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Re: List of folders in Outlook 2016

Bill White
 

Hi, Kevin. When you have someone available to help you, why not turn off media keys in UEFI? Then, when you need those media keys like SHIFT plus F6 to bring up notifications, or F6 to turn the touchpad on or off, just use the FN key in combination with the function keys. Otherwise, the function keys would then act just like they would on any desktop computer.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 2:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: List of folders in Outlook 2016

 

Hello.  I’m using the most recent versions of Windows 10, Outlook 2016 and JAWS 2021.  I’m setting up a new Asus laptop, and pulling in the data from the old Acer laptop for Outlook seemed to work, but I need to list the folders, which I used to do on the old laptop with Shift-F6.  Now that key combo causes Windows notifications to come up.  The F6 key by itself on my new laptop turns the touchpad on and off.


Re: List of folders in Outlook 2016

kevin meyers
 

Thanks, Control + Y did it!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 4:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: List of folders in Outlook 2016

 

It is either Control + Shift + F6 or Control + Y also brings u the folder list.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: September 26, 2021 2:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: List of folders in Outlook 2016

 

Hello.  I’m using the most recent versions of Windows 10, Outlook 2016 and JAWS 2021.  I’m setting up a new Asus laptop, and pulling in the data from the old Acer laptop for Outlook seemed to work, but I need to list the folders, which I used to do on the old laptop with Shift-F6.  Now that key combo causes Windows notifications to come up.  The F6 key by itself on my new laptop turns the touchpad on and off.


Re: List of folders in Outlook 2016

 

It is either Control + Shift + F6 or Control + Y also brings u the folder list.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: September 26, 2021 2:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: List of folders in Outlook 2016

 

Hello.  I’m using the most recent versions of Windows 10, Outlook 2016 and JAWS 2021.  I’m setting up a new Asus laptop, and pulling in the data from the old Acer laptop for Outlook seemed to work, but I need to list the folders, which I used to do on the old laptop with Shift-F6.  Now that key combo causes Windows notifications to come up.  The F6 key by itself on my new laptop turns the touchpad on and off.


List of folders in Outlook 2016

kevin meyers
 

Hello.  I’m using the most recent versions of Windows 10, Outlook 2016 and JAWS 2021.  I’m setting up a new Asus laptop, and pulling in the data from the old Acer laptop for Outlook seemed to work, but I need to list the folders, which I used to do on the old laptop with Shift-F6.  Now that key combo causes Windows notifications to come up.  The F6 key by itself on my new laptop turns the touchpad on and off.


Re: Outlook 2016 versus 2019

Leo
 

Hello, it’s been nearly 4 years since the last time I used Office 2016; then I started using Office 2019 until a month ago when I jumped into Microsoft 365, and I am very happy. The experience is better in my opinion, and Jaws 2022 beta version goes a bit faster in 365. I believe Microsoft 365 is a good option because Microsoft decided to implement more accessibility improvement in this version.  Besides, the changes and improvements in Jaws are focused mostly on 365 as stated from Freedom Scientific fellows.

 

Best,

     Leo Bado.

 

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul Auster. "City of Glass"

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 8:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2016 versus 2019

 

Hello,

I’m using the most recent versions of Jaws2021, windows10 and Outlook 2016. How does Jaws work with Outlook 2019?

Cheers,

Kevin

 


Re: subscribing to a mailing list specifically for using jaws with different programs?

Hank William Merchant
 

 
 
Hello back Brian,
 
Thanks very much for getting back to my inquiry email so soon with this very helpful info below for joining the below very helpful mailing lists. Your help on this is so very much appreciated! Again much, much thanks!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Kindest regards,
 
Hank
 
 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: subscribing to a mailing list specifically for using jaws with different programs?
 
This group, and the JFW Users Group are both for precisely that purpose.  This one has a less strict moderation policy.

But note well, both are focused on JAWS, not the programs you're using JAWS to access, and this is perfectly appropriate.

If you're looking for more broad-based information about using Windows 10 with JAWS then consider the Windows Access with Screen Readers Group.

