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Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

douglas richard dexheimer

#362

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum.  Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: inthane 
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer 
  To: inthane 
  Cc: webvisum-discuss@... 
  Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
  Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


  Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt.  Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password?  Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin?  Thanks.

  Douglas Richard Dexheimer
  Chief of Braille Productions
  Born-Again Productions
  The Friedman Place, Apt.308
  5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
  Chicago, IL 60625
  773-409-6163
  cell 913-244-0612
  drichardd@...
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: inthane 
    To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer 
    Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
    Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


    there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. 

    or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password

    inthane
    . Moderator, Blind Access Help.
    . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
     "own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
    www.alacorncomputer.com
    . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
     for blind computer users and Programmers!
    http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer 
      To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev 
      Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
      Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


      Good morning.  I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now.
      Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond.  If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification?  I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum.  Thanks for your feedback.

      Douglas Richard Dexheimer
      Chief of Braille Productions
      Born-Again Productions
      The Friedman Place, Apt.308
      5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
      Chicago, IL 60625
      773-409-6163
      cell 913-244-0612
      drichardd@...
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer 
      To: webvisum-discuss@... 
      Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
      Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


      Hi all.  Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version.  For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6.  Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it.  Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5.  I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something.  Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
      Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3?  I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin.  I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password.  Thanks for your assistance.

      Douglas Richard Dexheimer
      Chief of Braille Productions
      Born-Again Productions
      The Friedman Place, Apt.308
      5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
      Chicago, IL 60625
      773-409-6163
      cell 913-244-0612
      drichardd@...
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Fw: reactivating the Webvisum pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

douglas richard dexheimer

#363

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer 
To: inthane 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 6:14 AM
Subject: reactivating the Webvisum pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

On Monday I requested an invitation from the Register page, but got no answer, and later I realized I had an email containing my username and password from the last time I got invited (earlier this year), so I'm already registered.  The plugin is already deleted, as noted in earlier messages.
I went to Webvisum and found the link about downloading the plugin, then selected Install, alt+a to allow, but got a message saying "install 4 button unavailable," along with the following:

Software Installation
Install add-ons only from authors whom you trust.
Malicious software can damage your computer or violate your privacy.
You have asked to install the following item:
webvisum-0.8.xpi (Author not verified)
http://www.webvisum.com/plugin/webvisum-0.8.xpi
Install Now Cancel
After hitting Install Now, I hit Restart Firefox and landed in a list of add-ons, but there was no indication that the plugin had installed--no sound indicator, and control+f1 doesn't work in any website.
In the list of add-ons, I found a tab saying "disable button," indicating that the plugin was already enabled, but it didn't seem to work.  I uninstalled Webvisum to make sure I didn't have an older copy of the plugin interfering with the update I was trying to install, then went back to the Download site and tried the procedure again but got the same result.
Might I need a new invitation from a verified author?  The other day I checked the contact page and discovered the email address I sent my original message to--the first message in this thread--but never got a response so far.  
I read somewhere that I needed to verify my account and/or get an activation email before being authorized to use the plugin.  I went to the Register page and entered my name, email, username and password, but found a field to enter an invitation code, which I don't have.  So then I went to the Request Invitation page and submitted a request for an invitation code to activate the plugin again.  I got a thank you and that I would get a response soon, but I don't know how long I'll have to wait.  Perhaps you could send the invite or code to me.
Thanks for your further assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: inthane 
  To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost

  there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. 

  or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password

  inthane
  . Moderator, Blind Access Help.
  . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
   "own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
  www.alacorncomputer.com
  . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
   for blind computer users and Programmers!
  http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer 
    To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev 
    Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
    Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost

    Good morning.  I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now.
    Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond.  If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification?  I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum.  Thanks for your feedback.

