In jaws 2021,  the new keystroke added to do this is jaws key (insert) plus shift plus 2 from alphanumeric  keyboard. Bear in mind that jaws key plus 2 alone, sets the typing echo level.

Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 12/3/2020 11:20 PM, tom x wrote:

Hi,


My W10 desktop had to have a clean install and so am currently putting everything back but have forgotten some of the commands etc. This is why a couple of questions appear below.


In Jaws 21, is there a command where the level of punctuation can be changed temporarily  and then changed back when the task has been completed?


Are the changes in the power settings still important for the latest Jaws?  If so, can someone post a list of what to do?


Thanks a lot


Tom

On Dec 4, 2020, at 11:11 PM, David Diamond <Daviddiamond2019@...> wrote:



Who is they? We had such a program a few years ago and the CNIB at least in BC were not allowed to do any assessments. I was informed why by a government worker directly involved in determining who got what, but will not mention it on this group.    

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of blind kisses
Sent: December 4, 2020 7:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

David, I don’t know if the assistive devices program is across Canada. It is definitely in Ontario.

Every five years you can get a computer assessment done at the CNIB. 

I get my computer assessment done at the University of Waterloo just because I like them and I’ve been going to them since I was a kid.

Once you get your assessment done, they give you some forms to sign, you send these forms off to the assistive devices program, they return them to you with approval, you buy your computer, you send them the receipt, and they refund you the money.

The program is not as good as it used to be but it still exists.

You are entitled to a computer and jaws every five years.

They can also provide you with a list of assistive devices program vendors. You can take your forms to one of these vendors and they will handle everything for you. Meaning you don’t have to buy anything and wait for a refund. They will take your forms and give you your computer and jaws, and you’re done.

 

 

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God the spirit overshadowed her
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On Dec 4, 2020, at 9:28 PM, David Diamond <Daviddiamond2019@...> wrote:



Keep in mind too, with any agency you have to go through hoops.  I got my JAWS 19 with SMA paid for but, no computer to put it on. The government worker was sure I could get a lap top to put it on as I did not have one.  I was using my sister’s and, she wanted it back.  I was not aware of the 5 year idea and I belong to the CCB in Canada.  When I did talk to Vispero in the U S, as there is no Canadian # she did not inform me of any program. I will have to look into it.  At my age, I’ve seen it happen too often that if you talk to 2 different people you get 2 different answers.  An example is in the U S you can subscribe annually to JAWS, not so in Canada.      

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of blind kisses
Sent: December 4, 2020 5:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

As I told you in my previous message this is the number I called which I provided for you and this is the information they told me. I did call Freedom Scientific in the USA and they confirmed that they do not upgrade or sell no longer to Canadian customers they are the ones who gave me this number. I called this number and this is the information the gentleman gave me.

Also I would like to mention that if you were in Canada you are entitled to jaws every five years through the assistive devices program. In which case you would get a full version of jaws for free if you are eligible.

 

God the father chose her
God the sun dwelt in her
God the spirit overshadowed her
Most holy mother of God save us through your intercessions
Twitter

@FiogkosZoe

 

Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when he's late

 

On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:45 PM, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:



Which dealer did you go through?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of blind kisses
Sent: December 4, 2020 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 



Hi there,

I am also in Canada, and recently had to deal with this issue. You do not have to buy a new version of jaws you can upgrade. It is cheaper to upgrade then to buy the new version. If you are on jaws 18 and want to upgrade to jaws 21 and you bypass the upgrades to jaws 19 and jaws 20 then yes you will have to purchase A whole new version which costs $1030 Canadian. If you want to upgrade you can upgrade to 2019 2020, 2021, and have a license for 2022 to upgrade for $480 Canadian plus taxes if you are not registered with the CNIB. If you’re registered with CNIB you will not have to pay taxes.

