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Re: requesting money pay pal

Adrian Spratt
 

I had my first problem getting to the payment field with PayPal a week ago. Using Edge, I eventually managed to get there, though I didn’t remember how. Another lister (I wish I could remember whom) suggested going to the first edit field, then tabbing from there. That way he got to the payment field without a problem. I’ll be trying that next time. It sounds right. I’ve found this very same solution works on another website (WordPress).

 

I haven’t used Firefox in years and hope never to return to it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 10:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: requestin money pay pal

 

Firefox?

 

Okay, then.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: requestin money pay pal

 

i found the same thing.  Apparently, at least at this time, Firefox is the browser of choice when working with JAWS and Paypal.

 

Andy

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Leo

Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 1:38 AM

Subject: Re: requestin money pay pal

 

Hi, I have just recently used paypal and experienced similar problems, what I did was to switch to firefox and I tried again, I discovered that, for my particular case, the web site was more accessible using firefox. I tried it out using jaws 2020 and 2021.

 

Leo
 
“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 11/27/2020 6:51 PM, Justin Williams wrote:


Re: Reading Status Line in Word

Justin Williams
 

Okay, yse, he's right, the pagedown key from the six pack would work too.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 1:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading Status Line in Word

 

You could use the Caps Lock key but use the Page Down key from the “six pack “. I tried this and it does work.

Joe

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 11:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading Status Line in Word

 

Hi, Justin. Her laptop doesn't have a NumPad, so she can't do that.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 5:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading Status Line in Word

 

Try using the caps lokc key and the numpad key 3.

The caps lock key replaces the jaws key.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 8:14 AM
To: JFW Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Reading Status Line in Word

 

In Microsoft Word, JAWS key plus NumPad 3 reads the Status Line. Is there a laptop keyboard layout keystroke for this, or is there a way to assign another key for this in Keyboard Manager for those without a NumPad?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 


Re: requestin money pay pal

Justin Williams
 

Firefox?

 

Okay, then.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: requestin money pay pal

 

i found the same thing.  Apparently, at least at this time, Firefox is the browser of choice when working with JAWS and Paypal.

 

Andy

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Leo

Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 1:38 AM

Subject: Re: requestin money pay pal

 

Hi, I have just recently used paypal and experienced similar problems, what I did was to switch to firefox and I tried again, I discovered that, for my particular case, the web site was more accessible using firefox. I tried it out using jaws 2020 and 2021.

 

Leo
 
“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 11/27/2020 6:51 PM, Justin Williams wrote:


Re: Jaws2020 Dropbox Public folder with copyingpublic links

Michael Moore
 

Hi, You can copy drombox links from anywhere in your dropbox folder.

To copy a link to your file,

Find the file you want to copy.

Press your applications key and use your arrow keys until jaws says “Copy Dropbox link.

Press enter. Jaws will let you know that the link of the file is copied to your clipboard.

Next, you can paste the link in email message.

Hope this helps.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 8:31 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws2020 Dropbox Public folder with copyingpublic links

 

Hi All  I have jaws2020  desktop computer window10 and have dropbox !! I have dropbox  foldername public  where I have some zip folder withmicrosoft outlook 2007 word document  where I have it highlight then I press the application key to arrow down it’s say share  arrow down again it sayextracts all  and etc  but I don’t hear it’s say share public links where I can press enter on it to get the public links to press ctrl+ c to copy clipboard  so I can send the public links to a friend email !! Does Dropbox  still use public links or not ? If not then How can I the zip folder oof the file to my friend to extracts the file on her laptop ?

If I’m not mistaken Is it copying public links dropbox  or copying dropbox links? Does anyone know how I can share the zip folder in dropbox to get the links with dropbox to send a friend ?

