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Re: jaws and Hope (accessible version of pandora)

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Jessica,

 

If you mean the audio ducking checkbox, that should duck audio when JAWS is speaking.  If you know you have it checked, it should work.

 

But you can also turn the volume down of Hope independently, if you are using Windows 10.  Go to the System Tray select your soundcard, then Playback properties.  Select the Levels tab, then tab around, and you’ll hear Hope in there.  When you reach it, move the slider to the left to bring it down.  Do this while your station is paused.

 

Windows 10 has independent volumes for running apps, so make sure Hope is running at the time.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: 04 September 2018 15:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws and Hope (accessible version of pandora)

 

Hi,

I’m using jaws2018, and wish to play music, using Hope, an accessible version of pandora.

 

However, when I play a station, the music goes overtop of jaws, despite the fact that the relevant  checkbox is checked.

 

What can I do?

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 


Re: jaws and Hope (accessible version of pandora)

Mike Rogers
 

Hi.
I used Hoope for a few years, then something got corrupted and it never worked again, despite re-installing. But I find that I can maneuver around Pandora without it, using Jaws. Just a thought.

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On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:32:49 -0400
"Jessica D" <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,

I'm using jaws2018, and wish to play music, using Hope, an accessible
version of pandora.



However, when I play a station, the music goes overtop of jaws, despite the
fact that the relevant checkbox is checked.



What can I do?



Thanks,

Jessica






Re: I tried to do copy and paste but nothing happened!

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Wouldn't virtualising the window also work?

I don't think you can generally copy text using the PC cursor that's not in an edit field.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 4, 2018 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I tried to do copy and paste but nothing happened!

Hi, David. If, for some reason, the registration number speaks, but is not copyable, use the JAWS History feature (INSERT plus SPACE, followed by H. When you get to the registration number in the history, copy it from there into the clipboard, then try pasting the result into the box where the registration number should go.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 4:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I tried to do copy and paste but nothing happened!

Hi list members, as the subject line says. I tried to copy the registration code to the clipboard and paste it in where the registration code goes but nothing happened. I usually use jaws 16 for things like this but i'm not sure of how to fix this problem. I'll check to see what support has to say about this problem. Thank you if anyone has any suggestions that they might offer concerning this problem.


Re: Am I to conclude that the Thunderbird mailing list mechanism simply cannot be used by a blind person?

Lee Maschmeyer
 

Many thanks. I'm using Jaws 2018 on Windows 10. Both of those and Thunderbird too are fully updated.


Something (Jaws or Thunderbird) must have gotten scared because now when I go to the mailing list I can add an address. I have to close the address book after each address but at least it gets in.

On 18/09/04 10:56, Steve Matzura wrote:
What version of JAWS are you using? If it's not at least 18, that's most of your problem right there.


Entries in a mailing list are shown in a table, but that table is not accessed by JAWS as you would access a table in a browser. After about two or three entries in that table, Thunderbird displays a "More" link. When that link is activated, more names appear. I've never created a mailing list with more than half a dozen entries in it, so it may be that you only get a few more entries at a time every time you activate the "More" link.


On 9/4/2018 10:24 AM, Lee Maschmeyer wrote:
Hi all,


First of all, everybody, but EVERYBODY, assures me that it's very easy to set up a mailing list in Thunderbird. I don't know why it works for them and they don't know why it doesn't for me. But it doesn't for me. Now you know as much as I do. <grin>


What I think I have done is to set up a single mailbox containing about 34 entries. One of these entries is a mailing list which should ultimately contain about 29 of those entries. It's getting those entries into the mailing list which is causing monumental problems. I think Jaws isn't telling me everything relevant on the screen.


I have both speech and Braille turned on. I have Screen Echo set to All. But I still can't tell what names are in the mailing list.


It has dawned on me that perhaps I could copy all the names from the address book to a new book and then delete the ones I don't want there. Is this possible? Are there unintended side effects? Does Thunderbird use colors instead of highlighting to show what's selected? Is it easy for a sighted friend who is not computer savvy to help with setting up a mailing list?


