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Hi: I bet you’re right. If you’re moving the entire contents, everything will be set the same way. Whether there is a way to have Windows look again at hardware or not, I have no idea. When I’ve installed the ssd’s on my systems, I’ve always done a clean install, so I may not have run into this issue. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Chris HillSent: Monday, February 4, 2019 10:25 AM To: main@jfw.groups.ioSubject: Re: Processor speed Here is an article on it: https://www.thewindowsclub.com/disable-superfetch-prefetch-ssd They claim that windows will do this automatically if you install an ssd. I've installed three ssd's and windows 10 doesn't seem to do it automatically. It might be different with a new install of windows, but if you are putting your old operating system onto your new ssd, you should probably at least check to make sure prefetch and superfetch are disabled. On 2/4/2019 08:23, Steve Nutt wrote: Hi, I don’t believe it does. Where do you go to turn those off? Thanks. All the best
Steve
Ideally, superfetch and prefetch should be turned off in the registry after the operating system is moved to a ssd, I don't believe Macrium Reflect will do that for you., if it does that would save some steps. On 2/4/2019 03:02, Steve Nutt wrote: Hi, No need to monkey with the registry, just use Macrium Reflect which is free, and image the drive. I put an SSD into my old laptop the other day, and the speed is amazing. All the best Steve Actually, if the person doing the swapping knows what they are about, the windows, programs and all the data can be easily copied. All one need do is to change a couple of registry settings so windows treats the ssd properly once the new drive is installed. You make good points on the ease of dismantling the machine. If I was him, I wouldn't even bother with best buy, find a local place that works on stuff and has a good reputation, you're more likely to get someone who will do the job right and put in the necessary time. On 2/3/2019 17:15, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: That is a fairly generic 1Tb 2.5 inch laptop hard drive with 32Mb of Cache and 5,400 RPM (revolutions per minute). I can see that after a little over 3 years this is not going to be the fastest, as I said before and now that it is confirmed you have a regular hard drive, you would get the most speed boost out of replacing this with a solid state drive. You would have to see how much space of this you use, but you would most likely want a 512Gb SSD, it is half the size of your current drive, but as far as what you get for your buck this is pretty much where the sweet spot is now. If you go to 240Gb you may run into space issues and you only save maybe $30 or $40, but if you want a 1Tb SSD (same size as what you have now) you’ll pay double of what a 512Gb costs, prices are constantly coming down and in a couple of years you’ll probably be able to buy a 1Tb for the same price as a 512Gb now, but that won’t do you any good. Of course you can just put up with longer boot times and loading times of applications and keep it the way it is. You would have to check anyways if this laptop you have can even be easily opened up, some of these convertible tablets/laptop thingies are sealed and changing components is not easily possible. Then of course there is the consideration whether it is worth putting $100 or $150 into it, I assume you can’t switch the drives out yourself and I have no idea what a place like Best Buy would charge for that. Keep in mind that you want to make sure you have a good backup of all your data and that whatever applications you have are available for a fresh install either by download or that you have the installers on a USB stick. If you change drives you start out with a fresh install of Windows which if you are comfortable with it you can do yourself with Narrator, then you have to install Jaws or NVDA (whatever you use) and after that install things like Chrome and/or Firefox, Office, iTunes or whatever applications you use. Depending on how much user data you have on your current hard drive you could copy it to an external hard drive first. You can get a 1Tb external drive in the States probably for $50 or $60 so not such a big expense and it is something you then have and can continue to use. As for David’s comments on RAM, whether you buy a laptop or other computer, they do come with whatever RAM is supported by your CPU. You could not put DDR 4 RAM into your laptop which I am quite sure has and can only take DDR 3 RAM. If you have a custom system built you want to of course make sure you get the best RAM possible for your processor and motherboard at the time, beyond that RAM speed is not really a big issue and how much cache a hard drive has is also a lot less important than whether you have a hard drive or SSD. Regards, Sieghard From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed Here is the information about the drive of this laptop: HGST HTS541010A7E630 I got this from the disc and Drive section of the device manager. Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind along the lines of talking about the processer speed, it also should be noted about the size of the hard drive cache, also you can't forget that the faster the processer speed the ram speed might have something to do with the speed as well. as an example the faster processers of today need the faster ram like ddr4 ram if i'm not mistaken. -----Original Message-----
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Feb 2, 2019 5:15 PM
To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Hi Michael, the start up speed is due to the type of hard drive that you have. There are hard drives with lower revolutions per minute and higher revolutions per minute and then there are solid state drives which are quicker. There are settings that can be adjusted to change how your windows machine loads.
On Feb 2, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Well, don't give up. If the slow machine doesn't have one (most likely) you should consider having a solid state drive (ssd) installed. Your boot speed will go up a lot. You can often get away with a much smaller drive if you aren't using all of what you have. I went from a 1tb drive on my old laptop to a 512gb ssd. At that time, 1tb was more than i wanted to spend. It helped a lot. I eventually took that drive and put it in my wife's machine and gave up on my 8-year-old laptop, it was way slower than what you have. Good luck. CH On 2/2/2019 16:49, Michael Munn wrote: Thanks all. Yes the start up time really drive's me crazy. I used two different computers, one of them is faster then the other. I just want to know the information of the speed. Thanks for answering my question. Michael Munn Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind If applications are running more slowly than you would like, it would be best to find out why before investing in any new hardware. If I recall correctly, Performance Monitor will show you how much your CPU, memory and storage are being used over time. Some of the same information is in Task Manager as well. On 2/2/19 2:06 PM, Michael Munn wrote: Thanks so much for the detail. i really appreciate it. I got this laptop in DECEMBER of 2015. It's the current generation at that point. I just want to know about the information of the laptop that I'm currently using. Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote: And if you are gaming over the internet and you are on a 6 Mbps ADSL connection a super-fast computer with the latest processor and 32Gb of RAM won’t do you much good. Computers are a system and they are made up of various components and they all play a roll. To again use my car example from the previous email, the high-end Mercedes or BMW which can go 160 or 180 miles an hour won’t do you much good if you are taking the Road to Hanna on Maui. For those who don’t know of it, it’s a 2-lane highway which over a distance of just over 64 miles has approximately 620 curves many of them hairpin turns and you can rarely go faster than 30 miles an hour. In this case that highway would be equivalent to your internet connection speed. I can take my 7-year old laptop on my 275 Mbps fiber connection and download things a lot faster than somebody with the latest 9th generation I7 system on a much slower connection. all depends on what you are doing. If you're into gaming on line real-time over the internet, then you need one heck of a lot more speed and memory. So it really depends. You're better off than if you still had an Apple II+ with 64k RAM and a 6052 processor. What I'm saying is that this is a very open-ended question, and your answers will vary. For now, you have plenty, and actually more memory than I have, but then I'm a senior citizen. Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 09:56 Hi all, this is Michael. Today I checked the processor of my HP laptop and here is the information I get for the processor: Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor Is 2.2 GHZ enough? and how fast can it run? All comment and answers are greatly appreciate it.
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Here is an article on it:
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/disable-superfetch-prefetch-ssd
They claim that windows will do this automatically if you install
an ssd. I've installed three ssd's and windows 10 doesn't seem to
do it automatically. It might be different with a new install of
windows, but if you are putting your old operating system onto
your new ssd, you should probably at least check to make sure
prefetch and superfetch are disabled.
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On 2/4/2019 08:23, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,
I don’t believe it does. Where do
you go to turn those off?
Thanks.
All the best
Steve
Ideally, superfetch and prefetch should be turned off in the
registry after the operating system is moved to a ssd, I don't
believe Macrium Reflect will do that for you., if it does
that would save some steps.
On 2/4/2019 03:02, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,
No need to monkey with the registry,
just use Macrium Reflect which is free, and image the
drive. I put an SSD into my old laptop the other day, and
the speed is amazing.
All the best
Steve
Actually, if the person doing the swapping knows what
they are about, the windows, programs and all the data can
be easily copied. All one need do is to change a couple
of registry settings so windows treats the ssd properly
once the new drive is installed. You make good points on
the ease of dismantling the machine. If I was him, I
wouldn't even bother with best buy, find a local place
that works on stuff and has a good reputation, you're more
likely to get someone who will do the job right and put in
the necessary time.
On 2/3/2019 17:15, Sieghard Weitzel
wrote:
That is a fairly generic 1Tb 2.5
inch laptop hard drive with 32Mb of Cache and 5,400
RPM (revolutions per minute).
I can see that after a little over
3 years this is not going to be the fastest, as I said
before and now that it is confirmed you have a regular
hard drive, you would get the most speed boost out of
replacing this with a solid state drive. You would
have to see how much space of this you use, but you
would most likely want a 512Gb SSD, it is half the
size of your current drive, but as far as what you get
for your buck this is pretty much where the sweet spot
is now. If you go to 240Gb you may run into space
issues and you only save maybe $30 or $40, but if you
want a 1Tb SSD (same size as what you have now) you’ll
pay double of what a 512Gb costs, prices are
constantly coming down and in a couple of years you’ll
probably be able to buy a 1Tb for the same price as a
512Gb now, but that won’t do you any good. Of course
you can just put up with longer boot times and loading
times of applications and keep it the way it is. You
would have to check anyways if this laptop you have
can even be easily opened up, some of these
convertible tablets/laptop thingies are sealed and
changing components is not easily possible. Then of
course there is the consideration whether it is worth
putting $100 or $150 into it, I assume you can’t
switch the drives out yourself and I have no idea what
a place like Best Buy would charge for that. Keep in
mind that you want to make sure you have a good backup
of all your data and that whatever applications you
have are available for a fresh install either by
download or that you have the installers on a USB
stick. If you change drives you start out with a fresh
install of Windows which if you are comfortable with
it you can do yourself with Narrator, then you have to
install Jaws or NVDA (whatever you use) and after that
install things like Chrome and/or Firefox, Office,
iTunes or whatever applications you use. Depending on
how much user data you have on your current hard drive
you could copy it to an external hard drive first. You
can get a 1Tb external drive in the States probably
for $50 or $60 so not such a big expense and it is
something you then have and can continue to use.
As for David’s comments on RAM,
whether you buy a laptop or other computer, they do
come with whatever RAM is supported by your CPU. You
could not put DDR 4 RAM into your laptop which I am
quite sure has and can only take DDR 3 RAM. If you
have a custom system built you want to of course make
sure you get the best RAM possible for your processor
and motherboard at the time, beyond that RAM speed is
not really a big issue and how much cache a hard drive
has is also a lot less important than whether you have
a hard drive or SSD.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Here is the information about the
drive of this laptop:
HGST HTS541010A7E630
I got this from the
disc and Drive section of the device
manager.
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia
Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland
Association of Blind Students
Students of:
Hadley Institute of the Blind
along the lines of talking
about the processer speed, it also should be
noted about the size of the hard drive cache,
also you can't forget that the faster the
processer speed the ram speed might have
something to do with the speed as well. as an
example the faster processers of today need
the faster ram like ddr4 ram if i'm not
mistaken.
-----Original
Message-----
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Feb 2, 2019 5:15 PM
To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Hi Michael,
the start up speed is
due to the type of hard drive that you
have. There are hard drives with lower
revolutions per minute and higher
revolutions per minute and then there are
solid state drives which are quicker.
There are settings that can be adjusted to
change how your windows machine loads.
On Feb 2, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Chris Hill
<hillco@...>
wrote:
Well, don't give up. If the slow
machine doesn't have one (most
likely) you should consider having a
solid state drive (ssd) installed.
Your boot speed will go up a lot.
You can often get away with a much
smaller drive if you aren't using
all of what you have. I went from a
1tb drive on my old laptop to a
512gb ssd. At that time, 1tb was
more than i wanted to spend. It
helped a lot. I eventually took
that drive and put it in my wife's
machine and gave up on my 8-year-old
laptop, it was way slower than what
you have.
Good luck.
CH
On 2/2/2019
16:49, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks all.
Yes the start up time really
drive's me crazy. I used two
different computers, one of them
is faster then the other. I just
want to know the information of
the speed.
Thanks for
answering my question.
Michael
Munn
Michael
Munn
Member:
Virginia
Association of
Blind students
Member:
Maryland
Association of
Blind Students
Students
of: Hadley
Institute of
the Blind
If applications are running
more slowly than you would
like, it would be best to
find out why before
investing in any new
hardware.
If I recall correctly,
Performance Monitor will
show you how much your CPU,
memory and storage are being
used over time. Some of the
same information is in Task
Manager as well.
On
2/2/19 2:06 PM, Michael
Munn wrote:
Thanks
so much for the detail.
i really appreciate it.
I
got this laptop in
DECEMBER of 2015. It's
the current generation
at that point.
I
just want to know
about the information
of the laptop that I'm
currently using.
