Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
The possible loss of Webvisum is a bummer, but I'm more curious to see how Jaws keeps up with the spead up cycle of Mozilla product updates. They just put out a new Thunderbird yesterday and Firefox 6 is scheduled for release sometime next month.
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-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:12 AM To: Ken lawrence; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid! Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.
-----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!
sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost
there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.
or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password
inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost
Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost
Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance.
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Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Anthony Hodgetts <hodgeab@...>
Hithis may be a bit off topic but if they cant keep up with Fire Fox I am wondering when and if they will get Windows Live mail more accessible so you know you have new emails outlook express used to say unread message when you came across one you had not opened. Let us see what version 13 brings. We are not the only screen reader to experience this problem it could be a Microsoft issue. Anthony -------------------------------------------------- From: "CrisMunoz54" <crismunoz54@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:22 AM To: "'Douglas Richard Dexheimer'" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Subject: RE: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost The possible loss of Webvisum is a bummer, but I'm more curious to see how Jaws keeps up with the spead up cycle of Mozilla product updates. They just put out a new Thunderbird yesterday and Firefox 6 is scheduled for release sometime next month.
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:12 AM To: Ken lawrence; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid!
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.
-----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!
sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost
there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.
or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password
inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost
Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost
Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance.
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Wonder if you have thisproblem with Windows Live mail and message receipts
Anthony Hodgetts <hodgeab@...>
Hi folks. I am running Windows 7 and Windows Live mail, unsure of the version not 2011 though. When someone sends me a message receipt it no longer says do you want to respond to this message receipt yes or no. I have to hit enter once, then hit enter once again to read the message. Am I missing something by not checking with the Jaws cursor? I hope this can get resolved. Thanks. Anthony -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110701/064fdd91/attachment.html>
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Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.
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-----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you! sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Re: Admin: Alright, e-freaking-nuff.
I am still recieving from the list, please unsubscribe me!
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----- Original Message ----- From: Tim To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:01 AM Subject: Re: Admin: Alright, e-freaking-nuff. My messages are not going through so here is yet another test. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Pilz" <gpilz@verizon.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 10:37 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Alright, e-freaking-nuff. > Please get me off t his list!! > George > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Homuth > To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:23 PM > Subject: Admin: Alright, e-freaking-nuff. > > > Folks, > > The situation that brought about the second migration was beyond my > control. > That said, the migration in question is going to have its issues. > Complaining about those issues on-list, and complaining about the > complainers, is not going to fix those issues any faster. Now. As I learn > of > people having issues, they are being delt with. If I don't know about > your > issue, I can't fix it. Therefore, rather than complain about it on-list, > send myself or Jessica an email privately and we'll have it delt with. > This > is not a competition to see who can fill who's mailbox faster. It stops > here. As of now, if it doesn't come to me personally, I'm going to assume > there's no issue and it won't get looked at. End of story. > > James, > List Admin > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > < http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110630/d0c64397/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > < http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110630/fad2b0a8/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.901 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3735 - Release Date: 06/30/11 01:34:00 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110701/edbb907f/attachment.html>
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Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Shane Davidson <shane@...>
Why should he hand things to you on a silver pladder? Read the from field, or even better, your oln this list, you use jaws, so instead of pressing ctrl+r press shift+JAWSKey+R and then compose your reply. Watch what happens. That's right, the list won't have to seee you wine, the original poster will see it. So, find a message from james, hit that keystroke, compose your message, send, and quit wining on this list. He's specifically asked it, multiple times, and this is getting oold. No wonder most of the blind community is jobless, most of them, want it all handed to them on a silver pladder just like mommy and daddy did for them as children. Sorry people, that's not how the real world works.
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-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:53 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some. Shane, this was a politely stated request based on real problems people are having unsubscribing, as others are having in trying to get back on the list. I have written to James to suggest he provide his direct email address in link form on his posts. Otherwise, it's hard for people who have been away from the list to know how to contact him or Jessica, the other moderator. Your messages on this subject have been immoderate. Please try to be civil out of respect for the rest of us. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane Davidson Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 9:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some. He specifically asked for off list. Please do so. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:00 AM, "Edwin E. Staudt III" <ed@virtualvisiontech.com> wrote: James,
Please unsubscribe me from the list. I apologize for the request, but have made attempts to unsubscribe from the Website several times, receive confirmation, but the action fails to complete.
Thanks for the help and Good Luck going forward.
Ed
Edwin E. Staudt III, Ph.D. VP for Corporate Services virtual vision Technologies www.VirtualVisionTech.com 610. 734-0711 484. 461-8724 FAX National Woman Owned Small Business NWOBC Certification # CMA 4879 SWaM Certification Number: 657637
The Power of Technology & Training for Educating & Employing Disabled Persons Ed@VirtualVisionTech.com
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 6:03 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Folks,
If you were subscribed to this list after the move, it was because your email address was on this list's previous incarnation, most likely over on freelists.org. That list was moved to a new location, which subsequently required a second move when that location became no longer an option. You have the option of unsubscribing, or asking me *off-list* to do so for you. Complaining about being on the list, especially by way of posting messages to that list, does not a solution make.
James, List Admin
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Kahn Sent: July 1, 2011 5:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Many people (including myself) have followed his instructions to unsubscribe (opt-out) but continue to receive all messages. Asking folks to receive an indefinite amount of spam so that others can have continuity of posts seems like a raw deal. Spammer can make a similar rationalization, some people like my posts so screw everyone else.
