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moderated Re: Pronunciation changes in Vocalizer Expressive

Dan Longmore
 

Yes, I have often found that words are stated differently in “say All” as opposed to reading by word.  Vocalizer Expressive is the worst with this.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dale Heltzer
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 7:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Pronunciation changes in Vocalizer Expressive

 

Sometimes while reading a document, I notice that my Vocalizer Expressive voices have odd pronunciations for some common words. However, when I stop and use JAWS to hear the specific word pronounced alone, the pronunciation is correct.

I *don’t think it’s an artifact of my own organic language processing <g>.

Has anyone else had this experience?

 

TIA

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 12:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PowerPoint

 

Yes You can    insert pictures from Powerpoint directly. To  do that, do the following steps. 

1. open PowerPoint and find a blank presentation. 

2.  Press Ault+N to  bring up the  insert menu. 

3. Press O to activate Online Pictures. 

4. Once you pressed O, you can type in the image you want. 

This is the quickest way to obtain images without going to IE or Chrome. 

I hope this helps

best regards 

michael Munn 


moderated Pronunciation changes in Vocalizer Expressive

Dale Heltzer
 

Sometimes while reading a document, I notice that my Vocalizer Expressive voices have odd pronunciations for some common words. However, when I stop and use JAWS to hear the specific word pronounced alone, the pronunciation is correct.

I *don’t think it’s an artifact of my own organic language processing <g>.

Has anyone else had this experience?

 

TIA

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 12:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PowerPoint

 

Yes You can    insert pictures from Powerpoint directly. To  do that, do the following steps. 

1. open PowerPoint and find a blank presentation. 

2.  Press Ault+N to  bring up the  insert menu. 

3. Press O to activate Online Pictures. 

4. Once you pressed O, you can type in the image you want. 

This is the quickest way to obtain images without going to IE or Chrome. 

I hope this helps

best regards 

michael Munn 

 


moderated Re: Out Of Curiosity...

 

I don't think you can import Jaws 15 settings into Jaws 2021 any more.

 

Also, this is strictly my opinion and my advice, I recommend you learn Windows 10 as it is without trying to make it behave like Windows 7. It really is not so much different and there are resources available. If you use something like Classic Shell there is always the risk that one day it will stop working and I find, for example, that Windows 10 is much more like Windows 7 than Windows 8 was. You have a comprehensive Settings app similar to what you have on a smartphone, but while certain things in my opinion are easier to access via Settings, there still is the familiar Control Panel as well as the device manager.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 7:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Out Of Curiosity...

 

Annabelle, just be sure to export your old Jaws settings so you can import them into the new Jaws.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 9:34 PM

Subject: Out Of Curiosity...

 

Is the latest version of JAWS similar to versions like JAWS 15? The reason why I ask this is because I'm getting a new computer to replace my old Dell. This one will have Windows 10, which I initially wasn't looking forward to, but I actually found out that you can make Windows 10 behave like prior versions, thanks to https://www.classicshell.net.


moderated Re: Out Of Curiosity...

Glenn / Lenny
 


Annabelle, just be sure to export your old Jaws settings so you can import them into the new Jaws.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 9:34 PM
Subject: Out Of Curiosity...

Is the latest version of JAWS similar to versions like JAWS 15? The reason why I ask this is because I'm getting a new computer to replace my old Dell. This one will have Windows 10, which I initially wasn't looking forward to, but I actually found out that you can make Windows 10 behave like prior versions, thanks to https://www.classicshell.net.


moderated Re: Out Of Curiosity...

Glenn / Lenny
 


Hi Annabelle,
The only differences might be something you haven't learned yet.
So whatever you knew in using Jaws will be the same.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 9:34 PM
Subject: Out Of Curiosity...

Is the latest version of JAWS similar to versions like JAWS 15? The reason why I ask this is because I'm getting a new computer to replace my old Dell. This one will have Windows 10, which I initially wasn't looking forward to, but I actually found out that you can make Windows 10 behave like prior versions, thanks to https://www.classicshell.net.


moderated Re: Out Of Curiosity...