    Douglas Richard Dexheimer
    Chief of Braille Productions
    Born-Again Productions
    The Friedman Place, Apt.308
    5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
    Chicago, IL 60625
    773-409-6163
    cell 913-244-0612
    drichardd@...
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer 
    To: webvisum-discuss@... 
    Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
    Subject: Webvisum plugin lost

    Hi all.  Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version.  For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6.  Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it.  Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5.  I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something.  Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
    Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3?  I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin.  I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password.  Thanks for your assistance.

    Douglas Richard Dexheimer
    Chief of Braille Productions
    Born-Again Productions
    The Friedman Place, Apt.308
    5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
    Chicago, IL 60625
    773-409-6163
    cell 913-244-0612
    drichardd@...
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Mail has stabalized, it seems.

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#364

Members;
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Re: Admin: Alright, e-freaking-nuff.

Tim <tim@...>

#365

My messages are not going through so here is yet another test.

Tim

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Pilz" <gpilz@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Alright, e-freaking-nuff.

Please get me off t his list!!
George

 ----- Original Message ----- 
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 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:23 PM
 Subject: Admin: Alright, e-freaking-nuff.

 Folks,

 The situation that brought about the second migration was beyond my control.
 That said, the migration in question is going to have its issues.
 Complaining about those issues on-list, and complaining about the
 complainers, is not going to fix those issues any faster. Now. As I learn of
 people having issues, they are being delt with. If I don't know about your
 issue, I can't fix it. Therefore, rather than complain about it on-list,
 send myself or Jessica an email privately and we'll have it delt with. This
 is not a competition to see who can fill who's mailbox faster. It stops
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Re: Has anyone else been inadvertently unsubscribed?!

Yadiel Sotomayor <yadosotomayor@...>

#377

Yes!

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From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:45 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: Re: Has anyone else been inadvertently unsubscribed?!

I hope this won't bounce again.

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5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@...>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 10:28 PM
Subject: Has anyone else been inadvertently unsubscribed?!


Hi All,

I had not received any email from the list for about 3 days.  Sending
messages to the moderators didn't bring any results & I am just wondering if
others were having the same problems.  Please, understand that I am not
trying to bash the moderators but, just trying to understand how I, &
possibly others, became unsubscribed.  I have sent 2 questions to the list
during this period and received messages back stating that I was being
moderated.  That's what prompted me to write to the moderators.  Anyway, as
stated earlier, I am by no means trying to bash or portray any feelings of
ill will just, wanting to see if anyone else is having problems.  Since
re-subscribing, it seems that things are back in order.  Take care.
Mike
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testing

Shane Davidson <shane@...>

#366

this is a test because something's hozed.
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Re: 12.0.1167

inthane <inthaneelf@...>

#367

blibble blibbawble blubblel blat, I'm not insane, I'm inthane, I'm an elf! mwahahahahahahahahahahaha!

drumnmnmnmnmnmnmnmnmnmnmnmnmnmnmnm

tee hee hee hee!

see it even says so under my name!, is it a full moon yet?
the I
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167


Hi Insane,
That is the version I have on my HP as well.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of inthane
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 4:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: 12.0.1167

as far as I know yes, that was the last j11 version available, its what I am

using now in fact, smile

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Németh Dávid" <gerdave87@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: 12.0.1167


I think 11.0.1476

On 2011.06.30. 18:28, Cy Selfridge wrote:
Insane,
What is the last version of JAWS 11?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of inthane
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:04 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: 12.0.1167

myself I always run two versions a last stable and the new one, so this
way
your double covered.
I'm currently running the last of 11 and the newest 12 myself

laters,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge"<cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'"<jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:59 PM
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167


Hi,
I suppose this is as good a time as any to ask this.
I have a new HP Notebook on the way with W7 64 bit and I will run Office
2007.
Now, were you I would you load the most current version of Jaws 11 or
take
the chance and go for JAWS 12 latest version?
 From all I have seen it sure seems to me that we got ripped off with
12.
Hopefully 13 will finally fix the JAWS 12 problems and not create a
myriad
of new ones.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Adi Kushnir
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

Hi,
It isn't a lot better.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of CrisMunoz54
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:33 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

Off hand, I can't recall a more problematic JFW rollout than version 12
and
all its subsequent updates. The patches to fix this or that issue and
not
to
mention the over all performance issues some of which have somewhat been
addressed, but others are still waiting to get fixed.

