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Re: Color Picker in Word 2016

Mike B
 


Hi Brian,
 
The default color was grey, that's why I've been trying to change it to black.  Unfortunately Jaws isn't navigating the color grid worth a crap.  I went to the Custom tab and I couldn't find any colors using the arrow keys or the touch cursor.
 
I highlighted the, RGB , but I don't recall the numbers Jaws reported.  I will go back into the file tomorrow and try your suggestions to see if I can't get the text back to black.  Right now I've got it set on midnight blue which should be a dark enough color as well.  Thank you very much for these tips.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Color Picker in Word 2016

Mike,

          The default "Auto" color is black.  If you hit ALT+H,FC  [Home Ribbon, Font Color] the first thing you'll hear is, "Automatic, RGB 000," which is black.  Unless you change this, you can count on black being what you're going to get.

           But, if you want to manually set black (which is all zeros for Red, Green, and Blue) then, after hitting the previously noted sequence, hit M (More) which will throw you into the more color picker, then right arrow from the Standard to the Custom tab.  In the Custom Tab, Hit ALT+R [Red], and whatever value is there, change it to zero.  Then follow that with ALT+G [Green] make it zero, ALT+B [Blue] make it zero.  Then OK your way out.  This will set the value to black, with not even the vaguest capability for an automatic change.  But the only time I've seen any change from black with automatic set is if you paste in text that's another color.

            I'm using NVDA but it does read the colors.  If I down arrow after landing on Automatic I land on the first theme color (white) then right arrowing goes across the theme color row.  If you down arrow under a given theme color then it reads out the percentage of "intensity" for lack of a better descriptor of that color, working from a 10%, which is either 10% lighter or darker (announced) and each step darkens/lightens (depending on the theme color).

             If someone wants me to get into Gradients I will, but please don't make me as I can only describe a gradient as moving from dark to light or light to dark for a given color and getting into all the various top to bottom, bottom to top, diagonal (left or right), etc., gradient configurations could take days.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


Re: Need Easiest Way To Do File Search On Windows 10 PC

JM Casey
 

Hey, no problem! What longer commands are those?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Al Sorrentino via groups.io
Sent: February 25, 2021 01:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Easiest Way To Do File Search On Windows 10 PC

 

Hi J M,

 

Thank you for this wonderful and quick tip.  It works GREAT!!!  I was using longer commands to accomplish the same function.

 

Many thanks,

 

Al Sorrentino

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 1:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Easiest Way To Do File Search On Windows 10 PC

 

Hey guys.

My usual method, rather than searching from the “start search” box, is to go into the drive or folder I know the file is located, hit f3 (which really just moves my cursor two tab positions back from the list view) and type in the search term. It works flawlessly, most of the time, and is really fast at least on my internal drives (both HDD and SSD).

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 25, 2021 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Easiest Way To Do File Search On Windows 10 PC

 

Personally, if you do a lot of searching by file name I'd strongly suggest at some point that you download and install Search Everything from voidtools.com.

But, it's a simple matter to use Windows search as well.  For instance, if you know you want to search only your C: drive and are looking for something that starts with the name "Tom" and has a plain text (txt) file extension, after hitting the Windows Key, or hopping into the search box, enter:

C: Tom*.txt

The drive letter designation is only necessary if you have multiple indexed drives and want to limit the search to one of them.  Otherwise, all indexed drives will be searched.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


Re: Color Picker in Word 2016

 

Mike,

          The default "Auto" color is black.  If you hit ALT+H,FC  [Home Ribbon, Font Color] the first thing you'll hear is, "Automatic, RGB 000," which is black.  Unless you change this, you can count on black being what you're going to get.

           But, if you want to manually set black (which is all zeros for Red, Green, and Blue) then, after hitting the previously noted sequence, hit M (More) which will throw you into the more color picker, then right arrow from the Standard to the Custom tab.  In the Custom Tab, Hit ALT+R [Red], and whatever value is there, change it to zero.  Then follow that with ALT+G [Green] make it zero, ALT+B [Blue] make it zero.  Then OK your way out.  This will set the value to black, with not even the vaguest capability for an automatic change.  But the only time I've seen any change from black with automatic set is if you paste in text that's another color.

            I'm using NVDA but it does read the colors.  If I down arrow after landing on Automatic I land on the first theme color (white) then right arrowing goes across the theme color row.  If you down arrow under a given theme color then it reads out the percentage of "intensity" for lack of a better descriptor of that color, working from a 10%, which is either 10% lighter or darker (announced) and each step darkens/lightens (depending on the theme color).