Michael
Munn
Member:
Virginia
Association of
Blind students
Member:
Maryland
Association of
Blind Students
Students
of: Hadley
Institute of
the Blind
On
Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at
1:13 PM Sieghard
Weitzel <sieghard@...>
wrote:
And
if you are gaming
over the internet
and you are on a 6
Mbps ADSL
connection a
super-fast
computer with the
latest processor
and 32Gb of RAM
won’t do you much
good. Computers
are a system and
they are made up
of various
components and
they all play a
roll. To again use
my car example
from the previous
email, the
high-end Mercedes
or BMW which can
go 160 or 180
miles an hour
won’t do you much
good if you are
taking the Road to
Hanna on Maui. For
those who don’t
know of it, it’s a
2-lane highway
which over a
distance of just
over 64 miles has
approximately 620
curves many of
them hairpin turns
and you can rarely
go faster than 30
miles an hour. In
this case that
highway would be
equivalent to your
internet
connection speed.
I can take my
7-year old laptop
on my 275 Mbps
fiber connection
and download
things a lot
faster than
somebody with the
latest 9th
generation I7
system on a much
slower connection.
all
depends on what
you are doing.
If you're into
gaming on line
real-time over
the internet,
then you need
one heck of a
lot more speed
and memory. So
it really
depends. You're
better off than
if you still had
an Apple II+
with 64k RAM and
a 6052
processor.
What
I'm saying is
that this is a
very open-ended
question, and
your answers
will vary. For
now, you have
plenty, and
actually more
memory than I
have, but then
I'm a senior
citizen.
Dave
Oregonite,
woodworker,
Engineer,
Musician, and
Pioneer
-----
Original Message
-----
Sent:
Saturday,
February 02,
2019 09:56
Hi
all, this is
Michael.
Today
I checked the
processor of
my HP laptop
and here is
the
information I
get for the
processor:
Processor:
Intel(R)
Core(TM)
i5-5200U CPU @
2.20GHz 2.20
GHz
Installed
memory (RAM):
8.00 GB
System
type: 64-bit
Operating
System,
x64-based
processor
Is
2.2 GHZ
enough? and
how fast can
it run?
All
comment and
answers are
greatly
appreciate it.
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On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 08:28 AM, Joseph Norton wrote:
Fast startup is similar to hibernation, but, when it is enabled, the state of Windows kernel is saved in the hibernation file, not in ram.
Indeed. It's OS hibernation only rather than OS and User State hibernation, which is what full regular hibernation entails. If you have an SSD, Fast Startup is pretty much useless in improving boot speed perceptibly anyway. If you have an HDD, I agree entirely with what Mr. Nutt said in that eventually corruption in the hiberfile causes significant issues that can be truly bizarre. Two of the most difficult issues I ever had to solve were the direct result of corruption in the hiberfile, and it took a very long time to figure out the root cause. As a matter of course, when I'm setting up any Windows 10 system, disabling Fast Startup is a part of my setup protocol. The gains from it are minimal, even with an HDD, compared to the heartache I've seen it cause. I'd rather have a slower system boot time, where I know the OS is being loaded completely from scratch, than deal with the occasional serious issues I've seen Fast Startup create. --
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Hi, I don’t believe it does. Where do you go to turn those off? Thanks. All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: 04 February 2019 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed Ideally, superfetch and prefetch should be turned off in the registry after the operating system is moved to a ssd, I don't believe Macrium Reflect will do that for you., if it does that would save some steps. On 2/4/2019 03:02, Steve Nutt wrote: Hi, No need to monkey with the registry, just use Macrium Reflect which is free, and image the drive. I put an SSD into my old laptop the other day, and the speed is amazing. All the best Steve Actually, if the person doing the swapping knows what they are about, the windows, programs and all the data can be easily copied. All one need do is to change a couple of registry settings so windows treats the ssd properly once the new drive is installed. You make good points on the ease of dismantling the machine. If I was him, I wouldn't even bother with best buy, find a local place that works on stuff and has a good reputation, you're more likely to get someone who will do the job right and put in the necessary time. On 2/3/2019 17:15, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: That is a fairly generic 1Tb 2.5 inch laptop hard drive with 32Mb of Cache and 5,400 RPM (revolutions per minute). I can see that after a little over 3 years this is not going to be the fastest, as I said before and now that it is confirmed you have a regular hard drive, you would get the most speed boost out of replacing this with a solid state drive. You would have to see how much space of this you use, but you would most likely want a 512Gb SSD, it is half the size of your current drive, but as far as what you get for your buck this is pretty much where the sweet spot is now. If you go to 240Gb you may run into space issues and you only save maybe $30 or $40, but if you want a 1Tb SSD (same size as what you have now) you’ll pay double of what a 512Gb costs, prices are constantly coming down and in a couple of years you’ll probably be able to buy a 1Tb for the same price as a 512Gb now, but that won’t do you any good. Of course you can just put up with longer boot times and loading times of applications and keep it the way it is. You would have to check anyways if this laptop you have can even be easily opened up, some of these convertible tablets/laptop thingies are sealed and changing components is not easily possible. Then of course there is the consideration whether it is worth putting $100 or $150 into it, I assume you can’t switch the drives out yourself and I have no idea what a place like Best Buy would charge for that. Keep in mind that you want to make sure you have a good backup of all your data and that whatever applications you have are available for a fresh install either by download or that you have the installers on a USB stick. If you change drives you start out with a fresh install of Windows which if you are comfortable with it you can do yourself with Narrator, then you have to install Jaws or NVDA (whatever you use) and after that install things like Chrome and/or Firefox, Office, iTunes or whatever applications you use. Depending on how much user data you have on your current hard drive you could copy it to an external hard drive first. You can get a 1Tb external drive in the States probably for $50 or $60 so not such a big expense and it is something you then have and can continue to use. As for David’s comments on RAM, whether you buy a laptop or other computer, they do come with whatever RAM is supported by your CPU. You could not put DDR 4 RAM into your laptop which I am quite sure has and can only take DDR 3 RAM. If you have a custom system built you want to of course make sure you get the best RAM possible for your processor and motherboard at the time, beyond that RAM speed is not really a big issue and how much cache a hard drive has is also a lot less important than whether you have a hard drive or SSD. Regards, Sieghard From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed Here is the information about the drive of this laptop: HGST HTS541010A7E630 I got this from the disc and Drive section of the device manager. Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind along the lines of talking about the processer speed, it also should be noted about the size of the hard drive cache, also you can't forget that the faster the processer speed the ram speed might have something to do with the speed as well. as an example the faster processers of today need the faster ram like ddr4 ram if i'm not mistaken. -----Original Message-----
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Feb 2, 2019 5:15 PM
To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Hi Michael, the start up speed is due to the type of hard drive that you have. There are hard drives with lower revolutions per minute and higher revolutions per minute and then there are solid state drives which are quicker. There are settings that can be adjusted to change how your windows machine loads.
On Feb 2, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Well, don't give up. If the slow machine doesn't have one (most likely) you should consider having a solid state drive (ssd) installed. Your boot speed will go up a lot. You can often get away with a much smaller drive if you aren't using all of what you have. I went from a 1tb drive on my old laptop to a 512gb ssd. At that time, 1tb was more than i wanted to spend. It helped a lot. I eventually took that drive and put it in my wife's machine and gave up on my 8-year-old laptop, it was way slower than what you have. Good luck. CH On 2/2/2019 16:49, Michael Munn wrote: Thanks all. Yes the start up time really drive's me crazy. I used two different computers, one of them is faster then the other. I just want to know the information of the speed. Thanks for answering my question. Michael Munn Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind If applications are running more slowly than you would like, it would be best to find out why before investing in any new hardware. If I recall correctly, Performance Monitor will show you how much your CPU, memory and storage are being used over time. Some of the same information is in Task Manager as well. On 2/2/19 2:06 PM, Michael Munn wrote: Thanks so much for the detail. i really appreciate it. I got this laptop in DECEMBER of 2015. It's the current generation at that point. I just want to know about the information of the laptop that I'm currently using. Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote: And if you are gaming over the internet and you are on a 6 Mbps ADSL connection a super-fast computer with the latest processor and 32Gb of RAM won’t do you much good. Computers are a system and they are made up of various components and they all play a roll. To again use my car example from the previous email, the high-end Mercedes or BMW which can go 160 or 180 miles an hour won’t do you much good if you are taking the Road to Hanna on Maui. For those who don’t know of it, it’s a 2-lane highway which over a distance of just over 64 miles has approximately 620 curves many of them hairpin turns and you can rarely go faster than 30 miles an hour. In this case that highway would be equivalent to your internet connection speed. I can take my 7-year old laptop on my 275 Mbps fiber connection and download things a lot faster than somebody with the latest 9th generation I7 system on a much slower connection. all depends on what you are doing. If you're into gaming on line real-time over the internet, then you need one heck of a lot more speed and memory. So it really depends. You're better off than if you still had an Apple II+ with 64k RAM and a 6052 processor. What I'm saying is that this is a very open-ended question, and your answers will vary. For now, you have plenty, and actually more memory than I have, but then I'm a senior citizen. Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 09:56 Hi all, this is Michael. Today I checked the processor of my HP laptop and here is the information I get for the processor: Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor Is 2.2 GHZ enough? and how fast can it run? All comment and answers are greatly appreciate it.
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There are certainly things to be aware of when using “fast startup”. Fast startup is similar to hibernation, but, when it is enabled, the state of Windows kernel is saved in the hibernation file, not in ram. So, when you shutdown with fast startup enabled, Windows logs all users out and returns to a state similar to when Windows is first booted up, no users logged in. Then, it saves that state to the hibernation file. Here is an article on HowToGeek explaining more about the pros and cons of fast startup. https://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-and-cons-of-windows-10s-fast-startup-mode/ Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Steve NuttSent: Monday, February 4, 2019 4:03 AM To: main@jfw.groups.ioSubject: Re: Processor speed Hi, I don’t recommend fast startup in any situation to be honest. It stores the computer’s state completely in RAM and tries to bring it back, that’s how it starts up fast. More often than not though, it corrupts what’s in memory, so you have to reboot anyway, that’s my experience. All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: 04 February 2019 01:11
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed Michael, Windows has a feature by the name of fast start up. I would suggest you try enabling it and see how you like your computer before upgrading your hard drive to a solid-state drive if it’s not already enabled. Computers that I have worked with in the past have performed like a new computer once this setting was enabled.
On Feb 3, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Actually, if the person doing the swapping knows what they are about, the windows, programs and all the data can be easily copied. All one need do is to change a couple of registry settings so windows treats the ssd properly once the new drive is installed. You make good points on the ease of dismantling the machine. If I was him, I wouldn't even bother with best buy, find a local place that works on stuff and has a good reputation, you're more likely to get someone who will do the job right and put in the necessary time. On 2/3/2019 17:15, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: That is a fairly generic 1Tb 2.5 inch laptop hard drive with 32Mb of Cache and 5,400 RPM (revolutions per minute). I can see that after a little over 3 years this is not going to be the fastest, as I said before and now that it is confirmed you have a regular hard drive, you would get the most speed boost out of replacing this with a solid state drive. You would have to see how much space of this you use, but you would most likely want a 512Gb SSD, it is half the size of your current drive, but as far as what you get for your buck this is pretty much where the sweet spot is now. If you go to 240Gb you may run into space issues and you only save maybe $30 or $40, but if you want a 1Tb SSD (same size as what you have now) you’ll pay double of what a 512Gb costs, prices are constantly coming down and in a couple of years you’ll probably be able to buy a 1Tb for the same price as a 512Gb now, but that won’t do you any good. Of course you can just put up with longer boot times and loading times of applications and keep it the way it is. You would have to check anyways if this laptop you have can even be easily opened up, some of these convertible tablets/laptop thingies are sealed and changing components is not easily possible. Then of course there is the consideration whether it is worth putting $100 or $150 into it, I assume you can’t switch the drives out yourself and I have no idea what a place like Best Buy would charge for that. Keep in mind that you want to make sure you have a good backup of all your data and that whatever applications you have are available for a fresh install either by download or that you have the installers on a USB stick. If you change drives you start out with a fresh install of Windows which if you are comfortable with it you can do yourself with Narrator, then you have to install Jaws or NVDA (whatever you use) and after that install things like Chrome and/or Firefox, Office, iTunes or whatever applications you use. Depending on how much user data you have on your current hard drive you could copy it to an external hard drive first. You can get a 1Tb external drive in the States probably for $50 or $60 so not such a big expense and it is something you then have and can continue to use. As for David’s comments on RAM, whether you buy a laptop or other computer, they do come with whatever RAM is supported by your CPU. You could not put DDR 4 RAM into your laptop which I am quite sure has and can only take DDR 3 RAM. If you have a custom system built you want to of course make sure you get the best RAM possible for your processor and motherboard at the time, beyond that RAM speed is not really a big issue and how much cache a hard drive has is also a lot less important than whether you have a hard drive or SSD. Regards, Sieghard From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed Here is the information about the drive of this laptop: HGST HTS541010A7E630 I got this from the disc and Drive section of the device manager. Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind along the lines of talking about the processer speed, it also should be noted about the size of the hard drive cache, also you can't forget that the faster the processer speed the ram speed might have something to do with the speed as well. as an example the faster processers of today need the faster ram like ddr4 ram if i'm not mistaken. -----Original Message-----
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Feb 2, 2019 5:15 PM
To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Hi Michael, the start up speed is due to the type of hard drive that you have. There are hard drives with lower revolutions per minute and higher revolutions per minute and then there are solid state drives which are quicker. There are settings that can be adjusted to change how your windows machine loads.