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 00:40, inthane <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com> wrote:
and if you fracking read his email you would know he has made an offer to folks to fix this, so go find it and read idiot!
and he did this to prevent folks from loosing continuity of posts from the list,
to you it seems to be acting like spam, to most of us its a continuation of
the messages from the list and things are running fine!
inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.**alacorncomputer.com <http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Kahn" <rocky@teampatent.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
James,
Your opt-out unsubscribe process is not working. Instead, please send
out
an email asking who would like to subscribe in future (opt-in), clear
out your subscriber database, and only add back in those who ask to be
added. I'm marking all these emails as spam but because incoming messages come from many different users, even marking them as spam isn't working. Your maillist is acting like a spambot and you're not recognizing the impact you're having on others.
Rocky
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:10, James Homuth <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:
All,
After the emergency shuffle of yesterday/today, we're still
experiencing some DNS related issues with list subscribers. Those issues are beyond
my
control, but are slowly resolving themselves. However, until they do completely, mail may be delayed for some users. I'll appologise in advance, but know I'm keeping an eye on it from here and will update when I know more about when we'll be back to normal.
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keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
douglas richard dexheimer
That keystroke is a shortcut alternative to adding the original sender to one's address book and forwarding a list message to that sender. Thanks Shane.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Davidson" <shane@shaned.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some. Why should he hand things to you on a silver pladder? Read the from field, or even better, your oln this list, you use jaws, so instead of pressing ctrl+r press shift+JAWSKey+R and then compose your reply. Watch what happens. That's right, the list won't have to seee you wine, the original poster will see it. So, find a message from james, hit that keystroke, compose your message, send, and quit wining on this list. He's specifically asked it, multiple times, and this is getting oold. No wonder most of the blind community is jobless, most of them, want it all handed to them on a silver pladder just like mommy and daddy did for them as children. Sorry people, that's not how the real world works.
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:53 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Shane, this was a politely stated request based on real problems people are having unsubscribing, as others are having in trying to get back on the list. I have written to James to suggest he provide his direct email address in link form on his posts. Otherwise, it's hard for people who have been away from the list to know how to contact him or Jessica, the other moderator.
Your messages on this subject have been immoderate. Please try to be civil out of respect for the rest of us. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane Davidson Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 9:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
He specifically asked for off list. Please do so.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:00 AM, "Edwin E. Staudt III" <ed@virtualvisiontech.com> wrote:
James,
Please unsubscribe me from the list. I apologize for the request, but have
made attempts to unsubscribe from the Website several times, receive confirmation, but the action fails to complete.
Thanks for the help and Good Luck going forward.
Ed
Edwin E. Staudt III, Ph.D. VP for Corporate Services virtual vision Technologies www.VirtualVisionTech.com 610. 734-0711 484. 461-8724 FAX National Woman Owned Small Business NWOBC Certification # CMA 4879 SWaM Certification Number: 657637
The Power of Technology & Training for Educating & Employing Disabled Persons Ed@VirtualVisionTech.com
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 6:03 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Folks,
If you were subscribed to this list after the move, it was because your email address was on this list's previous incarnation, most likely over on freelists.org. That list was moved to a new location, which subsequently required a second move when that location became no longer an option. You have the option of unsubscribing, or asking me *off-list* to do so for you.
Complaining about being on the list, especially by way of posting messages to that list, does not a solution make.
James, List Admin
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Kahn Sent: July 1, 2011 5:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Many people (including myself) have followed his instructions to unsubscribe
(opt-out) but continue to receive all messages. Asking folks to receive an
indefinite amount of spam so that others can have continuity of posts seems
like a raw deal. Spammer can make a similar rationalization, some people like my posts so screw everyone else.
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 00:40, inthane <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com> wrote:
and if you fracking read his email you would know he has made an offer to folks to fix this, so go find it and read idiot!
and he did this to prevent folks from loosing continuity of posts from the
list,
to you it seems to be acting like spam, to most of us its a continuation of
the messages from the list and things are running fine!
inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.**alacorncomputer.com <http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Kahn" <rocky@teampatent.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
James,
Your opt-out unsubscribe process is not working. Instead, please send
out
an email asking who would like to subscribe in future (opt-in), clear
out
your subscriber database, and only add back in those who ask to be
added.
I'm marking all these emails as spam but because incoming messages come from many different users, even marking them as spam isn't working. Your maillist is acting like a spambot and you're not recognizing the impact you're having on others.
Rocky
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:10, James Homuth <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:
All,
After the emergency shuffle of yesterday/today, we're still
experiencing
some DNS related issues with list subscribers. Those issues are beyond
my
control, but are slowly resolving themselves. However, until they do completely, mail may be delayed for some users. I'll appologise in advance, but know I'm keeping an eye on it from here and will update when I know more about when we'll be back to normal.
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Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid!
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.
-----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!
sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost
there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.
or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password
inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost
Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost
Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance.
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Re: Alright, e-freaking-nuff.
hey idiot! can't you even read a message, he says right in the message you replied to to contact him OFF! FRACKING! LIST!
he even gave you the Email address, but here it is again since you seem to have problems reading it: james@the-jdh.com a ticked off elf
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----- Original Message ----- From: "George Pilz" <gpilz@verizon.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 7:59 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Alright, e-freaking-nuff. I am still recieving from the list, please unsubscribe me!
----- Original Message ----- From: Tim To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:01 AM Subject: Re: Admin: Alright, e-freaking-nuff.
My messages are not going through so here is yet another test.
Tim
----- Original Message ----- From: "George Pilz" <gpilz@verizon.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 10:37 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Alright, e-freaking-nuff.