I'm downloading the update out of habit, but considering that there's
not
much addressed here, I'm not sure I'm going to bother installing it.
I'll
maybe give it a shot to see if by any chance over all performance is
better
then those other v12 editions from earlier in the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Jim.Denham@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:24 AM
To: Barry.J.Campbell@...; jfw@...
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

I find it very interesting that while one ResearchIt source was fixed in
12.1167, MLB was not. Not sure about other sports providers as I have
not
tested them yet.
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Barry J. Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:19 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

not much in this release as far as I can read.  a fix for research it. a
website fix for rehab for alabama

and a word 2010 fix.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:09 PM
To: Jaws List
Subject: 12.0.1167

Greetings:  Without further comment, I got an automatic update
notification
just now about the subject version of JAWS.
Carry on, Mitch



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Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.

Rocky Kahn <rocky@...>

#368

Many people (including myself) have followed his instructions to unsubscribe
(opt-out) but continue to receive all messages.  Asking folks to receive an
indefinite amount of spam so that others can have continuity of posts seems
like a raw deal.  Spammer can make a similar rationalization, some people
like my posts so screw everyone else.

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 00:40, inthane <inthaneelf@...> wrote:

and if you fracking read his email you would know he has made an offer to
folks to fix this, so go find it and read idiot!

and he did this to prevent folks from loosing continuity of posts from the
list,

to you it seems to be acting like spam, to most of us its a continuation of
the messages from the list and things are running fine!

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.**alacorncomputer.com <http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Kahn" <rocky@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:23 AM

Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.


 James,

Your opt-out unsubscribe process is not working.  Instead, please send out
an email asking who would like to subscribe in future (opt-in), clear out
your subscriber database, and only add back in those who ask to be added.

I'm marking all these emails as spam but because incoming messages come
from
many different users, even marking them as spam isn't working.  Your
maillist is acting like a spambot and you're not recognizing the impact
you're having on others.

Rocky



On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:10, James Homuth <james@...> wrote:

 All,

After the emergency shuffle of yesterday/today, we're still experiencing
some DNS related issues with list subscribers. Those issues are beyond my
control, but are slowly resolving themselves. However, until they do
completely, mail may be delayed for some users. I'll appologise in
advance,
but know I'm keeping an eye on it from here and will update when I know
more
about when we'll be back to normal.

James,
List Admin
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Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.

James Homuth

#369

Folks,

If you were subscribed to this list after the move, it was because your
email address was on this list's previous incarnation, most likely over on
freelists.org. That list was moved to a new location, which subsequently
required a second move when that location became no longer an option. You
have the option of unsubscribing, or asking me *off-list* to do so for you.
Complaining about being on the list, especially by way of posting messages
to that list, does not a solution make.

James,
List Admin

Show quoted text

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Rocky Kahn
Sent: July 1, 2011 5:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.

Many people (including myself) have followed his instructions to unsubscribe
(opt-out) but continue to receive all messages.  Asking folks to receive an
indefinite amount of spam so that others can have continuity of posts seems
like a raw deal.  Spammer can make a similar rationalization, some people
like my posts so screw everyone else.

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 00:40, inthane <inthaneelf@...> wrote:

and if you fracking read his email you would know he has made an offer to
folks to fix this, so go find it and read idiot!

and he did this to prevent folks from loosing continuity of posts from the
list,

to you it seems to be acting like spam, to most of us its a continuationof
the messages from the list and things are running fine!

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.**alacorncomputer.com <http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Kahn" <rocky@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:23 AM

Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.