On Feb 2, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Well, don't give up. If the slow machine doesn't have one (most likely) you should consider having a solid state drive (ssd) installed. Your boot speed will go up a lot. You can often get away with a much smaller drive if you aren't using all of what you have. I went from a 1tb drive on my old laptop to a 512gb ssd. At that time, 1tb was more than i wanted to spend. It helped a lot. I eventually took that drive and put it in my wife's machine and gave up on my 8-year-old laptop, it was way slower than what you have. Good luck. CH On 2/2/2019 16:49, Michael Munn wrote: Thanks all. Yes the start up time really drive's me crazy. I used two different computers, one of them is faster then the other. I just want to know the information of the speed. Thanks for answering my question. Michael Munn Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind If applications are running more slowly than you would like, it would be best to find out why before investing in any new hardware. If I recall correctly, Performance Monitor will show you how much your CPU, memory and storage are being used over time. Some of the same information is in Task Manager as well. On 2/2/19 2:06 PM, Michael Munn wrote: Thanks so much for the detail. i really appreciate it. I got this laptop in DECEMBER of 2015. It's the current generation at that point. I just want to know about the information of the laptop that I'm currently using. Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote: And if you are gaming over the internet and you are on a 6 Mbps ADSL connection a super-fast computer with the latest processor and 32Gb of RAM won’t do you much good. Computers are a system and they are made up of various components and they all play a roll. To again use my car example from the previous email, the high-end Mercedes or BMW which can go 160 or 180 miles an hour won’t do you much good if you are taking the Road to Hanna on Maui. For those who don’t know of it, it’s a 2-lane highway which over a distance of just over 64 miles has approximately 620 curves many of them hairpin turns and you can rarely go faster than 30 miles an hour. In this case that highway would be equivalent to your internet connection speed. I can take my 7-year old laptop on my 275 Mbps fiber connection and download things a lot faster than somebody with the latest 9th generation I7 system on a much slower connection. all depends on what you are doing. If you're into gaming on line real-time over the internet, then you need one heck of a lot more speed and memory. So it really depends. You're better off than if you still had an Apple II+ with 64k RAM and a 6052 processor. What I'm saying is that this is a very open-ended question, and your answers will vary. For now, you have plenty, and actually more memory than I have, but then I'm a senior citizen. Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 09:56 Hi all, this is Michael. Today I checked the processor of my HP laptop and here is the information I get for the processor: Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor Is 2.2 GHZ enough? and how fast can it run? All comment and answers are greatly appreciate it.
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Ideally, superfetch and prefetch should be turned off in the
registry after the operating system is moved to a ssd, I don't
believe Macrium Reflect will do that for you., if it does that
would save some steps.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 2/4/2019 03:02, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,
No need to monkey with the registry,
just use Macrium Reflect which is free, and image the
drive. I put an SSD into my old laptop the other day, and
the speed is amazing.
All the best
Steve
Actually, if the person doing the swapping knows what they
are about, the windows, programs and all the data can be
easily copied. All one need do is to change a couple of
registry settings so windows treats the ssd properly once the
new drive is installed. You make good points on the ease of
dismantling the machine. If I was him, I wouldn't even bother
with best buy, find a local place that works on stuff and has
a good reputation, you're more likely to get someone who will
do the job right and put in the necessary time.
On 2/3/2019 17:15, Sieghard Weitzel
wrote:
That is a fairly generic 1Tb 2.5 inch
laptop hard drive with 32Mb of Cache and 5,400 RPM
(revolutions per minute).
I can see that after a little over 3
years this is not going to be the fastest, as I said
before and now that it is confirmed you have a regular
hard drive, you would get the most speed boost out of
replacing this with a solid state drive. You would have to
see how much space of this you use, but you would most
likely want a 512Gb SSD, it is half the size of your
current drive, but as far as what you get for your buck
this is pretty much where the sweet spot is now. If you go
to 240Gb you may run into space issues and you only save
maybe $30 or $40, but if you want a 1Tb SSD (same size as
what you have now) you’ll pay double of what a 512Gb
costs, prices are constantly coming down and in a couple
of years you’ll probably be able to buy a 1Tb for the same
price as a 512Gb now, but that won’t do you any good. Of
course you can just put up with longer boot times and
loading times of applications and keep it the way it is.
You would have to check anyways if this laptop you have
can even be easily opened up, some of these convertible
tablets/laptop thingies are sealed and changing components
is not easily possible. Then of course there is the
consideration whether it is worth putting $100 or $150
into it, I assume you can’t switch the drives out yourself
and I have no idea what a place like Best Buy would charge
for that. Keep in mind that you want to make sure you have
a good backup of all your data and that whatever
applications you have are available for a fresh install
either by download or that you have the installers on a
USB stick. If you change drives you start out with a fresh
install of Windows which if you are comfortable with it
you can do yourself with Narrator, then you have to
install Jaws or NVDA (whatever you use) and after that
install things like Chrome and/or Firefox, Office, iTunes
or whatever applications you use. Depending on how much
user data you have on your current hard drive you could
copy it to an external hard drive first. You can get a 1Tb
external drive in the States probably for $50 or $60 so
not such a big expense and it is something you then have
and can continue to use.
As for David’s comments on RAM, whether
you buy a laptop or other computer, they do come with
whatever RAM is supported by your CPU. You could not put
DDR 4 RAM into your laptop which I am quite sure has and
can only take DDR 3 RAM. If you have a custom system built
you want to of course make sure you get the best RAM
possible for your processor and motherboard at the time,
beyond that RAM speed is not really a big issue and how
much cache a hard drive has is also a lot less important
than whether you have a hard drive or SSD.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Here is the information about the
drive of this laptop:
HGST HTS541010A7E630
I got this from the
disc and Drive section of the device
manager.
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia
Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland
Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley
Institute of the Blind
along the lines of talking
about the processer speed, it also should be noted
about the size of the hard drive cache, also you
can't forget that the faster the processer speed
the ram speed might have something to do with the
speed as well. as an example the faster
processers of today need the faster ram like ddr4
ram if i'm not mistaken.
-----Original Message-----
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Feb 2, 2019 5:15 PM
To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Hi Michael,
the start up speed is due
to the type of hard drive that you have. There
are hard drives with lower revolutions per
minute and higher revolutions per minute and
then there are solid state drives which are
quicker. There are settings that can be
adjusted to change how your windows machine
loads.
On Feb 2, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Chris Hill
<hillco@...>
wrote:
Well, don't give up. If the slow
machine doesn't have one (most likely)
you should consider having a solid state
drive (ssd) installed. Your boot speed
will go up a lot. You can often get
away with a much smaller drive if you
aren't using all of what you have. I
went from a 1tb drive on my old laptop
to a 512gb ssd. At that time, 1tb was
more than i wanted to spend. It helped
a lot. I eventually took that drive and
put it in my wife's machine and gave up
on my 8-year-old laptop, it was way
slower than what you have.
Good luck.
CH
On 2/2/2019 16:49,
Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks all. Yes
the start up time really drive's me
crazy. I used two different
computers, one of them is faster
then the other. I just want to know
the information of the speed.
Thanks for
answering my question.
Michael Munn
Michael
Munn
Member:
Virginia
Association of
Blind students
Member:
Maryland
Association of
Blind Students
Students
of: Hadley
Institute of
the Blind
If applications are running
more slowly than you would like,
it would be best to find out why
before investing in any new
hardware.
If I recall correctly,
Performance Monitor will show
you how much your CPU, memory
and storage are being used over
time. Some of the same
information is in Task Manager
as well.
On 2/2/19
2:06 PM, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks so
much for the detail. i
really appreciate it.
I got
this laptop in DECEMBER of
2015. It's the current
generation at that point.
I just
want to know about the
information of the laptop
that I'm currently using.
Michael
Munn
Member:
Virginia
Association of
Blind students
Member:
Maryland
Association of
Blind Students
Students
of: Hadley
Institute of
the Blind
On Sat,
Feb 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
wrote:
And
if you are gaming over
the internet and you
are on a 6 Mbps ADSL
connection a
super-fast computer
with the latest
processor and 32Gb of
RAM won’t do you much
good. Computers are a
system and they are
made up of various
components and they
all play a roll. To
again use my car
example from the
previous email, the
high-end Mercedes or
BMW which can go 160
or 180 miles an hour
won’t do you much good
if you are taking the
Road to Hanna on Maui.
For those who don’t
know of it, it’s a
2-lane highway which
over a distance of
just over 64 miles has
approximately 620
curves many of them
hairpin turns and you
can rarely go faster
than 30 miles an hour.
In this case that
highway would be
equivalent to your
internet connection
speed. I can take my
7-year old laptop on
my 275 Mbps fiber
connection and
download things a lot
faster than somebody
with the latest 9th
generation I7 system
on a much slower
connection.
all
depends on what you
are doing. If you're
into gaming on line
real-time over the
internet, then you
need one heck of a
lot more speed and
memory. So it really
depends. You're
better off than if
you still had an
Apple II+ with 64k
RAM and a 6052
processor.
What
I'm saying is that
this is a very
open-ended question,
and your answers
will vary. For now,
you have plenty, and
actually more memory
than I have, but
then I'm a senior
citizen.
Dave
Oregonite,
woodworker,
Engineer, Musician,
and Pioneer
-----
Original Message
-----
Sent:
Saturday, February
02, 2019 09:56
Hi
all, this is
Michael.
Today
I checked the
processor of my
HP laptop and
here is the
information I
get for the
processor:
Processor:
Intel(R)
Core(TM)
i5-5200U CPU @
2.20GHz 2.20
GHz
Installed
memory (RAM):
8.00 GB
System
type: 64-bit
Operating
System,
x64-based
processor
Is
2.2 GHZ enough?
and how fast can
it run?
All
comment and
answers are
greatly
appreciate it.
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migrating to ssd was no problem, the major headache was trying to find accessible cloning software On 04/02/2019 03:44, Joseph Norton wrote:
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Hi:
Fast startup is usually enabled by default.
Putting in an SSD can make a huge difference.
My wife had a Dell she got back in 2013 or maybe in 2012, I'm not sure.
Anyway, it was one of the easier ones to change out, just pop the bottom pannell off, unscrew a few screws and the HD slid right out.
I bought a Crucial 256GB drive and slid it right into the laptop.
The laptop had 4 gigs of memory, and was slow to boot, and, swapped a lot.
That SSD made a big difference.
As a previous poster mentioned, some laptops are fitted so it is fairly easy to change out the HD, but, some are more trouble.
For example, this Acer I got from the Microsoft store back in 2015 was harder. I had to unscrew a bunch of screws, practically pry the laptop apart, then, there were the keyboard on one side and the motherboard on the back, with ribbon
cables connecting the two halves. Once I got the thing apart, had to turn it over, disconnect the cables, unscrew the bay where the HD was housed, replace the HD, and reconnect the cables, which was challenging, to say the least.
With me feeling around in there, cables not wanting to stay on, it's a wonder I'm typing this message at all.
It's back together, seems to be working, but, I am very careful with it, wouldn't bet on it surviving a moderate drop.
Hopefully, yours won't be this hard, but, without looking at it, couldn't tell you.
But, if you ever do get A SSD installed, you should notice the difference.
Sent from
Mail for Windows 10
Michael,
Windows has a feature by the name of fast start up. I would suggest you try enabling it and see how you like your computer before upgrading your hard drive to a solid-state drive if it’s not already enabled. Computers that I have worked
with in the past have performed like a new computer once this setting was enabled.
On Feb 3, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Actually, if the person doing the swapping knows what they are about, the windows, programs and all the data can be easily copied. All one need do is to change a couple of registry settings so windows treats the ssd properly once the new drive is installed.
You make good points on the ease of dismantling the machine. If I was him, I wouldn't even bother with best buy, find a local place that works on stuff and has a good reputation, you're more likely to get someone who will do the job right and put in the necessary
time.
On 2/3/2019 17:15, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
That is a fairly generic 1Tb 2.5 inch laptop hard drive with 32Mb of Cache and 5,400 RPM (revolutions per minute).