> Please get me off t his list!! > George > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Homuth > To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:23 PM > Subject: Admin: Alright, e-freaking-nuff. > > > Folks, > > The situation that brought about the second migration was beyond my > control. > That said, the migration in question is going to have its issues. > Complaining about those issues on-list, and complaining about the > complainers, is not going to fix those issues any faster. Now. As I learn > of > people having issues, they are being delt with. If I don't know about > your > issue, I can't fix it. Therefore, rather than complain about it on-list, > send myself or Jessica an email privately and we'll have it delt with. > This > is not a competition to see who can fill who's mailbox faster. It stops > here. As of now, if it doesn't come to me personally, I'm going to assume > there's no issue and it won't get looked at. End of story. > > James, > List Admin > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110630/d0c64397/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110630/fad2b0a8/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may still bedelayed for some.
No, Douglas. Insert-shift-r is reply to sender. It doesn't add the sender to the address book. At least, it doesn't in my experience, and I've never read anywhere that it's supposed to. This is the one part of his sad message that he got right. However, it doesn't work for many users, as has frequently been reported on this list.
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-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:18 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may still bedelayed for some. That keystroke is a shortcut alternative to adding the original sender to one's address book and forwarding a list message to that sender. Thanks Shane. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Davidson" <shane@shaned.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some. Why should he hand things to you on a silver pladder? Read the from field, or even better, your oln this list, you use jaws, so instead of pressing ctrl+r press shift+JAWSKey+R and then compose your reply. Watch what happens. That's right, the list won't have to seee you wine, the original poster will see it. So, find a message from james, hit that keystroke, compose your message, send, and quit wining on this list. He's specifically asked it, multiple times, and this is getting oold. No wonder most of the blind community is jobless, most of them, want it all handed to them on a silver pladder just like mommy and daddy did for them as children. Sorry people, that's not how the real world works.
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:53 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Shane, this was a politely stated request based on real problems people are having unsubscribing, as others are having in trying to get back on the list. I have written to James to suggest he provide his direct email address in link form on his posts. Otherwise, it's hard for people who have been away from the list to know how to contact him or Jessica, the other moderator.
Your messages on this subject have been immoderate. Please try to be civil out of respect for the rest of us. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane Davidson Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 9:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
He specifically asked for off list. Please do so.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:00 AM, "Edwin E. Staudt III" <ed@virtualvisiontech.com> wrote:
James,
Please unsubscribe me from the list. I apologize for the request, but have
made attempts to unsubscribe from the Website several times, receive confirmation, but the action fails to complete.
Thanks for the help and Good Luck going forward.
Ed
Edwin E. Staudt III, Ph.D. VP for Corporate Services virtual vision Technologies www.VirtualVisionTech.com 610. 734-0711 484. 461-8724 FAX National Woman Owned Small Business NWOBC Certification # CMA 4879 SWaM Certification Number: 657637
The Power of Technology & Training for Educating & Employing Disabled Persons Ed@VirtualVisionTech.com
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 6:03 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Folks,
If you were subscribed to this list after the move, it was because your email address was on this list's previous incarnation, most likely over on freelists.org. That list was moved to a new location, which subsequently required a second move when that location became no longer an option. You have the option of unsubscribing, or asking me *off-list* to do so for you.
Complaining about being on the list, especially by way of posting messages to that list, does not a solution make.
James, List Admin
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Kahn Sent: July 1, 2011 5:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Many people (including myself) have followed his instructions to unsubscribe
(opt-out) but continue to receive all messages. Asking folks to receive an
indefinite amount of spam so that others can have continuity of posts seems
like a raw deal. Spammer can make a similar rationalization, some people like my posts so screw everyone else.
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 00:40, inthane <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com> wrote:
and if you fracking read his email you would know he has made an offer to folks to fix this, so go find it and read idiot!
and he did this to prevent folks from loosing continuity of posts from the
list,
to you it seems to be acting like spam, to most of us its a continuation of
the messages from the list and things are running fine!
inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.**alacorncomputer.com <http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Kahn" <rocky@teampatent.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
James,
Your opt-out unsubscribe process is not working. Instead, please send
out
an email asking who would like to subscribe in future (opt-in), clear
out
your subscriber database, and only add back in those who ask to be
added.
I'm marking all these emails as spam but because incoming messages come from many different users, even marking them as spam isn't working. Your maillist is acting like a spambot and you're not recognizing the impact you're having on others.
Rocky
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:10, James Homuth <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:
All,
After the emergency shuffle of yesterday/today, we're still
experiencing
some DNS related issues with list subscribers. Those issues are beyond
my
control, but are slowly resolving themselves. However, until they do completely, mail may be delayed for some users. I'll appologise in advance, but know I'm keeping an eye on it from here and will update when I know more about when we'll be back to normal.
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Re: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may stillbedelayed for some.
Actually, I think this is a default setting found under the send tab in Outlook Express. That setting is checked on my computer so anyone I respond to is automatically added to my address book.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> To: "'Douglas Richard Dexheimer'" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 7:02 AM Subject: RE: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may stillbedelayed for some. No, Douglas. Insert-shift-r is reply to sender. It doesn't add the sender to the address book. At least, it doesn't in my experience, and I've never read anywhere that it's supposed to. This is the one part of his sad message that he got right. However, it doesn't work for many users, as has frequently been reported on this list. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:18 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may still bedelayed for some.
That keystroke is a shortcut alternative to adding the original sender to one's address book and forwarding a list message to that sender. Thanks Shane.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Davidson" <shane@shaned.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Why should he hand things to you on a silver pladder? Read the from field, or even better, your oln this list, you use jaws, so instead of pressing ctrl+r press shift+JAWSKey+R and then compose your reply. Watch what happens. That's right, the list won't have to seee you wine, the original poster will see it. So, find a message from james, hit that keystroke, compose your message, send, and quit wining on this list. He's specifically asked it, multiple times, and this is getting oold. No wonder most of the blind community is jobless, most of them, want it all handed to them on a silver pladder just like mommy and daddy did for them as children. Sorry people, that's not how the real world works.