 James,

Your opt-out unsubscribe process is not working.  Instead, please sendout
an email asking who would like to subscribe in future (opt-in), clear out
your subscriber database, and only add back in those who ask to be added.

I'm marking all these emails as spam but because incoming messages come
from
many different users, even marking them as spam isn't working.  Your
maillist is acting like a spambot and you're not recognizing the impact
you're having on others.

Rocky

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:10, James Homuth <james@...> wrote:

 All,

After the emergency shuffle of yesterday/today, we're still experiencing
some DNS related issues with list subscribers. Those issues are beyondmy
control, but are slowly resolving themselves. However, until they do
completely, mail may be delayed for some users. I'll appologise in
advance,
but know I'm keeping an eye on it from here and will update when I know
more
about when we'll be back to normal.

James,
List Admin
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Re: netflix

Marsha <marcatony@...>

#370

Hi
  As a member of NetFlix, I have had very little problems with the site.  In 
addition, I always have had good responses when I have talked to their 
customer service.  I realize that my experiences may not be the same as 
other people.

Marsha

Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.

Edwin E. Staudt III <ed@...>

#373

James,

Please unsubscribe me from the list.  I apologize for the request, but have
made attempts to unsubscribe from the Website several times, receive
confirmation, but the action fails to complete.

Thanks for the help and Good Luck going forward.

Ed

Edwin E. Staudt III, Ph.D.
VP for Corporate Services
virtual vision Technologies
www.VirtualVisionTech.com
610. 734-0711 
484. 461-8724 FAX
National Woman Owned Small Business
NWOBC Certification # CMA 4879 
SWaM Certification Number: 657637

The Power of Technology & Training for Educating & Employing Disabled
Persons 
Ed@...

Show quoted text

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 6:03 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.

Folks,

If you were subscribed to this list after the move, it was because your
email address was on this list's previous incarnation, most likely over on
freelists.org. That list was moved to a new location, which subsequently
required a second move when that location became no longer an option. You
have the option of unsubscribing, or asking me *off-list* to do so for you.
Complaining about being on the list, especially by way of posting messages
to that list, does not a solution make.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Rocky Kahn
Sent: July 1, 2011 5:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.

Many people (including myself) have followed his instructions to unsubscribe
(opt-out) but continue to receive all messages.  Asking folks to receive an
indefinite amount of spam so that others can have continuity of posts seems
like a raw deal.  Spammer can make a similar rationalization, some people
like my posts so screw everyone else.

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 00:40, inthane <inthaneelf@...> wrote:

and if you fracking read his email you would know he has made an offer to
folks to fix this, so go find it and read idiot!

and he did this to prevent folks from loosing continuity of posts from the
list,

to you it seems to be acting like spam, to most of us its a continuationof
the messages from the list and things are running fine!

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.**alacorncomputer.com <http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Kahn" <rocky@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:23 AM

Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.

 James,

Your opt-out unsubscribe process is not working.  Instead, please sendout
an email asking who would like to subscribe in future (opt-in), clear out
your subscriber database, and only add back in those who ask to be added.

I'm marking all these emails as spam but because incoming messages come
from
many different users, even marking them as spam isn't working.  Your
maillist is acting like a spambot and you're not recognizing the impact
you're having on others.

Rocky

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:10, James Homuth <james@...> wrote:

 All,

After the emergency shuffle of yesterday/today, we're still experiencing
some DNS related issues with list subscribers. Those issues are beyondmy
control, but are slowly resolving themselves. However, until they do
completely, mail may be delayed for some users. I'll appologise in
advance,
but know I'm keeping an eye on it from here and will update when I know
more
about when we'll be back to normal.

James,
List Admin
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Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.

Shane Davidson <shane@...>

#374

He specifically asked for off list. Please do so.