I can see that after a little over 3 years this is not going to be the fastest, as I said before and now that it is confirmed you have a regular hard drive, you would get the most
speed boost out of replacing this with a solid state drive. You would have to see how much space of this you use, but you would most likely want a 512Gb SSD, it is half the size of your current drive, but as far as what you get for your buck this is pretty
much where the sweet spot is now. If you go to 240Gb you may run into space issues and you only save maybe $30 or $40, but if you want a 1Tb SSD (same size as what you have now) you’ll pay double of what a 512Gb costs, prices are constantly coming down and
in a couple of years you’ll probably be able to buy a 1Tb for the same price as a 512Gb now, but that won’t do you any good. Of course you can just put up with longer boot times and loading times of applications and keep it the way it is. You would have to
check anyways if this laptop you have can even be easily opened up, some of these convertible tablets/laptop thingies are sealed and changing components is not easily possible. Then of course there is the consideration whether it is worth putting $100 or $150
into it, I assume you can’t switch the drives out yourself and I have no idea what a place like Best Buy would charge for that. Keep in mind that you want to make sure you have a good backup of all your data and that whatever applications you have are available
for a fresh install either by download or that you have the installers on a USB stick. If you change drives you start out with a fresh install of Windows which if you are comfortable with it you can do yourself with Narrator, then you have to install Jaws
or NVDA (whatever you use) and after that install things like Chrome and/or Firefox, Office, iTunes or whatever applications you use. Depending on how much user data you have on your current hard drive you could copy it to an external hard drive first. You
can get a 1Tb external drive in the States probably for $50 or $60 so not such a big expense and it is something you then have and can continue to use.
As for David’s comments on RAM, whether you buy a laptop or other computer, they do come with whatever RAM is supported by your CPU. You could not put DDR 4 RAM into your laptop
which I am quite sure has and can only take DDR 3 RAM. If you have a custom system built you want to of course make sure you get the best RAM possible for your processor and motherboard at the time, beyond that RAM speed is not really a big issue and how much
cache a hard drive has is also a lot less important than whether you have a hard drive or SSD.
Regards,
Sieghard
From:
main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Here is the information about the drive of this laptop:
HGST HTS541010A7E630
I got this from the disc and Drive section of the device manager.
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
along the lines of talking about the processer speed, it also should be noted about the size of the hard drive cache, also you can't forget that the faster the processer speed the
ram speed might have something to do with the speed as well. as an example the faster processers of today need the faster ram like ddr4 ram if i'm not mistaken.
-----Original Message-----
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Feb 2, 2019 5:15 PM
To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Hi Michael,
the start up speed is due to the type of hard drive that you have. There are hard drives with lower revolutions per minute and higher revolutions per minute and then there are
solid state drives which are quicker. There are settings that can be adjusted to change how your windows machine loads.
On Feb 2, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Well, don't give up. If the slow machine doesn't have one (most likely) you should consider having a solid state drive (ssd) installed. Your boot speed will go up a lot. You can often get away with a much smaller drive if you aren't using all of what
you have. I went from a 1tb drive on my old laptop to a 512gb ssd. At that time, 1tb was more than i wanted to spend. It helped a lot. I eventually took that drive and put it in my wife's machine and gave up on my 8-year-old laptop, it was way slower than
what you have.
Good luck.
CH
On 2/2/2019 16:49, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks all. Yes the start up time really drive's me crazy. I used two different computers, one of them is faster then the other. I just want to know the information of the speed.
Thanks for answering my question.
Michael Munn
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
If applications are running more slowly than you would like, it would be best to find out why before investing in any new hardware.
If I recall correctly, Performance Monitor will show you how much your CPU, memory and storage are being used over time. Some of the same information is in Task Manager as well.
On 2/2/19 2:06 PM, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks so much for the detail. i really appreciate it.
I got this laptop in DECEMBER of 2015. It's the current generation at that point.
I just want to know about the information of the laptop that I'm currently using.
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:
And if you are gaming over the internet and you are on a 6 Mbps ADSL connection a super-fast computer with the latest processor and 32Gb of RAM won’t do you much good. Computers
are a system and they are made up of various components and they all play a roll. To again use my car example from the previous email, the high-end Mercedes or BMW which can go 160 or 180 miles an hour won’t do you much good if you are taking the Road to Hanna
on Maui. For those who don’t know of it, it’s a 2-lane highway which over a distance of just over 64 miles has approximately 620 curves many of them hairpin turns and you can rarely go faster than 30 miles an hour. In this case that highway would be equivalent
to your internet connection speed. I can take my 7-year old laptop on my 275 Mbps fiber connection and download things a lot faster than somebody with the latest 9th generation I7 system on a much slower connection.
all depends on what you are doing. If you're into gaming on line real-time over the internet, then you need one heck of a lot more speed and memory. So it really depends. You're
better off than if you still had an Apple II+ with 64k RAM and a 6052 processor.
What I'm saying is that this is a very open-ended question, and your answers will vary. For now, you have plenty, and actually more memory than I have, but then I'm a senior citizen.
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 09:56
Hi all, this is Michael.
Today I checked the processor of my HP laptop and here is the information I get for the processor:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz
Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB
System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
Is 2.2 GHZ enough? and how fast can it run?
All comment and answers are greatly appreciate it.
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Hi, I don’t recommend fast startup in any situation to be honest. It stores the computer’s state completely in RAM and tries to bring it back, that’s how it starts up fast. More often than not though, it corrupts what’s in memory, so you have to reboot anyway, that’s my experience. All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: 04 February 2019 01:11
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed Michael, Windows has a feature by the name of fast start up. I would suggest you try enabling it and see how you like your computer before upgrading your hard drive to a solid-state drive if it’s not already enabled. Computers that I have worked with in the past have performed like a new computer once this setting was enabled.
On Feb 3, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Actually, if the person doing the swapping knows what they are about, the windows, programs and all the data can be easily copied. All one need do is to change a couple of registry settings so windows treats the ssd properly once the new drive is installed. You make good points on the ease of dismantling the machine. If I was him, I wouldn't even bother with best buy, find a local place that works on stuff and has a good reputation, you're more likely to get someone who will do the job right and put in the necessary time. On 2/3/2019 17:15, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: That is a fairly generic 1Tb 2.5 inch laptop hard drive with 32Mb of Cache and 5,400 RPM (revolutions per minute). I can see that after a little over 3 years this is not going to be the fastest, as I said before and now that it is confirmed you have a regular hard drive, you would get the most speed boost out of replacing this with a solid state drive. You would have to see how much space of this you use, but you would most likely want a 512Gb SSD, it is half the size of your current drive, but as far as what you get for your buck this is pretty much where the sweet spot is now. If you go to 240Gb you may run into space issues and you only save maybe $30 or $40, but if you want a 1Tb SSD (same size as what you have now) you’ll pay double of what a 512Gb costs, prices are constantly coming down and in a couple of years you’ll probably be able to buy a 1Tb for the same price as a 512Gb now, but that won’t do you any good. Of course you can just put up with longer boot times and loading times of applications and keep it the way it is. You would have to check anyways if this laptop you have can even be easily opened up, some of these convertible tablets/laptop thingies are sealed and changing components is not easily possible. Then of course there is the consideration whether it is worth putting $100 or $150 into it, I assume you can’t switch the drives out yourself and I have no idea what a place like Best Buy would charge for that. Keep in mind that you want to make sure you have a good backup of all your data and that whatever applications you have are available for a fresh install either by download or that you have the installers on a USB stick. If you change drives you start out with a fresh install of Windows which if you are comfortable with it you can do yourself with Narrator, then you have to install Jaws or NVDA (whatever you use) and after that install things like Chrome and/or Firefox, Office, iTunes or whatever applications you use. Depending on how much user data you have on your current hard drive you could copy it to an external hard drive first. You can get a 1Tb external drive in the States probably for $50 or $60 so not such a big expense and it is something you then have and can continue to use. As for David’s comments on RAM, whether you buy a laptop or other computer, they do come with whatever RAM is supported by your CPU. You could not put DDR 4 RAM into your laptop which I am quite sure has and can only take DDR 3 RAM. If you have a custom system built you want to of course make sure you get the best RAM possible for your processor and motherboard at the time, beyond that RAM speed is not really a big issue and how much cache a hard drive has is also a lot less important than whether you have a hard drive or SSD. Regards, Sieghard From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed Here is the information about the drive of this laptop: HGST HTS541010A7E630 I got this from the disc and Drive section of the device manager. Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind along the lines of talking about the processer speed, it also should be noted about the size of the hard drive cache, also you can't forget that the faster the processer speed the ram speed might have something to do with the speed as well. as an example the faster processers of today need the faster ram like ddr4 ram if i'm not mistaken. -----Original Message-----
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Feb 2, 2019 5:15 PM
To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Hi Michael, the start up speed is due to the type of hard drive that you have. There are hard drives with lower revolutions per minute and higher revolutions per minute and then there are solid state drives which are quicker. There are settings that can be adjusted to change how your windows machine loads.
On Feb 2, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Well, don't give up. If the slow machine doesn't have one (most likely) you should consider having a solid state drive (ssd) installed. Your boot speed will go up a lot. You can often get away with a much smaller drive if you aren't using all of what you have. I went from a 1tb drive on my old laptop to a 512gb ssd. At that time, 1tb was more than i wanted to spend. It helped a lot. I eventually took that drive and put it in my wife's machine and gave up on my 8-year-old laptop, it was way slower than what you have. Good luck. CH On 2/2/2019 16:49, Michael Munn wrote: Thanks all. Yes the start up time really drive's me crazy. I used two different computers, one of them is faster then the other. I just want to know the information of the speed. Thanks for answering my question. Michael Munn Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind If applications are running more slowly than you would like, it would be best to find out why before investing in any new hardware. If I recall correctly, Performance Monitor will show you how much your CPU, memory and storage are being used over time. Some of the same information is in Task Manager as well. On 2/2/19 2:06 PM, Michael Munn wrote: Thanks so much for the detail. i really appreciate it. I got this laptop in DECEMBER of 2015. It's the current generation at that point. I just want to know about the information of the laptop that I'm currently using. Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote: And if you are gaming over the internet and you are on a 6 Mbps ADSL connection a super-fast computer with the latest processor and 32Gb of RAM won’t do you much good. Computers are a system and they are made up of various components and they all play a roll. To again use my car example from the previous email, the high-end Mercedes or BMW which can go 160 or 180 miles an hour won’t do you much good if you are taking the Road to Hanna on Maui. For those who don’t know of it, it’s a 2-lane highway which over a distance of just over 64 miles has approximately 620 curves many of them hairpin turns and you can rarely go faster than 30 miles an hour. In this case that highway would be equivalent to your internet connection speed. I can take my 7-year old laptop on my 275 Mbps fiber connection and download things a lot faster than somebody with the latest 9th generation I7 system on a much slower connection. all depends on what you are doing. If you're into gaming on line real-time over the internet, then you need one heck of a lot more speed and memory. So it really depends. You're better off than if you still had an Apple II+ with 64k RAM and a 6052 processor. What I'm saying is that this is a very open-ended question, and your answers will vary. For now, you have plenty, and actually more memory than I have, but then I'm a senior citizen. Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 09:56 Hi all, this is Michael. Today I checked the processor of my HP laptop and here is the information I get for the processor: Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor Is 2.2 GHZ enough? and how fast can it run? All comment and answers are greatly appreciate it.