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:53 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Shane, this was a politely stated request based on real problems people are having unsubscribing, as others are having in trying to get back on the list. I have written to James to suggest he provide his direct email address in link form on his posts. Otherwise, it's hard for people who have been away from the list to know how to contact him or Jessica, the other moderator.
Your messages on this subject have been immoderate. Please try to be civil out of respect for the rest of us. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane Davidson Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 9:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
He specifically asked for off list. Please do so.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:00 AM, "Edwin E. Staudt III" <ed@virtualvisiontech.com> wrote:
James,
Please unsubscribe me from the list. I apologize for the request, but have
made attempts to unsubscribe from the Website several times, receive confirmation, but the action fails to complete.
Thanks for the help and Good Luck going forward.
Ed
Edwin E. Staudt III, Ph.D. VP for Corporate Services virtual vision Technologies www.VirtualVisionTech.com 610. 734-0711 484. 461-8724 FAX National Woman Owned Small Business NWOBC Certification # CMA 4879 SWaM Certification Number: 657637
The Power of Technology & Training for Educating & Employing Disabled Persons Ed@VirtualVisionTech.com
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 6:03 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Folks,
If you were subscribed to this list after the move, it was because your email address was on this list's previous incarnation, most likely over on freelists.org. That list was moved to a new location, which subsequently required a second move when that location became no longer an option. You have the option of unsubscribing, or asking me *off-list* to do so for you.
Complaining about being on the list, especially by way of posting messages to that list, does not a solution make.
James, List Admin
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Kahn Sent: July 1, 2011 5:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Many people (including myself) have followed his instructions to unsubscribe
(opt-out) but continue to receive all messages. Asking folks to receive an
indefinite amount of spam so that others can have continuity of posts seems
like a raw deal. Spammer can make a similar rationalization, some people like my posts so screw everyone else.
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 00:40, inthane <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com> wrote:
and if you fracking read his email you would know he has made an offer to folks to fix this, so go find it and read idiot!
and he did this to prevent folks from loosing continuity of posts from the
list,
to you it seems to be acting like spam, to most of us its a continuation of
the messages from the list and things are running fine!
inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.**alacorncomputer.com <http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Kahn" <rocky@teampatent.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
James,
Your opt-out unsubscribe process is not working. Instead, please send
out
an email asking who would like to subscribe in future (opt-in), clear
out
your subscriber database, and only add back in those who ask to be
added.
I'm marking all these emails as spam but because incoming messages come from many different users, even marking them as spam isn't working. Your maillist is acting like a spambot and you're not recognizing the impact you're having on others.
Rocky
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:10, James Homuth <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:
All,
After the emergency shuffle of yesterday/today, we're still
experiencing
some DNS related issues with list subscribers. Those issues are beyond
my
control, but are slowly resolving themselves. However, until they do completely, mail may be delayed for some users. I'll appologise in advance, but know I'm keeping an eye on it from here and will update when I know more about when we'll be back to normal.
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Re: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may stillbedelayed for some.
Hi, I do not know if anyone has said yet, but you need to make sure the message that you are replying to sender to is open. What I do is open the message, hit the control key to stop jaws reading, and then use the (insert shift R) key stroke. Hope that helps. All the Very Best, Pat
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> To: "'Douglas Richard Dexheimer'" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:02 AM Subject: RE: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may stillbedelayed for some. No, Douglas. Insert-shift-r is reply to sender. It doesn't add the sender to the address book. At least, it doesn't in my experience, and I've never read anywhere that it's supposed to. This is the one part of his sad message that he got right. However, it doesn't work for many users, as has frequently been reported on this list.
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:18 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may still bedelayed for some.
That keystroke is a shortcut alternative to adding the original sender to one's address book and forwarding a list message to that sender. Thanks Shane.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Davidson" <shane@shaned.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Why should he hand things to you on a silver pladder? Read the from field, or even better, your oln this list, you use jaws, so instead of pressing ctrl+r press shift+JAWSKey+R and then compose your reply. Watch what happens. That's right, the list won't have to seee you wine, the original poster will see it. So, find a message from james, hit that keystroke, compose your message, send, and quit wining on this list. He's specifically asked it, multiple times, and this is getting oold. No wonder most of the blind community is jobless, most of them, want it all handed to them on a silver pladder just like mommy and daddy did for them as children. Sorry people, that's not how the real world works.
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:53 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Shane, this was a politely stated request based on real problems people are having unsubscribing, as others are having in trying to get back on the list. I have written to James to suggest he provide his direct email address in link form on his posts. Otherwise, it's hard for people who have been away from the list to know how to contact him or Jessica, the other moderator.
Your messages on this subject have been immoderate. Please try to be civil out of respect for the rest of us. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane Davidson Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 9:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
He specifically asked for off list. Please do so.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:00 AM, "Edwin E. Staudt III" <ed@virtualvisiontech.com> wrote:
James,
Please unsubscribe me from the list. I apologize for the request, but have
made attempts to unsubscribe from the Website several times, receive confirmation, but the action fails to complete.
Thanks for the help and Good Luck going forward.
Ed
Edwin E. Staudt III, Ph.D. VP for Corporate Services virtual vision Technologies www.VirtualVisionTech.com 610. 734-0711 484. 461-8724 FAX National Woman Owned Small Business NWOBC Certification # CMA 4879 SWaM Certification Number: 657637
The Power of Technology & Training for Educating & Employing Disabled Persons Ed@VirtualVisionTech.com
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 6:03 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Folks,
If you were subscribed to this list after the move, it was because your email address was on this list's previous incarnation, most likely over on freelists.org. That list was moved to a new location, which subsequently required a second move when that location became no longer an option. You have the option of unsubscribing, or asking me *off-list* to do so for you.