Thanks for any suggestions,


Lee




Mailing list in Thunderbird

Elaine Young <hidden_spring@...>
 

Hi,

I do make mailing lists in Thunderbird using Windows 10 and Jaws 2017. I don't have time to take you through it step by step right now, but if you need to email me off list and we'll talk it through as I do it with you.  I have several mailing lists I have set up, they might take me a few tries to be sure I am correct with each step. :)


Elaine

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Re: Am I to conclude that the Thunderbird mailing list mechanism simply cannot be used by a blind person?

Steve Matzura
 

What version of JAWS are you using? If it's not at least 18, that's most of your problem right there.


Entries in a mailing list are shown in a table, but that table is not accessed by JAWS as you would access a table in a browser. After about two or three entries in that table, Thunderbird displays a "More" link. When that link is activated, more names appear. I've never created a mailing list with more than half a dozen entries in it, so it may be that you only get a few more entries at a time every time you activate the "More" link.

On 9/4/2018 10:24 AM, Lee Maschmeyer wrote:
Hi all,


First of all, everybody, but EVERYBODY, assures me that it's very easy to set up a mailing list in Thunderbird. I don't know why it works for them and they don't know why it doesn't for me. But it doesn't for me. Now you know as much as I do. <grin>


What I think I have done is to set up a single mailbox containing about 34 entries. One of these entries is a mailing list which should ultimately contain about 29 of those entries. It's getting those entries into the mailing list which is causing monumental problems. I think Jaws isn't telling me everything relevant on the screen.


I have both speech and Braille turned on. I have Screen Echo set to All. But I still can't tell what names are in the mailing list.


It has dawned on me that perhaps I could copy all the names from the address book to a new book and then delete the ones I don't want there. Is this possible? Are there unintended side effects? Does Thunderbird use colors instead of highlighting to show what's selected? Is it easy for a sighted friend who is not computer savvy to help with setting up a mailing list?


Thanks for any suggestions,


Lee



Re: Am I to conclude that the Thunderbird mailing list mechanism simply cannot be used by a blind person?

 

Lee,

         Were I you, and if I had access to a sighted assistant who could likely do the steps necessary, I'd have them start the process with the screen reader active so that you can hear the steps in action.   It has been my experience that very often major problems are the result of one minor omission when trying to do something, even if that omission is not well-narrated by the screen reader, that once you know it's there and you need to do it all starts going along swimmingly.

          That, or try to do what you were trying to do with your sighted assistant watching and identifying for you where/when "the breakdown in the process" occurs.

          Either way, I suspect that once the problem area is identified it will be simple to work around it afterward.  Often that's much easier to do by sight and there's no shame in looking for assistance when you need it, and that's whether you're blind or not.  It can save hours to days of frustration.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

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jaws and Hope (accessible version of pandora)

Jessica D
 

Hi,

I’m using jaws2018, and wish to play music, using Hope, an accessible version of pandora.

 

However, when I play a station, the music goes overtop of jaws, despite the fact that the relevant  checkbox is checked.

 

What can I do?

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 


Am I to conclude that the Thunderbird mailing list mechanism simply cannot be used by a blind person?

Lee Maschmeyer
 

Hi all,


First of all, everybody, but EVERYBODY, assures me that it's very easy to set up a mailing list in Thunderbird. I don't know why it works for them and they don't know why it doesn't for me. But it doesn't for me. Now you know as much as I do. <grin>


What I think I have done is to set up a single mailbox containing about 34 entries. One of these entries is a mailing list which should ultimately contain about 29 of those entries. It's getting those entries into the mailing list which is causing monumental problems. I think Jaws isn't telling me everything relevant on the screen.


I have both speech and Braille turned on. I have Screen Echo set to All. But I still can't tell what names are in the mailing list.


It has dawned on me that perhaps I could copy all the names from the address book to a new book and then delete the ones I don't want there. Is this possible? Are there unintended side effects? Does Thunderbird use colors instead of highlighting to show what's selected? Is it easy for a sighted friend who is not computer savvy to help with setting up a mailing list?