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Hi, No need to monkey with the registry, just use Macrium Reflect which is free, and image the drive. I put an SSD into my old laptop the other day, and the speed is amazing. All the best Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: 04 February 2019 00:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed Actually, if the person doing the swapping knows what they are about, the windows, programs and all the data can be easily copied. All one need do is to change a couple of registry settings so windows treats the ssd properly once the new drive is installed. You make good points on the ease of dismantling the machine. If I was him, I wouldn't even bother with best buy, find a local place that works on stuff and has a good reputation, you're more likely to get someone who will do the job right and put in the necessary time. On 2/3/2019 17:15, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: That is a fairly generic 1Tb 2.5 inch laptop hard drive with 32Mb of Cache and 5,400 RPM (revolutions per minute). I can see that after a little over 3 years this is not going to be the fastest, as I said before and now that it is confirmed you have a regular hard drive, you would get the most speed boost out of replacing this with a solid state drive. You would have to see how much space of this you use, but you would most likely want a 512Gb SSD, it is half the size of your current drive, but as far as what you get for your buck this is pretty much where the sweet spot is now. If you go to 240Gb you may run into space issues and you only save maybe $30 or $40, but if you want a 1Tb SSD (same size as what you have now) you’ll pay double of what a 512Gb costs, prices are constantly coming down and in a couple of years you’ll probably be able to buy a 1Tb for the same price as a 512Gb now, but that won’t do you any good. Of course you can just put up with longer boot times and loading times of applications and keep it the way it is. You would have to check anyways if this laptop you have can even be easily opened up, some of these convertible tablets/laptop thingies are sealed and changing components is not easily possible. Then of course there is the consideration whether it is worth putting $100 or $150 into it, I assume you can’t switch the drives out yourself and I have no idea what a place like Best Buy would charge for that. Keep in mind that you want to make sure you have a good backup of all your data and that whatever applications you have are available for a fresh install either by download or that you have the installers on a USB stick. If you change drives you start out with a fresh install of Windows which if you are comfortable with it you can do yourself with Narrator, then you have to install Jaws or NVDA (whatever you use) and after that install things like Chrome and/or Firefox, Office, iTunes or whatever applications you use. Depending on how much user data you have on your current hard drive you could copy it to an external hard drive first. You can get a 1Tb external drive in the States probably for $50 or $60 so not such a big expense and it is something you then have and can continue to use. As for David’s comments on RAM, whether you buy a laptop or other computer, they do come with whatever RAM is supported by your CPU. You could not put DDR 4 RAM into your laptop which I am quite sure has and can only take DDR 3 RAM. If you have a custom system built you want to of course make sure you get the best RAM possible for your processor and motherboard at the time, beyond that RAM speed is not really a big issue and how much cache a hard drive has is also a lot less important than whether you have a hard drive or SSD. Regards, Sieghard From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed Here is the information about the drive of this laptop: HGST HTS541010A7E630 I got this from the disc and Drive section of the device manager. Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind along the lines of talking about the processer speed, it also should be noted about the size of the hard drive cache, also you can't forget that the faster the processer speed the ram speed might have something to do with the speed as well. as an example the faster processers of today need the faster ram like ddr4 ram if i'm not mistaken. -----Original Message-----
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Feb 2, 2019 5:15 PM
To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Hi Michael, the start up speed is due to the type of hard drive that you have. There are hard drives with lower revolutions per minute and higher revolutions per minute and then there are solid state drives which are quicker. There are settings that can be adjusted to change how your windows machine loads.
On Feb 2, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Well, don't give up. If the slow machine doesn't have one (most likely) you should consider having a solid state drive (ssd) installed. Your boot speed will go up a lot. You can often get away with a much smaller drive if you aren't using all of what you have. I went from a 1tb drive on my old laptop to a 512gb ssd. At that time, 1tb was more than i wanted to spend. It helped a lot. I eventually took that drive and put it in my wife's machine and gave up on my 8-year-old laptop, it was way slower than what you have. Good luck. CH On 2/2/2019 16:49, Michael Munn wrote: Thanks all. Yes the start up time really drive's me crazy. I used two different computers, one of them is faster then the other. I just want to know the information of the speed. Thanks for answering my question. Michael Munn Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind If applications are running more slowly than you would like, it would be best to find out why before investing in any new hardware. If I recall correctly, Performance Monitor will show you how much your CPU, memory and storage are being used over time. Some of the same information is in Task Manager as well. On 2/2/19 2:06 PM, Michael Munn wrote: Thanks so much for the detail. i really appreciate it. I got this laptop in DECEMBER of 2015. It's the current generation at that point. I just want to know about the information of the laptop that I'm currently using. Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote: And if you are gaming over the internet and you are on a 6 Mbps ADSL connection a super-fast computer with the latest processor and 32Gb of RAM won’t do you much good. Computers are a system and they are made up of various components and they all play a roll. To again use my car example from the previous email, the high-end Mercedes or BMW which can go 160 or 180 miles an hour won’t do you much good if you are taking the Road to Hanna on Maui. For those who don’t know of it, it’s a 2-lane highway which over a distance of just over 64 miles has approximately 620 curves many of them hairpin turns and you can rarely go faster than 30 miles an hour. In this case that highway would be equivalent to your internet connection speed. I can take my 7-year old laptop on my 275 Mbps fiber connection and download things a lot faster than somebody with the latest 9th generation I7 system on a much slower connection. all depends on what you are doing. If you're into gaming on line real-time over the internet, then you need one heck of a lot more speed and memory. So it really depends. You're better off than if you still had an Apple II+ with 64k RAM and a 6052 processor. What I'm saying is that this is a very open-ended question, and your answers will vary. For now, you have plenty, and actually more memory than I have, but then I'm a senior citizen. Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 09:56 Hi all, this is Michael. Today I checked the processor of my HP laptop and here is the information I get for the processor: Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor Is 2.2 GHZ enough? and how fast can it run? All comment and answers are greatly appreciate it.
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Hi, Actually, the easiest way to get to Device Manager to be honest, is Windows key and the Pause or Break key. It gets you there with a single keystroke. All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 03 February 2019 20:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed Go to the Device Manager, tab once into the treeview and arrow down 5 or 6 times to “Disk Drives”. Right arrow to expand it and see what you have. It may give a model number, you can Google that or post it here and I can tell you what you have. Easiest way to get to the device manager in Windows 10 is to press Windows Key + X followed by “M” as in “Manager” or down arrow to Device Manager and press enter. Regards, Sieghard From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed Ok thanks I'm running windows 10 64 bit of operating system. I don't know what drive is this computer is using. This is a Tablet and Laptop combo. it's an Hp NV X convertible. It does not have a DVD drive. Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 5:53 PM Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote: Well, don't give up. If the slow machine doesn't have one (most likely) you should consider having a solid state drive (ssd) installed. Your boot speed will go up a lot. You can often get away with a much smaller drive if you aren't using all of what you have. I went from a 1tb drive on my old laptop to a 512gb ssd. At that time, 1tb was more than i wanted to spend. It helped a lot. I eventually took that drive and put it in my wife's machine and gave up on my 8-year-old laptop, it was way slower than what you have. Good luck. CH On 2/2/2019 16:49, Michael Munn wrote: Thanks all. Yes the start up time really drive's me crazy. I used two different computers, one of them is faster then the other. I just want to know the information of the speed. Thanks for answering my question. Michael Munn Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind If applications are running more slowly than you would like, it would be best to find out why before investing in any new hardware. If I recall correctly, Performance Monitor will show you how much your CPU, memory and storage are being used over time. Some of the same information is in Task Manager as well. On 2/2/19 2:06 PM, Michael Munn wrote: Thanks so much for the detail. i really appreciate it. I got this laptop in DECEMBER of 2015. It's the current generation at that point. I just want to know about the information of the laptop that I'm currently using. Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote: And if you are gaming over the internet and you are on a 6 Mbps ADSL connection a super-fast computer with the latest processor and 32Gb of RAM won’t do you much good. Computers are a system and they are made up of various components and they all play a roll. To again use my car example from the previous email, the high-end Mercedes or BMW which can go 160 or 180 miles an hour won’t do you much good if you are taking the Road to Hanna on Maui. For those who don’t know of it, it’s a 2-lane highway which over a distance of just over 64 miles has approximately 620 curves many of them hairpin turns and you can rarely go faster than 30 miles an hour. In this case that highway would be equivalent to your internet connection speed. I can take my 7-year old laptop on my 275 Mbps fiber connection and download things a lot faster than somebody with the latest 9th generation I7 system on a much slower connection. all depends on what you are doing. If you're into gaming on line real-time over the internet, then you need one heck of a lot more speed and memory. So it really depends. You're better off than if you still had an Apple II+ with 64k RAM and a 6052 processor. What I'm saying is that this is a very open-ended question, and your answers will vary. For now, you have plenty, and actually more memory than I have, but then I'm a senior citizen. Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 09:56 Hi all, this is Michael. Today I checked the processor of my HP laptop and here is the information I get for the processor: Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor Is 2.2 GHZ enough? and how fast can it run? All comment and answers are greatly appreciate it.
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Hi: Fast startup is usually enabled by default. Putting in an SSD can make a huge difference. My wife had a Dell she got back in 2013 or maybe in 2012, I'm not sure. Anyway, it was one of the easier ones to change out, just pop the bottom pannell off, unscrew a few screws and the HD slid right out. I bought a Crucial 256GB drive and slid it right into the laptop. The laptop had 4 gigs of memory, and was slow to boot, and, swapped a lot. That SSD made a big difference. As a previous poster mentioned, some laptops are fitted so it is fairly easy to change out the HD, but, some are more trouble. For example, this Acer I got from the Microsoft store back in 2015 was harder. I had to unscrew a bunch of screws, practically pry the laptop apart, then, there were the keyboard on one side and the motherboard on the back, with ribbon cables connecting the two halves. Once I got the thing apart, had to turn it over, disconnect the cables, unscrew the bay where the HD was housed, replace the HD, and reconnect the cables, which was challenging, to say the least. With me feeling around in there, cables not wanting to stay on, it's a wonder I'm typing this message at all. It's back together, seems to be working, but, I am very careful with it, wouldn't bet on it surviving a moderate drop. Hopefully, yours won't be this hard, but, without looking at it, couldn't tell you. But, if you ever do get A SSD installed, you should notice the difference. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Feliciano GSent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 8:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.ioSubject: Re: Processor speed Michael, Windows has a feature by the name of fast start up. I would suggest you try enabling it and see how you like your computer before upgrading your hard drive to a solid-state drive if it’s not already enabled. Computers that I have worked with in the past have performed like a new computer once this setting was enabled.
On Feb 3, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Actually, if the person doing the swapping knows what they are about, the windows, programs and all the data can be easily copied. All one need do is to change a couple of registry settings so windows treats the ssd properly once the new drive is installed. You make good points on the ease of dismantling the machine. If I was him, I wouldn't even bother with best buy, find a local place that works on stuff and has a good reputation, you're more likely to get someone who will do the job right and put in the necessary time. On 2/3/2019 17:15, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: That is a fairly generic 1Tb 2.5 inch laptop hard drive with 32Mb of Cache and 5,400 RPM (revolutions per minute). I can see that after a little over 3 years this is not going to be the fastest, as I said before and now that it is confirmed you have a regular hard drive, you would get the most speed boost out of replacing this with a solid state drive. You would have to see how much space of this you use, but you would most likely want a 512Gb SSD, it is half the size of your current drive, but as far as what you get for your buck this is pretty much where the sweet spot is now. If you go to 240Gb you may run into space issues and you only save maybe $30 or $40, but if you want a 1Tb SSD (same size as what you have now) you’ll pay double of what a 512Gb costs, prices are constantly coming down and in a couple of years you’ll probably be able to buy a 1Tb for the same price as a 512Gb now, but that won’t do you any good. Of course you can just put up with longer boot times and loading times of applications and keep it the way it is. You would have to check anyways if this laptop you have can even be easily opened up, some of these convertible tablets/laptop thingies are sealed and changing components is not easily possible. Then of course there is the consideration whether it is worth putting $100 or $150 into it, I assume you can’t switch the drives out yourself and I have no idea what a place like Best Buy would charge for that. Keep in mind that you want to make sure you have a good backup of all your data and that whatever applications you have are available for a fresh install either by download or that you have the installers on a USB stick. If you change drives you start out with a fresh install of Windows which if you are comfortable with it you can do yourself with Narrator, then you have to install Jaws or NVDA (whatever you use) and after that install things like Chrome and/or Firefox, Office, iTunes or whatever applications you use. Depending on how much user data you have on your current hard drive you could copy it to an external hard drive first. You can get a 1Tb external drive in the States probably for $50 or $60 so not such a big expense and it is something you then have and can continue to use. As for David’s comments on RAM, whether you buy a laptop or other computer, they do come with whatever RAM is supported by your CPU. You could not put DDR 4 RAM into your laptop which I am quite sure has and can only take DDR 3 RAM. If you have a custom system built you want to of course make sure you get the best RAM possible for your processor and motherboard at the time, beyond that RAM speed is not really a big issue and how much cache a hard drive has is also a lot less important than whether you have a hard drive or SSD. Regards, Sieghard From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed Here is the information about the drive of this laptop: HGST HTS541010A7E630 I got this from the disc and Drive section of the device manager. Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind along the lines of talking about the processer speed, it also should be noted about the size of the hard drive cache, also you can't forget that the faster the processer speed the ram speed might have something to do with the speed as well. as an example the faster processers of today need the faster ram like ddr4 ram if i'm not mistaken. -----Original Message-----
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Feb 2, 2019 5:15 PM
To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Hi Michael, the start up speed is due to the type of hard drive that you have. There are hard drives with lower revolutions per minute and higher revolutions per minute and then there are solid state drives which are quicker. There are settings that can be adjusted to change how your windows machine loads.