You cannot purchase from Freedom Scientific there is a Canadian number. Their telephone number is

 

 1 (800) 665-3005

 

 

 

God the father chose her
God the sun dwelt in her
God the spirit overshadowed her
Most holy mother of God save us through your intercessions
Twitter

@FiogkosZoe

 

Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when he's late

 

On Dec 4, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:

    Hi all,
For anyone who lives in Canada, I'm hoping you can help me. My current licence
is good until version 2018, can I just update my licence, or will I have to buy
a whole new licence and copy of Jaws? Can I buy from Freedom Scientific, or do I
have to buy from a Canadian dealer? I really hope someone can help me, as I've
never done this before. Thanks
Madison

On Dec 4, 2020, at 9:28 PM, David Diamond <Daviddiamond2019@...> wrote:



Keep in mind too, with any agency you have to go through hoops.  I got my JAWS 19 with SMA paid for but, no computer to put it on. The government worker was sure I could get a lap top to put it on as I did not have one.  I was using my sister’s and, she wanted it back.  I was not aware of the 5 year idea and I belong to the CCB in Canada.  When I did talk to Vispero in the U S, as there is no Canadian # she did not inform me of any program. I will have to look into it.  At my age, I’ve seen it happen too often that if you talk to 2 different people you get 2 different answers.  An example is in the U S you can subscribe annually to JAWS, not so in Canada.      

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of blind kisses
Sent: December 4, 2020 5:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

As I told you in my previous message this is the number I called which I provided for you and this is the information they told me. I did call Freedom Scientific in the USA and they confirmed that they do not upgrade or sell no longer to Canadian customers they are the ones who gave me this number. I called this number and this is the information the gentleman gave me.

Also I would like to mention that if you were in Canada you are entitled to jaws every five years through the assistive devices program. In which case you would get a full version of jaws for free if you are eligible.

 

God the father chose her
God the sun dwelt in her
God the spirit overshadowed her
Most holy mother of God save us through your intercessions
Twitter

@FiogkosZoe

 

Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when he's late

 

On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:45 PM, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:



Which dealer did you go through?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of blind kisses
Sent: December 4, 2020 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 



Hi there,

I am also in Canada, and recently had to deal with this issue. You do not have to buy a new version of jaws you can upgrade. It is cheaper to upgrade then to buy the new version. If you are on jaws 18 and want to upgrade to jaws 21 and you bypass the upgrades to jaws 19 and jaws 20 then yes you will have to purchase A whole new version which costs $1030 Canadian. If you want to upgrade you can upgrade to 2019 2020, 2021, and have a license for 2022 to upgrade for $480 Canadian plus taxes if you are not registered with the CNIB. If you’re registered with CNIB you will not have to pay taxes.

You cannot purchase from Freedom Scientific there is a Canadian number. Their telephone number is

 

 1 (800) 665-3005

 

 

 

God the father chose her
God the sun dwelt in her
God the spirit overshadowed her
Most holy mother of God save us through your intercessions
Twitter

@FiogkosZoe

 

Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when he's late

 

On Dec 4, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:

    Hi all,
For anyone who lives in Canada, I'm hoping you can help me. My current licence
is good until version 2018, can I just update my licence, or will I have to buy
a whole new licence and copy of Jaws? Can I buy from Freedom Scientific, or do I
have to buy from a Canadian dealer? I really hope someone can help me, as I've
never done this before. Thanks
Madison

On Dec 4, 2020, at 10:59 PM, David Diamond <Daviddiamond2019@...> wrote:



I think you are a tad off in the price.  Unless I’m missing something, that is 3 upgrades, my S M A cost $165 for the home edition, that would be $495 not including taxes.  Because I’m registered with the CNIB, I did not have to pay taxes. The best scenario would have been buy a SMA late 2018, early 2019 which would have cut down the costs. Because a 2 year S M A as mentioned is $165

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of blind kisses
Sent: December 4, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 



Hi there,

I am also in Canada, and recently had to deal with this issue. You do not have to buy a new version of jaws you can upgrade. It is cheaper to upgrade then to buy the new version. If you are on jaws 18 and want to upgrade to jaws 21 and you bypass the upgrades to jaws 19 and jaws 20 then yes you will have to purchase A whole new version which costs $1030 Canadian. If you want to upgrade you can upgrade to 2019 2020, 2021, and have a license for 2022 to upgrade for $480 Canadian plus taxes if you are not registered with the CNIB. If you’re registered with CNIB you will not have to pay taxes.