Sent from my iPhone

Show quoted text

On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:00 AM, "Edwin E. Staudt III" <ed@...> wrote:

James,

Please unsubscribe me from the list.  I apologize for the request, but have
made attempts to unsubscribe from the Website several times, receive
confirmation, but the action fails to complete.

Thanks for the help and Good Luck going forward.

Ed

Edwin E. Staudt III, Ph.D.
VP for Corporate Services
virtual vision Technologies
www.VirtualVisionTech.com
610. 734-0711 
484. 461-8724 FAX
National Woman Owned Small Business
NWOBC Certification # CMA 4879 
SWaM Certification Number: 657637

The Power of Technology & Training for Educating & Employing Disabled
Persons 
Ed@...

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 6:03 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.

Folks,

If you were subscribed to this list after the move, it was because your
email address was on this list's previous incarnation, most likely over on
freelists.org. That list was moved to a new location, which subsequently
required a second move when that location became no longer an option. You
have the option of unsubscribing, or asking me *off-list* to do so for you.
Complaining about being on the list, especially by way of posting messages
to that list, does not a solution make.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Rocky Kahn
Sent: July 1, 2011 5:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.

Many people (including myself) have followed his instructions to unsubscribe
(opt-out) but continue to receive all messages.  Asking folks to receive an
indefinite amount of spam so that others can have continuity of posts seems
like a raw deal.  Spammer can make a similar rationalization, some people
like my posts so screw everyone else.

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 00:40, inthane <inthaneelf@...> wrote:

and if you fracking read his email you would know he has made an offer to
folks to fix this, so go find it and read idiot!

and he did this to prevent folks from loosing continuity of posts from the
list,

to you it seems to be acting like spam, to most of us its a continuationof
the messages from the list and things are running fine!

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.**alacorncomputer.com <http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Kahn" <rocky@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:23 AM

Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.


James,

Your opt-out unsubscribe process is not working.  Instead, please sendout
an email asking who would like to subscribe in future (opt-in), clear out
your subscriber database, and only add back in those who ask to be added.

I'm marking all these emails as spam but because incoming messages come
from
many different users, even marking them as spam isn't working.  Your
maillist is acting like a spambot and you're not recognizing the impact
you're having on others.

Rocky



On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:10, James Homuth <james@...> wrote:

All,

After the emergency shuffle of yesterday/today, we're still experiencing
some DNS related issues with list subscribers. Those issues are beyondmy
control, but are slowly resolving themselves. However, until they do
completely, mail may be delayed for some users. I'll appologise in
advance,
but know I'm keeping an eye on it from here and will update when I know
more
about when we'll be back to normal.

James,
List Admin
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Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.

Adrian Spratt

#375

Shane, this was a politely stated request based on real problems people are
having unsubscribing, as others are having in trying to get back on the
list. I have written to James to suggest he provide his direct email address
in link form on his posts. Otherwise, it's hard for people who have been
away from the list to know how to contact him or Jessica, the other
moderator.

Your messages on this subject have been immoderate. Please try to be civil
out of respect for the rest of us.

Show quoted text

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Shane Davidson
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 9:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.

He specifically asked for off list. Please do so.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:00 AM, "Edwin E. Staudt III" <ed@...>
wrote:

James,

Please unsubscribe me from the list.  I apologize for the request, buthave
made attempts to unsubscribe from the Website several times, receive
confirmation, but the action fails to complete.

Thanks for the help and Good Luck going forward.

Ed

Edwin E. Staudt III, Ph.D.
VP for Corporate Services
virtual vision Technologies
www.VirtualVisionTech.com
610. 734-0711 
484. 461-8724 FAX
National Woman Owned Small Business
NWOBC Certification # CMA 4879 
SWaM Certification Number: 657637

The Power of Technology & Training for Educating & Employing Disabled
Persons 
Ed@...

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 6:03 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.