Addison

 


Jaws2020 Dropbox Public folder with copyingpublic links

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi All  I have jaws2020  desktop computer window10 and have dropbox !! I have dropbox  foldername public  where I have some zip folder withmicrosoft outlook 2007 word document  where I have it highlight then I press the application key to arrow down it’s say share  arrow down again it sayextracts all  and etc  but I don’t hear it’s say share public links where I can press enter on it to get the public links to press ctrl+ c to copy clipboard  so I can send the public links to a friend email !! Does Dropbox  still use public links or not ? If not then How can I the zip folder oof the file to my friend to extracts the file on her laptop ?

If I’m not mistaken Is it copying public links dropbox  or copying dropbox links? Does anyone know how I can share the zip folder in dropbox to get the links with dropbox to send a friend ?

Addison

 


moderated Re: does a link leave a site?

Bill White
 

Hi, Mark. When I try the above, it does read enough to let me know that the link has left the site, however, it does not always read me the entire link. In other words, sometimes the last part of the link is truncated or cut off.

 

I use a different way to get the full URL from a hyperlink.

 

1. In your browser or email, use F7 to find the link.

2. Press Applications key or SHIFT plus F10, and arrow down.

3. In Chrome, you are looking for "Copy Link Location". In Edge you are looking for "Copy Link Address".

4. Press ENTER.

5. The entire URL of the link has been copied to the clipboard.

6. Now you can read it by using INSERT plus SPACE, followed by C (the read clipboard buffer command).

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 1:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: does a link leave a site?

 

In FSCast 191 (mp3, transcripts at heading 2 JAWS Power Tip) this question was answered. Copy and pasted here: 

GLEN:  Time now for today’s Power Tip.  It comes from long-time JAWS scripter Dave Baker, who reminded those of us who should know better that there’s a feature already built into JAWS for knowing what the real address is of a link that you may encounter, either in email or on the web.  This is particularly important if those links point at things that, let’s say, would require you to log in.  And you wouldn’t want to click on it if it really was an imposter because the name of the link doesn’t necessarily represent what it’s really pointing at.  I’m sitting here in Microsoft Outlook now with a piece of mail open that says it’s from the U.S. Social Security Administration.

JAWS VOICE:  To view your most recent statement, please visit link www.socialsecurity.gov/reviewyourstatement.

GLEN:  Now, this link is probably legitimate.  But to make sure, once you have the virtual PC cursor focused on the link itself, press INSERT+F7.

JAWS VOICE:  Links list dialog, links list view, www.socialsecurity.gov/reviewyourstatement.  One of one.

GLEN:  Now, the only reason I said to position on the link is, if there had been more than one link in the email, the links list always positions on the link that’s associated with where you are in the virtual buffer.  So it’s just an easy way to get there quickly.  Now that I’m here, if I press INSERT+PAGE DOWN...

JAWS VOICE:  Https://www.socialsecurity.gov/reviewyourstatement.

GLEN:  So I heard the link, and I am now sure that that really points at Social Security.  But sometimes the links are much longer and much more involved, and it’s hard to make them out just hearing them as one single thing.  So you can turn on the JAWS cursor and get to the bottom of the page and read the link, word or character at a time.  So I’m going to press INSERT+NUM PAD-.  That’s going to route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor and turn it on.

JAWS VOICE:  Route JAWS to PC.

GLEN:  Now I’ll hit PAGE DOWN.  Now I’ll do a “say word.”

JAWS VOICE:  Https:.

GLEN:  And then I can just move on by word.

JAWS VOICE:  //www.socialsecurity.gov/reviewyourstatement.

GLEN:  So an easy way to always know what a link points at and never click on the wrong thing by mistake.  I showed it to you in Outlook.  It works equally well with links on the web.


moderated Re: does a link leave a site?

Bill White
 

Hi, Mark. When I try the above, it does read enough to let me know that the link has left the site, however, it does not always read me the entire link. In other words, sometimes the last part of the link is truncated or cut off.

 

I use a different way to get the full URL from a hyperlink.