You cannot purchase from Freedom Scientific there is a Canadian number. Their telephone number is

 

 1 (800) 665-3005

 

 

 

God the father chose her
God the sun dwelt in her
God the spirit overshadowed her
Most holy mother of God save us through your intercessions
Twitter

@FiogkosZoe

 

Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when he's late

 

On Dec 4, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:

    Hi all,
For anyone who lives in Canada, I'm hoping you can help me. My current licence
is good until version 2018, can I just update my licence, or will I have to buy
a whole new licence and copy of Jaws? Can I buy from Freedom Scientific, or do I
have to buy from a Canadian dealer? I really hope someone can help me, as I've
never done this before. Thanks
Madison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mich Verrier
Sent: December 4, 2020 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

Hi Maddison. You can get a sma that will give you 3 upgrades and I think that
the price is around 100 or 200 canadion you could buy from fs but you would
have to convert that to usd. From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison
Martin
Sent: December 4, 2020 1:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: upgrading Jaws

Hi all,
For anyone who lives in Canada, I'm hoping you can help me. My current
licience is good until version 2018, can I just update my licience, or will I have
to buy a whole new licience and copy of Jaws? Can I buy from Freedom
Scientific, or do I have to buy from a Canadian dealer? I really hope someone
can help me, as I've never done this before. Thanks Madison

On Dec 4, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:

    Hi all,
For anyone who lives in Canada, I'm hoping you can help me. My current licence
is good until version 2018, can I just update my licence, or will I have to buy
a whole new licence and copy of Jaws? Can I buy from Freedom Scientific, or do I
have to buy from a Canadian dealer? I really hope someone can help me, as I've
never done this before. Thanks
Madison

On Dec 4, 2020, at 9:28 PM, David Diamond <Daviddiamond2019@...> wrote:



Keep in mind too, with any agency you have to go through hoops.  I got my JAWS 19 with SMA paid for but, no computer to put it on. The government worker was sure I could get a lap top to put it on as I did not have one.  I was using my sister’s and, she wanted it back.  I was not aware of the 5 year idea and I belong to the CCB in Canada.  When I did talk to Vispero in the U S, as there is no Canadian # she did not inform me of any program. I will have to look into it.  At my age, I’ve seen it happen too often that if you talk to 2 different people you get 2 different answers.  An example is in the U S you can subscribe annually to JAWS, not so in Canada.      

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of blind kisses
Sent: December 4, 2020 5:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

As I told you in my previous message this is the number I called which I provided for you and this is the information they told me. I did call Freedom Scientific in the USA and they confirmed that they do not upgrade or sell no longer to Canadian customers they are the ones who gave me this number. I called this number and this is the information the gentleman gave me.

Also I would like to mention that if you were in Canada you are entitled to jaws every five years through the assistive devices program. In which case you would get a full version of jaws for free if you are eligible.

 

God the father chose her
God the sun dwelt in her
God the spirit overshadowed her
Most holy mother of God save us through your intercessions
Twitter

@FiogkosZoe

 

Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when he's late

 

On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:45 PM, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:



Which dealer did you go through?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of blind kisses
Sent: December 4, 2020 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 



Hi there,

I am also in Canada, and recently had to deal with this issue. You do not have to buy a new version of jaws you can upgrade. It is cheaper to upgrade then to buy the new version. If you are on jaws 18 and want to upgrade to jaws 21 and you bypass the upgrades to jaws 19 and jaws 20 then yes you will have to purchase A whole new version which costs $1030 Canadian. If you want to upgrade you can upgrade to 2019 2020, 2021, and have a license for 2022 to upgrade for $480 Canadian plus taxes if you are not registered with the CNIB. If you’re registered with CNIB you will not have to pay taxes.