Complaining about being on the list, especially by way of posting messages to that list, does not a solution make.
James, List Admin
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Kahn Sent: July 1, 2011 5:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Many people (including myself) have followed his instructions to unsubscribe
(opt-out) but continue to receive all messages. Asking folks to receive an
indefinite amount of spam so that others can have continuity of posts seems
like a raw deal. Spammer can make a similar rationalization, some people like my posts so screw everyone else.
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 00:40, inthane <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com> wrote:
and if you fracking read his email you would know he has made an offer to folks to fix this, so go find it and read idiot!
and he did this to prevent folks from loosing continuity of posts from the
list,
to you it seems to be acting like spam, to most of us its a continuation of
the messages from the list and things are running fine!
inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.**alacorncomputer.com <http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Kahn" <rocky@teampatent.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
James,
Your opt-out unsubscribe process is not working. Instead, please send
out
an email asking who would like to subscribe in future (opt-in), clear
out
your subscriber database, and only add back in those who ask to be
added.
I'm marking all these emails as spam but because incoming messages come from many different users, even marking them as spam isn't working. Your maillist is acting like a spambot and you're not recognizing the impact you're having on others.
Rocky
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:10, James Homuth <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:
All,
After the emergency shuffle of yesterday/today, we're still
experiencing
some DNS related issues with list subscribers. Those issues are beyond
my
control, but are slowly resolving themselves. However, until they do completely, mail may be delayed for some users. I'll appologise in advance, but know I'm keeping an eye on it from here and will update when I know more about when we'll be back to normal.
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Re: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail maystillbedelayed for some.
Correct, it is an OE option. I haven't found its equivalent in Outlook.
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-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:21 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail maystillbedelayed for some. Actually, I think this is a default setting found under the send tab in Outlook Express. That setting is checked on my computer so anyone I respond to is automatically added to my address book. Tim Writer of World News Update. For a free weekly subscription send a blank email to tim@nwiusa.com with the word subscribe in the subject line. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> To: "'Douglas Richard Dexheimer'" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 7:02 AM Subject: RE: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may stillbedelayed for some. No, Douglas. Insert-shift-r is reply to sender. It doesn't add the sender to the address book. At least, it doesn't in my experience, and I've never read anywhere that it's supposed to. This is the one part of his sad message that he got right. However, it doesn't work for many users, as has frequently been reported on this list.
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:18 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may still bedelayed for some.
That keystroke is a shortcut alternative to adding the original sender to one's address book and forwarding a list message to that sender. Thanks Shane.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Davidson" <shane@shaned.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Why should he hand things to you on a silver pladder? Read the from field, or even better, your oln this list, you use jaws, so instead of pressing ctrl+r press shift+JAWSKey+R and then compose your reply. Watch what happens. That's right, the list won't have to seee you wine, the original poster will see it. So, find a message from james, hit that keystroke, compose your message, send, and quit wining on this list. He's specifically asked it, multiple times, and this is getting oold. No wonder most of the blind community is jobless, most of them, want it all handed to them on a silver pladder just like mommy and daddy did for them as children. Sorry people, that's not how the real world works.
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:53 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Shane, this was a politely stated request based on real problems people are having unsubscribing, as others are having in trying to get back on the list. I have written to James to suggest he provide his direct email address in link form on his posts. Otherwise, it's hard for people who have been away from the list to know how to contact him or Jessica, the other moderator.
Your messages on this subject have been immoderate. Please try to be
civil out of respect for the rest of us. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane Davidson Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 9:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
He specifically asked for off list. Please do so.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:00 AM, "Edwin E. Staudt III" <ed@virtualvisiontech.com> wrote:
James,
Please unsubscribe me from the list. I apologize for the request, but have
made attempts to unsubscribe from the Website several times, receive confirmation, but the action fails to complete.
Thanks for the help and Good Luck going forward.
Ed
Edwin E. Staudt III, Ph.D. VP for Corporate Services virtual vision Technologies www.VirtualVisionTech.com 610. 734-0711 484. 461-8724 FAX National Woman Owned Small Business NWOBC Certification # CMA 4879 SWaM Certification Number: 657637
The Power of Technology & Training for Educating & Employing Disabled Persons Ed@VirtualVisionTech.com
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 6:03 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Folks,
If you were subscribed to this list after the move, it was because your email address was on this list's previous incarnation, most likely over on freelists.org. That list was moved to a new location, which subsequently required a second move when that location became no longer an option. You have the option of unsubscribing, or asking me *off-list* to do so for you.
Complaining about being on the list, especially by way of posting messages to that list, does not a solution make.
James, List Admin
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Kahn Sent: July 1, 2011 5:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Many people (including myself) have followed his instructions to unsubscribe
(opt-out) but continue to receive all messages. Asking folks to receive an
indefinite amount of spam so that others can have continuity of posts seems
like a raw deal. Spammer can make a similar rationalization, some people like my posts so screw everyone else.
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 00:40, inthane <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com> wrote:
and if you fracking read his email you would know he has made an offer to folks to fix this, so go find it and read idiot!
and he did this to prevent folks from loosing continuity of posts from the
list,
to you it seems to be acting like spam, to most of us its a continuation of
the messages from the list and things are running fine!
inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.**alacorncomputer.com <http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Kahn" <rocky@teampatent.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
James,
Your opt-out unsubscribe process is not working. Instead, please send
out
an email asking who would like to subscribe in future (opt-in), clear
out
your subscriber database, and only add back in those who ask to be
added.