 

1. In your browser or email, use F7 to find the link.

2. Press Applications key or SHIFT plus F10, and arrow down.

3. In Chrome, you are looking for "Copy Link Location". In Edge you are looking for "Copy Link Address".

4. Press ENTER.

5. The entire URL of the link has been copied to the clipboard.

6. Now you can read it by using INSERT plus SPACE, followed by C (the read clipboard buffer command).

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 1:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: does a link leave a site?

 

In FSCast 191 (mp3, transcripts at heading 2 JAWS Power Tip) this question was answered. Copy and pasted here: 

GLEN:  Time now for today’s Power Tip.  It comes from long-time JAWS scripter Dave Baker, who reminded those of us who should know better that there’s a feature already built into JAWS for knowing what the real address is of a link that you may encounter, either in email or on the web.  This is particularly important if those links point at things that, let’s say, would require you to log in.  And you wouldn’t want to click on it if it really was an imposter because the name of the link doesn’t necessarily represent what it’s really pointing at.  I’m sitting here in Microsoft Outlook now with a piece of mail open that says it’s from the U.S. Social Security Administration.

JAWS VOICE:  To view your most recent statement, please visit link www.socialsecurity.gov/reviewyourstatement.

GLEN:  Now, this link is probably legitimate.  But to make sure, once you have the virtual PC cursor focused on the link itself, press INSERT+F7.

JAWS VOICE:  Links list dialog, links list view, www.socialsecurity.gov/reviewyourstatement.  One of one.

GLEN:  Now, the only reason I said to position on the link is, if there had been more than one link in the email, the links list always positions on the link that’s associated with where you are in the virtual buffer.  So it’s just an easy way to get there quickly.  Now that I’m here, if I press INSERT+PAGE DOWN...

JAWS VOICE:  Https://www.socialsecurity.gov/reviewyourstatement.

GLEN:  So I heard the link, and I am now sure that that really points at Social Security.  But sometimes the links are much longer and much more involved, and it’s hard to make them out just hearing them as one single thing.  So you can turn on the JAWS cursor and get to the bottom of the page and read the link, word or character at a time.  So I’m going to press INSERT+NUM PAD-.  That’s going to route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor and turn it on.

JAWS VOICE:  Route JAWS to PC.

GLEN:  Now I’ll hit PAGE DOWN.  Now I’ll do a “say word.”

JAWS VOICE:  Https:.

GLEN:  And then I can just move on by word.

JAWS VOICE:  //www.socialsecurity.gov/reviewyourstatement.

GLEN:  So an easy way to always know what a link points at and never click on the wrong thing by mistake.  I showed it to you in Outlook.  It works equally well with links on the web.


Re: Markdown editor with Jaws?

Jason White
 

You could use a text editor such as notepad++, then run Pandoc (see its home page) to convert Markdown files to HTML, PDF, DOCX, and so on. A Windows installer can be downloaded from the above Web site.

On 11/28/20 4:49 PM, ann wrote:
Hi folks,

I'm just learning to write Markdown. I wish I had learned this ages ago. It's amazing, and can even be written on my Orbit 20 Plus braille display, as long as I remember to choose Computer braille.

Does anyone know of a good, preferably free or cheap, Markdown editor that works well with Jaws? Basically, I'd love something that can import a .md file and save it either as .docx, .rtf or even as .html. I love the Writage plug in for Word that will import .md files directly into Word, but it only offers a free trial now.

Thanks,
~Ann






Re: Markdown editor with Jaws?

ann
 

Hi,

I know about Writage. I learned about it from Jonathan's podcast,and it's great. I will probably end up paying to register it, but I thought I'd look for other options before spending the money. Seems like it might be the best option.

~Ann

On 11/28/2020 5:54 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
Jonathan Mosen had a podcast on this very subject a month or two ago.
Check out this link.  Note that at least on this screen it is three lines.
https://mosenatlarge.pinecast.co/episode/a7df8f307d034483/write-beautifully-formatted-documents-anywhere-with-markdown-and-how-does-the-optimise-battery-feature-on-your-iphone-work- At 03:49 PM 11/28/2020, you wrote:
Hi folks,

I'm just learning to write Markdown. I wish I had learned this ages ago. It's amazing, and can even be written on my Orbit 20 Plus braille display, as long as I remember to choose Computer braille.