There is no group dedicated to discussion of any program you can name while using a screen reader to access it.  But there are tons of groups, including the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group, that are dedicated to specific programs or suites of programs.

The screen reader and the thing it's accessing are two separate things, and how a given program works (whether with point and click or keyboard shortcuts) is entirely separate from the screen reader being used on top of it.

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Re: Search in Excel

kevin meyers
 

Thanks Ben!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ben Moxey
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 3:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Search in Excel

 

Hi Kevin

 

I’m not sure about the “mail” interruption you describe. But I’m hoping this tip might help with searching in Excel.

 

  1. Press Control + F and type what you want to find.
  2. Press Enter to start the search.
  3. Press Escape to exit the Find box and be placed on the cell with the first find result.
  4. Press F4 to be placed on the cell with the next result, or Shift + F4 to move to the previous.

 

All the best.

 

Ben

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 12:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Search in Excel

 

 

Hello, I’m using the most recent versions of windows10, Office 2016 and Jaws2021. I will be doing a search in Excel using control F. After a few times of pressing the enter key to move to the next find, I’m put into a window that says mail. I have to do a alt tab to get back into the Excel window and it is still on the search function. Why would I be pushed out of the Excel window? What is the window that says mail? I cannot arrow up and down or tab. I go into Jaws cursor and there is nothing on the screen. There are times the same thing happens in Outlook of suddenly being pushed to a window that just says mail. Thanks, Kevin


Re: subscribing to a mailing list specifically for using jaws with different programs?

 

This group, and the JFW Users Group are both for precisely that purpose.  This one has a less strict moderation policy.

But note well, both are focused on JAWS, not the programs you're using JAWS to access, and this is perfectly appropriate.

If you're looking for more broad-based information about using Windows 10 with JAWS then consider the Windows Access with Screen Readers Group.

There is no group dedicated to discussion of any program you can name while using a screen reader to access it.  But there are tons of groups, including the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group, that are dedicated to specific programs or suites of programs.

The screen reader and the thing it's accessing are two separate things, and how a given program works (whether with point and click or keyboard shortcuts) is entirely separate from the screen reader being used on top of it.

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Outlook 2016 versus 2019

kevin meyers
 

Hello,

I’m using the most recent versions of Jaws2021, windows10 and Outlook 2016. How does Jaws work with Outlook 2019?

Cheers,

Kevin

 


Re: subscribing to a mailing list specifically for using jaws with different programs?

Hank William Merchant
 

 

 

Good morning,

 

Is there maybe a mailing list for using jaws with different programs? If there is, can someone please maybe tell me the email address to subscribe to such a list? Any help with this would be so very, very much appreciated! Much, much thanks in advance for any possible help with this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kindest regards,

 

Jaws 2021 with Win10 user Hank

 


Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?

Jason White
 


On 25/9/21 19:08, Hank William Merchant wrote:
 
This is perfect! This is going to be super great that you will be able to direct the output of jaws to be only in either the left-hand side ear or the right-hand side ear in jaws 2022 if you do not want jaws in both ears!

I tested this with a Microsoft Teams meeting recently, and it worked as intended.

Be aware of the limitations stated in the JAWS 2022 beta release notes. However, some of those limitations (specifically the inability to work with non-default audio devices) may be resolved by the time of the final JAWS 2022 release.

In meetings, I generally switch off speech and use only the braille display, so this is not a feature that I would be likely to need. Of course, there are other people with different use cases.


Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?

Hank William Merchant
 

 
 
Good evening Sieghard,
 
This is perfect! This is going to be super great that you will be able to direct the output of jaws to be only in either the left-hand side ear or the right-hand side ear in jaws 2022 if you do not want jaws in both ears! Thanks for letting me know this Sieghard about the upcoming release of jaws 2022. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
All the best,
Kindest regards,
 
Hank
 
 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?
 

Keep in mind that in the upcoming Jaws 2022 release you can now switch Jaws to either the left or right ear while having audio from another application on the opposite ear. If, for example, you use Teams or are on a Zoom call, you could have Jaws speaking on the right ear and have Teams or Zoom coming through the left ear. It's another fantastic feature which shows how Vispero continues to add useful features to Jaws and make it the screenreader of choice for most professionals and people who want the best performance and feature set.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: September 25, 2021 4:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?