Richard Turner
 

Yes and no.
It is 7 versions newer. It is far more complex because it does so very much more, like OCR, picture description, and more.
But, I think the menus are very similar to the older Jaws.
You may want to install the demo version which runs for 40 minutes before you have to reboot.



Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On May 4, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:


Is the latest version of JAWS similar to versions like JAWS 15? The reason why I ask this is because I'm getting a new computer to replace my old Dell. This one will have Windows 10, which I initially wasn't looking forward to, but I actually found out that you can make Windows 10 behave like prior versions, thanks to https://www.classicshell.net.


moderated Out Of Curiosity...

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Is the latest version of JAWS similar to versions like JAWS 15? The reason why I ask this is because I'm getting a new computer to replace my old Dell. This one will have Windows 10, which I initially wasn't looking forward to, but I actually found out that you can make Windows 10 behave like prior versions, thanks to https://www.classicshell.net.


moderated Re: jaws repair

Ron Pelletier
 

Hi,

 

I haven’t had much success with a repair. The best thing is to download a fresh version of JAWS from the Vispero web site and install it right on top of yours. You won’t have to authorize again either.

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 5:08 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: jaws repair

 

Hi list,

I can’t figure out for the life of me how to do a Jaws repair in Jaws 2021. I haven’t done one in so long and not sure where it is. I installed Jaws on a new lap top and it is very slow/ not very responsive, thinking I need to do a repair. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

Drew


moderated Re: jaws repair

Dan Longmore
 

Could have had a bad install.  Either repair or remove and re install.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 5:08 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: jaws repair

 

Hi list,

I can’t figure out for the life of me how to do a Jaws repair in Jaws 2021. I haven’t done one in so long and not sure where it is. I installed Jaws on a new lap top and it is very slow/ not very responsive, thinking I need to do a repair. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

Drew


moderated Re: jaws repair

Milton Ota
 

It might not be a JAWS problem and you should maybe run diskcleanup to clean unwanted files on your hard drive. I would do that first before attempting to do a JAWS repair.

 

Also it would be a good idea to check to see that your Windows update has received all the updates.

 

I would start there!

 

 

Milton Ota

ICAN Island Computer Access Now

4273 Coventry Dr., S.

Unit E

Fargo, ND 58104-4498

 

Ph: (701) 731-0511

Email: mota1252@...

 

               

 


moderated Re: jaws repair

Richard Turner
 

Just run the install file and you will get the option to do a repair.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:08 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: jaws repair

 

Hi list,

I can’t figure out for the life of me how to do a Jaws repair in Jaws 2021. I haven’t done one in so long and not sure where it is. I installed Jaws on a new lap top and it is very slow/ not very responsive, thinking I need to do a repair. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

Drew


moderated jaws repair

Drew Hunthausen
 

Hi list,

I can’t figure out for the life of me how to do a Jaws repair in Jaws 2021. I haven’t done one in so long and not sure where it is. I installed Jaws on a new lap top and it is very slow/ not very responsive, thinking I need to do a repair. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

Drew


moderated Re: How do you pair the Logitech K860?

Richard Turner
 

I don’t know if there is a difference between the Ergonomic k860 and/or if there is a K860 that is not ergonomic, but mine has 3 dedicated device keys, not f1-f3.

It could be there are two models, one ergonomic, which I have, and one that is straight keyboard.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Hicks
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 12:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do you pair the Logitech K860?

 

Yes, if you hold down the f1, f2 or f3 keys for about ten seconds, that should put the device in to pairing mode for that particular function key.

I Do find it quite fiddly and hit and miss so you may have to try a few times and also there is a code that appears that you need to type in, this screen is quite fiddly as well.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 04 May 2021 19:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do you pair the Logitech K860?

 

I just held down the device key I wanted to use.

Note, if you use the USB dongle with a computer, that takes up device 1.

So you have 2 bluetooth devices still available, or don’t use the USB dongle and you have 3, of course.

