this when I find the time…

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

I can confirm it is likely a Firefox issue since Edge doesn’t say the word “all” before those items either.

But, since I use Firefox I went and checked and yes it does say all.

But, I use DuckDuckGo as my home page, so I never deal with that as I am not a fan of google.

 

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 4:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

This is the information I am also hearing. I hear the word all, or sounds like all. This is only within the pc curser, not the jaws cursor.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

This sounds like not an issue with Jaws but an issue with the website. I have come across many websites where some word or string of characters is spoken which visually is not there, but it is somehow part of the websites code and Jaws picks it up. Have you tried a different browser like Chrome?

Having said this, I just went to Google.com and clicked on this item “How search works” and I don’t hear Jaws saying anything extra, here is a portion of that site from Jaws speech history, I use Chrome as my browser and I use Jaws 2019:

 

heading level 2 How Google Search works

Every time you search, there are thousands, sometimes millions, of webpages with helpful information. How Google figures out which results to show starts
long before you even type, and is guided by a commitment to you to provide the best information.
same page link 


separator

heading level 2 Organizing the
heading level 2 content of the web

Even before you search, Google organizes information about webpages in our Search index. The index is like a library, except it contains more info than
in all the world’s libraries put together.
Link Learn more about crawling and indexing

separator

 

heading level 2 Instantly matching
heading level 2 your search
blank
In a fraction of a second, Google’s Search algorithms sort through hundreds of billions of webpages in our Search index to find the most relevant, useful
results for what you’re looking for.
lank
Link Learn more about Search algorithms
blank
separator
blank
heading level 2 Presenting results
heading level 2 in helpful ways
blank
To help you find what you’re looking for quickly, Google provides results in many useful formats. Whether presented as a map with directions, images, videos
or stories, we’re constantly evolving with new ways to present information.
lank
Link Learn more about useful responses
blank
separator
blank
heading level 2 We only sell ads, not
heading level 2 search results
blank
While advertisers can pay to be displayed in clearly marked sections of the page, no one can buy better placement in the search results.
lank
Link Learn more about how we make money with advertising

separator
blank
heading level 2 Always improving
heading level 2 your experience
blank
We know Search can always be better. That’s why Google engineers spend every day testing it, conducting hundreds of thousands of experiments every year,
resulting in thousands of improvements.
lank
Link Learn more about our rigorous testing
blank
visited Link Google
list of 4 items
Link Privacy
Link Terms
Link About Google
Link Google Products
list end
list of 2 items
Link Help
Change language or region Combo box Change language or region
list end
Link Learn more about how we make money with advertising

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 3:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

Hi Everybody,

 

Here is an odd one, I turn on my computer and went into my internet browser, Mozilla Firefox. My homepage is set to google.com and I was just going down to see if anything new is on this page and a link I haven’t noticed before, how search works, was found. I clicked on it to see what they say about how their search works and I’ve noticed a very disturbing issue. As I arrow down, I hear “all” before each link or section. What is this? How do I get jaws n ot to read or say all before all as I move down through this information? This is new to me, I hope someone understands what I’ve come across. This is not the “say all” command. I actually hear the word, all, as it comes to a new link or paragraph or section of information.

 

This is also same on Internet Explorer and I am to believe with all browsers.

 

Thanks again,

 

Rick


moderated Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

And if you use Jaws 2019 you can now specify in Options > Basic if you want to get the prompt whether you really want to exit Jaws. If you don’t want it then pressing Jaws Key + F4 simply unloads Jaws and that is that.

You can make a keyboard shortcut to reload Jaws, go to the Jaws icon on the desktop and press Alt + Enter for the properties:

1. Tab twice and you hear “Shortcut key: Hot key, None

2. Press a key combination you want to use, I recommend Control + Shift + J since it’s easy to press and easy to remember

3. Tab to OK and activate it. You maybe be prompted to continue with administrator rights, but once done if Jaws is unloaded pressing Control + Shift + J will start it.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Can this also be toggled to turn back on?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

 

insert-f4 will do the exit of Jaws.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 6, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Sorry for my constant inquiries but is there a short cut for turning jaws on and off? Something more quick than alt tabbing to jaws and hitting alt F4?

 

Thanks

 

Rick


moderated Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

Rick Mladek
 

Hi,

 

The problem is not only Firefox. However, Crome is not my favorite simply because so different, as I see it, from Internet Explorer and/or Firefox. Creature of habit I am guilty of being.