Thanks for any suggestions,


Lee


Re: I tried to do copy and paste but nothing happened!

Bill White
 

Hi, David. If, for some reason, the registration number speaks, but is not copyable, use the JAWS History feature (INSERT plus SPACE, followed by H. When you get to the registration number in the history, copy it from there into the clipboard, then try pasting the result into the box where the registration number should go.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 4:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I tried to do copy and paste but nothing happened!

Hi list members, as the subject line says. I tried to copy the registration code to the clipboard and paste it in where the registration code goes but nothing happened. I usually use jaws 16 for things like this but i'm not sure of how to fix this problem. I'll check to see what support has to say about this problem. Thank you if anyone has any suggestions that they might offer concerning this problem.


Re: Jaws command read Outlook message number

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Tom,

 

You’re right, that number that JAWS gives is totally meaningless.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: 04 September 2018 00:57
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command read Outlook message number

 

Hi Sieghard,

 

In your example below, the say line command gave the number of messages as 23 of 23 which could be incorrect.   

 

If I press either insert plus numpad 8 or insert tab in Outlook 13, Jaws says 23 of 23 but using shift tab reads 51 messages still available.   

 

I was curious why the first two above commands always showed as there being 23 messages although a number had been read. These commands may be correct when the total gets below 23.

Tom 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2018 4:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command read Outlook message number

 

It does for me using Office 2016 via Office 365, here is the Jaws Speech History for a say line on your message:

Steve Nutt

Jaws command read Outlook message number

Mon 9/3/2018 1:59 AM

70 KB

23 of 23

 

Regards,

Sieghard


Re: I tried to do copy and paste but nothing happened!

dramartinez@...
 

Did you try highlighting first? If so and that did not work, just write it down manually and type it in manually.

On Sep 4, 2018, at 6:49 AM, David Ingram <dingram269@...> wrote:

Hi list members, as the subject line says. I tried to copy the registration code to the clipboard and paste it in where the registration code goes but nothing happened. I usually use jaws 16 for things like this but i'm not sure of how to fix this problem. I'll check to see what support has to say about this problem. Thank you if anyone has any suggestions that they might offer concerning this problem.



I tried to do copy and paste but nothing happened!

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, as the subject line says. I tried to copy the registration code to the clipboard and paste it in where the registration code goes but nothing happened. I usually use jaws 16 for things like this but i'm not sure of how to fix this problem. I'll check to see what support has to say about this problem. Thank you if anyone has any suggestions that they might offer concerning this problem.


Re: Latest Jaws and word 2003

Peter Tesar
 

Hello,


I too am using Microsoft Office 2007.


The only time the Word program sometimes stops working is when using the spell checker.


Peter T.



On 9/3/2018 9:32 PM, Angel wrote:
I am still using Microsoft Office 2007, and am completely pleased with it. 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Latest Jaws and word 2003

It was through Cristóbal that I first learned of the availability of cheap and completely legal "recycled" MS Office licenses via eBay (thanks much!!).

He's also done a good job at summing up why keeping antique software, even if you love it, becomes an exercise in endless frustration.  I can't imagine a pre-ribbons version of Office anymore, as the entire Windows ecosystem went to ribbons more than a decade ago

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Re: now that i baught winzip 22 how do i copy the registration number?

Chris
 

Same as you would usually do copy and paste

Copy the key then paste it into the edit field in your program

 

 

From: David Ingram
Sent: 04 September 2018 07:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io; main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: now that i baught winzip 22 how do i copy the registration number?

 

Hi list members, now that I baught winzip22 Standard edition, how do I copy the registration code to the clipboard using jaws 16?

 

 

 


Re: Use of standard view in Gmail

turab chimthanawala
 

Hi Bill,
Thanks a lot.
Best
Turab

On 9/3/18, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi, Ketan. Turab would be using the office ID, not his own ID.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ketan
Kothari
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 3:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw
Subject: Re: Use of standard view in Gmail

Turab,

You will use your ID and not anyone else's ID so if it is only you who
is using the said ID then of course there should not be any problem.