 

 

 

Ok, perfect! Thanks for letting me know. They certainly sound like a really good pair of earphones and just the ones I am looking for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All the best,

Kindest regards,

 

Hank

 

 

From: David Griffith

Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:27 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?

 

 

They are certainly loud enough for me.

I think the loudest headphones I use.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Hank William Merchant
Sent: 20 September 2021 04:45
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?

 

 

 

Good afternoon David Griffith,

 

So you find that these OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver wired earphones that you did a review on below are quite loud earphones?

 

I ask this about the loudness of them as I will need a very loud, good pair of wired earphones to use at an incoming calls call centre to hear Jaws clearly in my right-hand side ear so I can use the computer properly, (because I have some hearing loss in my right-hand side ear), while I take care of customer’s inquiries in my left-hand side ear.

 

Any help you can maybe give me on this loudness concern I have about these particular earphones would be so very, very much appreciated! Much, much thanks in advance for any possible help I can maybe get with this!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kindest regards,

 

Hank

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

I hesitated to post this here initially as it is a Jaws list.  However given the persistence of interest I did a recent review on a pair of cheap headphones which would meet all these access requirements.

Review

OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver

 

Occasionally a mainstream product emerges which inadvertently meets all sorts of accessibility needs. The OneOdio Over Ear Headphone certainly do that, despite being described as D. J> Head pones, and their capacity for dual input may make them an important affordable access solution in the workplace.

 

Ironically access was not really considered when these headphones were ordered. They were a Christmas present from my daughter who was most interested in their noise cancelling aspect. The hope was that this would protect both herself and my wife from the sound of NVDA and Jaws leaking out whilst they were listening to the Television.

My deaf ears makes my listening volume loud and can disturb others with leakage.

 

Certainly these headphones reduce leakage and I now receive requests to switch back to them if I am using a different pair.

 

For general usage they are very pleasant wired headphones , with a good powerful bass sound. they are light if slightly bulky for portable usage. They are rated as the number 1 Amazon best seller for D. J Headphones.

They are also very reasonably priced at £34.99.

There are however 3 more important access features of these headphones.

 

The first access plus is the headphone loudness.

Prolonged loud headphone volume is undeniably dangerous for people with normal hearing. People with normal or mildly impaired hearing should heed all the warnings. However for people like me with congenital severe deafness it is essential to find headphones which can pump out volume. Pretty much every year I end up giving away headphones or earphones which are useless as they are just too quiet. Without suitable head pones producing sufficient volume I would be incapable of typing this review, making a pone call or listening to my Audio books Radio and Music.

Luckily these headphones are well capable of providing the necessary pump.

 

The second access capability is that they have sufficient headband tension to enable precise placement adjacent to or over my hearing aids. Lots of head pones are unusable with hearing aids as it is impossible to prevent high pitched feedback whistling without this precise placement.

 

Thirdly and probably most importantly is that these headphones can be used in dual input mode.

There are 2 input ports for the headphones.

The right ear receives an old style 6.5 mm headphone plug which has a normal 3.5mm plug at the other end of the cable. This cable is partly coiled to connect easily over distance too computers and other audio devices.

The left ear receives a small 2.5mm plug which via a shorter cable, connects to a normal 3.5mm plug. This cable includes an inline remote control and mic for playing and pausing, answering phone calls etc. This shorted cable is clearly suitable for connecting to any phone capable of receiving wired headphones.

I have tested this cable with my Google Pixel 4A and my old iPhone SE first generation via a lightning audio cable adapter. It worked as expected with both devices. It also worked with my Victor reader Trek and even paused and played via the remote inline control like the phones.

It received audio from my blind Shell Classic phone and Evo 10 Daisy Player but not surprisingly these devices did not respond to the inline remote control.

 

What I did not immediately appreciate is that it is possible to have both these input sources simultaneously connected.