 

I find Bluetooth and Windows is a combination best suited for people who like tech headaches.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 11:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How do you pair the Logitech K860?

 

Hi.

 

I’ll be getting one of these on May 14, and I was going to use it with my devices over Bluetooth. I was wondering how to put it in pairing mode? My guess is either press and hold one of the device selector keys, or press that in combination with the FN key.

 

Just curious.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

 

Kevin and Jilly


moderated Re: How do you pair the Logitech K860?

Steven Hicks
 

Yes, if you hold down the f1, f2 or f3 keys for about ten seconds, that should put the device in to pairing mode for that particular function key.

I Do find it quite fiddly and hit and miss so you may have to try a few times and also there is a code that appears that you need to type in, this screen is quite fiddly as well.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 04 May 2021 19:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do you pair the Logitech K860?

 

I just held down the device key I wanted to use.

Note, if you use the USB dongle with a computer, that takes up device 1.

So you have 2 bluetooth devices still available, or don’t use the USB dongle and you have 3, of course.

 

I find Bluetooth and Windows is a combination best suited for people who like tech headaches.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 11:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How do you pair the Logitech K860?

 

Hi.

 

I’ll be getting one of these on May 14, and I was going to use it with my devices over Bluetooth. I was wondering how to put it in pairing mode? My guess is either press and hold one of the device selector keys, or press that in combination with the FN key.

 

Just curious.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

 

Kevin and Jilly


moderated Re: How do you pair the Logitech K860?

Richard Turner
 

I just held down the device key I wanted to use.

Note, if you use the USB dongle with a computer, that takes up device 1.

So you have 2 bluetooth devices still available, or don’t use the USB dongle and you have 3, of course.

 

I find Bluetooth and Windows is a combination best suited for people who like tech headaches.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 11:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How do you pair the Logitech K860?

 

Hi.

 

I’ll be getting one of these on May 14, and I was going to use it with my devices over Bluetooth. I was wondering how to put it in pairing mode? My guess is either press and hold one of the device selector keys, or press that in combination with the FN key.

 

Just curious.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

 

Kevin and Jilly


moderated How do you pair the Logitech K860?

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

I’ll be getting one of these on May 14, and I was going to use it with my devices over Bluetooth. I was wondering how to put it in pairing mode? My guess is either press and hold one of the device selector keys, or press that in combination with the FN key.

 

Just curious.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

 

Kevin and Jilly


moderated Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

Thomas N. Chan
 

As what other list member mention,, do not remove the share component.
You can remove the jaws scripts and settings of that particular jaws version from
C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\Settings\enu

the example of username is your logon profile name and also 2020 is the version example of old version of jaws.

To be honest, I will not bother. All my settings is not even 1mb.

Regards,
Thomas N. Chan


On Wed, 5 May 2021 at 00:09, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:
I am not sure what you mean by the "Device Manager Option" since the device manager as the name indicates is for "devices" and not software.
Whether you go to Settings > Apps > Apps and Features and tab to the list of installed apps or Control Panel > Programs and Features makes no difference, it's the same thing except that with Control Panel > Programs and Features you are directly in the list of installed apps whereas going to "Apps and Features" requires you to tab a few times to get into the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

Good afternoon gentlemen,

After reading this particular thread,  I'd like too ask those of you that have done this the following question.  Is it  better to uninstall programs like Jaws or other applications and programs, by doing  this process through the add remove option, or through either control panel or using the device
manager option.   

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

Hi Richard,

I always remove my previous version of Jaws once I am satisfied that the latest version is doing all I need it to do. You can safely select to remove the User Settings, but as others pointed out, do not remove shared settings because neither Jaws 2021 nor Openbook would work any more and you would have to reinstall/repair those programs.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

As I said, I have no need of the older programs, and I haven't done a tandem session but once and that was with Eric Damery of FS.

