-----Original Message-----
From: "Gezim Rexha" <gezim_rexha@hotmail.com>
Sender: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:53:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Reply-To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: update for Jaws12

Hi list,

My 'check for updates' feature is not working, so could somebody please post
the link where I could download the update from?

Regards,
Gezim
-----Original Message-----
From: Marie Lyons
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 10:56 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12

I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it.

Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12

Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No
shouts of joy from list!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Roy
Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: update for Jaws12

Hello,Friends:

Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on

her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update?







Thanks,



Roy Dubriel Please reply.

"If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary
you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com>; "The Jaws for Windows support
list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible
solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also
requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things.
Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take
verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow
to respond. Thanks anyone.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for
Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping
about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips

elf
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>; "The Jaws for Windows
support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require
verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a
real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't
find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't
want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to
their aid!

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for

Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back.
webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it
seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of
firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface
list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since
there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new
timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet

from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up
for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the
real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole
need for capcha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest
developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the
blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some
odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run
correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary
and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane
Cc: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and

tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to
work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button"
prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings,

or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password?
Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request"
and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and
sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could
automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use
revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a
new copy.

or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite
since I remember both my sign in and my password

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW

list seems to be down right now.
Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and
subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow
to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do
with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not
sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and
images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating
to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an
update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my
current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a
portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not
Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for
accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file
and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the
change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an
error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or
something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but
now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the
install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download

again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to
download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation
but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password.

Thanks for your assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 7:54 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: update for Jaws12

Hi list,

My 'check for updates' feature is not working, so could somebody please post
the link where I could download the update from?

Regards,
Gezim
-----Original Message-----
From: Marie Lyons
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 10:56 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12

I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it.

Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12

Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No
shouts of joy from list!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Roy
Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: update for Jaws12

Hello,Friends:

Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on

her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update?







Thanks,



Roy Dubriel Please reply.

"If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary
you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com>; "The Jaws for Windows support
list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible
solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also
requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things.
Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take
verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow
to respond. Thanks anyone.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for
Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping
about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips

elf
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>; "The Jaws for Windows
support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require
verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a
real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't
find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't
want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to
their aid!

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for

Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back.
webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it
seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of
firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface
list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since
there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new
timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet

from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up
for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the
real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole
need for capcha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest
developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the
blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some
odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run
correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary
and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane
Cc: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and

tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to
work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button"
prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings,

or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password?
Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request"
and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and
sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could
automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use
revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a
new copy.

or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite
since I remember both my sign in and my password

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW

list seems to be down right now.
Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and
subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow
to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do
with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not
sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and
images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating
to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an
update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my
current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a
portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not
Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for
accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file
and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the
change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an
error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or
something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but
now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the
install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download

again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to
download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation
but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password.

Thanks for your assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of inthane
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 3:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Wrong list for these types of messages: RE: wrong box

ah, are you a moderator here? I do not think this question is off topic
myself, and no I'm not one here! though sometimes I could wish, of course
there are probably many out here that are glad I'm not as well...

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shane Davidson" <shane@shaned.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 2:28 PM
Subject: Wrong list for these types of messages: RE: wrong box

Please note questions like this are not meant for this list.
It has no baring on jaws for windows. These are basic windows questions
meant for a more general discuss list like blindtech.
Thanks for your time.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Karen Hughes
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 5:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: wrong box

if you did the mistake five strokes ago
just hit control and letter z five times you can go up to ninety nine
times
i believe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: wrong box

control, and letter z undoes the last key strokes you did. karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@zen.co.uk>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 5:16 PM
Subject: wrong box

Hi,sometimes a message meant for list comes into my inbox, not often but
sugar's did,I am not sure why this is., but it was one at Christmas
time

I
think I did not wish to hert her feelings but it was a bit amusing,
incidentally can you remind me of the key strokes to reverse an action
I
know it has a z in it thanks dorothy


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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of inthane
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 12:45 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: update for Jaws12

thank you,

that's just what we were hoping to hear before the really paranoid, I mean
careful ones of us out here let the thing install, smile

take care,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marie Lyons" <mlyons53@verizon.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:56 PM
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12


I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it.

Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12

Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No
shouts of joy from list!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Roy
Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: update for Jaws12

Hello,Friends:

Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on

her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update?







Thanks,



Roy Dubriel Please reply.