So whilst I am typing this review I am also connected to my Blind Shell Classic phone. I am able to operate the phone, make and receive calls, all at the same time being able to consult my computer via my screenreader. If I need to make notes whilst listening to a call this is straightforward .

In the past this would be a struggle for me. For example I used to do Internet grocery shopping for my Mother in law, in her 90s. This involved me ringing her but also having to navigate the Sainsburys Web site on my PC. On several occasions I resorted to wearing 2 paris of headphones, one on top the other to try and complete this tricky process.

I would also have found these headphones an invaluable aid in work. In those days I relied on memory, clattering down notes immediately after the call.

More expensive phone and mixing devices were available , I remember using such a device at the RNIB but these headpones are a far easier, cheaper option.

 

I am, in summary, not sure what there is not to like. These are not a blue tooth option which is a plus for me because of issues i can describe another day.

Details from the Amazon Website below, and finally a link  to the UK Amazon below that.

David Griffith

 

OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver

Large, 50 millimeter speaker unit drivers combined with neodymium magnets provides stereo Hi-Fi level sound; powerful bass, clear vocal, and crisp high tones form perfect balanced sound.

• A standard-sized 3.5mm plug aux cable with mic are included (make it a headphone with mic. A long, DJ-style 9.8ft cord with 6.35 plug easily reaches from the TV or stereo to your sofa. They both are completely detachable, so that you don't need to spend all hours of the day plugged into your mixer.

• 90° swiveling earcups for single-ear monitoring anytime; self-adjustable and flexible headband delivers a fatigue-free listening experience that can last for hours, perfect for mastering and mixing.

• Luxuriously padded ear cushions are specifically designed for monitor headphones maximum comfort and noise isolation. The headband is adjustable and stretchable for you to find the desired angle you like to fit in.

• With the sleek design and high-end sound quality, OneOdio headphones are made for smart phones, all Androids, tablets, mp3 players, and related devices. OneOdio offers 30 days money back, 24-month guarantee and 24 hours friendly after service

 

Link to Amazon page.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/OneOdio-Headphones-Monitoring-Neodymium-Headsets-Standard-Version/dp/B01MZHAX5S

 

I post the below from my blog.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 15 June 2021 16:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

And if you work for a call centre you should talk to your boss regarding a custom solution where you have Jaws on one ear and your phone call on the other. This is definitely possible with wired headsets, probably more difficult with Bluetooth.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

Hank,It sounds like ideally, you want something that would allow you to only use one ear; and what I remember about the Bose is that it would be very difficult to remove the left, or position it so your work headset could be worn.

 

Loudness somewhat depends on your system and the Jaws setting, but if you could use a Bluetooth single ear piece, there are lots of choices from Plantronics.

 

 

 

Richard

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 7:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

 

 

Good morning Phillip,

 

I am personally looking for a very loud pair of good earphones so I will be able to hear jaws loud enough in only my right hand side ear, (I have a bit of hearing loss in my right hand side ear), because I will not be able to use my other ear to also hear jaws, because I will need to use my left hand side ear solely to hear properly incoming cusstomer calls and talk to them through a separte one ear headset with a mike at an incoming calls call centre.

 

Can you maybe please tell me if these Bose QC 35 II headphones are quite loud? Any help you can maybe give me with this would be so very much appreciated! Much, much thanks in advance for any help!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kindest regards,

 

Hank

 

 

__ 

 

From: Phillip Gross

Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 8:18 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

It helps to know what you are looking to spend. The options at $50 are a lot different than the $300 options.

I personally use the Bose QC 35 II headphones. I have had them for about 3 years now and use them daily. I would estimate I wear them an average of 8 hours a day including weekends. I use them for work and personal use. They have a Bluetooth option, and I do use it, but most of the time I plug them into my computer or iPad. The battery is supposed to last 20 hours if you’re using Bluetooth and 40 hours if they are plugged into a 3.5 jack and you’re just using noise canceling. The foam began coming out of the ear pieces about a year ago, but I replaced them for about $30.

 

 


Re: Outlook and Replies Issue

Mike B.
 