Folks,

If you were subscribed to this list after the move, it was because your
email address was on this list's previous incarnation, most likely over on
freelists.org. That list was moved to a new location, which subsequently
required a second move when that location became no longer an option. You
have the option of unsubscribing, or asking me *off-list* to do so foryou.
Complaining about being on the list, especially by way of posting messages
to that list, does not a solution make.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Rocky Kahn
Sent: July 1, 2011 5:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.

Many people (including myself) have followed his instructions tounsubscribe
(opt-out) but continue to receive all messages.  Asking folks to receivean
indefinite amount of spam so that others can have continuity of postsseems
like a raw deal.  Spammer can make a similar rationalization, some people
like my posts so screw everyone else.

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 00:40, inthane <inthaneelf@...> wrote:

and if you fracking read his email you would know he has made an offer to
folks to fix this, so go find it and read idiot!

and he did this to prevent folks from loosing continuity of posts fromthe
list,

to you it seems to be acting like spam, to most of us its a continuationof
the messages from the list and things are running fine!

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.**alacorncomputer.com <http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Kahn" <rocky@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:23 AM

Subject: Re: Admin: Mail may still be delayed for some.

James,

Your opt-out unsubscribe process is not working.  Instead, please sendout
an email asking who would like to subscribe in future (opt-in), clearout
your subscriber database, and only add back in those who ask to beadded.

I'm marking all these emails as spam but because incoming messages come
from
many different users, even marking them as spam isn't working.  Your
maillist is acting like a spambot and you're not recognizing the impact
you're having on others.

Rocky

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:10, James Homuth <james@...> wrote:

All,

After the emergency shuffle of yesterday/today, we're stillexperiencing
some DNS related issues with list subscribers. Those issues are beyondmy
control, but are slowly resolving themselves. However, until they do
completely, mail may be delayed for some users. I'll appologise in
advance,
but know I'm keeping an eye on it from here and will update when I know
more
about when we'll be back to normal.

James,
List Admin
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JAWS & WebEx

Howard Kramer

#376

I've heard that WebEx is not very JAWS friendly. Does anyone have any info
that would confirm or dispute this?

Thanks,
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Re: JAWS & WebEx

Horan, Jennifer - OASAM ITC <Horan.Jennifer@...>

#378

WebEx is at this time not 508 compliant. The vendor anticipates
releasing a beta version 29 at the end of the summer, but as of my
testing it last Friday, not 508 compliant (testing in IE8 JAWS 12
Windows 7)

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Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:16 AM
To: jfw@...
Subject: JAWS & WebEx

I've heard that WebEx is not very JAWS friendly. Does anyone have any
info
that would confirm or dispute this?

Thanks,
Howard


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Re: JAWS & WebEx

Howard Kramer

#379

Thank you Jennifer.

-Howard

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Horan, Jennifer - OASAM ITC <
Horan.Jennifer@...> wrote:

WebEx is at this time not 508 compliant. The vendor anticipates
releasing a beta version 29 at the end of the summer, but as of my
testing it last Friday, not 508 compliant (testing in IE8 JAWS 12
Windows 7)

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:16 AM
To: jfw@...
Subject: JAWS & WebEx

I've heard that WebEx is not very JAWS friendly. Does anyone have any
info
that would confirm or dispute this?

Thanks,
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Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Gerald Levy

#381

Thank goodness I still have Firefox 3.6, which I will hang onto forever, if that's the only way I can still use Webvisum.  I guess the fine folks at Mozilla really don't give a rat's ass about accessibility.

Gerald

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back.  webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed.  it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months.  the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable.  Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers.  I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum.  Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message ----- 
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
 To: inthane
 Cc: webvisum-discuss@...
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
 Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


 Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt.  Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password?  Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin?  Thanks.