You cannot purchase from Freedom Scientific there is a Canadian number. Their telephone number is

 

 1 (800) 665-3005

 

 

 

God the father chose her
God the sun dwelt in her
God the spirit overshadowed her
Most holy mother of God save us through your intercessions
Twitter

@FiogkosZoe

 

Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when he's late

 

On Dec 4, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:

    Hi all,
For anyone who lives in Canada, I'm hoping you can help me. My current licence
is good until version 2018, can I just update my licence, or will I have to buy
a whole new licence and copy of Jaws? Can I buy from Freedom Scientific, or do I
have to buy from a Canadian dealer? I really hope someone can help me, as I've
never done this before. Thanks
Madison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 1:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: upgrading Jaws

Hi all,
For anyone who lives in Canada, I'm hoping you can help me. My current
licience is good until version 2018, can I just update my licience, or will
I have to buy a whole new licience and copy of Jaws? Can I buy from Freedom
Scientific, or do I have to buy from a Canadian dealer? I really hope
someone can help me, as I've never done this before. Thanks Madison

On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:45 PM, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:



Which dealer did you go through?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of blind kisses
Sent: December 4, 2020 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 



Hi there,

I am also in Canada, and recently had to deal with this issue. You do not have to buy a new version of jaws you can upgrade. It is cheaper to upgrade then to buy the new version. If you are on jaws 18 and want to upgrade to jaws 21 and you bypass the upgrades to jaws 19 and jaws 20 then yes you will have to purchase A whole new version which costs $1030 Canadian. If you want to upgrade you can upgrade to 2019 2020, 2021, and have a license for 2022 to upgrade for $480 Canadian plus taxes if you are not registered with the CNIB. If you’re registered with CNIB you will not have to pay taxes.

You cannot purchase from Freedom Scientific there is a Canadian number. Their telephone number is

 

 1 (800) 665-3005

 

 

 

God the father chose her
God the sun dwelt in her
God the spirit overshadowed her
Most holy mother of God save us through your intercessions
Twitter

@FiogkosZoe

 

Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when he's late

 

On Dec 4, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:

    Hi all,
For anyone who lives in Canada, I'm hoping you can help me. My current licence
is good until version 2018, can I just update my licence, or will I have to buy
a whole new licence and copy of Jaws? Can I buy from Freedom Scientific, or do I
have to buy from a Canadian dealer? I really hope someone can help me, as I've
never done this before. Thanks
Madison

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 6:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Adding signature to MS word document

 

A scanned signature is not the same thing as a digital signature.

Just like many organizations will accept, say, a FAX copy of an original document with signature, they'll also accept anything else that produces what looks like the originator's actual signature when printed.  When I submit billing sheets to the Virginia DBVI they all have a scanned copy of my signature inserted on the signature line, in Excel, in that case.

Digital signatures are a thing of their own.
--

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One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide

On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:45 PM, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:



Which dealer did you go through?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of blind kisses
Sent: December 4, 2020 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 



Hi there,

I am also in Canada, and recently had to deal with this issue. You do not have to buy a new version of jaws you can upgrade. It is cheaper to upgrade then to buy the new version. If you are on jaws 18 and want to upgrade to jaws 21 and you bypass the upgrades to jaws 19 and jaws 20 then yes you will have to purchase A whole new version which costs $1030 Canadian. If you want to upgrade you can upgrade to 2019 2020, 2021, and have a license for 2022 to upgrade for $480 Canadian plus taxes if you are not registered with the CNIB. If you’re registered with CNIB you will not have to pay taxes.

You cannot purchase from Freedom Scientific there is a Canadian number. Their telephone number is

 

 1 (800) 665-3005

 

 

 

God the father chose her
God the sun dwelt in her
God the spirit overshadowed her
Most holy mother of God save us through your intercessions
Twitter

@FiogkosZoe

 

Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when he's late

 

On Dec 4, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:

    Hi all,
For anyone who lives in Canada, I'm hoping you can help me. My current licence
is good until version 2018, can I just update my licence, or will I have to buy
a whole new licence and copy of Jaws? Can I buy from Freedom Scientific, or do I
have to buy from a Canadian dealer? I really hope someone can help me, as I've
never done this before. Thanks
Madison

From: steven.fontaine via groups.io
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: buttons announcing to activate press enter in 2020 and later? #advisory #advisory #advisory

 

I was wondering why in the JAWS 2020 and 2021 version the screen reader is announcing "to activate press enter" on buttons. It was spacebar for years and just curious for the change?