The issue was resolved, here's how:
I contacted the MS help desk, and she said there were rules created for messages to go to that This Computer Only folder.
 
That baffles me.  I’ve never created that folder.  Besides I don’t know the syntax for rules.
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
To: JList
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:52 PM
Subject: Outlook and Replies Issue

Hi All,
 
A friend is running Win10 latest, Outlook 2019 with Jaws2021 latest.  Whenever he sends an email to someone, and they reply, the reply emails go to a folder called,
Task This Computer Only,
whereas, all replies use to go to the In Box.
Does anyone have any ideas of what’s going on here and how to make all replies to his messages go to the In Box like there suppose to? 
All help is greatly appreciated!  Thanks mooy moocho.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 


Re: Beta

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: September 25, 2021 10:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

I did not know October 5th was the target date.

 

Yes, the beta will work fine they say.

 

Jaws 2021 has been reported by some insiders to work, but I gather with a lot of fiddling with the Touch Cursor, which maybe won’t be needed with Jaws 2022, I hope.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

Windows 11 should be available a little before the official release of Jaws 2022 as Microsoft announced that October 5th will be the official date for its release. However, if you really want to jump on it at that stage you can of course use the Jaws 2022 public beta and I believe Windows 11 will work with Jaws 2021, but maybe not as well, but I think there have been Windows Insiders using it with Jaws 2021 for some time now.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: September 25, 2021 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

Sieghard is correct.

 

Eric Damery announced on one of the recent FS casts that the first public beta would be out in September, which it was.  The second public beta is due out in the first half of October possibly sooner.  The full release is planned for the end of October, early November at the latest in time for Windows 11 for those who jump right on the new Windows version.

At that point, the public beta is done until the next time they release a beta version.

 

I have never been a private beta tester for Jaws, so cannot speak to how that cycle runs.

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 9:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

I think Len is asking when public beta testing ends and not whether all beta testing ends including the closed private beta testing.

In this case "never" is not the correct answer because I am pretty sure that unlike with iOS where you can continue to be part of the public beta testing process for upcoming releases of iOS 15 like 15.1, 15.2 etc. that once Jaws 2022 is released to the public the public Beta cycle ends.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: September 25, 2021 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

Never!

 

 

From: leonard morris
Sent: 25 September 2021 04:22
To: jaws
Subject: Beta

 

When does the Jaws Beta testing end?

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Beta

Richard Turner
 

I did not know October 5th was the target date.

 

Yes, the beta will work fine they say.

 

Jaws 2021 has been reported by some insiders to work, but I gather with a lot of fiddling with the Touch Cursor, which maybe won’t be needed with Jaws 2022, I hope.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

Windows 11 should be available a little before the official release of Jaws 2022 as Microsoft announced that October 5th will be the official date for its release. However, if you really want to jump on it at that stage you can of course use the Jaws 2022 public beta and I believe Windows 11 will work with Jaws 2021, but maybe not as well, but I think there have been Windows Insiders using it with Jaws 2021 for some time now.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: September 25, 2021 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

Sieghard is correct.

 

Eric Damery announced on one of the recent FS casts that the first public beta would be out in September, which it was.  The second public beta is due out in the first half of October possibly sooner.  The full release is planned for the end of October, early November at the latest in time for Windows 11 for those who jump right on the new Windows version.

At that point, the public beta is done until the next time they release a beta version.

 

I have never been a private beta tester for Jaws, so cannot speak to how that cycle runs.

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 9:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

I think Len is asking when public beta testing ends and not whether all beta testing ends including the closed private beta testing.

In this case "never" is not the correct answer because I am pretty sure that unlike with iOS where you can continue to be part of the public beta testing process for upcoming releases of iOS 15 like 15.1, 15.2 etc. that once Jaws 2022 is released to the public the public Beta cycle ends.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: September 25, 2021 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

Never!

 

 

From: leonard morris
Sent: 25 September 2021 04:22
To: jaws
Subject: Beta

 

When does the Jaws Beta testing end?