Does anyone know of a good, preferably free or cheap, Markdown editor that works well with Jaws? Basically, I'd love something that can import a .md file and save it either as .docx, .rtf or even as .html. I love the Writage plug in for Word that will import .md files directly into Word, but it only offers a free trial now.

Thanks,
~Ann




Re: Markdown editor with Jaws?

Ann Byrne
 

Jonathan Mosen had a podcast on this very subject a month or two ago.
Check out this link. Note that at least on this screen it is three lines.

https://mosenatlarge.pinecast.co/episode/a7df8f307d034483/write-beautifully-formatted-documents-anywhere-with-markdown-and-how-does-the-optimise-battery-feature-on-your-iphone-work-

At 03:49 PM 11/28/2020, you wrote:
Hi folks,

I'm just learning to write Markdown. I wish I had learned this ages ago. It's amazing, and can even be written on my Orbit 20 Plus braille display, as long as I remember to choose Computer braille.

Does anyone know of a good, preferably free or cheap, Markdown editor that works well with Jaws? Basically, I'd love something that can import a .md file and save it either as .docx, .rtf or even as .html. I love the Writage plug in for Word that will import .md files directly into Word, but it only offers a free trial now.

Thanks,
~Ann




Markdown editor with Jaws?

ann
 

Hi folks,

I'm just learning to write Markdown. I wish I had learned this ages ago. It's amazing, and can even be written on my Orbit 20 Plus braille display, as long as I remember to choose Computer braille.

Does anyone know of a good, preferably free or cheap, Markdown editor that works well with Jaws? Basically, I'd love something that can import a .md file and save it either as .docx, .rtf or even as .html. I love the Writage plug in for Word that will import .md files directly into Word, but it only offers a free trial now.

Thanks,
~Ann


Re: application settings

Mike B
 


Hi Don,
 
Try, Insert + Q, while in an application.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 10:08 AM
Subject: application settings

I thought I had come accross a key combo to determine what settings file
is loaded for a particular application.  I am running Word 2016 and want
to modify the settings for this application.  I tried modifying the
settings for Word and Word classic and it doesn't seem that the settings
when word is open had changed.






Re: requestin money pay pal

Andy
 


i found the same thing.  Apparently, at least at this time, Firefox is the browser of choice when working with JAWS and Paypal.
 
Andy
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Leo
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 1:38 AM
Subject: Re: requestin money pay pal

Hi, I have just recently used paypal and experienced similar problems, what I did was to switch to firefox and I tried again, I discovered that, for my particular case, the web site was more accessible using firefox. I tried it out using jaws 2020 and 2021.


Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/27/2020 6:51 PM, Justin Williams wrote:


Re: Jaws 2021 and word2016

Don H
 

OK I maybe figured this out. I did have it set to say characters. However under the Word options there is a setting to auto capitalize the first letter in a sentence. If this is checked and you only type one word on a line it says the word when you hit enter. I unchecked auto capitalize and the problem is solved.

On 11/28/2020 1:21 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
When I am in Word and press insert+v to bring up the quick settings.
Then write typ (without the e on the end) and down arrow, to Typing echos, if I set it to characters, it doesn't read the word.
But, if you have characters and words set by mistake, that would give you the feedback you are talking about, assuming you are hearing each letter, then the entire word after you press enter.
I have mine set to just say words, as I don't want to hear each letter, but when I changed it to characters, it only spoke characters.
Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 11:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2021 and word2016
Trying to figure out if this problem is a word setting or jaws setting issue. I will say the issue does not happen when using another screen reader so I assume it is a Jaws issue.
I start word and have a fresh document. If i type a word and hit enter Jaws says the word. Forexample if I type "hello" and press enter jaws says hello. If I type a word on the next line and hit enter it says the word again. How do I stop jaws from saying the word being typed. I have it to only say the characters as I type.
Thanks