             If someone wants me to get into Gradients I will, but please don't make me as I can only describe a gradient as moving from dark to light or light to dark for a given color and getting into all the various top to bottom, bottom to top, diagonal (left or right), etc., gradient configurations could take days.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


Color Picker in Word 2016

Mike B
 

Hi All,
 
I updated to Office 2016 Pro and I'm setting up the default, normal.dotm, Word file for the way I want it.  I've pretty much have it done except for the text color!  This color picker is a total pain in the A**!  LOL 
 
I want to set the text color to black but, I can find just about any color except black!  I can't seem to get any colors to be read by Jaws on the Standard or Custom pabs and when activating the More colors button I seem to be back into the same colors loop.
 
Can any of you give me some tips on navigating this damn color picker or, is there some kind of trick for getting to the color black?  All help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks mooy moocho.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


Re: Need Easiest Way To Do File Search On Windows 10 PC

Al Sorrentino
 

Hi J M,

 

Thank you for this wonderful and quick tip.  It works GREAT!!!  I was using longer commands to accomplish the same function.

 

Many thanks,

 

Al Sorrentino

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 1:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Easiest Way To Do File Search On Windows 10 PC

 

Hey guys.

My usual method, rather than searching from the “start search” box, is to go into the drive or folder I know the file is located, hit f3 (which really just moves my cursor two tab positions back from the list view) and type in the search term. It works flawlessly, most of the time, and is really fast at least on my internal drives (both HDD and SSD).

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 25, 2021 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Easiest Way To Do File Search On Windows 10 PC

 

Personally, if you do a lot of searching by file name I'd strongly suggest at some point that you download and install Search Everything from voidtools.com.

But, it's a simple matter to use Windows search as well.  For instance, if you know you want to search only your C: drive and are looking for something that starts with the name "Tom" and has a plain text (txt) file extension, after hitting the Windows Key, or hopping into the search box, enter:

C: Tom*.txt

The drive letter designation is only necessary if you have multiple indexed drives and want to limit the search to one of them.  Otherwise, all indexed drives will be searched.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


Re: Need Easiest Way To Do File Search On Windows 10 PC

JM Casey
 

Hey guys.

My usual method, rather than searching from the “start search” box, is to go into the drive or folder I know the file is located, hit f3 (which really just moves my cursor two tab positions back from the list view) and type in the search term. It works flawlessly, most of the time, and is really fast at least on my internal drives (both HDD and SSD).

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 25, 2021 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Easiest Way To Do File Search On Windows 10 PC

 

Personally, if you do a lot of searching by file name I'd strongly suggest at some point that you download and install Search Everything from voidtools.com.

But, it's a simple matter to use Windows search as well.  For instance, if you know you want to search only your C: drive and are looking for something that starts with the name "Tom" and has a plain text (txt) file extension, after hitting the Windows Key, or hopping into the search box, enter:

C: Tom*.txt

The drive letter designation is only necessary if you have multiple indexed drives and want to limit the search to one of them.  Otherwise, all indexed drives will be searched.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


Phone Clamp: Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

Glenn / Lenny
 

I just looked in my Amazon orders, and I purchased this three years ago and it's 13 dollars.
Here's the link.
 
It is like a bendable wire conduit with a heavy clamp for the table or whatever and a lighter clamp for the phone.
The table clamp part can come loose if it is clamping to a slick surface, and it is extended out all the way, so some duct tape could help keep it in place.
HTH
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

In your conversation, you mentioned a bendable clamps for holding a phone in front of a computer. Where would I look to purchase such a device? Thanks, Michael Baity


Re: Need Easiest Way To Do File Search On Windows 10 PC

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Brian.

 

This helps considerably.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Easiest Way To Do File Search On Windows 10 PC

 

Personally, if you do a lot of searching by file name I'd strongly suggest at some point that you download and install Search Everything from voidtools.com.

But, it's a simple matter to use Windows search as well.  For instance, if you know you want to search only your C: drive and are looking for something that starts with the name "Tom" and has a plain text (txt) file extension, after hitting the Windows Key, or hopping into the search box, enter:

C: Tom*.txt

The drive letter designation is only necessary if you have multiple indexed drives and want to limit the search to one of them.  Otherwise, all indexed drives will be searched.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


Re: Need Easiest Way To Do File Search On Windows 10 PC

 

Personally, if you do a lot of searching by file name I'd strongly suggest at some point that you download and install Search Everything from voidtools.com.

But, it's a simple matter to use Windows search as well.  For instance, if you know you want to search only your C: drive and are looking for something that starts with the name "Tom" and has a plain text (txt) file extension, after hitting the Windows Key, or hopping into the search box, enter:

C: Tom*.txt

The drive letter designation is only necessary if you have multiple indexed drives and want to limit the search to one of them.  Otherwise, all indexed drives will be searched.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


Re: Need Easiest Way To Do File Search On Windows 10 PC

Bill White
 

Hi, Tom. The best way to do a Windows file search is to install Everything from VoidTools. The below link is for the 64-bit versionl.