Thanks,



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

Another good reason for leaving it, is if someone with only an older version is helping you, and you want them to tandem in, they cannot do it if your Jaws is newer than theirs.
Plus, some legacy programs work better with older Jaws.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Turner" <richardturner42@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws


Thanks John,
I thought that was the case.
All my cleanup is done.
Thanks again,



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site:
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 7:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

But whatever you do, DO NOT remove the shared components, this will make your current version of Jaws inoperative.

On Tue, 04 May 2021 09:55:24 -0400,
Glenn / Lenny wrote:
>
> [1  <text/plain; iso-8859-1 (quoted-printable)>] If you want to remove
> clutter, just remove the shortcuts on the desktop, and move the start
> menu shortcuts to a cleaner spot.
> Unless your computer is short on space, you have much to gain by
> leaving them.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Turner
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 8:52 AM
> Subject: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have decided since I have not needed to use any of the 3 older
> versions of Jaws since installing 2021, I would like to tap the wisdom
> of this list.
>
> There are two items that pop up, Remove Shared Components, and remove
> User settings.
>
> Will removing both of those impact my Jaws 2021 installation?
>
>
>
> I know FS uses shared components a lot, and I also have OpenBook 9 on
> this machine, so want to tread lightly.
>
>
>
> And, in case it comes up, I know it isn't hurting my computer to leave
> them, but I want to remove them to reduce clutter.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it,
> but what they become by it."
>
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
>
>
> Web site:
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moderated Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

 

I am not sure what you mean by the "Device Manager Option" since the device manager as the name indicates is for "devices" and not software.
Whether you go to Settings > Apps > Apps and Features and tab to the list of installed apps or Control Panel > Programs and Features makes no difference, it's the same thing except that with Control Panel > Programs and Features you are directly in the list of installed apps whereas going to "Apps and Features" requires you to tab a few times to get into the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

Good afternoon gentlemen,

After reading this particular thread, I'd like too ask those of you that have done this the following question. Is it better to uninstall programs like Jaws or other applications and programs, by doing this process through the add remove option, or through either control panel or using the device
manager option.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

Hi Richard,

I always remove my previous version of Jaws once I am satisfied that the latest version is doing all I need it to do. You can safely select to remove the User Settings, but as others pointed out, do not remove shared settings because neither Jaws 2021 nor Openbook would work any more and you would have to reinstall/repair those programs.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

As I said, I have no need of the older programs, and I haven't done a tandem session but once and that was with Eric Damery of FS.

Thanks,



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

Another good reason for leaving it, is if someone with only an older version is helping you, and you want them to tandem in, they cannot do it if your Jaws is newer than theirs.
Plus, some legacy programs work better with older Jaws.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Turner" <richardturner42@outlook.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws


Thanks John,
I thought that was the case.
All my cleanup is done.
Thanks again,



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb45d8d52421b40d73e9408d90f0dd9a3%7C84df9e7fe9f
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 7:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

But whatever you do, DO NOT remove the shared components, this will make your current version of Jaws inoperative.

On Tue, 04 May 2021 09:55:24 -0400,
Glenn / Lenny wrote:

[1 <text/plain; iso-8859-1 (quoted-printable)>] If you want to remove
clutter, just remove the shortcuts on the desktop, and move the start
menu shortcuts to a cleaner spot.
Unless your computer is short on space, you have much to gain by
leaving them.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 8:52 AM
Subject: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws


Hello,

I have decided since I have not needed to use any of the 3 older
versions of Jaws since installing 2021, I would like to tap the wisdom
of this list.

There are two items that pop up, Remove Shared Components, and remove
User settings.

Will removing both of those impact my Jaws 2021 installation?



I know FS uses shared components a lot, and I also have OpenBook 9 on
this machine, so want to tread lightly.



And, in case it comes up, I know it isn't hurting my computer to leave
them, but I want to remove them to reduce clutter.



