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Moderated Re: question about importing with Gmail

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 05:27 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
If I do this, will they also show up when I go to contacts from my gmail account in Outlook?
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No.  If you want contacts synchronized between Gmail and the Outlook Address Book you should not even import them in the first place.  Get a contact synchronization program (which you do need since you're not using webmail, and Outlook doesn't directly sync with Gmail) like Go Contact Sync Mod.
 
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Moderated Re: question about importing with Gmail

Madison Martin
 

If I do this, will they also show up when I go to contacts from my gmail account in Outlook?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CathyAnne Murtha
Sent: March 17, 2021 4:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with Gmail

 

You can export your contacts from Outlook and import them into Gmail.

 

To export your contacts:

  1. Open Outlook backstage (ALT-F)
  2. Navigate down to “Open & Export”
  3. Navigate with TAB to the Import/Export button
  4. A small wizard opens through which you can export your Contacts
  5. Follow the wizard screens and export your Contacts to a file with “comma separated values”
  6. Save the file to your computer and note the location, you’ll need it to import the Contacts to Gmail

 

After exporting your contacts, visit Gmail on the web.

  1. Open the JAWS for Windows button list (CTRL-JAWS KEY-B)
  2. Select and activate the “Google Apps” button
  3. Focus is placed on the Google Apps button, press SPACEBAR to open a drop-down list
  4. Select and activate “Contacts”
  5. Open the JAWS for Windows button list
  6. Select and activate “Import”
  7. Focus is placed on the Import button
  8. Press SPACEBAR to activate it

 

The Import dialog opens. Navigate to the “Select file” button and activate it. The Windows open file dialog opens.

 

Navigate the dialog to the Outlook Contacts file. And activate the Open button. Focus returns to the small Import dialog. ‘Activate the “Import” button to import your Outlook Contacts.

 

Close the Contacts tab to return to Gmail.

 

CathyAnne

 

 

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

cathy@...

www.blind.training

(520) 955-6611

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 12:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with gmail

 

I want to import them from my other Outlook account. I’m doing it on the same computer using the gmail website, but I know what I do on there effects/changes my account within Outlook. I’m doing it within settings after I log into my gmail account on the web. My contacts are in Contacts within Outlook.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March 17, 2021 1:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with gmail

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 02:36 PM, Madison Martin wrote:

So there’s no way for me to just ask gmail to just import my contacts?

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Since they are completely separate from e-mail messages, yes, there is.

I do not know where/when you are attempting to do this import, which clouds the issue.  Also, where you're importing them from.

Additional details are needed.
 
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Moderated Re: question about importing with Gmail

CathyAnne Murtha <cathy@...>
 

You can export your contacts from Outlook and import them into Gmail.

 

To export your contacts:

  1. Open Outlook backstage (ALT-F)
  2. Navigate down to “Open & Export”
  3. Navigate with TAB to the Import/Export button
  4. A small wizard opens through which you can export your Contacts
  5. Follow the wizard screens and export your Contacts to a file with “comma separated values”
  6. Save the file to your computer and note the location, you’ll need it to import the Contacts to Gmail

 

After exporting your contacts, visit Gmail on the web.

  1. Open the JAWS for Windows button list (CTRL-JAWS KEY-B)
  2. Select and activate the “Google Apps” button
  3. Focus is placed on the Google Apps button, press SPACEBAR to open a drop-down list
  4. Select and activate “Contacts”
  5. Open the JAWS for Windows button list
  6. Select and activate “Import”
  7. Focus is placed on the Import button
  8. Press SPACEBAR to activate it

 

The Import dialog opens. Navigate to the “Select file” button and activate it. The Windows open file dialog opens.

 

Navigate the dialog to the Outlook Contacts file. And activate the Open button. Focus returns to the small Import dialog. ‘Activate the “Import” button to import your Outlook Contacts.

 

Close the Contacts tab to return to Gmail.

 

CathyAnne

 

 

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

cathy@...

www.blind.training

(520) 955-6611

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 12:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with gmail

 

I want to import them from my other Outlook account. I’m doing it on the same computer using the gmail website, but I know what I do on there effects/changes my account within Outlook. I’m doing it within settings after I log into my gmail account on the web. My contacts are in Contacts within Outlook.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March 17, 2021 1:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with gmail

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 02:36 PM, Madison Martin wrote:

So there’s no way for me to just ask gmail to just import my contacts?

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Since they are completely separate from e-mail messages, yes, there is.

I do not know where/when you are attempting to do this import, which clouds the issue.  Also, where you're importing them from.