I'm marking all these emails as spam but because incoming messages come from many different users, even marking them as spam isn't working. Your maillist is acting like a spambot and you're not recognizing the impact you're having on others.
Rocky
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:10, James Homuth <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:
All,
After the emergency shuffle of yesterday/today, we're still
experiencing
some DNS related issues with list subscribers. Those issues are beyond
my
control, but are slowly resolving themselves. However, until they do completely, mail may be delayed for some users. I'll appologise in advance, but know I'm keeping an eye on it from here and will update when I know more about when we'll be back to normal.
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Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
douglas richard dexheimer
Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net
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----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips
elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid!
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.
-----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!
sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost
there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.
or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password
inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost
Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost
Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance.
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Re: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may stillbedelayed for some.
for any who need the information, if the shift control r does not give you a reply addressed to the Email sender there may be two reasons for this, one may well be that the person has his personnel settings for the list set to not give out his address to the general list; the other seems to be a failure of jaws due to who knows what criteria. to take care of this, instead of hitting control shift and R, hit the applications key and enter on properties for the message. with the jaws cursor you can see there should be a return address in the general properties area/tab, you can also "virtualize " the screen and use your regular pc cursor to find, and in fact this is a better way to see it since you can also highlight and copy the return address and then paste it into a new message to send to the person who originally sent the message. if this doesn't work, there is another way but that is a long to do, and I'll hand that one out to folks on a one on one message basis, all this is legal, but some folks do want there address kept as quiet as possible and giving away all my crafty little secrets is no fun! smile HTH, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> To: "'Douglas Richard Dexheimer'" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 5:02 AM Subject: RE: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may stillbedelayed for some. No, Douglas. Insert-shift-r is reply to sender. It doesn't add the sender to the address book. At least, it doesn't in my experience, and I've never read anywhere that it's supposed to. This is the one part of his sad message that he got right. However, it doesn't work for many users, as has frequently been reported on this list.
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:18 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may still bedelayed for some.
That keystroke is a shortcut alternative to adding the original sender to one's address book and forwarding a list message to that sender. Thanks Shane.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Davidson" <shane@shaned.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Why should he hand things to you on a silver pladder? Read the from field, or even better, your oln this list, you use jaws, so instead of pressing ctrl+r press shift+JAWSKey+R and then compose your reply. Watch what happens. That's right, the list won't have to seee you wine, the original poster will see it. So, find a message from james, hit that keystroke, compose your message, send, and quit wining on this list. He's specifically asked it, multiple times, and this is getting oold. No wonder most of the blind community is jobless, most of them, want it all handed to them on a silver pladder just like mommy and daddy did for them as children. Sorry people, that's not how the real world works.
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:53 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Shane, this was a politely stated request based on real problems people are having unsubscribing, as others are having in trying to get back on the list. I have written to James to suggest he provide his direct email address in link form on his posts. Otherwise, it's hard for people who have been away from the list to know how to contact him or Jessica, the other moderator.
Your messages on this subject have been immoderate. Please try to be civil out of respect for the rest of us. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane Davidson Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 9:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
He specifically asked for off list. Please do so.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:00 AM, "Edwin E. Staudt III" <ed@virtualvisiontech.com> wrote:
James,
Please unsubscribe me from the list. I apologize for the request, but have
made attempts to unsubscribe from the Website several times, receive confirmation, but the action fails to complete.
Thanks for the help and Good Luck going forward.
Ed
Edwin E. Staudt III, Ph.D. VP for Corporate Services virtual vision Technologies www.VirtualVisionTech.com 610. 734-0711 484. 461-8724 FAX National Woman Owned Small Business NWOBC Certification # CMA 4879 SWaM Certification Number: 657637
The Power of Technology & Training for Educating & Employing Disabled Persons Ed@VirtualVisionTech.com
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 6:03 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Folks,
If you were subscribed to this list after the move, it was because your email address was on this list's previous incarnation, most likely over on freelists.org. That list was moved to a new location, which subsequently required a second move when that location became no longer an option. You have the option of unsubscribing, or asking me *off-list* to do so for you.
Complaining about being on the list, especially by way of posting messages to that list, does not a solution make.
James, List Admin
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Kahn Sent: July 1, 2011 5:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Many people (including myself) have followed his instructions to unsubscribe
(opt-out) but continue to receive all messages. Asking folks to receive an
indefinite amount of spam so that others can have continuity of posts seems
like a raw deal. Spammer can make a similar rationalization, some people like my posts so screw everyone else.
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 00:40, inthane <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com> wrote:
and if you fracking read his email you would know he has made an offer to folks to fix this, so go find it and read idiot!
and he did this to prevent folks from loosing continuity of posts from the
list,
to you it seems to be acting like spam, to most of us its a continuation of
the messages from the list and things are running fine!
inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.**alacorncomputer.com <http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Kahn" <rocky@teampatent.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
James,
Your opt-out unsubscribe process is not working. Instead, please send
out
an email asking who would like to subscribe in future (opt-in), clear
out
your subscriber database, and only add back in those who ask to be
added.
I'm marking all these emails as spam but because incoming messages come from many different users, even marking them as spam isn't working. Your maillist is acting like a spambot and you're not recognizing the impact you're having on others.
Rocky
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:10, James Homuth <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:
All,
After the emergency shuffle of yesterday/today, we're still
experiencing
some DNS related issues with list subscribers. Those issues are beyond
my
control, but are slowly resolving themselves. However, until they do completely, mail may be delayed for some users. I'll appologise in advance, but know I'm keeping an eye on it from here and will update when I know more about when we'll be back to normal.
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Re: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail maystillbedelayed for some.