 

Using the most current jaws, Windows 10

 

Another notice… when I am receiving email, jaws will practically freeze up or at best, severely lag. What is this now about? All my problems are since Jaws 2019 was installed and with the Office headaches, in the last week since upgrading from Office 2010 to 2019.

 

Rick

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

Based on what Richard said this sounds more like it’s how Firefox renders the page since it is not spoken in Edge or Chrome. Chrome in my opinion is by far the best browser option right now, it is extremely accessible and very fast.

Just out of curiosity, what is it you dislike about Chrome?

Also, if you want to know exactly what Jaws is saying, let it speak a line where this word is spoken and then go into Jaws speech history with Jaws Key + Spacebar and H and you can then review the text in the virtual cursor.

Which version of Jaws do you use, don’t think you mentioned it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 7:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

Hi Richard,

 

Also a problem with IE but everything is a problem with that browser. I dislike Edge and Crome so not a concern. I’ll notify the Jaws folks to have them look into this when I find the time…

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

I can confirm it is likely a Firefox issue since Edge doesn’t say the word “all” before those items either.

But, since I use Firefox I went and checked and yes it does say all.

But, I use DuckDuckGo as my home page, so I never deal with that as I am not a fan of google.

 

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 4:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

This is the information I am also hearing. I hear the word all, or sounds like all. This is only within the pc curser, not the jaws cursor.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

This sounds like not an issue with Jaws but an issue with the website. I have come across many websites where some word or string of characters is spoken which visually is not there, but it is somehow part of the websites code and Jaws picks it up. Have you tried a different browser like Chrome?

Having said this, I just went to Google.com and clicked on this item “How search works” and I don’t hear Jaws saying anything extra, here is a portion of that site from Jaws speech history, I use Chrome as my browser and I use Jaws 2019:

 

heading level 2 How Google Search works

Every time you search, there are thousands, sometimes millions, of webpages with helpful information. How Google figures out which results to show starts
long before you even type, and is guided by a commitment to you to provide the best information.
same page link 


separator

heading level 2 Organizing the
heading level 2 content of the web

Even before you search, Google organizes information about webpages in our Search index. The index is like a library, except it contains more info than
in all the world’s libraries put together.
Link Learn more about crawling and indexing

separator

 

heading level 2 Instantly matching
heading level 2 your search
blank
In a fraction of a second, Google’s Search algorithms sort through hundreds of billions of webpages in our Search index to find the most relevant, useful
results for what you’re looking for.
lank
Link Learn more about Search algorithms
blank
separator
blank
heading level 2 Presenting results
heading level 2 in helpful ways
blank
To help you find what you’re looking for quickly, Google provides results in many useful formats. Whether presented as a map with directions, images, videos
or stories, we’re constantly evolving with new ways to present information.
lank
Link Learn more about useful responses
blank
separator
blank
heading level 2 We only sell ads, not
heading level 2 search results
blank
While advertisers can pay to be displayed in clearly marked sections of the page, no one can buy better placement in the search results.
lank
Link Learn more about how we make money with advertising

separator
blank
heading level 2 Always improving
heading level 2 your experience
blank
We know Search can always be better. That’s why Google engineers spend every day testing it, conducting hundreds of thousands of experiments every year,
resulting in thousands of improvements.
lank
Link Learn more about our rigorous testing
blank
visited Link Google
list of 4 items
Link Privacy
Link Terms
Link About Google
Link Google Products
list end
list of 2 items
Link Help
Change language or region Combo box Change language or region
list end
Link Learn more about how we make money with advertising

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 3:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

Hi Everybody,

 

Here is an odd one, I turn on my computer and went into my internet browser, Mozilla Firefox. My homepage is set to google.com and I was just going down to see if anything new is on this page and a link I haven’t noticed before, how search works, was found. I clicked on it to see what they say about how their search works and I’ve noticed a very disturbing issue. As I arrow down, I hear “all” before each link or section. What is this? How do I get jaws n ot to read or say all before all as I move down through this information? This is new to me, I hope someone understands what I’ve come across. This is not the “say all” command. I actually hear the word, all, as it comes to a new link or paragraph or section of information.

 

This is also same on Internet Explorer and I am to believe with all browsers.

 

Thanks again,

 

Rick


moderated Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

Based on what Richard said this sounds more like it’s how Firefox renders the page since it is not spoken in Edge or Chrome. Chrome in my opinion is by far the best browser option right now, it is extremely accessible and very fast.