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Beta

 

Windows 11 should be available a little before the official release of Jaws 2022 as Microsoft announced that October 5th will be the official date for its release. However, if you really want to jump on it at that stage you can of course use the Jaws 2022 public beta and I believe Windows 11 will work with Jaws 2021, but maybe not as well, but I think there have been Windows Insiders using it with Jaws 2021 for some time now.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: September 25, 2021 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

Sieghard is correct.

 

Eric Damery announced on one of the recent FS casts that the first public beta would be out in September, which it was.  The second public beta is due out in the first half of October possibly sooner.  The full release is planned for the end of October, early November at the latest in time for Windows 11 for those who jump right on the new Windows version.

At that point, the public beta is done until the next time they release a beta version.

 

I have never been a private beta tester for Jaws, so cannot speak to how that cycle runs.

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 9:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

I think Len is asking when public beta testing ends and not whether all beta testing ends including the closed private beta testing.

In this case "never" is not the correct answer because I am pretty sure that unlike with iOS where you can continue to be part of the public beta testing process for upcoming releases of iOS 15 like 15.1, 15.2 etc. that once Jaws 2022 is released to the public the public Beta cycle ends.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: September 25, 2021 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

Never!

 

 

From: leonard morris
Sent: 25 September 2021 04:22
To: jaws
Subject: Beta

 

When does the Jaws Beta testing end?

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Beta

Richard Turner
 

Sieghard is correct.

 

Eric Damery announced on one of the recent FS casts that the first public beta would be out in September, which it was.  The second public beta is due out in the first half of October possibly sooner.  The full release is planned for the end of October, early November at the latest in time for Windows 11 for those who jump right on the new Windows version.

At that point, the public beta is done until the next time they release a beta version.

 

I have never been a private beta tester for Jaws, so cannot speak to how that cycle runs.

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 9:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

I think Len is asking when public beta testing ends and not whether all beta testing ends including the closed private beta testing.

In this case "never" is not the correct answer because I am pretty sure that unlike with iOS where you can continue to be part of the public beta testing process for upcoming releases of iOS 15 like 15.1, 15.2 etc. that once Jaws 2022 is released to the public the public Beta cycle ends.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: September 25, 2021 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

Never!

 

 

From: leonard morris
Sent: 25 September 2021 04:22
To: jaws
Subject: Beta

 

When does the Jaws Beta testing end?

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Beta

 

I think Len is asking when public beta testing ends and not whether all beta testing ends including the closed private beta testing.

In this case "never" is not the correct answer because I am pretty sure that unlike with iOS where you can continue to be part of the public beta testing process for upcoming releases of iOS 15 like 15.1, 15.2 etc. that once Jaws 2022 is released to the public the public Beta cycle ends.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: September 25, 2021 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

Never!

 

 

From: leonard morris
Sent: 25 September 2021 04:22
To: jaws
Subject: Beta

 

When does the Jaws Beta testing end?

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?

 

Keep in mind that in the upcoming Jaws 2022 release you can now switch Jaws to either the left or right ear while having audio from another application on the opposite ear. If, for example, you use Teams or are on a Zoom call, you could have Jaws speaking on the right ear and have Teams or Zoom coming through the left ear. It's another fantastic feature which shows how Vispero continues to add useful features to Jaws and make it the screenreader of choice for most professionals and people who want the best performance and feature set.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: September 25, 2021 4:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?

 

 

 

Ok, perfect! Thanks for letting me know. They certainly sound like a really good pair of earphones and just the ones I am looking for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All the best,

Kindest regards,

 

Hank

 

 

From: David Griffith

Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:27 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?

 

 

They are certainly loud enough for me.

I think the loudest headphones I use.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Hank William Merchant
Sent: 20 September 2021 04:45
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?

 

 

 

Good afternoon David Griffith,

 

So you find that these OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver wired earphones that you did a review on below are quite loud earphones?

 

I ask this about the loudness of them as I will need a very loud, good pair of wired earphones to use at an incoming calls call centre to hear Jaws clearly in my right-hand side ear so I can use the computer properly, (because I have some hearing loss in my right-hand side ear), while I take care of customer’s inquiries in my left-hand side ear.