You don't mean control-shift-r, I think. You mean JAWS key-shift-r.
The simplest way of getting to the "From" field in both OE and Outlook is by pressing alt and while that is held down, twice quickly the 1 key above the letters.
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-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 9:20 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail maystillbedelayed for some. for any who need the information, if the shift control r does not give you a reply addressed to the Email sender there may be two reasons for this, one may well be that the person has his personnel settings for the list set to not give out his address to the general list; the other seems to be a failure of jaws due to who knows what criteria. to take care of this, instead of hitting control shift and R, hit the applications key and enter on properties for the message. with the jaws cursor you can see there should be a return address in the general properties area/tab, you can also "virtualize " the screen and use your regular pc cursor to find, and in fact this is a better way to see it since you can also highlight and copy the return address and then paste it into a new message to send to the person who originally sent the message. if this doesn't work, there is another way but that is a long to do, and I'll hand that one out to folks on a one on one message basis, all this is legal, but some folks do want there address kept as quiet as possible and giving away all my crafty little secrets is no fun! smile HTH, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> To: "'Douglas Richard Dexheimer'" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 5:02 AM Subject: RE: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may stillbedelayed for some. No, Douglas. Insert-shift-r is reply to sender. It doesn't add the sender to the address book. At least, it doesn't in my experience, and I've never read anywhere that it's supposed to. This is the one part of his sad message that he got right. However, it doesn't work for many users, as has frequently been reported on this list.
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:18 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may still bedelayed for some.
That keystroke is a shortcut alternative to adding the original sender to one's address book and forwarding a list message to that sender. Thanks Shane.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Davidson" <shane@shaned.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Why should he hand things to you on a silver pladder? Read the from field, or even better, your oln this list, you use jaws, so instead of pressing ctrl+r press shift+JAWSKey+R and then compose your reply. Watch what happens. That's right, the list won't have to seee you wine, the original poster will see it. So, find a message from james, hit that keystroke, compose your message, send, and quit wining on this list. He's specifically asked it, multiple times, and this is getting oold. No wonder most of the blind community is jobless, most of them, want it all handed to them on a silver pladder just like mommy and daddy did for them as children. Sorry people, that's not how the real world works.
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:53 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Shane, this was a politely stated request based on real problems people are having unsubscribing, as others are having in trying to get back on the list. I have written to James to suggest he provide his direct email address in link form on his posts. Otherwise, it's hard for people who have been away from the list to know how to contact him or Jessica, the other moderator.
Your messages on this subject have been immoderate. Please try to be civil out of respect for the rest of us. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane Davidson Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 9:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
He specifically asked for off list. Please do so.
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On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:00 AM, "Edwin E. Staudt III" <ed@virtualvisiontech.com> wrote:
James,
Please unsubscribe me from the list. I apologize for the request, but have
made attempts to unsubscribe from the Website several times, receive confirmation, but the action fails to complete.
Thanks for the help and Good Luck going forward.
Ed
Edwin E. Staudt III, Ph.D. VP for Corporate Services virtual vision Technologies www.VirtualVisionTech.com 610. 734-0711 484. 461-8724 FAX National Woman Owned Small Business NWOBC Certification # CMA 4879 SWaM Certification Number: 657637
The Power of Technology & Training for Educating & Employing Disabled Persons Ed@VirtualVisionTech.com
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 6:03 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Folks,
If you were subscribed to this list after the move, it was because your email address was on this list's previous incarnation, most likely over on freelists.org. That list was moved to a new location, which subsequently required a second move when that location became no longer an option. You have the option of unsubscribing, or asking me *off-list* to do so for you.
Complaining about being on the list, especially by way of posting messages to that list, does not a solution make.
James, List Admin
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Kahn Sent: July 1, 2011 5:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Many people (including myself) have followed his instructions to unsubscribe
(opt-out) but continue to receive all messages. Asking folks to receive an
indefinite amount of spam so that others can have continuity of posts seems
like a raw deal. Spammer can make a similar rationalization, some people like my posts so screw everyone else.
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 00:40, inthane <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com> wrote:
and if you fracking read his email you would know he has made an offer to folks to fix this, so go find it and read idiot!
and he did this to prevent folks from loosing continuity of posts from the
list,
to you it seems to be acting like spam, to most of us its a continuation of
the messages from the list and things are running fine!
inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.**alacorncomputer.com <http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Kahn" <rocky@teampatent.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
James,
Your opt-out unsubscribe process is not working. Instead, please send
out
an email asking who would like to subscribe in future (opt-in), clear
out
your subscriber database, and only add back in those who ask to be
added.
I'm marking all these emails as spam but because incoming messages come from many different users, even marking them as spam isn't working. Your maillist is acting like a spambot and you're not recognizing the impact you're having on others.
Rocky
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:10, James Homuth <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:
All,
After the emergency shuffle of yesterday/today, we're still
experiencing
some DNS related issues with list subscribers. Those issues are beyond
my
control, but are slowly resolving themselves. However, until they do completely, mail may be delayed for some users. I'll appologise in advance, but know I'm keeping an eye on it from here and will update when I know more about when we'll be back to normal.
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Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Douglas, unless the moderators tell you otherwise, ignore what you were told here. Yesterday I got myself onto the Webvisum list to ask for more definite answers, but so far without success. I think yesterday's Webvisum thread was based on rumor more than fact.
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-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 9:17 AM To: inthane; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips
elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid!
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.
-----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!
sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost
there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.
or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password
inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost
Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost
Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance.
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-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Roy Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 5:43 PM To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: update for Jaws12 Hello,Friends: Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update? Thanks, Roy Dubriel Please reply. "If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net> To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips
elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid!