Just out of curiosity, what is it you dislike about Chrome?

Also, if you want to know exactly what Jaws is saying, let it speak a line where this word is spoken and then go into Jaws speech history with Jaws Key + Spacebar and H and you can then review the text in the virtual cursor.

Which version of Jaws do you use, don’t think you mentioned it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 7:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

Hi Richard,

 

Also a problem with IE but everything is a problem with that browser. I dislike Edge and Crome so not a concern. I’ll notify the Jaws folks to have them look into this when I find the time…

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

I can confirm it is likely a Firefox issue since Edge doesn’t say the word “all” before those items either.

But, since I use Firefox I went and checked and yes it does say all.

But, I use DuckDuckGo as my home page, so I never deal with that as I am not a fan of google.

 

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 4:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

This is the information I am also hearing. I hear the word all, or sounds like all. This is only within the pc curser, not the jaws cursor.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

This sounds like not an issue with Jaws but an issue with the website. I have come across many websites where some word or string of characters is spoken which visually is not there, but it is somehow part of the websites code and Jaws picks it up. Have you tried a different browser like Chrome?

Having said this, I just went to Google.com and clicked on this item “How search works” and I don’t hear Jaws saying anything extra, here is a portion of that site from Jaws speech history, I use Chrome as my browser and I use Jaws 2019:

 

heading level 2 How Google Search works

Every time you search, there are thousands, sometimes millions, of webpages with helpful information. How Google figures out which results to show starts
long before you even type, and is guided by a commitment to you to provide the best information.
same page link 


separator

heading level 2 Organizing the
heading level 2 content of the web

Even before you search, Google organizes information about webpages in our Search index. The index is like a library, except it contains more info than
in all the world’s libraries put together.
Link Learn more about crawling and indexing

separator

 

heading level 2 Instantly matching
heading level 2 your search
blank
In a fraction of a second, Google’s Search algorithms sort through hundreds of billions of webpages in our Search index to find the most relevant, useful
results for what you’re looking for.
lank
Link Learn more about Search algorithms
blank
separator
blank
heading level 2 Presenting results
heading level 2 in helpful ways
blank
To help you find what you’re looking for quickly, Google provides results in many useful formats. Whether presented as a map with directions, images, videos
or stories, we’re constantly evolving with new ways to present information.
lank
Link Learn more about useful responses
blank
separator
blank
heading level 2 We only sell ads, not
heading level 2 search results
blank
While advertisers can pay to be displayed in clearly marked sections of the page, no one can buy better placement in the search results.
lank
Link Learn more about how we make money with advertising

separator
blank
heading level 2 Always improving
heading level 2 your experience
blank
We know Search can always be better. That’s why Google engineers spend every day testing it, conducting hundreds of thousands of experiments every year,
resulting in thousands of improvements.
lank
Link Learn more about our rigorous testing
blank
visited Link Google
list of 4 items
Link Privacy
Link Terms
Link About Google
Link Google Products
list end
list of 2 items
Link Help
Change language or region Combo box Change language or region
list end
Link Learn more about how we make money with advertising

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 3:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws reading or indicating "all"

 

Hi Everybody,

 

Here is an odd one, I turn on my computer and went into my internet browser, Mozilla Firefox. My homepage is set to google.com and I was just going down to see if anything new is on this page and a link I haven’t noticed before, how search works, was found. I clicked on it to see what they say about how their search works and I’ve noticed a very disturbing issue. As I arrow down, I hear “all” before each link or section. What is this? How do I get jaws n ot to read or say all before all as I move down through this information? This is new to me, I hope someone understands what I’ve come across. This is not the “say all” command. I actually hear the word, all, as it comes to a new link or paragraph or section of information.

 

This is also same on Internet Explorer and I am to believe with all browsers.

 

Thanks again,

 

Rick


moderated Re: jaws quick / hot key

Rick Mladek
 

Can this also be toggled to turn back on?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

 

insert-f4 will do the exit of Jaws.

Richard

 

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On Jun 6, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Sorry for my constant inquiries but is there a short cut for turning jaws on and off? Something more quick than alt tabbing to jaws and hitting alt F4?

 

Thanks

 

Rick


moderated Re: jaws quick / hot key

Richard Turner
 


insert-f4 will do the exit of Jaws.
Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker



On Jun 6, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Sorry for my constant inquiries but is there a short cut for turning jaws on and off? Something more quick than alt tabbing to jaws and hitting alt F4?

 

Thanks

 

Rick