On Feb 2, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Well, don't give up. If the slow machine doesn't have one (most likely) you should consider having a solid state drive (ssd) installed. Your boot speed will go up a lot. You can often get away with a much smaller drive if you aren't using all of what you have. I went from a 1tb drive on my old laptop to a 512gb ssd. At that time, 1tb was more than i wanted to spend. It helped a lot. I eventually took that drive and put it in my wife's machine and gave up on my 8-year-old laptop, it was way slower than what you have. Good luck. CH On 2/2/2019 16:49, Michael Munn wrote: Thanks all. Yes the start up time really drive's me crazy. I used two different computers, one of them is faster then the other. I just want to know the information of the speed. Thanks for answering my question. Michael Munn Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind If applications are running more slowly than you would like, it would be best to find out why before investing in any new hardware. If I recall correctly, Performance Monitor will show you how much your CPU, memory and storage are being used over time. Some of the same information is in Task Manager as well. On 2/2/19 2:06 PM, Michael Munn wrote: Thanks so much for the detail. i really appreciate it. I got this laptop in DECEMBER of 2015. It's the current generation at that point. I just want to know about the information of the laptop that I'm currently using. Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote: And if you are gaming over the internet and you are on a 6 Mbps ADSL connection a super-fast computer with the latest processor and 32Gb of RAM won’t do you much good. Computers are a system and they are made up of various components and they all play a roll. To again use my car example from the previous email, the high-end Mercedes or BMW which can go 160 or 180 miles an hour won’t do you much good if you are taking the Road to Hanna on Maui. For those who don’t know of it, it’s a 2-lane highway which over a distance of just over 64 miles has approximately 620 curves many of them hairpin turns and you can rarely go faster than 30 miles an hour. In this case that highway would be equivalent to your internet connection speed. I can take my 7-year old laptop on my 275 Mbps fiber connection and download things a lot faster than somebody with the latest 9th generation I7 system on a much slower connection. all depends on what you are doing. If you're into gaming on line real-time over the internet, then you need one heck of a lot more speed and memory. So it really depends. You're better off than if you still had an Apple II+ with 64k RAM and a 6052 processor. What I'm saying is that this is a very open-ended question, and your answers will vary. For now, you have plenty, and actually more memory than I have, but then I'm a senior citizen. Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 09:56 Hi all, this is Michael. Today I checked the processor of my HP laptop and here is the information I get for the processor: Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor Is 2.2 GHZ enough? and how fast can it run? All comment and answers are greatly appreciate it.
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It won’t help the load time of other programs and while it may speed up boot time a bit, it only does so until it messes things up. He would be much better off to just put the computer to sleep and then opening the lid or a press of a key
would bring it up in 2 or 3 seconds.
As for Chris’s suggesting to transfer the entire content of a 3-year old 1TB hard drive to a 512Gb SSD I can only say that I’d never do it. He is concerned with getting more performance out of a 3-year old laptop and if he does decide to
have an SSD installed then a fresh install of Windows will give him the absolutely best performance. People install stuff and uninstall stuff and all in all things do get bogged down over time, the registry probably has orphan entries and all he’d do is to
put them back. Also, by the time you do all that copying or ghosting of the hard drive to the SSD, potentially fiddly with the registry and then maybe deal with whatever issues may or may not arise you might as well start new. I bought my Asus Zenbook a little
over 2 years ago, it’s a high-end laptop with a 6th generation I7 processor, 16Gb of RAM and a 512Gb SSD, but it came with Windows 10 Home and I bought an upgrade to Pro, then over the last 2 years I did all sorts of stuff since often I experiment
on the laptop rather than on one of my work PC’s and just recently I ran into a number of small issues which weren’t terrible but which bugged me. For example, I would open folders in file explorer and for some reason Alt+F4 would not close them or I would
have to press it 4 or 5 times when it finally did. This is just one example of a few annoyances, but I had enough of it and made a Windows 10 version 1809 boot drive, had a quick look that all my data was in my OneDrive folder which it was and went ahead and
wiped it out. All my email is either exchange via Office 365 for my business or Outlook.com for my personal email so I didn’t have to worry about backing up any emails or contacts and after deleting all partitions on the SSD and then re-partitioning and formatting
it it took all of 10 minutes to install Windows 10 with Narrator. I then first installed Jaws and re-authorized it because I have been a Jaws user for 30 years and I can just work best with it. Then I re-upgraded to Windows 10 Pro through the Microsoft Store
and after that was done I installed Roboform, my password manager, Office via Office 365, Chrome, Adobe Acrobat, Skype, iTunes and the Sonos controller and probably a few other things I forgot and that was it. Once I signed in to my OneDrive and Dropbox all
my files, about 60 or 70 Gb started downloading and upon opening Outlook I set up my 3 email accounts, all emails and contacts synced back to the laptop and after a little less than 2 hours I was done.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 5:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Michael,
Windows has a feature by the name of fast start up. I would suggest you try enabling it and see how you like your computer before upgrading your hard drive to a solid-state drive if it’s not already enabled. Computers that I have worked
with in the past have performed like a new computer once this setting was enabled.
On Feb 3, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Actually, if the person doing the swapping knows what they are about, the windows, programs and all the data can be easily copied. All one need do is to change a couple of registry settings so windows treats the ssd properly once the new drive is installed.
You make good points on the ease of dismantling the machine. If I was him, I wouldn't even bother with best buy, find a local place that works on stuff and has a good reputation, you're more likely to get someone who will do the job right and put in the necessary
time.
On 2/3/2019 17:15, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
That is a fairly generic 1Tb 2.5 inch laptop hard drive with 32Mb of Cache and 5,400 RPM (revolutions per minute).
I can see that after a little over 3 years this is not going to be the fastest, as I said before and now that it is confirmed you have a regular hard drive, you would get the most
speed boost out of replacing this with a solid state drive. You would have to see how much space of this you use, but you would most likely want a 512Gb SSD, it is half the size of your current drive, but as far as what you get for your buck this is pretty
much where the sweet spot is now. If you go to 240Gb you may run into space issues and you only save maybe $30 or $40, but if you want a 1Tb SSD (same size as what you have now) you’ll pay double of what a 512Gb costs, prices are constantly coming down and
in a couple of years you’ll probably be able to buy a 1Tb for the same price as a 512Gb now, but that won’t do you any good. Of course you can just put up with longer boot times and loading times of applications and keep it the way it is. You would have to
check anyways if this laptop you have can even be easily opened up, some of these convertible tablets/laptop thingies are sealed and changing components is not easily possible. Then of course there is the consideration whether it is worth putting $100 or $150
into it, I assume you can’t switch the drives out yourself and I have no idea what a place like Best Buy would charge for that. Keep in mind that you want to make sure you have a good backup of all your data and that whatever applications you have are available
for a fresh install either by download or that you have the installers on a USB stick. If you change drives you start out with a fresh install of Windows which if you are comfortable with it you can do yourself with Narrator, then you have to install Jaws
or NVDA (whatever you use) and after that install things like Chrome and/or Firefox, Office, iTunes or whatever applications you use. Depending on how much user data you have on your current hard drive you could copy it to an external hard drive first. You
can get a 1Tb external drive in the States probably for $50 or $60 so not such a big expense and it is something you then have and can continue to use.
As for David’s comments on RAM, whether you buy a laptop or other computer, they do come with whatever RAM is supported by your CPU. You could not put DDR 4 RAM into your laptop
which I am quite sure has and can only take DDR 3 RAM. If you have a custom system built you want to of course make sure you get the best RAM possible for your processor and motherboard at the time, beyond that RAM speed is not really a big issue and how much
cache a hard drive has is also a lot less important than whether you have a hard drive or SSD.
Regards,
Sieghard
From:
main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Here is the information about the drive of this laptop:
HGST HTS541010A7E630
I got this from the disc and Drive section of the device manager.
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
along the lines of talking about the processer speed, it also should be noted about the size of the hard drive cache, also you can't forget that the faster the processer speed the
ram speed might have something to do with the speed as well. as an example the faster processers of today need the faster ram like ddr4 ram if i'm not mistaken.
-----Original Message-----
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Feb 2, 2019 5:15 PM
To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Hi Michael,
the start up speed is due to the type of hard drive that you have. There are hard drives with lower revolutions per minute and higher revolutions per minute and then there are
solid state drives which are quicker. There are settings that can be adjusted to change how your windows machine loads.
On Feb 2, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Well, don't give up. If the slow machine doesn't have one (most likely) you should consider having a solid state drive (ssd) installed. Your boot speed will go up a lot. You can often get away with a much smaller drive if you aren't using all of what
you have. I went from a 1tb drive on my old laptop to a 512gb ssd. At that time, 1tb was more than i wanted to spend. It helped a lot. I eventually took that drive and put it in my wife's machine and gave up on my 8-year-old laptop, it was way slower than
what you have.
Good luck.
CH
On 2/2/2019 16:49, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks all. Yes the start up time really drive's me crazy. I used two different computers, one of them is faster then the other. I just want to know the information of the speed.
Thanks for answering my question.
Michael Munn
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
If applications are running more slowly than you would like, it would be best to find out why before investing in any new hardware.
If I recall correctly, Performance Monitor will show you how much your CPU, memory and storage are being used over time. Some of the same information is in Task Manager as well.
On 2/2/19 2:06 PM, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks so much for the detail. i really appreciate it.
I got this laptop in DECEMBER of 2015. It's the current generation at that point.
I just want to know about the information of the laptop that I'm currently using.
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:
And if you are gaming over the internet and you are on a 6 Mbps ADSL connection a super-fast computer with the latest processor and 32Gb of RAM won’t do you much good. Computers
are a system and they are made up of various components and they all play a roll. To again use my car example from the previous email, the high-end Mercedes or BMW which can go 160 or 180 miles an hour won’t do you much good if you are taking the Road to Hanna
on Maui. For those who don’t know of it, it’s a 2-lane highway which over a distance of just over 64 miles has approximately 620 curves many of them hairpin turns and you can rarely go faster than 30 miles an hour. In this case that highway would be equivalent
to your internet connection speed. I can take my 7-year old laptop on my 275 Mbps fiber connection and download things a lot faster than somebody with the latest 9th generation I7 system on a much slower connection.
all depends on what you are doing. If you're into gaming on line real-time over the internet, then you need one heck of a lot more speed and memory. So it really depends. You're
better off than if you still had an Apple II+ with 64k RAM and a 6052 processor.
What I'm saying is that this is a very open-ended question, and your answers will vary. For now, you have plenty, and actually more memory than I have, but then I'm a senior citizen.
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 09:56
Hi all, this is Michael.
Today I checked the processor of my HP laptop and here is the information I get for the processor:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz
Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB
System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
Is 2.2 GHZ enough? and how fast can it run?
All comment and answers are greatly appreciate it.
|
|
|
Michael,
Windows has a feature by the name of fast start up. I would suggest you try enabling it and see how you like your computer before upgrading your hard drive to a solid-state drive if it’s not already enabled. Computers that I have worked with in the past
have performed like a new computer once this setting was enabled.
On Feb 3, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Chris Hill < hillco@...> wrote:
Actually, if the person doing the swapping knows what they are about, the windows, programs and all the data can be easily copied. All one need do is to change a couple of registry settings so windows treats the ssd properly once the new drive is installed.
You make good points on the ease of dismantling the machine. If I was him, I wouldn't even bother with best buy, find a local place that works on stuff and has a good reputation, you're more likely to get someone who will do the job right and put in the necessary
time.
On 2/3/2019 17:15, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
That is a fairly generic 1Tb 2.5 inch laptop hard drive with 32Mb of Cache and 5,400 RPM (revolutions per minute).
I can see that after a little over 3 years this is not going to be the fastest, as I said before and now that it is confirmed you have a regular hard drive, you would get the most speed boost out of replacing this with a solid state drive.
You would have to see how much space of this you use, but you would most likely want a 512Gb SSD, it is half the size of your current drive, but as far as what you get for your buck this is pretty much where the sweet spot is now. If you go to 240Gb you may
run into space issues and you only save maybe $30 or $40, but if you want a 1Tb SSD (same size as what you have now) you’ll pay double of what a 512Gb costs, prices are constantly coming down and in a couple of years you’ll probably be able to buy a 1Tb for
the same price as a 512Gb now, but that won’t do you any good. Of course you can just put up with longer boot times and loading times of applications and keep it the way it is. You would have to check anyways if this laptop you have can even be easily opened
up, some of these convertible tablets/laptop thingies are sealed and changing components is not easily possible. Then of course there is the consideration whether it is worth putting $100 or $150 into it, I assume you can’t switch the drives out yourself and
I have no idea what a place like Best Buy would charge for that. Keep in mind that you want to make sure you have a good backup of all your data and that whatever applications you have are available for a fresh install either by download or that you have the
installers on a USB stick. If you change drives you start out with a fresh install of Windows which if you are comfortable with it you can do yourself with Narrator, then you have to install Jaws or NVDA (whatever you use) and after that install things like
Chrome and/or Firefox, Office, iTunes or whatever applications you use. Depending on how much user data you have on your current hard drive you could copy it to an external hard drive first. You can get a 1Tb external drive in the States probably for $50 or
$60 so not such a big expense and it is something you then have and can continue to use.
As for David’s comments on RAM, whether you buy a laptop or other computer, they do come with whatever RAM is supported by your CPU. You could not put DDR 4 RAM into your laptop which I am quite sure has and can only take DDR 3 RAM. If
you have a custom system built you want to of course make sure you get the best RAM possible for your processor and motherboard at the time, beyond that RAM speed is not really a big issue and how much cache a hard drive has is also a lot less important than
whether you have a hard drive or SSD.