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet
from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.
-----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!
sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and
tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings,
or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost
there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.
or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password
inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost
Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW
list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost
Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download
again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password.
Thanks for your assistance.
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Re: keystroke to reply directly to sender
douglas richard dexheimer
Control+shift+r replies to all for any message; control+r replies to the sender of a regular individual personal message; insert+shif+r replies to the original sender of a list message when control+r replies to the whole list. Hope everyone has this straight now.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:48 AM Subject: RE: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mailmaystillbedelayed for some. You don't mean control-shift-r, I think. You mean JAWS key-shift-r.
The simplest way of getting to the "From" field in both OE and Outlook is by pressing alt and while that is held down, twice quickly the 1 key above the letters.
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 9:20 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail maystillbedelayed for some.
for any who need the information, if the shift control r does not give you a reply addressed to the Email sender there may be two reasons for this, one may well be that the person has his personnel settings for the list set to not give out his address to the general list; the other seems to be a failure of jaws due to who knows what criteria.
to take care of this, instead of hitting control shift and R, hit the applications key and enter on properties for the message. with the jaws cursor you can see there should be a return address in the general properties area/tab, you can also "virtualize " the screen and use your regular pc cursor to find, and in fact this is a better way to see it since you can also highlight and copy the return address and then paste it into a new message to send to the person who originally sent the message.
if this doesn't work, there is another way but that is a long to do, and I'll hand that one out to folks on a one on one message basis, all this is legal, but some folks do want there address kept as quiet as possible and giving away all my crafty little secrets is no fun! smile
HTH, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> To: "'Douglas Richard Dexheimer'" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 5:02 AM Subject: RE: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may stillbedelayed for some.
No, Douglas. Insert-shift-r is reply to sender. It doesn't add the sender to the address book. At least, it doesn't in my experience, and I've never read anywhere that it's supposed to. This is the one part of his sad message that he got right. However, it doesn't work for many users, as has frequently been reported on this list.
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:18 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: keystroke to reply directly to senderRe: Admin: Mail may still bedelayed for some.
That keystroke is a shortcut alternative to adding the original sender to one's address book and forwarding a list message to that sender. Thanks Shane.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Davidson" <shane@shaned.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Why should he hand things to you on a silver pladder? Read the from field, or even better, your oln this list, you use jaws, so instead of pressing ctrl+r press shift+JAWSKey+R and then compose your reply. Watch what happens. That's right, the list won't have to seee you wine, the original poster will see it. So, find a message from james, hit that keystroke, compose your message, send, and quit wining on this list. He's specifically asked it, multiple times, and this is getting oold. No wonder most of the blind community is jobless, most of them, want it all handed to them on a silver pladder just like mommy and daddy did for them as children. Sorry people, that's not how the real world works.
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:53 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Shane, this was a politely stated request based on real problems people are having unsubscribing, as others are having in trying to get back on the list. I have written to James to suggest he provide his direct email address in link form on his posts. Otherwise, it's hard for people who have been away from the list to know how to contact him or Jessica, the other moderator.
Your messages on this subject have been immoderate. Please try to be civil out of respect for the rest of us. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane Davidson Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 9:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
He specifically asked for off list. Please do so.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:00 AM, "Edwin E. Staudt III" <ed@virtualvisiontech.com> wrote:
James,
Please unsubscribe me from the list. I apologize for the request, but have
made attempts to unsubscribe from the Website several times, receive confirmation, but the action fails to complete.
Thanks for the help and Good Luck going forward.
Ed
Edwin E. Staudt III, Ph.D. VP for Corporate Services virtual vision Technologies www.VirtualVisionTech.com 610. 734-0711 484. 461-8724 FAX National Woman Owned Small Business NWOBC Certification # CMA 4879 SWaM Certification Number: 657637
The Power of Technology & Training for Educating & Employing Disabled Persons Ed@VirtualVisionTech.com
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 6:03 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Folks,
If you were subscribed to this list after the move, it was because your email address was on this list's previous incarnation, most likely over on freelists.org. That list was moved to a new location, which subsequently required a second move when that location became no longer an option. You have the option of unsubscribing, or asking me *off-list* to do so for you.
Complaining about being on the list, especially by way of posting messages to that list, does not a solution make.
James, List Admin
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Kahn Sent: July 1, 2011 5:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
Many people (including myself) have followed his instructions to unsubscribe
(opt-out) but continue to receive all messages. Asking folks to receive an
indefinite amount of spam so that others can have continuity of posts seems
like a raw deal. Spammer can make a similar rationalization, some people like my posts so screw everyone else.
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 00:40, inthane <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com> wrote:
and if you fracking read his email you would know he has made an offer to folks to fix this, so go find it and read idiot!
and he did this to prevent folks from loosing continuity of posts from the
list,
to you it seems to be acting like spam, to most of us its a continuation of
the messages from the list and things are running fine!
inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.**alacorncomputer.com <http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Kahn" <rocky@teampatent.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.
James,
Your opt-out unsubscribe process is not working. Instead, please send
out
an email asking who would like to subscribe in future (opt-in), clear
out
your subscriber database, and only add back in those who ask to be
added.
I'm marking all these emails as spam but because incoming messages come from many different users, even marking them as spam isn't working. Your maillist is acting like a spambot and you're not recognizing the impact you're having on others.
Rocky
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:10, James Homuth <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:
All,
After the emergency shuffle of yesterday/today, we're still
experiencing
some DNS related issues with list subscribers. Those issues are beyond
my
control, but are slowly resolving themselves. However, until they do completely, mail may be delayed for some users. I'll appologise in advance, but know I'm keeping an eye on it from here and will update when I know more about when we'll be back to normal.
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