 Douglas Richard Dexheimer
 Chief of Braille Productions
 Born-Again Productions
 The Friedman Place, Apt.308
 5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
 Chicago, IL 60625
 773-409-6163
 cell 913-244-0612
 drichardd@...
   ----- Original Message ----- 
   From: inthane
   To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
   Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
   Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


   there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.

   or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password

   inthane
   . Moderator, Blind Access Help.
   . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
    "own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
   www.alacorncomputer.com
   . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
    for blind computer users and Programmers!
   http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
     ----- Original Message ----- 
     From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
     To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
     Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
     Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


     Good morning.  I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now.
     Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond.  If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification?  I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

     Douglas Richard Dexheimer
     Chief of Braille Productions
     Born-Again Productions
     The Friedman Place, Apt.308
     5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
     Chicago, IL 60625
     773-409-6163
     cell 913-244-0612
     drichardd@...
     ----- Original Message ----- 
     From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
     To: webvisum-discuss@...
     Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
     Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


     Hi all.  Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version.  For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6.  Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5.  I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something.  Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
     Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3?  I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin.  I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance.

     Douglas Richard Dexheimer
     Chief of Braille Productions
     Born-Again Productions
     The Friedman Place, Apt.308
     5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
     Chicago, IL 60625
     773-409-6163
     cell 913-244-0612
     drichardd@...
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Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

douglas richard dexheimer

#382

That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot?  Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid!

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

Show quoted text

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back.  webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed.  it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months.  the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable.  Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers.  I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum.  Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message ----- 
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
 To: inthane
 Cc: webvisum-discuss@...
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
 Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


 Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt.  Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password?  Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin?  Thanks.

 Douglas Richard Dexheimer
 Chief of Braille Productions
 Born-Again Productions
 The Friedman Place, Apt.308
 5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
 Chicago, IL 60625
 773-409-6163
 cell 913-244-0612
 drichardd@...
   ----- Original Message ----- 
   From: inthane
   To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
   Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
   Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


   there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.

   or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password

   inthane
   . Moderator, Blind Access Help.
   . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
    "own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
   www.alacorncomputer.com
   . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
    for blind computer users and Programmers!
   http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
     ----- Original Message ----- 
     From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
     To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
     Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
     Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


     Good morning.  I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now.
     Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond.  If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification?  I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

     Douglas Richard Dexheimer
     Chief of Braille Productions
     Born-Again Productions
     The Friedman Place, Apt.308
     5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
     Chicago, IL 60625
     773-409-6163
     cell 913-244-0612
     drichardd@...
     ----- Original Message ----- 
     From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
     To: webvisum-discuss@...
     Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
     Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


     Hi all.  Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version.  For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6.  Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5.  I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something.  Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
     Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3?  I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin.  I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance.

     Douglas Richard Dexheimer
     Chief of Braille Productions
     Born-Again Productions
     The Friedman Place, Apt.308
     5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
     Chicago, IL 60625
     773-409-6163
     cell 913-244-0612
     drichardd@...
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Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

douglas richard dexheimer

#383

I too still have Firefox 3 but disabled Webvisum trying to install the portable Firefox 5, or changing the install.rdf file for Webvisum, then deleting that file.  Downloading the plugin from the Webvisum site didn't get it working either.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost



Thank goodness I still have Firefox 3.6, which I will hang onto forever, if that's the only way I can still use Webvisum.  I guess the fine folks at Mozilla really don't give a rat's ass about accessibility.

Gerald


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back.  webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed.  it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months.  the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable.  Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers.  I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum.  Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message ----- 
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
 To: inthane
 Cc: webvisum-discuss@...
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
 Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


 Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt.  Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password?  Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin?  Thanks.