 

https://www.voidtools.com/Everything-1.4.1.1005.x64-Setup.exe

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 9:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Easiest Way To Do File Search On Windows 10 PC

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I know this sounds elementary, but what is the easiest way to do a file search on a Windows 10 PC?

 

I can locate the drive where I think a file is, but can’t seem to get consistent results when I use either control F or control E and then type in the name of the file I’m looking for.

 

I’m obviously missing something here, so if someone can help re-set my aging brain, I’d appreciate that.

 

Thanks as always!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Need Easiest Way To Do File Search On Windows 10 PC

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

I know this sounds elementary, but what is the easiest way to do a file search on a Windows 10 PC?

 

I can locate the drive where I think a file is, but can’t seem to get consistent results when I use either control F or control E and then type in the name of the file I’m looking for.

 

I’m obviously missing something here, so if someone can help re-set my aging brain, I’d appreciate that.

 

Thanks as always!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: iTunes with Jaws 2021

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

I would download from Apple itself. It seems to work better/you’ll also get the little thing which will make sure your software’s up-to-date with Apple products/product is called Apple Software Update. Just download from Apple.


On Feb 24, 2021, at 6:44 AM, Monica S <mrod16@...> wrote:



Can you tell me which other apps I should uninstall from my computer regarding iTunes before I download the iTunes app from the Microsoft store?  I’ve seen Bonjour on this computer but didn’t know what it was.  I currently don’t have iTunes installed on my computer but had it on a previous one.  Thank you for any assistance.

 

Sincerely,

 

Monica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Udo Egner-Walter via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 10:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Itunes with Jaws 2021

 

Hi John, 

 

You wrote: 

 

I think that was not the correct place to download the itunes

applications, just go to apple.com and download the installer from there and maybe you'd get a better idea.

 

There are two versions of iTunes available. The newest one is the iTunes app you can download from Microsoft Store. You can still download the older one from the Apple homepage, that's right, but this version - at least as far as I know - will not developed further any more. So sooner or later you will be forced to change to the new app 

 

You've probably heard of Windows 10 S, the OS version allowing only installations of apps from Microsoft Store. In this article: 

 

 

you can read that Windows 10 S was leading Apple to develop the Microsoft Store version. By the way, the benefit of using the app from Microsoft Store is a clean install. If you install the old native app you will get services from Apple installed too, for example Bonjour. 

 

Because all of this I tried the Microsoft Store app first. 

 

Best wishes 

Udo 

 

 

 


Re: customizing JAWS announcements

Leo
 

Hi, I believe that what you really want to do is to mute some keys when performing a keystroke.
In order to select what keys should be spoken by Jaws, you can do as follows:
1. Open settings center, and press control plus shift plus d.
2. In the tree view, go to the following location:
keyboard, general, manage key labels, and open this last option by pushing space bar.
3. The manage key lables dialogue will pop up, so you can go through a list of keys using up and down arrows.
4. To taggle between speak and mute, hit space bar.
5. The key label that you are looking for is a bit tricky since you may think that the key is control, but in this list,
The key that will have a real effect on the control key is under the name ModifiedPrintable. So this key label must be muted
If you want Jaws not to speak this key.

Best,
Leo Bado.

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul Auster. "City of Glass"

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: customizing JAWS announcements

Hello,
I have set my JAWS verbosity to intermediate in settings center and I am trying to figure out how to eliminate the announcement of my pressing control n in Outlook or a windows d to get to the desktop.
Is there an option I should check?
Thank you in advance for any responses.


--
Shai Wolman
Wolman technologies
(619)894-6587
Providing training to children and adults that empowers them to be productive and successful with their assistive technology/computing tasks.
atvistech@gmail.com


Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

Glenn / Lenny
 

I'll have to look back to see if I bought mine on Amazon or eBay.
If I can find them, I'll post a link.
I know I found it by doing a web search for bendable phone clamp.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

In your conversation, you mentioned a bendable clamps for holding a phone in front of a computer. Where would I look to purchase such a device? Thanks, Michael Baity


Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

michaelpbaity@...
 

In your conversation, you mentioned a bendable clamps for holding a phone in front of a computer. Where would I look to purchase such a device? Thanks, Michael Baity


customizing JAWS announcements

Shai
 

Hello,
I have set my JAWS verbosity to intermediate in settings center and I
am trying to figure out how to eliminate the announcement of my
pressing control n in Outlook or a windows d to get to the desktop.
Is there an option I should check?
Thank you in advance for any responses.