Regards,
Sieghard
From:
main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Here is the information about the drive of this laptop:
HGST HTS541010A7E630
I got this from the disc and Drive section of the device manager.
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
along the lines of talking about the processer speed, it also should be noted about the size of the hard drive cache, also you can't forget that the faster the processer speed the ram speed might have something to do with the speed
as well. as an example the faster processers of today need the faster ram like ddr4 ram if i'm not mistaken.
-----Original Message-----
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Feb 2, 2019 5:15 PM
To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Hi Michael,
the start up speed is due to the type of hard drive that you have. There are hard drives with lower revolutions per minute and higher revolutions per minute and then there are solid state drives which are quicker. There are settings
that can be adjusted to change how your windows machine loads.
On Feb 2, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Well, don't give up. If the slow machine doesn't have one (most likely) you should consider having a solid state drive (ssd) installed. Your boot speed will go up a lot. You can often get away with a much smaller drive if you aren't using all of
what you have. I went from a 1tb drive on my old laptop to a 512gb ssd. At that time, 1tb was more than i wanted to spend. It helped a lot. I eventually took that drive and put it in my wife's machine and gave up on my 8-year-old laptop, it was way slower
than what you have.
Good luck.
CH
On 2/2/2019 16:49, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks all. Yes the start up time really drive's me crazy. I used two different computers, one of them is faster then the other. I just want to know the information of the speed.
Thanks for answering my question.
Michael Munn
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
If applications are running more slowly than you would like, it would be best to find out why before investing in any new hardware.
If I recall correctly, Performance Monitor will show you how much your CPU, memory and storage are being used over time. Some of the same information is in Task Manager as well.
On 2/2/19 2:06 PM, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks so much for the detail. i really appreciate it.
I got this laptop in DECEMBER of 2015. It's the current generation at that point.
I just want to know about the information of the laptop that I'm currently using.
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:
And if you are gaming over the internet and you are on a 6 Mbps ADSL connection a super-fast computer with the latest processor and 32Gb of RAM won’t do you much good. Computers are a system and they are made up of various components
and they all play a roll. To again use my car example from the previous email, the high-end Mercedes or BMW which can go 160 or 180 miles an hour won’t do you much good if you are taking the Road to Hanna on Maui. For those who don’t know of it, it’s a 2-lane
highway which over a distance of just over 64 miles has approximately 620 curves many of them hairpin turns and you can rarely go faster than 30 miles an hour. In this case that highway would be equivalent to your internet connection speed. I can take my 7-year
old laptop on my 275 Mbps fiber connection and download things a lot faster than somebody with the latest 9th generation I7 system on a much slower connection.
all depends on what you are doing. If you're into gaming on line real-time over the internet, then you need one heck of a lot more speed and memory. So it really depends. You're better off than if you still had an Apple II+ with 64k
RAM and a 6052 processor.
What I'm saying is that this is a very open-ended question, and your answers will vary. For now, you have plenty, and actually more memory than I have, but then I'm a senior citizen.
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 09:56
Hi all, this is Michael.
Today I checked the processor of my HP laptop and here is the information I get for the processor:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz
Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB
System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
Is 2.2 GHZ enough? and how fast can it run?
All comment and answers are greatly appreciate it.
|
|
|
Actually, if the person doing the swapping knows what they are
about, the windows, programs and all the data can be easily
copied. All one need do is to change a couple of registry
settings so windows treats the ssd properly once the new drive is
installed. You make good points on the ease of dismantling the
machine. If I was him, I wouldn't even bother with best buy, find
a local place that works on stuff and has a good reputation,
you're more likely to get someone who will do the job right and
put in the necessary time.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 2/3/2019 17:15, Sieghard Weitzel
wrote:
That is a fairly generic 1Tb 2.5 inch
laptop hard drive with 32Mb of Cache and 5,400 RPM
(revolutions per minute).
I can see that after a little over 3 years
this is not going to be the fastest, as I said before and now
that it is confirmed you have a regular hard drive, you would
get the most speed boost out of replacing this with a solid
state drive. You would have to see how much space of this you
use, but you would most likely want a 512Gb SSD, it is half
the size of your current drive, but as far as what you get for
your buck this is pretty much where the sweet spot is now. If
you go to 240Gb you may run into space issues and you only
save maybe $30 or $40, but if you want a 1Tb SSD (same size as
what you have now) you’ll pay double of what a 512Gb costs,
prices are constantly coming down and in a couple of years
you’ll probably be able to buy a 1Tb for the same price as a
512Gb now, but that won’t do you any good. Of course you can
just put up with longer boot times and loading times of
applications and keep it the way it is. You would have to
check anyways if this laptop you have can even be easily
opened up, some of these convertible tablets/laptop thingies
are sealed and changing components is not easily possible.
Then of course there is the consideration whether it is worth
putting $100 or $150 into it, I assume you can’t switch the
drives out yourself and I have no idea what a place like Best
Buy would charge for that. Keep in mind that you want to make
sure you have a good backup of all your data and that whatever
applications you have are available for a fresh install either
by download or that you have the installers on a USB stick. If
you change drives you start out with a fresh install of
Windows which if you are comfortable with it you can do
yourself with Narrator, then you have to install Jaws or NVDA
(whatever you use) and after that install things like Chrome
and/or Firefox, Office, iTunes or whatever applications you
use. Depending on how much user data you have on your current
hard drive you could copy it to an external hard drive first.
You can get a 1Tb external drive in the States probably for
$50 or $60 so not such a big expense and it is something you
then have and can continue to use.
As for David’s comments on RAM, whether you
buy a laptop or other computer, they do come with whatever RAM
is supported by your CPU. You could not put DDR 4 RAM into
your laptop which I am quite sure has and can only take DDR 3
RAM. If you have a custom system built you want to of course
make sure you get the best RAM possible for your processor and
motherboard at the time, beyond that RAM speed is not really a
big issue and how much cache a hard drive has is also a lot
less important than whether you have a hard drive or SSD.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Here is the information about the drive
of this laptop:
HGST HTS541010A7E630
I got this from the disc
and Drive section of the device manager.
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia
Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland
Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley
Institute of the Blind
along the lines of talking
about the processer speed, it also should be noted
about the size of the hard drive cache, also you
can't forget that the faster the processer speed the
ram speed might have something to do with the speed
as well. as an example the faster processers of
today need the faster ram like ddr4 ram if i'm not
mistaken.
-----Original Message-----
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Feb 2, 2019 5:15 PM
To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Hi Michael,
the start up speed is due
to the type of hard drive that you have. There
are hard drives with lower revolutions per
minute and higher revolutions per minute and
then there are solid state drives which are
quicker. There are settings that can be adjusted
to change how your windows machine loads.
On Feb 2, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...>
wrote:
Well, don't give up. If the slow
machine doesn't have one (most likely) you
should consider having a solid state drive
(ssd) installed. Your boot speed will go
up a lot. You can often get away with a
much smaller drive if you aren't using all
of what you have. I went from a 1tb drive
on my old laptop to a 512gb ssd. At that
time, 1tb was more than i wanted to
spend. It helped a lot. I eventually
took that drive and put it in my wife's
machine and gave up on my 8-year-old
laptop, it was way slower than what you
have.
Good luck.
CH
On 2/2/2019
16:49, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks all. Yes
the start up time really drive's me
crazy. I used two different computers,
one of them is faster then the other.
I just want to know the information of
the speed.
Thanks for
answering my question.
Michael Munn
Michael
Munn
Member:
Virginia
Association of
Blind students
Member:
Maryland
Association of
Blind Students
Students
of: Hadley
Institute of the
Blind
If applications are running
more slowly than you would like,
it would be best to find out why
before investing in any new
hardware.
If I recall correctly,
Performance Monitor will show you
how much your CPU, memory and
storage are being used over time.
Some of the same information is in
Task Manager as well.
On 2/2/19
2:06 PM, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks
so much for the detail. i
really appreciate it.
I got
this laptop in DECEMBER of
2015. It's the current
generation at that point.
I
just want to know about the
information of the laptop
that I'm currently using.
Michael
Munn
Member:
Virginia
Association of
Blind students
Member:
Maryland
Association of
Blind Students
Students
of: Hadley
Institute of
the Blind
On
Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
wrote:
And
if you are gaming over
the internet and you are
on a 6 Mbps ADSL
connection a super-fast
computer with the latest
processor and 32Gb of
RAM won’t do you much
good. Computers are a
system and they are made
up of various components
and they all play a
roll. To again use my
car example from the
previous email, the
high-end Mercedes or BMW
which can go 160 or 180
miles an hour won’t do
you much good if you are
taking the Road to Hanna
on Maui. For those who
don’t know of it, it’s a
2-lane highway which
over a distance of just
over 64 miles has
approximately 620 curves
many of them hairpin
turns and you can rarely
go faster than 30 miles
an hour. In this case
that highway would be
equivalent to your
internet connection
speed. I can take my
7-year old laptop on my
275 Mbps fiber
connection and download
things a lot faster than
somebody with the latest
9th
generation I7 system on
a much slower
connection.
all
depends on what you
are doing. If you're
into gaming on line
real-time over the
internet, then you
need one heck of a lot
more speed and memory.
So it really depends.
You're better off than
if you still had an
Apple II+ with 64k RAM
and a 6052 processor.
What
I'm saying is that
this is a very
open-ended question,
and your answers will
vary. For now, you
have plenty, and
actually more memory
than I have, but then
I'm a senior citizen.
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker,
Engineer, Musician,
and Pioneer
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Saturday, February
02, 2019 09:56
Hi
all, this is
Michael.
Today
I checked the
processor of my HP
laptop and here is
the information I
get for the
processor:
Processor:
Intel(R)
Core(TM)
i5-5200U CPU @
2.20GHz 2.20
GHz
Installed
memory (RAM):
8.00 GB
System
type: 64-bit
Operating
System,
x64-based
processor
Is
2.2 GHZ enough?
and how fast can
it run?
All
comment and
answers are
greatly appreciate
it.
|
|
|
That is a fairly generic 1Tb 2.5 inch laptop hard drive with 32Mb of Cache and 5,400 RPM (revolutions per minute).
I can see that after a little over 3 years this is not going to be the fastest, as I said before and now that it is confirmed you have a regular hard drive, you would get the most speed boost out of replacing this with a solid state drive.
You would have to see how much space of this you use, but you would most likely want a 512Gb SSD, it is half the size of your current drive, but as far as what you get for your buck this is pretty much where the sweet spot is now. If you go to 240Gb you may
run into space issues and you only save maybe $30 or $40, but if you want a 1Tb SSD (same size as what you have now) you’ll pay double of what a 512Gb costs, prices are constantly coming down and in a couple of years you’ll probably be able to buy a 1Tb for
the same price as a 512Gb now, but that won’t do you any good. Of course you can just put up with longer boot times and loading times of applications and keep it the way it is. You would have to check anyways if this laptop you have can even be easily opened
up, some of these convertible tablets/laptop thingies are sealed and changing components is not easily possible. Then of course there is the consideration whether it is worth putting $100 or $150 into it, I assume you can’t switch the drives out yourself and
I have no idea what a place like Best Buy would charge for that. Keep in mind that you want to make sure you have a good backup of all your data and that whatever applications you have are available for a fresh install either by download or that you have the
installers on a USB stick. If you change drives you start out with a fresh install of Windows which if you are comfortable with it you can do yourself with Narrator, then you have to install Jaws or NVDA (whatever you use) and after that install things like
Chrome and/or Firefox, Office, iTunes or whatever applications you use. Depending on how much user data you have on your current hard drive you could copy it to an external hard drive first. You can get a 1Tb external drive in the States probably for $50 or
$60 so not such a big expense and it is something you then have and can continue to use.
As for David’s comments on RAM, whether you buy a laptop or other computer, they do come with whatever RAM is supported by your CPU. You could not put DDR 4 RAM into your laptop which I am quite sure has and can only take DDR 3 RAM. If
you have a custom system built you want to of course make sure you get the best RAM possible for your processor and motherboard at the time, beyond that RAM speed is not really a big issue and how much cache a hard drive has is also a lot less important than
whether you have a hard drive or SSD.
Regards,
Sieghard
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Here is the information about the drive of this laptop:
HGST HTS541010A7E630
I got this from the disc and Drive section of the device manager.
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
along the lines of talking about the processer speed, it also should be noted about the size of the hard drive cache, also you can't
forget that the faster the processer speed the ram speed might have something to do with the speed as well. as an example the faster processers of today need the faster ram like ddr4 ram if i'm not mistaken.