Re: Jaws 2021 and word2016

Richard Turner
 

When I am in Word and press insert+v to bring up the quick settings.
Then write typ (without the e on the end) and down arrow, to Typing echos, if I set it to characters, it doesn't read the word.
But, if you have characters and words set by mistake, that would give you the feedback you are talking about, assuming you are hearing each letter, then the entire word after you press enter.
I have mine set to just say words, as I don't want to hear each letter, but when I changed it to characters, it only spoke characters.



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 11:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2021 and word2016

Trying to figure out if this problem is a word setting or jaws setting issue. I will say the issue does not happen when using another screen reader so I assume it is a Jaws issue.
I start word and have a fresh document. If i type a word and hit enter Jaws says the word. Forexample if I type "hello" and press enter jaws says hello. If I type a word on the next line and hit enter it says the word again. How do I stop jaws from saying the word being typed. I have it to only say the characters as I type.
Thanks


Jaws 2021 and word2016

Don H
 

Trying to figure out if this problem is a word setting or jaws setting issue. I will say the issue does not happen when using another screen reader so I assume it is a Jaws issue.
I start word and have a fresh document. If i type a word and hit enter Jaws says the word. Forexample if I type "hello" and press enter jaws says hello. If I type a word on the next line and hit enter it says the word again. How do I stop jaws from saying the word being typed. I have it to only say the characters as I type.
Thanks


Windows Mail and Enhanced Edit

David Griffith
 

Ever since I have installed Jaws 2021 I had an annoyance that unlike Jaws2020 it was impossible to edit and read text properly when constructing an email in Windows Mail.

Following the discussion on this list re Thunderbird I decided to check the enhanced edit settings for Mail to see if that was possibly the issue.

When I looked enhanced edit was turned off.

I checked this and magically Jaws 2021 is now able to read and edit mail whilst I am typing it again. I am typing this with Jaws2021. As I have made no changes or imported any settings for Jaws2021 I am a bit mystified as to why this is not the default.

This is very confusing as I have the opposite setting, I think for Jaws2020 and that was working fine without enhanced edit support though I will check again later.

Still if anybody else has problems with Mail it is worth checking enhanced edit support and toggling it from whatever it is.

So turn if off for Jarte and turn it on for Mail is what I have learnt in the last 48 hours.

 

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Reading Status Line in Word

Joe
 

You could use the Caps Lock key but use the Page Down key from the “six pack “. I tried this and it does work.

Joe

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 11:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading Status Line in Word

 

Hi, Justin. Her laptop doesn't have a NumPad, so she can't do that.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 5:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading Status Line in Word

 

Try using the caps lokc key and the numpad key 3.

The caps lock key replaces the jaws key.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 8:14 AM
To: JFW Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Reading Status Line in Word

 

In Microsoft Word, JAWS key plus NumPad 3 reads the Status Line. Is there a laptop keyboard layout keystroke for this, or is there a way to assign another key for this in Keyboard Manager for those without a NumPad?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 


application settings

Don H
 

I thought I had come accross a key combo to determine what settings file is loaded for a particular application. I am running Word 2016 and want to modify the settings for this application. I tried modifying the settings for Word and Word classic and it doesn't seem that the settings when word is open had changed.


Re: Reading Status Line in Word

Bill White
 

Hi, Justin. Her laptop doesn't have a NumPad, so she can't do that.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 5:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading Status Line in Word

 

Try using the caps lokc key and the numpad key 3.

The caps lock key replaces the jaws key.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 8:14 AM
To: JFW Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Reading Status Line in Word

 

In Microsoft Word, JAWS key plus NumPad 3 reads the Status Line. Is there a laptop keyboard layout keystroke for this, or is there a way to assign another key for this in Keyboard Manager for those without a NumPad?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...