Thanks,



Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it,
but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



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moderated Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

Albert Cutolo
 

Good afternoon gentlemen,

After reading this particular thread, I'd like too ask those of you that
have done this the following question. Is it better to uninstall programs
like Jaws or other applications and programs, by doing this process through
the add remove option, or through either control panel or using the device
manager option.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

Hi Richard,

I always remove my previous version of Jaws once I am satisfied that the
latest version is doing all I need it to do. You can safely select to remove
the User Settings, but as others pointed out, do not remove shared settings
because neither Jaws 2021 nor Openbook would work any more and you would
have to reinstall/repair those programs.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

As I said, I have no need of the older programs, and I haven't done a tandem
session but once and that was with Eric Damery of FS.

Thanks,



Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

Another good reason for leaving it, is if someone with only an older version
is helping you, and you want them to tandem in, they cannot do it if your
Jaws is newer than theirs.
Plus, some legacy programs work better with older Jaws.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Turner" <richardturner42@outlook.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws


Thanks John,
I thought that was the case.
All my cleanup is done.
Thanks again,



Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 7:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

But whatever you do, DO NOT remove the shared components, this will make
your current version of Jaws inoperative.

On Tue, 04 May 2021 09:55:24 -0400,
Glenn / Lenny wrote:

[1 <text/plain; iso-8859-1 (quoted-printable)>] If you want to remove
clutter, just remove the shortcuts on the desktop, and move the start
menu shortcuts to a cleaner spot.
Unless your computer is short on space, you have much to gain by
leaving them.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 8:52 AM
Subject: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws


Hello,

I have decided since I have not needed to use any of the 3 older
versions of Jaws since installing 2021, I would like to tap the wisdom
of this list.

There are two items that pop up, Remove Shared Components, and remove
User settings.

Will removing both of those impact my Jaws 2021 installation?



I know FS uses shared components a lot, and I also have OpenBook 9 on
this machine, so want to tread lightly.



And, in case it comes up, I know it isn't hurting my computer to leave
them, but I want to remove them to reduce clutter.



Thanks,



Richard

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moderated Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

Richard Turner
 

I rembered remembered about the shared settings from my years of Openbook beta testing.
Of course, at that time, I was a Window-eyes user so they were not that important since I would end up at many points needing to start completely fresh.
I had not done a Jaws uninstall since Jaws 18, my first year with Jaws on my home machine. So, I had 2018-21 installed and had not launched any older versions since I installed 2021.

Like you, I see no need to keep older versions when the current one proves it meets my needs.

Later,

Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

Hi Richard,

I always remove my previous version of Jaws once I am satisfied that the latest version is doing all I need it to do. You can safely select to remove the User Settings, but as others pointed out, do not remove shared settings because neither Jaws 2021 nor Openbook would work any more and you would have to reinstall/repair those programs.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

As I said, I have no need of the older programs, and I haven't done a tandem session but once and that was with Eric Damery of FS.

Thanks,



Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

Another good reason for leaving it, is if someone with only an older version is helping you, and you want them to tandem in, they cannot do it if your Jaws is newer than theirs.
Plus, some legacy programs work better with older Jaws.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Turner" <richardturner42@outlook.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws


Thanks John,
I thought that was the case.
All my cleanup is done.
Thanks again,



Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 7:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws

But whatever you do, DO NOT remove the shared components, this will make your current version of Jaws inoperative.

On Tue, 04 May 2021 09:55:24 -0400,
Glenn / Lenny wrote:

[1 <text/plain; iso-8859-1 (quoted-printable)>] If you want to remove
clutter, just remove the shortcuts on the desktop, and move the start
menu shortcuts to a cleaner spot.
Unless your computer is short on space, you have much to gain by
leaving them.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 8:52 AM
Subject: Uninstalling old copies of Jaws


Hello,

I have decided since I have not needed to use any of the 3 older
versions of Jaws since installing 2021, I would like to tap the wisdom
of this list.

There are two items that pop up, Remove Shared Components, and remove
User settings.

Will removing both of those impact my Jaws 2021 installation?



I know FS uses shared components a lot, and I also have OpenBook 9 on
this machine, so want to tread lightly.



And, in case it comes up, I know it isn't hurting my computer to leave
them, but I want to remove them to reduce clutter.



Thanks,



Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it,
but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



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