-----Original Message-----
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Feb 2, 2019 5:15 PM
To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Hi Michael,
the start up speed is due to the type of hard drive that you have. There are hard drives with lower revolutions per minute and higher revolutions per minute and
then there are solid state drives which are quicker. There are settings that can be adjusted to change how your windows machine loads.
On Feb 2, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Well, don't give up. If the slow machine doesn't have one (most likely) you should consider having a solid state drive (ssd) installed. Your boot speed will go up a lot. You can
often get away with a much smaller drive if you aren't using all of what you have. I went from a 1tb drive on my old laptop to a 512gb ssd. At that time, 1tb was more than i wanted to spend. It helped a lot. I eventually took that drive and put it in my
wife's machine and gave up on my 8-year-old laptop, it was way slower than what you have.
Good luck.
CH
On 2/2/2019 16:49, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks all. Yes the start up time really drive's me crazy. I used two different computers, one of them is faster then the other. I just want to know the information
of the speed.
Thanks for answering my question.
Michael Munn
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
If applications are running more slowly than you would like, it would be best to find out why before investing in any new hardware.
If I recall correctly, Performance Monitor will show you how much your CPU, memory and storage are being used over time. Some of the same information is in Task Manager as well.
On 2/2/19 2:06 PM, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks so much for the detail. i really appreciate it.
I got this laptop in DECEMBER of 2015. It's the current generation at that point.
I just want to know about the information of the laptop that I'm currently using.
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:
And if you are gaming over the internet and you are on a 6 Mbps ADSL connection a super-fast computer with
the latest processor and 32Gb of RAM won’t do you much good. Computers are a system and they are made up of various components and they all play a roll. To again use my car example from the previous email, the high-end Mercedes or BMW which can go 160 or 180
miles an hour won’t do you much good if you are taking the Road to Hanna on Maui. For those who don’t know of it, it’s a 2-lane highway which over a distance of just over 64 miles has approximately 620 curves many of them hairpin turns and you can rarely go
faster than 30 miles an hour. In this case that highway would be equivalent to your internet connection speed. I can take my 7-year old laptop on my 275 Mbps fiber connection and download things a lot faster than somebody with the latest 9th generation
I7 system on a much slower connection.
all depends on what you are doing. If you're into gaming on line real-time over the internet, then you
need one heck of a lot more speed and memory. So it really depends. You're better off than if you still had an Apple II+ with 64k RAM and a 6052 processor.
What I'm saying is that this is a very open-ended question, and your answers will vary. For now, you have
plenty, and actually more memory than I have, but then I'm a senior citizen.
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday,
February 02, 2019 09:56
Hi all, this is Michael.
Today I checked the processor of my HP laptop and here is the information I get for the processor:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz
Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB
System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
Is 2.2 GHZ enough? and how fast can it run?
All comment and answers are greatly appreciate it.
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Here is the information about the drive of this laptop: HGST HTS541010A7E630
I got this from the disc and Drive section of the device manager. Thanks best regards Michael munn
Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
along the lines of talking about the processer speed, it also should be noted about the size of the hard drive cache, also you can't forget that the faster the processer speed the ram speed might have something to do with the speed as well. as an example the faster processers of today need the faster ram like ddr4 ram if i'm not mistaken. -----Original Message-----
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Feb 2, 2019 5:15 PM
To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Hi Michael,
the start up speed is due to the type of hard drive that you have. There are hard drives with lower revolutions per minute and higher revolutions per minute and then there are solid state drives which are quicker. There are settings that can be adjusted
to change how your windows machine loads.
On Feb 2, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Chris Hill < hillco@...> wrote:
Well, don't give up. If the slow machine doesn't have one (most likely) you should consider having a solid state drive (ssd) installed. Your boot speed will go up a lot. You can often get away with a much smaller drive if you aren't using all of what
you have. I went from a 1tb drive on my old laptop to a 512gb ssd. At that time, 1tb was more than i wanted to spend. It helped a lot. I eventually took that drive and put it in my wife's machine and gave up on my 8-year-old laptop, it was way slower than
what you have.
Good luck.
CH
On 2/2/2019 16:49, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks all. Yes the start up time really drive's me crazy. I used two different computers, one of them is faster then the other. I just want to know the information of the speed.
Thanks for answering my question.
Best regards
Michael Munn
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
If applications are running more slowly than you would like, it would be best to find out why before investing in any new hardware.
If I recall correctly, Performance Monitor will show you how much your CPU, memory and storage are being used over time. Some of the same information is in Task Manager as well.
On 2/2/19 2:06 PM, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks so much for the detail. i really appreciate it.
I got this laptop in DECEMBER of 2015. It's the current generation at that point.
I just want to know about the information of the laptop that I'm currently using.
Thanks again.
Best regards
Michael Munn
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel < sieghard@...> wrote:
And if you are gaming over the internet and you are on a 6 Mbps ADSL connection a super-fast computer with the latest processor and 32Gb of RAM won’t do you much good. Computers are a system and they are made up of various components and
they all play a roll. To again use my car example from the previous email, the high-end Mercedes or BMW which can go 160 or 180 miles an hour won’t do you much good if you are taking the Road to Hanna on Maui. For those who don’t know of it, it’s a 2-lane
highway which over a distance of just over 64 miles has approximately 620 curves many of them hairpin turns and you can rarely go faster than 30 miles an hour. In this case that highway would be equivalent to your internet connection speed. I can take my 7-year
old laptop on my 275 Mbps fiber connection and download things a lot faster than somebody with the latest 9th generation I7 system on a much slower connection.
all depends on what you are doing. If you're into gaming on line real-time over the internet, then you need one heck of a lot more speed and memory. So it really depends. You're better off than if you still had an Apple II+ with 64k RAM
and a 6052 processor.
What I'm saying is that this is a very open-ended question, and your answers will vary. For now, you have plenty, and actually more memory than I have, but then I'm a senior citizen.
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 09:56
Hi all, this is Michael.
Today I checked the processor of my HP laptop and here is the information I get for the processor:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz
Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB
System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
Is 2.2 GHZ enough? and how fast can it run?
All comment and answers are greatly appreciate it.
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along the lines of talking about the processer speed, it also should be noted about the size of the hard drive cache, also you can't forget that the faster the processer speed the ram speed might have something to do with the speed as well. as an example the faster processers of today need the faster ram like ddr4 ram if i'm not mistaken.
-----Original Message-----
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Feb 2, 2019 5:15 PM
To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Hi Michael,
the start up speed is due to the type of hard drive that you have. There are hard drives with lower revolutions per minute and higher revolutions per minute and then there are solid state drives which are quicker. There are settings that can be adjusted
to change how your windows machine loads.
On Feb 2, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Chris Hill < hillco@...> wrote:
Well, don't give up. If the slow machine doesn't have one (most likely) you should consider having a solid state drive (ssd) installed. Your boot speed will go up a lot. You can often get away with a much smaller drive if you aren't using all of what
you have. I went from a 1tb drive on my old laptop to a 512gb ssd. At that time, 1tb was more than i wanted to spend. It helped a lot. I eventually took that drive and put it in my wife's machine and gave up on my 8-year-old laptop, it was way slower than
what you have.
Good luck.
CH
On 2/2/2019 16:49, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks all. Yes the start up time really drive's me crazy. I used two different computers, one of them is faster then the other. I just want to know the information of the speed.
Thanks for answering my question.
Best regards
Michael Munn
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
If applications are running more slowly than you would like, it would be best to find out why before investing in any new hardware.
If I recall correctly, Performance Monitor will show you how much your CPU, memory and storage are being used over time. Some of the same information is in Task Manager as well.
On 2/2/19 2:06 PM, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks so much for the detail. i really appreciate it.
I got this laptop in DECEMBER of 2015. It's the current generation at that point.
I just want to know about the information of the laptop that I'm currently using.
Thanks again.
Best regards
Michael Munn
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel < sieghard@...> wrote:
And if you are gaming over the internet and you are on a 6 Mbps ADSL connection a super-fast computer with the latest processor and 32Gb of RAM won’t do you much good. Computers are a system and they are made up of various components and
they all play a roll. To again use my car example from the previous email, the high-end Mercedes or BMW which can go 160 or 180 miles an hour won’t do you much good if you are taking the Road to Hanna on Maui. For those who don’t know of it, it’s a 2-lane
highway which over a distance of just over 64 miles has approximately 620 curves many of them hairpin turns and you can rarely go faster than 30 miles an hour. In this case that highway would be equivalent to your internet connection speed. I can take my 7-year
old laptop on my 275 Mbps fiber connection and download things a lot faster than somebody with the latest 9th generation I7 system on a much slower connection.
all depends on what you are doing. If you're into gaming on line real-time over the internet, then you need one heck of a lot more speed and memory. So it really depends. You're better off than if you still had an Apple II+ with 64k RAM
and a 6052 processor.
What I'm saying is that this is a very open-ended question, and your answers will vary. For now, you have plenty, and actually more memory than I have, but then I'm a senior citizen.
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 09:56
Hi all, this is Michael.
Today I checked the processor of my HP laptop and here is the information I get for the processor:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz
Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB
System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
Is 2.2 GHZ enough? and how fast can it run?
All comment and answers are greatly appreciate it.
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Go to the Device Manager, tab once into the treeview and arrow down 5 or 6 times to “Disk Drives”. Right arrow to expand it and see what you have. It may give a model number, you can Google that or post it here and I can tell you what you
have.
Easiest way to get to the device manager in Windows 10 is to press Windows Key + X followed by “M” as in “Manager” or down arrow to Device Manager and press enter.
Regards,
Sieghard
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Processor speed
Ok thanks I'm running windows 10 64 bit of operating system. I don't know what drive is this computer is using.
This is a Tablet and Laptop combo.
it's an Hp NV X convertible. It does not have a DVD drive.
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 5:53 PM Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Well, don't give up. If the slow machine doesn't have one (most likely) you should consider having a solid state drive (ssd) installed. Your boot speed will go up a lot. You can often get away with a much smaller drive if you aren't using all of what
you have. I went from a 1tb drive on my old laptop to a 512gb ssd. At that time, 1tb was more than i wanted to spend. It helped a lot. I eventually took that drive and put it in my wife's machine and gave up on my 8-year-old laptop, it was way slower than
what you have.
Good luck.
CH
On 2/2/2019 16:49, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks all. Yes the start up time really drive's me crazy. I used two different computers, one of them is faster then the other. I just want to know the information of the speed.
Thanks for answering my question.
Michael Munn
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
If applications are running more slowly than you would like, it would be best to find out why before investing in any new hardware.
If I recall correctly, Performance Monitor will show you how much your CPU, memory and storage are being used over time. Some of the same information is in Task Manager as well.
On 2/2/19 2:06 PM, Michael Munn wrote:
Thanks so much for the detail. i really appreciate it.
I got this laptop in DECEMBER of 2015. It's the current generation at that point.
I just want to know about the information of the laptop that I'm currently using.
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:
And if you are gaming over the internet and you are on a 6 Mbps ADSL connection a super-fast computer with the latest processor and 32Gb of RAM won’t do you much good. Computers
are a system and they are made up of various components and they all play a roll. To again use my car example from the previous email, the high-end Mercedes or BMW which can go 160 or 180 miles an hour won’t do you much good if you are taking the Road to Hanna
on Maui. For those who don’t know of it, it’s a 2-lane highway which over a distance of just over 64 miles has approximately 620 curves many of them hairpin turns and you can rarely go faster than 30 miles an hour. In this case that highway would be equivalent
to your internet connection speed. I can take my 7-year old laptop on my 275 Mbps fiber connection and download things a lot faster than somebody with the latest 9th generation I7 system on a much slower connection.
all depends on what you are doing. If you're into gaming on line real-time over the internet, then you need one heck of a lot more speed and memory. So it really depends. You're
better off than if you still had an Apple II+ with 64k RAM and a 6052 processor.
What I'm saying is that this is a very open-ended question, and your answers will vary. For now, you have plenty, and actually more memory than I have, but then I'm a senior citizen.
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 09:56
Hi all, this is Michael.
Today I checked the processor of my HP laptop and here is the information I get for the processor:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz
Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB
System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
Is 2.2 GHZ enough? and how fast can it run?
All comment and answers are greatly appreciate it.
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Re: Marking text to go to the clipboard with Jaws
"smile" its that last step it will always get you
Thanks
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marten Post Uiterweer Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 2:37 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Marking text to go to the clipboard with Jaws Nino, You forget a step. ctrl-shift-k to begin marking. ins-space, m, to end the mark. Press ctrl-c. Now your text is on the clipboard. Regards, Marten On Sat, 2 Feb 2019 14:34:19 -0500 "Nino Dagostino" <ndagostino3@gmail.com> wrote: Hello:
I tried to mark some text with Jaws using the control windows keys and
k
I can mark the text but when I press jaws key and spacebar and then
press c for copy, Jaws says no text on the clipboard.
What is the best way to copy text form the clipboard I have to mark a
lot of text.
Any help would be appreciated.
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