--
Shai Wolman
Wolman technologies
(619)894-6587
Providing training to children and adults that empowers them to be
productive and successful with their assistive technology/computing
tasks.
atvistech@gmail.com


Re: Itunes with Jaws 2021

Udo Egner-Walter
 

Hi Glenn,

you wrote:

How will screenreaders do this?
Will Jaws and NVDA have apps on the Microsoft store?
No one can see into the future and see what's happening. But you shouldn't be fearful about this. In different post I could read that Microsoft Store isn't as successful as for example the Apple Store or Google Store. Vendors have to pay money to publish their apps in Microsoft Store and not all of them are willing to do this. And even if there's only one App Store to download apps you can be sure the screenreader companies will adapt to this situation. But this is far far away, at least to my opinion.

Further you wrote:

Another good reason to lean more towards Linux.
As far as I know it's hard to deal with Linux as a blind or visually impaired person. I won't say this is impossible but to my opinion you have to restrict yourself in using Linux. Maybe a Mac could be an alternative for you - I know a view people using it or using Windows and a Mac at the same time (me too).

Best wishes
Udo


Re: iTunes with Jaws 2021

Udo Egner-Walter
 

Hi Monica, 

As far as I know Bonjour is a service by Apple. In the web I was reading that Bonjour was made for different devices so they could communicate with each other. And further that not only iTunes is using this service (Quicktime uses this service as well). So if you want to deinstall this service you should ensure that no other application on your computer will use this service. 

How to uninstall iTunes completely you can read here: 


But be careful: On this side you can read: 

Don't uninstall these components in a different order

If you plan to install the Microsoft store app you should know that at this time not all things are fully accessible. At this time personally I thinks there's no need to change to the Microsoft app in a hurry. You can still use the old version as long as you can download it from Apple site. Hopefully Apple will work on more accessibility and you can change later. 

Good luck 
Udo 


Am 24.02.2021 um 13:43 schrieb Monica S <mrod16@...>:

Can you tell me which other apps I should uninstall from my computer regarding iTunes before I download the iTunes app from the Microsoft store?  I’ve seen Bonjour on this computer but didn’t know what it was.  I currently don’t have iTunes installed on my computer but had it on a previous one.  Thank you for any assistance. 
 
Sincerely, 
 
Monica 


Re: JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again

Cynthia Bruce
 

Thanks, Mike, I tried this and no difference. I will try to restart in the morning and then do it again.

 

Cynthia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: February 24, 2021 6:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again

 

Hi Cynthia,

 

This was a supposed fix in the latest February update, see below:

• Resolved an issue where the Avoid Speech Cut Off feature stopped working when using the Sound Cards  option in the JAWS Utilities menu to switch to
another sound device.

Open your Settings Center default all applications

Type, avoid, in the search field and allow a couple of seconds for the results to pop-up.

You should have only 1 result, Avoid speech cutoff when using bluetooth....

Make sure this is checked, and if it's already check, you could try unchecking it to see if anything changes as well.

 

I didn't have any problems with a bluetooth headset but, I did have a problem losing speech all together after this update and checking that checkbox seemed to clear up my loss of speech issue.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 2:17 PM

Subject: JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I have encountered an issue with JAWS and my Bluetooth headphones again, and it seems to have happened right after I installed the February update to JAWS 2021. I am using Windows 10, and Jabra evolve Bluetooth headphones. Before, my issue was that I lost speech when using zoom, but I managed to trouble shoot that problem by changing soundcards when using JAWS. Now, when I turn on my headset, I lose speech everywhere. Does anyone know anything about this? If not, can I uninstall the latest update?

 

Many thanks,

 

Cynthia


Re: JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again

Mike B
 

Hi Cynthia,
 
This was a supposed fix in the latest February update, see below:
• Resolved an issue where the Avoid Speech Cut Off feature stopped working when using the Sound Cards  option in the JAWS Utilities menu to switch to
another sound device.
Open your Settings Center default all applications
Type, avoid, in the search field and allow a couple of seconds for the results to pop-up.
You should have only 1 result, Avoid speech cutoff when using bluetooth....
Make sure this is checked, and if it's already check, you could try unchecking it to see if anything changes as well.
 
I didn't have any problems with a bluetooth headset but, I did have a problem losing speech all together after this update and checking that checkbox seemed to clear up my loss of speech issue.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 2:17 PM
Subject: JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again

Hello Everyone,

 

I have encountered an issue with JAWS and my Bluetooth headphones again, and it seems to have happened right after I installed the February update to JAWS 2021. I am using Windows 10, and Jabra evolve Bluetooth headphones. Before, my issue was that I lost speech when using zoom, but I managed to trouble shoot that problem by changing soundcards when using JAWS. Now, when I turn on my headset, I lose speech everywhere. Does anyone know anything about this? If not, can I uninstall the latest update?

 

Many thanks,

 

Cynthia

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