 Douglas Richard Dexheimer
 Chief of Braille Productions
 Born-Again Productions
 The Friedman Place, Apt.308
 5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
 Chicago, IL 60625
 773-409-6163
 cell 913-244-0612
 drichardd@...
   ----- Original Message ----- 
   From: inthane
   To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
   Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
   Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


   there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.

   or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password

   inthane
   . Moderator, Blind Access Help.
   . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
    "own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
   www.alacorncomputer.com
   . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
    for blind computer users and Programmers!
   http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
     ----- Original Message ----- 
     From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
     To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
     Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
     Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


     Good morning.  I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now.
     Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond.  If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification?  I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

     Douglas Richard Dexheimer
     Chief of Braille Productions
     Born-Again Productions
     The Friedman Place, Apt.308
     5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
     Chicago, IL 60625
     773-409-6163
     cell 913-244-0612
     drichardd@...
     ----- Original Message ----- 
     From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
     To: webvisum-discuss@...
     Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
     Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


     Hi all.  Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version.  For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6.  Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5.  I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something.  Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
     Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3?  I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin.  I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance.

     Douglas Richard Dexheimer
     Chief of Braille Productions
     Born-Again Productions
     The Friedman Place, Apt.308
     5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
     Chicago, IL 60625
     773-409-6163
     cell 913-244-0612
     drichardd@...
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cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Paul Benson <paul.benson@...>

#384

Hello all,

Then surely a better-than-nothing solution, is for someone to make version 3.6 readily available for all.

Paul Benson.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy - Email Address: bwaylimited@...
Sent On: 01/07/2011 18:05
Sent To: The Jaws for Windows support list. - Email Address: jfw@...
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Thank goodness I still have Firefox 3.6, which I will hang onto forever, if 
that's the only way I can still use Webvisum.  I guess the fine folks at 
Mozilla really don't give a rat's ass about accessibility.

Gerald
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for 
Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost
Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back.  webvisum 
was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed.  it seems mozilla 
has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two 
months.  the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum 
will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for 
them to ever keep up with this new timetable.  Thank you mozilla for 
caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind 
hackers/spammers.  I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have 
it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to 
do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments 
in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum.  Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message ----- 
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind 
geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd 
difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run 
correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and 
tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
 To: inthane
 Cc: webvisum-discuss@...
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
 Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


 Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and 
tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to 
work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" 
prompt.  Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or 
do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password?  Do I 
need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin?  Thanks.

 Douglas Richard Dexheimer
 Chief of Braille Productions
 Born-Again Productions
 The Friedman Place, Apt.308
 5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
 Chicago, IL 60625
 773-409-6163
 cell 913-244-0612
 drichardd@...
   ----- Original Message ----- 
   From: inthane
   To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
   Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
   Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


   there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and 
get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in 
password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically 
sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to 
pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.

   or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I 
remember both my sign in and my password

   inthane
   . Moderator, Blind Access Help.
   . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
    "own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
   www.alacorncomputer.com
   . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
    for blind computer users and Programmers!
   http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
     ----- Original Message ----- 
     From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
     To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
     Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
     Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


     Good morning.  I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW 
list seems to be down right now.
     Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed 
to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond.  If 
I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that 
require verification?  I could try Solona but not sure if that works with 
Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as 
Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

     Douglas Richard Dexheimer
     Chief of Braille Productions
     Born-Again Productions
     The Friedman Place, Apt.308
     5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
     Chicago, IL 60625
     773-409-6163
     cell 913-244-0612
     drichardd@...
     ----- Original Message ----- 
     From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
     To: webvisum-discuss@...
     Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
     Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


     Hi all.  Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to 
the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update 
for that version.  For some time I've been able to use it on my current 
version of Firefox 3.6.  Someone suggested I download a portable version 
of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with 
it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with 
Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number 
from 4 to 5.  I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the 
portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying 
the file wasn't well-formed or something.  Webvisum not only didn't work 
on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, 
and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no 
longer there.
     Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download 
again to Firefox 3?  I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to 
download the plugin.  I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but 
discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. 
Thanks for your assistance.

     Douglas Richard Dexheimer
     Chief of Braille Productions
     Born-Again Productions
     The Friedman Place, Apt.308
     5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
     Chicago, IL 60625
     773-409-6163
     cell 913-244-0612
     drichardd@...
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