"If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary
you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com>; "The Jaws for Windows support
list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible
solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also
requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things.
Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take
verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow
to respond. Thanks anyone.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for
Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping
about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips

elf
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>; "The Jaws for Windows
support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require
verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a
real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't
find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't
want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to
their aid!

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for

Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back.
webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it
seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of
firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface
list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since
there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new
timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet

from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up
for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the
real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole
need for capcha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest
developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the
blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some
odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run
correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary
and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane
Cc: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and

tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to
work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button"
prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings,

or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password?
Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request"
and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and
sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could
automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use
revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a
new copy.

or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite
since I remember both my sign in and my password

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW

list seems to be down right now.
Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and
subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow
to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do
with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not
sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and
images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating
to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an
update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my
current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a
portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not
Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for
accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file
and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the
change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an
error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or
something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but
now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the
install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download

again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to
download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation
but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password.

Thanks for your assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 10:25 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12

Insane,
What is the number for the latest update?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of inthane
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 12:45 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: update for Jaws12

thank you,

that's just what we were hoping to hear before the really paranoid, I mean
careful ones of us out here let the thing install, smile

take care,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marie Lyons" <mlyons53@verizon.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:56 PM
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12


I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it.

Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12

Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No
shouts of joy from list!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Roy
Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: update for Jaws12

Hello,Friends:

Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on

her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update?







Thanks,



Roy Dubriel Please reply.

"If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary
you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com>; "The Jaws for Windows support
list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible
solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also
requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things.
Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take
verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow
to respond. Thanks anyone.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for
Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping
about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips

elf
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>; "The Jaws for Windows
support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require
verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a
real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't
find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't
want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to
their aid!

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for

Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back.
webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it
seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of
firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface
list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since
there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new
timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet

from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up
for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the
real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole
need for capcha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest
developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the
blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some
odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run
correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary
and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane
Cc: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and

tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to
work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button"
prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings,

or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password?
Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request"
and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and
sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could
automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use
revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a
new copy.

or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite
since I remember both my sign in and my password

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW

list seems to be down right now.
Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and
subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow
to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do
with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not
sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and
images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating
to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an
update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my
current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a
portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not
Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for
accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file
and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the
change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an
error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or
something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but
now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the
install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download

again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to
download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation
but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password.

Thanks for your assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of inthane
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 2:45 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: update for Jaws12

thank you,

that's just what we were hoping to hear before the really paranoid, I mean
careful ones of us out here let the thing install, smile

take care,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marie Lyons" <mlyons53@verizon.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:56 PM
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12


I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it.

Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12

Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No
shouts of joy from list!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Roy
Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: update for Jaws12

Hello,Friends:

Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on

her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update?







Thanks,



Roy Dubriel Please reply.

"If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary
you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com>; "The Jaws for Windows support
list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible
solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also
requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things.
Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take
verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow
to respond. Thanks anyone.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for
Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping
about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips

elf
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>; "The Jaws for Windows
support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require
verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a
real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't
find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't
want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to
their aid!

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for

Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back.
webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it
seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of
firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface
list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since
there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new
timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet

from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up
for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the
real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole
need for capcha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest
developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the
blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some
odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run
correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary
and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane
Cc: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and

tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to
work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button"
prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings,

or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password?
Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request"
and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and
sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could
automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use
revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a
new copy.

or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite
since I remember both my sign in and my password

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW

list seems to be down right now.
Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and
subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow
to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do
with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not
sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and
images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating
to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an
update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my
current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a
portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not
Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for
accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file
and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the
change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an
error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or
something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but
now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the
install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download

again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to
download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation
but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password.

Thanks for your assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Loreal Lavigna" <Llavigna2@aol.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 7:54
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12


I have been using it since June 29 when it became available for me. It
works very well for me, and I too have no issues to speak of at this time.
Loreal


Loreal Lavigna
Princess House Lifestyle Consultant
Email: LorealLavigna@myprincesshouse.com
Website: www.princesshouse.com/llavigna

Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518) 330-5188
Email: MedTran12305@aol.com

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of inthane
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 2:45 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: update for Jaws12

thank you,

that's just what we were hoping to hear before the really paranoid, I mean
careful ones of us out here let the thing install, smile

take care,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marie Lyons" <mlyons53@verizon.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:56 PM
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12


I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it.

Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12

Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No
shouts of joy from list!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Roy
Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: update for Jaws12

Hello,Friends:

Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on

her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update?







Thanks,



Roy Dubriel Please reply.

"If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary
you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com>; "The Jaws for Windows support
list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible
solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also
requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things.
Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take
verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow
to respond. Thanks anyone.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for
Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping
about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips

elf
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>; "The Jaws for Windows
support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require
verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a
real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't
find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't
want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to
their aid!

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for

Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back.
webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it
seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of
firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface
list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since
there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new
timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet

from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up
for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the
real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole
need for capcha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest
developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the
blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some
odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run
correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary
and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane
Cc: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and

tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to
work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button"
prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings,

or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password?
Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request"
and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and
sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could
automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use
revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a
new copy.

or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite
since I remember both my sign in and my password

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW

list seems to be down right now.
Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and
subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow
to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do
with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not
sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and
images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating
to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an
update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my
current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a
portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not
Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for
accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file
and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the
change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an
error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or
something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but
now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the
install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download

again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to
download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation
but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password.

Thanks for your assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Sender: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 08:13:07
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Reply-To: Farfar on Laptop <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>,
"The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: update for Jaws12

Do you use Excel?

Dave Carlson
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Loreal Lavigna" <Llavigna2@aol.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 7:54
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12


I have been using it since June 29 when it became available for me. It
works very well for me, and I too have no issues to speak of at this time.
Loreal


Loreal Lavigna
Princess House Lifestyle Consultant
Email: LorealLavigna@myprincesshouse.com
Website: www.princesshouse.com/llavigna

Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518) 330-5188
Email: MedTran12305@aol.com

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of inthane
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 2:45 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: update for Jaws12

thank you,

that's just what we were hoping to hear before the really paranoid, I mean
careful ones of us out here let the thing install, smile

take care,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marie Lyons" <mlyons53@verizon.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:56 PM
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12


I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it.

Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: update for Jaws12

Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No
shouts of joy from list!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Roy
Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: update for Jaws12

Hello,Friends:

Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on

her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update?







Thanks,



Roy Dubriel Please reply.

"If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary
you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com>; "The Jaws for Windows support
list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible
solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also
requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things.
Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take
verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow
to respond. Thanks anyone.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for
Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping
about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips

elf
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>; "The Jaws for Windows
support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require
verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a
real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't
find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't
want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to
their aid!

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@aol.com>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>; "The Jaws for

Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back.
webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it
seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of
firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface
list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since
there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new
timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet

from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up
for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the
real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole
need for capcha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest
developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the
blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some
odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run
correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary
and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane
Cc: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and

tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to
work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button"
prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings,

or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password?
Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request"
and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and
sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could
automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use
revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a
new copy.

or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite
since I remember both my sign in and my password

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW

list seems to be down right now.
Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and
subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow
to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do
with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not
sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and
images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: webvisum-discuss@webvisum.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating
to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an
update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my
current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a
portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not
Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for
accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file
and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the
change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an
error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or
something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but
now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the
install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download

again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to
download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation
but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password.

Thanks for your assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
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----- Original Message -----
From: "andy" <starclip98@windstream.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: Yahoo's New Inbox

I too am having trouble with yahoo and jaws 12.1167 and this has been going on for a long time. I wish jaws could support yahoo better. I tryed the new yahoo mail and it is totally unusable with jaws so i went back to the old mail. The old mail is usable but not perfect. Would any one that has any answers please let me know. I am using jaws 12.1167 with windows XP SP 3.

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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Sushant Bendre
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 3:17 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Twitter

hai any one having the tuterial on tuter site so please send it .

On 7/4/11, Darrell Bowles <dgbowles@msn.com> wrote:

Use quitter. Do a search for it ongoole and it will pop up. it works
well with jaws and the manual is easy to read.
Thanks,
Darrell

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From: "Mark Arnold" <marnold@wadsnet.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 9:12 PM
To: "JFW List" <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Twitter

Hello All,

Time to join the new millennium and learn to use Twitter. Any
suggestions

or tips and tricks? Thanks in advance for any help...

Mark

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On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 9:28 AM
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Subject: Re: Twitter

At 06:17 AM 7/4/2011, you wrote:

hai any one having the tuterial on tuter site so please send it .

Huh? Say what?


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