 

Any help you can maybe give me on this loudness concern I have about these particular earphones would be so very, very much appreciated! Much, much thanks in advance for any possible help I can maybe get with this!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kindest regards,

 

Hank

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

I hesitated to post this here initially as it is a Jaws list.  However given the persistence of interest I did a recent review on a pair of cheap headphones which would meet all these access requirements.

Review

OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver

 

Occasionally a mainstream product emerges which inadvertently meets all sorts of accessibility needs. The OneOdio Over Ear Headphone certainly do that, despite being described as D. J> Head pones, and their capacity for dual input may make them an important affordable access solution in the workplace.

 

Ironically access was not really considered when these headphones were ordered. They were a Christmas present from my daughter who was most interested in their noise cancelling aspect. The hope was that this would protect both herself and my wife from the sound of NVDA and Jaws leaking out whilst they were listening to the Television.

My deaf ears makes my listening volume loud and can disturb others with leakage.

 

Certainly these headphones reduce leakage and I now receive requests to switch back to them if I am using a different pair.

 

For general usage they are very pleasant wired headphones , with a good powerful bass sound. they are light if slightly bulky for portable usage. They are rated as the number 1 Amazon best seller for D. J Headphones.

They are also very reasonably priced at £34.99.

There are however 3 more important access features of these headphones.

 

The first access plus is the headphone loudness.

Prolonged loud headphone volume is undeniably dangerous for people with normal hearing. People with normal or mildly impaired hearing should heed all the warnings. However for people like me with congenital severe deafness it is essential to find headphones which can pump out volume. Pretty much every year I end up giving away headphones or earphones which are useless as they are just too quiet. Without suitable head pones producing sufficient volume I would be incapable of typing this review, making a pone call or listening to my Audio books Radio and Music.

Luckily these headphones are well capable of providing the necessary pump.

 

The second access capability is that they have sufficient headband tension to enable precise placement adjacent to or over my hearing aids. Lots of head pones are unusable with hearing aids as it is impossible to prevent high pitched feedback whistling without this precise placement.

 

Thirdly and probably most importantly is that these headphones can be used in dual input mode.

There are 2 input ports for the headphones.

The right ear receives an old style 6.5 mm headphone plug which has a normal 3.5mm plug at the other end of the cable. This cable is partly coiled to connect easily over distance too computers and other audio devices.

The left ear receives a small 2.5mm plug which via a shorter cable, connects to a normal 3.5mm plug. This cable includes an inline remote control and mic for playing and pausing, answering phone calls etc. This shorted cable is clearly suitable for connecting to any phone capable of receiving wired headphones.

I have tested this cable with my Google Pixel 4A and my old iPhone SE first generation via a lightning audio cable adapter. It worked as expected with both devices. It also worked with my Victor reader Trek and even paused and played via the remote inline control like the phones.

It received audio from my blind Shell Classic phone and Evo 10 Daisy Player but not surprisingly these devices did not respond to the inline remote control.

 

What I did not immediately appreciate is that it is possible to have both these input sources simultaneously connected.

So whilst I am typing this review I am also connected to my Blind Shell Classic phone. I am able to operate the phone, make and receive calls, all at the same time being able to consult my computer via my screenreader. If I need to make notes whilst listening to a call this is straightforward .

In the past this would be a struggle for me. For example I used to do Internet grocery shopping for my Mother in law, in her 90s. This involved me ringing her but also having to navigate the Sainsburys Web site on my PC. On several occasions I resorted to wearing 2 paris of headphones, one on top the other to try and complete this tricky process.

I would also have found these headphones an invaluable aid in work. In those days I relied on memory, clattering down notes immediately after the call.

More expensive phone and mixing devices were available , I remember using such a device at the RNIB but these headpones are a far easier, cheaper option.

 

I am, in summary, not sure what there is not to like. These are not a blue tooth option which is a plus for me because of issues i can describe another day.

Details from the Amazon Website below, and finally a link  to the UK Amazon below that.