From: blind kisses
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 8:36 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: test

 

Hi everyone, I'm trying to reply to someone's message for help on this list

but I'm not seeing my replies coming through on the list.

I sent a test message and still nothing.

Trying a third time but now I clicked on the link at the bottom of the email

wich has the send mail address.

Please let me know if this message has come through.

Regards

Zoe

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of blind kisses
Sent: December 4, 2020 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of blind kisses
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 7:11 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: test

Hi everyone, I'm trying to reply to someone's message for help on this list
but I'm not seeing my replies coming through on the list.
I sent a test message and still nothing.
Trying a third time but now I clicked on the link at the bottom of the email
wich has the send mail address.
Please let me know if this message has come through.
Regards
Zoe

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 06:05 PM, Rick Miller wrote:

I have heard that there are three ways you can get notifications—e-mail, Desktop and Alert. 

-
Rick,

            This is true, but Desktop Notification is one thing, and Alert, in practice, is set on the event itself and can be done via e-mail, or pop-up notification which is presented in the manner appropriate to the device on which it's being done.

            What you are encountering in the main Calendar settings is correct.  You choose one of three things:  Off, Desktop, or Alerts (and I'm not trying to split hairs here, but the choice for Alerts is plural).  My own Google Calendar main setting for notification is Alerts.

             The specific Alert or Alerts you actually get are not done at the Calendar level, but as part of creating or editing an Event.  When you create a New Event, only a few of the many fields/options are shown initially for both ease and speed, and these are:  Title, Date & Time, Add Guests, Add Google Meet Video Conferencing, Add Location, Add Description and attachments, and the actual calendar the event will be created in.  The last is only really relevant if you have access to more than one calendar, which I do, so I am not positive whether it will show to anyone who is using a single calendar.   After those things, at the end of the pop-up dialog for the Event, are two controls:  More Options and Save.   If you wish to add any one of the other possible features to an event, and this would include the sorts of notifications you want, you must activate More Options before these features become visible.

              Now, I will presume you have activated More Options on the Event.  If you set a default notification in Calendar Settings (and we can come back to that later if needed) you will see one notification already present with whatever you set up.  In my case the default notification is "Notification" (which is the pop-up I mentioned earlier) and 30 minutes ahead of the event, followed by an option to delete it.  Immediately following that, is the Add Notification, control, which allows you to add as many additional notifications, whether by Notification or Email, that you want.

               I'll now presume you've activated the Add Notification Control for the event. By the way, all of what follows is also part of that default notification I mentioned, as you can tweak your chosen default if you want or need to.  You are presented with three components:
1. A dropdown that lets you pick Notification or Email.
2. A combo box for a number of units before the event.  You can either type in the number or use the up/down arrows that are part of that control.
3. The "units" dropdown, where you pick minutes, hours, days, or weeks.

So if you want e-mail notifications, you do have to set them up in the event, not at the calendar level.  And since I've never used the Desktop option at the calendar level, I can't describe what happens if it's on.  I have always used Alerts and set up the alerts I need on a given event when I create it.

At one time the event-level notifications settings appeared without the use of the previously mentioned More Options control.  But that changed at least a year and a half to two years back, I can't remember exactly when.  And I still find that change mightily annoying.  I virtually never have need to deal with anything other than the event title, date & time, and calendar selection that's shown on the initial pop-up dialog.  I'd far rather have both the event-level notifications options and repeat options shown on the initial pop-up dialog, and would gladly ditch a couple of the other things like location, attachments/description, guests, and video conferencing options that currently do appear.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss