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Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10
Tom Behler
Very interesting, Sieghard.
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I guess I can live without the shutdown sound, and figure out other ways to determine whether my computer has indeed shut down. Tom Behler
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:40 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10 That has been discussed a few times on the list. There is no simple checkbox to turn on the shutdown sound, you have to create an elevated task using the Task Manager to do this. I did quite a long time ago and it was not very reliable, but since the 1809 update which I happened to get in early October before it was pulled, the shutdown sound is I think consistent on my laptop. I should say that I did not bother to do this on my work desktops. As was mentioned in previous discussions, hearing the shutdown sound is not a 100% guaranty the computer has in fact shut down. I had it a few times when I thought I shut down my laptop in the morning only to find when I cam ehome at night that it was not shut down because something had blocked the shutdown, the sound played, but then the computer didn't shut down. I believe there is also a way to do this in the registry with one of these registry hacks one can download. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:31 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10 And, if anyone knows how to turn on a sound when your computer shuts down, that would be appreciated. I found the startup sound, but can't find the shut-down sound. Right now, I don't have a good way to tell that my new Windows 10 computer has completely shut down. Tom Behler -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:14 AM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10 Hi all, On my new windows 10 laptop, I would like to set up a few system sounds associated with certain events. For example, under windows 7, I used to hear a ding when my cursor encountered the top or bottom of the current window. Also, I used to hear a sound when a download completed. Although I've found the system sounds in settings and reviewed the list of program events, I can't figure out how to set these sounds. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. Kim -- Kimberly
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Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10
There is no officially supported shutdown sound in Windows 10. I have a workaround that functions very well on some machines and not so great (as in it's inconsistent) on others.
I submitted feedback via the feedback hub quite a while back about this. It would not hurt for someone else to do so as well, then post the link to that feedback here so it can be upvoted by others. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10
That has been discussed a few times on the list. There is no simple checkbox to turn on the shutdown sound, you have to create an elevated task using the Task Manager to do this. I did quite a long time ago and it was not very reliable, but since the 1809 update which I happened to get in early October before it was pulled, the shutdown sound is I think consistent on my laptop. I should say that I did not bother to do this on my work desktops. As was mentioned in previous discussions, hearing the shutdown sound is not a 100% guaranty the computer has in fact shut down. I had it a few times when I thought I shut down my laptop in the morning only to find when I cam ehome at night that it was not shut down because something had blocked the shutdown, the sound played, but then the computer didn't shut down.
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I believe there is also a way to do this in the registry with one of these registry hacks one can download. Regards, Sieghard
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:31 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10 And, if anyone knows how to turn on a sound when your computer shuts down, that would be appreciated. I found the startup sound, but can't find the shut-down sound. Right now, I don't have a good way to tell that my new Windows 10 computer has completely shut down. Tom Behler -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:14 AM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10 Hi all, On my new windows 10 laptop, I would like to set up a few system sounds associated with certain events. For example, under windows 7, I used to hear a ding when my cursor encountered the top or bottom of the current window. Also, I used to hear a sound when a download completed. Although I've found the system sounds in settings and reviewed the list of program events, I can't figure out how to set these sounds. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. Kim -- Kimberly
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Re: Muffled And Distorted Audio With Jaws On New Windows 10 Computer
Tom Behler
The latest build of Jaws 2018 that came out late last week.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:11 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Muffled And Distorted Audio With Jaws On New Windows 10 Computer
What built is on the PC?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Hello, everyone.
I am in the process of setting up a new Windows 10 computer with Jaws 2018.
I hadn’t used the computer for a couple of days, and when I booted it up this evening, Jaws came up, but was rather distorted and crackly at times.
In other words, the audio simply isn’t as it should be.
I raised and lowered the speaker volume, but the overall Jaws sound is still distorted.
I only have the latest build of Jaws 2018 on this computer.
This computer has 16 gigabytes of RAM, and a new I7 processor, so I know there are plenty of resources to work with.
What am I doing wrong here, and how can I correct this issue?
Thank you!
Tom Behler
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Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10
Tom Behler
I was unable to find the shutdown sound there.
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Tom Behler
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Isaac Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:49 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10 Yes, you can go to the control pannel and settings and look at the sounds tab ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimber Gardner" <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com> To: "main" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10 Hi all,
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Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10
Tom Behler
And, if anyone knows how to turn on a sound when your computer shuts down, that would be appreciated.
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I found the startup sound, but can't find the shut-down sound. Right now, I don't have a good way to tell that my new Windows 10 computer has completely shut down. Tom Behler
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:14 AM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10 Hi all, On my new windows 10 laptop, I would like to set up a few system sounds associated with certain events. For example, under windows 7, I used to hear a ding when my cursor encountered the top or bottom of the current window. Also, I used to hear a sound when a download completed. Although I've found the system sounds in settings and reviewed the list of program events, I can't figure out how to set these sounds. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. Kim -- Kimberly
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Re: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10
You can just press Insertt+J, arrow to Help and then look for Check for Updates
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 7:40 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10 is Automatic Notification of Updates check box checked? insert+j, options menu, basics submenu, tab to Automatic Notification of Updates check box, and spacebar to check if it is not already checked. -------- Original Message -------- From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:o.addisongethers@gmail.com] Sent: Sat, Nov 24, 2018 10:30 AM EST To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10 Hello All I have desktop computer window 10 and jaws 2018 I noticed this is sound strange about jaws update window never came on to asked me if I want toinstall jaws update because when I turns on my laptop computer on Tuesday morning I heard the window screen came open to say do I want to install jaws update now !! Can anyone tell me why is my desktop is not doing that? What do I need to do to fix this problem? Addison
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Re: Muffled And Distorted Audio With Jaws On New Windows 10 Computer
Tom Behler
Mike:
Thank you for these instructions.
I have saved them for future reference if needed, since I realize that sometimes these sorts of issues can re-appear without notice.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 11:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Muffled And Distorted Audio With Jaws On New Windows 10 Computer
Hi Tom,
To check to see if the RealTek drivers have been screwed up by an update you can try the following to see if all the sound effects and the equalizer is still installed. Here's how to check to see if the equalizer is installed. I've done this with both Windows 10 & 7 systems running Jaws 16 thru J2019. Also, if you don't have this Enhancements tab / page this means that your RealTek soundcard could have possibly been screwed up via an update and reinstalling the driver package will take care of your sound problems. On the other hand if it's there then there are other settings that need to be looked at. Let us know what you find.
Take care. Go Rams! ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 7:42 PM Subject: Re: Muffled And Distorted Audio With Jaws On New Windows 10 Computer
Mike:
I’m using the default sound card that came with the computer; I believe it’s a Realtech sound card.
Tom behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Hi Tom,
It's very possible that a Windows update played hell with the soundcard driver. It seems like whenever Windows 10 does a big update this happens. What soundcard is your computer running? Take care. Go Rams! ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Behler To: 'jfw list' Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 4:59 PM Subject: Muffled And Distorted Audio With Jaws On New Windows 10 Computer
Hello, everyone.
I am in the process of setting up a new Windows 10 computer with Jaws 2018.
I hadn’t used the computer for a couple of days, and when I booted it up this evening, Jaws came up, but was rather distorted and crackly at times.
In other words, the audio simply isn’t as it should be.
I raised and lowered the speaker volume, but the overall Jaws sound is still distorted.
I only have the latest build of Jaws 2018 on this computer.
This computer has 16 gigabytes of RAM, and a new I7 processor, so I know there are plenty of resources to work with.
What am I doing wrong here, and how can I correct this issue?
Thank you!
Tom Behler
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Re: Muffled And Distorted Audio With Jaws On New Windows 10 Computer
Tom Behler
Well, I re-booted my computer this morning, and Jaws was no longer muffled or distorted.
So, I wonder if it was some sort of a temporary sound driver issue from a recent Windows 10 update, as a few others have suggested.
Will keep monitoring the situation here, and hope that it was just a temporary issue.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 11:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Muffled And Distorted Audio With Jaws On New Windows 10 Computer
That would tell me that it is not JAWS then. You have to look at the sound card, card drivers or the speakers them selves.
Love in Christ
From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 9:43 PM Subject: Re: Muffled And Distorted Audio With Jaws On New Windows 10 Computer
Well, the windows startup sound, and other sounds were garbled too, at least initially.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Tom, How is the sound for other aps or music?
Love in Christ
From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 6:59 PM To: 'jfw list' Subject: Muffled And Distorted Audio With Jaws On New Windows 10 Computer
Hello, everyone.
I am in the process of setting up a new Windows 10 computer with Jaws 2018.
I hadn’t used the computer for a couple of days, and when I booted it up this evening, Jaws came up, but was rather distorted and crackly at times.
In other words, the audio simply isn’t as it should be.
I raised and lowered the speaker volume, but the overall Jaws sound is still distorted.
I only have the latest build of Jaws 2018 on this computer.
This computer has 16 gigabytes of RAM, and a new I7 processor, so I know there are plenty of resources to work with.
What am I doing wrong here, and how can I correct this issue?
Thank you!
Tom Behler
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Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10
Mario
nope, Brian's right about that. I recall there was one instance where
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navigating to the beginning or end of a Wordpad document sounded a double ding sound. and JAWS users were wondering why this was happening. the fix was to disable the topandbottom event to be silenced in quick settings, due to that Wordpad had it's own topandbottom sound which could not be disabled because it was embedded and there wasn't a setting to disable it. but that was some time ago.
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From: Marty Hutchings [mailto:mhutchings@wi.rr.com] Sent: Sat, Nov 24, 2018 10:33 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10 I am running JFW 18 and Windows 7 and I have those sounds. I thought that they were JAWS sounds, not Windows sounds. Love in Christ Marty From: Brian Vogel Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:24 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10 Kim, "Top/Bottom of current window" and "when download completes" are not standard Windows sounds. Are you certain you didn't have some sort of third party software installed that was doing this?
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Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10
Richard Turner
Mike, you are right. I have that setting on sound for Word/Outlook, and if I’m in a message or a document, and arrow to the top or bottom, I hear a sound.
I also have it on for Windows Explorer, but no sound when I hit the top or bottom of a folder…
Richard
“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:23 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10
Hi Kimber,
I don't know which program event is supposed to notify you when you are at the top or bottom of the page but, to turn this on you do that in the Jaws quick settings, Insert / Jaws key + V for each application. Take care. Go Rams! ----- Original Message ----- From: Kimber Gardner To: main Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 12:14 AM Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10
Hi all,
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Re: JAWS 2019 and tracked changes in MS Word
Paul Hunt <prhunt1@...>
Hello Edward. This is really cool. I didn’t know about this update in JAWS. Thanks so much for sharing this with the list. When was this feature added? Thanks so much. Paul
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 2:58 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 and tracked changes in MS Word
Hi Loreal,
Whether or not you are working with a .doc or .docx file shouldn't affect how track changes work.
To toggle track changes on and off while typing, press shift+control+e.
Probably the most efficient way to review changes in a document is to press windows key+semi-colon which brings up a JAWS dialog of things you can review such as comments and footnotes. From the resultant list, choose "revisions" and press enter.
The changes should now appear in the virtual viewer, with a numbered link above each. Activating this link will take you to the relevant part of the text in which the change appears.
I hope this is a useful start.
Cheers,
Ed
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Re: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10
Mario
is Automatic Notification of Updates check box checked?
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insert+j, options menu, basics submenu, tab to Automatic Notification of Updates check box, and spacebar to check if it is not already checked.
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From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:o.addisongethers@gmail.com] Sent: Sat, Nov 24, 2018 10:30 AM EST To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10 Hello All I have desktop computer window 10 and jaws 2018 I noticed this is sound strange about jaws update window never came on to asked me if I want toinstall jaws update because when I turns on my laptop computer on Tuesday morning I heard the window screen came open to say do I want to install jaws update now !! Can anyone tell me why is my desktop is not doing that? What do I need to do to fix this problem? Addison
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Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10
Marty Hutchings
I am running JFW 18 and Windows 7 and I have those sounds. I thought
that they were JAWS sounds, not Windows sounds.
Love in
Christ
Marty
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows
10 Kim, "Top/Bottom of current window" and "when download completes" are not standard Windows sounds. Are you certain you didn't have some sort of third party software installed that was doing this? -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10
O.Addison Gethers
Hello All I have desktop computer window 10 and jaws 2018 I noticed this is sound strange about jaws update window never came on to asked me if I want toinstall jaws update because when I turns on my laptop computer on Tuesday morning I heard the window screen came open to say do I want to install jaws update now !! Can anyone tell me why is my desktop is not doing that? What do I need to do to fix this problem? Addison
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Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI
Marty Hutchings
Are you even sure that the refurbished machine has JAWS on it?
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Love in Christ Marty
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From: Kimber Gardner Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:25 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI Hi, So if I'm understanding correctly, you updated this new windows 10 computer a few days ago and jaws hasn't spoken since? Try turning on Narrator which is the built-in windows screen reader. The key combo to do this is windows + control +enter. This key combo is a toggle so press it once to turn narrator on and press it again to turn it off. Using it you will be able to see what's going on and get to the jaws icon so you can start jaws. At the very least you will be able to see what's on your screen. I hope this helps. Kim On 11/23/18, Val Paul <vpcara79@gmail.com> wrote: Hi good friends! -- Kimberly
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Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI
Mario
Dr. JAWS? is that still available in JAWS 2018, or is Dr. JAWS a
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standalone program that needs to be installed?
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From: Isaac [mailto:bigikemusic@gmail.com] Sent: Sat, Nov 24, 2018 2:30 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Updating win10 on new pcHI Jaws is autistic and has gone in to shutdown mode, just wrap your arms around him and he'll calm down and come back to life. If not you'll have to call Dr. Jaws. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimber Gardner" <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:25 AM Subject: Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI Hi, So if I'm understanding correctly, you updated this new windows 10 computer a few days ago and jaws hasn't spoken since? Try turning on Narrator which is the built-in windows screen reader. The key combo to do this is windows + control +enter. This key combo is a toggle so press it once to turn narrator on and press it again to turn it off. Using it you will be able to see what's going on and get to the jaws icon so you can start jaws. At the very least you will be able to see what's on your screen. I hope this helps. Kim On 11/23/18, Val Paul <vpcara79@gmail.com> wrote: Hi good friends! As you can see by this email, i’ve had to resort to my Iphone to send this. I would be glad of some help. [always seem to require help these days] As i’ve been having trouble with the USB drives on my pc, i took my pc to a friend who has become the manager of a new computer shop just open. Actually, he came to see me as i’m not walking very well with my hip which i recently broke. He took away my pc and brought m me a refurbished one. What i’d like help with is when i set it up, it said that i was well out of date, so installed the update helper, this was on Wednesday and it still hasn’t spoke to tell me if i’ve installed it correctly. How can i check this please? Sorry for sending such a long message, but i’m trying my best to give you the correct details. Val.
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Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10
Kim,
"Top/Bottom of current window" and "when download completes" are not standard Windows sounds. Are you certain you didn't have some sort of third party software installed that was doing this? -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10
Mike B. <mike9902@...>
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Hi Kimber,
I don't know which
program event is supposed to notify you when you are at the top or bottom of the
page but, to turn this on you do that in the Jaws quick settings, Insert /
Jaws key + V for each application.
Take care. Go Rams! Sent from my iBarstool. I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!
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From: Kimber
Gardner
To: main
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 12:14 AM
Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10 On my new windows 10 laptop, I would like to set up a few system sounds associated with certain events. For example, under windows 7, I used to hear a ding when my cursor encountered the top or bottom of the current window. Also, I used to hear a sound when a download completed. Although I've found the system sounds in settings and reviewed the list of program events, I can't figure out how to set these sounds. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. Kim -- Kimberly
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Jaws 2019 disk
Don H
Got my Jaws 2019 disk on Friday November 23. Might make a nice coaster if it did not have that big hole in the middle.
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