David Griffith

 

OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver

Large, 50 millimeter speaker unit drivers combined with neodymium magnets provides stereo Hi-Fi level sound; powerful bass, clear vocal, and crisp high tones form perfect balanced sound.

• A standard-sized 3.5mm plug aux cable with mic are included (make it a headphone with mic. A long, DJ-style 9.8ft cord with 6.35 plug easily reaches from the TV or stereo to your sofa. They both are completely detachable, so that you don't need to spend all hours of the day plugged into your mixer.

• 90° swiveling earcups for single-ear monitoring anytime; self-adjustable and flexible headband delivers a fatigue-free listening experience that can last for hours, perfect for mastering and mixing.

• Luxuriously padded ear cushions are specifically designed for monitor headphones maximum comfort and noise isolation. The headband is adjustable and stretchable for you to find the desired angle you like to fit in.

• With the sleek design and high-end sound quality, OneOdio headphones are made for smart phones, all Androids, tablets, mp3 players, and related devices. OneOdio offers 30 days money back, 24-month guarantee and 24 hours friendly after service

 

Link to Amazon page.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/OneOdio-Headphones-Monitoring-Neodymium-Headsets-Standard-Version/dp/B01MZHAX5S

 

I post the below from my blog.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 15 June 2021 16:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

And if you work for a call centre you should talk to your boss regarding a custom solution where you have Jaws on one ear and your phone call on the other. This is definitely possible with wired headsets, probably more difficult with Bluetooth.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

Hank,It sounds like ideally, you want something that would allow you to only use one ear; and what I remember about the Bose is that it would be very difficult to remove the left, or position it so your work headset could be worn.

 

Loudness somewhat depends on your system and the Jaws setting, but if you could use a Bluetooth single ear piece, there are lots of choices from Plantronics.

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 7:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

 

 

Good morning Phillip,

 

I am personally looking for a very loud pair of good earphones so I will be able to hear jaws loud enough in only my right hand side ear, (I have a bit of hearing loss in my right hand side ear), because I will not be able to use my other ear to also hear jaws, because I will need to use my left hand side ear solely to hear properly incoming cusstomer calls and talk to them through a separte one ear headset with a mike at an incoming calls call centre.

 

Can you maybe please tell me if these Bose QC 35 II headphones are quite loud? Any help you can maybe give me with this would be so very much appreciated! Much, much thanks in advance for any help!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kindest regards,

 

Hank

 

 

__ 

 

From: Phillip Gross

Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 8:18 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

It helps to know what you are looking to spend. The options at $50 are a lot different than the $300 options.

I personally use the Bose QC 35 II headphones. I have had them for about 3 years now and use them daily. I would estimate I wear them an average of 8 hours a day including weekends. I use them for work and personal use. They have a Bluetooth option, and I do use it, but most of the time I plug them into my computer or iPad. The battery is supposed to last 20 hours if you’re using Bluetooth and 40 hours if they are plugged into a 3.5 jack and you’re just using noise canceling. The foam began coming out of the ear pieces about a year ago, but I replaced them for about $30.

 

 


Re: Outlook and Replies Issue

Shankar.C
 

Hi,

From the tasks folder, select any messages and click on move to inbox and see what happens.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 6:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook and Replies Issue

 

Hi Curtis,

 

Thank you very much for your reply.  I'll send it on to my friend.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 5:27 PM

Subject: Re: Outlook and Replies Issue

 

How long has this been going, and when did it start? Also, was there any kind of system change or software install which occurred coincident with the problem arising?

 

This kind of problem should be taken up with Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk at 800-936-5900. They seem to be doing a fairly good job these days.

 

With kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 5:52 PM
To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Outlook and Replies Issue

 

Hi All,

 

A friend is running Win10 latest, Outlook 2019 with Jaws2021 latest.  Whenever he sends an email to someone, and they reply, the reply emails go to a folder called,

Task This Computer Only,

whereas, all replies use to go to the In Box.

Does anyone have any ideas of what’s going on here and how to make all replies to his messages go to the In Box like there suppose to? 

All help is greatly appreciated!  Thanks mooy moocho.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

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