Ketan

On 8/27/18, turab chimthanawala <turabhvc@...> wrote:
Hi all,
Have been using Basic HTML view all this while in my Gmail account.
However, at the firm I recently joined, the office id has a Standard
view.
Wish to know the key commands as the table and checkbox shortcuts are
not working properly.
Thanking you
Best
Turab




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now that i baught winzip 22 how do i copy the registration number?

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, now that I baught winzip22 Standard edition, how do I copy the registration code to the clipboard using jaws 16?


Re: Latest Jaws and word 2003

Angel
 


I am still using Microsoft Office 2007, and am completely pleased with it. 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Latest Jaws and word 2003

It was through Cristóbal that I first learned of the availability of cheap and completely legal "recycled" MS Office licenses via eBay (thanks much!!).

He's also done a good job at summing up why keeping antique software, even if you love it, becomes an exercise in endless frustration.  I can't imagine a pre-ribbons version of Office anymore, as the entire Windows ecosystem went to ribbons more than a decade ago

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Latest Jaws and word 2003

Cristóbal
 

Not anymore. eBay separated from PayPal and the exclusive deal they had is no more.

If you don’t want to deal with eBay, you could always see if a friend or family member can do you a solid and buy it for you and you can just give them the money. All they’d have to do is forward you the eBay email order that’ll usually have the MS key and instructions on how to download/install . Again, I’ve done this in the past with some of my friends/family. You’re talking $5 to $10.

If that isn’t an option, again, I’ve seen the same keys pop up on sites like DealNews and BenBargains that abrogate sales from all over the web for more. There’s also a guy on some of the blind buy/sell lists that sells MS keys for around $25 to $30 from time to time. He’s most likely just flipping keys, but hey . . . you can’t hate the man. Everyone’s got their own hustle…

It really is worth it to upgrade to get a better Jaws experience with these programs at this point.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 4:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Latest Jaws and word 2003

 

If I understand it Paypal is the only way to pay for something on Ebay.  After having a bad experience with Paypal I no longer have a Paypal or Ebay account.

On 9/3/2018 6:38 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

Yup.

Recently, I was going through a drawer of stuff and came across the CD and packaging for an office 2003 that I bought many moons ago. My first impulse was to keep it, but I quickly remembered that I’d had long since upgraded all my machines to Office 2016 via this method and really, we’re talking about a 15 year old software package. I don’t even have that XP laptop as a dust collector anymore. While I do believe it’s not necessarily essential to always have the latest and greatest and for the most part, a word processor is just a word processor or spread sheet or whatever minus some extra bells and whistles, 15 years really is a long time. Same for the Office 2010 that I also found buried in my stuff. Not even worth keeping the keys either since again, you can buy an Office 2016 key for the price of a medium pizza at this point.

I’ve helped out friends/family by buying them a key and simply forwarding them the eBay email when they’re not set up on eBay too.

And to be clear, this is completely legit and above board. I’ve even seen Office keys go on sale on other traditional sites, but eBay is usually where you find the best deals.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 2:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Latest Jaws and word 2003

 

Don,

         I offer the following for your consideration and for the consideration of those in the same situation you are in and I was in, to a lesser extent, until very recently.

         As versions of Office get more and more removed from active support screen readers, and many other things, become less and less capable of interacting with it because they keep updating to keep up with Office and Windows as a whole as well.

         With recent changes in laws in the EU, it has become illegal for Microsoft to tie a single machine license truly to a single machine, but only to a single machine at any point in time.  This has resulted in a cottage industry of individuals buying up computers that are being deaccessioned by businesses, government offices, etc., and extracting the license keys for the MS-Office that was installed on each of them, resetting them, then reselling them.  I have recently updated 4 of my computers to Office 2015 Pro Plus for less than $10 per machine, all purchased from eBay from sellers that have thousands of sales and very high satisfaction ratings.

          It is well worth considering updating your Office suite to a much more recent version, as the difficulties you are encountering are only going to become more frequent and, eventually, will not be able to be solved.
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    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Latest Jaws and word 2003

 

Don,

            That's what friends are for.

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    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back