Additional details are needed.
 
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Moderated Re: Making the name checkbox in Outlook 2016 the default

CathyAnne Murtha <cathy@...>
 

In the Address Book options, make sure the "Start with Contacts folder" radio button is selected. Address Book options are in the Tools menu.

 

CathyAnne

 

 

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

cathy@...

www.blind.training

(520) 955-6611

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 11:32 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Making the name checkbox in Outlook 2016 the default

 

Hello list,

Using Outlook 2016, how can I make the name checkbox option the default option when opening the address book? It’s always on more columns which I have to change to name if I want to actually get any search results.

Thanks,

 


Moderated Re: Making the name checkbox in Outlook 2016 the default

Bill White
 

I don't know, Cristóbal. When I open my addressbook and begin to do a search, the name only check box is always what is selected by default. Have you tried pressing the ENTER key on the name only check box once it is selected?

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 11:32 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Making the name checkbox in Outlook 2016 the default

 

Hello list,

Using Outlook 2016, how can I make the name checkbox option the default option when opening the address book? It’s always on more columns which I have to change to name if I want to actually get any search results.

Thanks,

 


Moderated Re: question about importing with gmail

Madison Martin
 

I want to import them from my other Outlook account. I’m doing it on the same computer using the gmail website, but I know what I do on there effects/changes my account within Outlook. I’m doing it within settings after I log into my gmail account on the web. My contacts are in Contacts within Outlook.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March 17, 2021 1:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with gmail

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 02:36 PM, Madison Martin wrote:

So there’s no way for me to just ask gmail to just import my contacts?

-
Since they are completely separate from e-mail messages, yes, there is.

I do not know where/when you are attempting to do this import, which clouds the issue.  Also, where you're importing them from.

Additional details are needed.
 
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Moderated Re: question about importing with gmail

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 02:36 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
So there’s no way for me to just ask gmail to just import my contacts?
-
Since they are completely separate from e-mail messages, yes, there is.

I do not know where/when you are attempting to do this import, which clouds the issue.  Also, where you're importing them from.

Additional details are needed.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


Moderated Re: question about importing with gmail

Madison Martin
 

So there’s no way for me to just ask gmail to just import my contacts?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March 17, 2021 1:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with gmail

 

Contacts is completely separate from email messages, presuming you're using the import function in the contacts app.

And what gets imported is either all contacts (most cases) if you're not doing any pre-filtering, or the contents of a contacts file you've exported and tweaked.
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      ~ Clarence Darrow


Moderated Making the name checkbox in Outlook 2016 the default

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

Using Outlook 2016, how can I make the name checkbox option the default option when opening the address book? It’s always on more columns which I have to change to name if I want to actually get any search results.

Thanks,

 


Moderated Re: adding Outlook contacts

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 02:28 PM, John Covici wrote:
I don't think so, this is a separate list as far as I know.
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That would be correct.  While a contact will be included in the recently used autocomplete list if you've recently used them (or even not so recently) there is no automatic creation of a Contact from an e-mail address entered in the To/CC/BCC fields under the typical default setup.  There may be a way to have Outlook prompt you as to whether you might want to create one for a new, unknown address, but if so, I don't know how to turn that on.
 
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      ~ Clarence Darrow


Moderated Re: adding Outlook contacts

John Covici
 

I don't think so, this is a separate list as far as I know.

On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:36:40 -0400,
Mario wrote:

so, if he types the address, will that create a second entry in
the contacts? because that entry for the person already exists.


-------- Original Message --------
From: John Covici [mailto:covici@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 11:56 AM
Subject: adding Outlook contacts
If he types a couple of more letters does that help? The first time
he has to type the complete email address to get it into that list.

On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 10:51:01 -0400,
Mario wrote:

I am thinking there is some setting that would allow him to do
that, that might have been somehow been disabled because all he
gets is a ding sound when he attempts to type CF, as he mentioned
in his example. so, still would appreciate a suggestion or better
yet, the solution.

-------- Original Message --------
From: John Covici [mailto:covici@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 2:58 PM
Subject: adding Outlook contacts
If you just add the contact and send an Email, after that you will be
able to type the first couple of letters, etc. I am not sure you even
have to make the person a contact to do this.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 14:48:48 -0400,
Mario wrote:

regarding , this is what he told me he wants to do:

"I put the email address in the list.
now I am going to send them a email but I don't want to spell the hole name.
I can just put the first to letters of the name or what numbers or letters.
I do this with chris, I am sending her a email. all I punch in cf
(her first and last name initials) and her
email comes up and I do this with a lot of people that I email a lot
I hope that makes sense."

the verbage between the parentheses is my comment because I know
who the Chris he mentioned is. I don't know how what he is asking
can be accomplished. anyone have a clue?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 11:54 AM
Subject: adding Outlook contacts
a friend of mine is using Outlook 2016 with JAWS 2021 on Windows 10, and
wants to know the keystrokes for adding a new contact to his list, and
"also putting a short cut key for the name I am adding".

I don't know what he is talking about in reference to his latter
request. nor do I know the answer to his former request since I don't
use Outlook. would someone please help.








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Moderated Re: question about importing with gmail

 

Contacts is completely separate from email messages, presuming you're using the import function in the contacts app.

And what gets imported is either all contacts (most cases) if you're not doing any pre-filtering, or the contents of a contacts file you've exported and tweaked.
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      ~ Clarence Darrow


Moderated Re: adding Outlook contacts

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 01:54 PM, Bill White wrote:
Yes, there is. It is in Outlook Options>Mail. He would need to press SHIFT plus TAB about twenty times or TAB about thirty times to reach this setting. It should look something like this,

Use Auto-Complete List to suggest names when typing in the To, Cc, and Bcc lines check box not checked
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The problem being that the default is "checked" and has always been "checked."  The probability of this being unchecked is vanishingly small.

The problem is that the user has a completely inaccurate idea of how autocomplete works, period.  If they believe that typing first and last initial of an individual that is already in autocomplete will find them, unless they so happen to use that setup in front of their email address as the name, they're mistaken, and they've been mistaken for as long as I can remember.

You can't "fix" normal behavior that someone simply doesn't understand or refuses to understand.
 
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Moderated Re: adding Outlook contacts

James Bentley
 

Brian, this turns out to be a bit more complicated than I expected.  Since I am happy with how Outlook is handling my addressees, I will leave well alone.

 

If it ain’t broke...

 

Thank you for the links.

 

James B 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 12:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: adding Outlook contacts

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 01:14 PM, James Bentley wrote:

Do you happen to know where I can go in Outlook to find this list of addressees that get automatically stored?

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No, but there's tons of information out there if you care to dig a bit for it.  See the results from https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Outlook+autocomplete+list 

Specifically, these Microsoft pages:

Information about the Outlook AutoComplete list - Outlook ...

Manage suggested recipients in the To, Cc, and Bcc boxes ...

Import or copy the Auto-Complete List to another computer ...

and this How To Geek page, for starters:

Manage Your Outlook Email Address Auto-Complete List

There are scads more, but since I don't use Outlook I don't care to dig on this one.

 
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      ~ Clarence Darrow


Moderated Re: adding Outlook contacts

Bill White
 

Yes, there is. It is in Outlook Options>Mail. He would need to press SHIFT plus TAB about twenty times or TAB about thirty times to reach this setting. It should look something like this,

Use Auto-Complete List to suggest names when typing in the To, Cc, and Bcc lines check box not checked

If it says not checked, he should press SPACE to check the box, then TAB to OK, and press ENTER.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 7:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: adding Outlook contacts

I am thinking there is some setting that would allow him to do that,
that might have been somehow been disabled because all he gets is a ding
sound when he attempts to type CF, as he mentioned in his example. so,
still would appreciate a suggestion or better yet, the solution.

-------- Original Message --------
From: John Covici [mailto:covici@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 2:58 PM
Subject: adding Outlook contacts
If you just add the contact and send an Email, after that you will be
able to type the first couple of letters, etc. I am not sure you even
have to make the person a contact to do this.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 14:48:48 -0400,
Mario wrote:

regarding , this is what he told me he wants to do:

"I put the email address in the list.
now I am going to send them a email but I don't want to spell the hole name.
I can just put the first to letters of the name or what numbers or letters.
I do this with chris, I am sending her a email. all I punch in cf
(her first and last name initials) and her
email comes up and I do this with a lot of people that I email a lot
I hope that makes sense."

the verbage between the parentheses is my comment because I know
who the Chris he mentioned is. I don't know how what he is asking
can be accomplished. anyone have a clue?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 11:54 AM
Subject: adding Outlook contacts
a friend of mine is using Outlook 2016 with JAWS 2021 on Windows 10, and
wants to know the keystrokes for adding a new contact to his list, and
"also putting a short cut key for the name I am adding".

I don't know what he is talking about in reference to his latter
request. nor do I know the answer to his former request since I don't
use Outlook. would someone please help.








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Moderated Re: adding Outlook contacts

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 01:14 PM, James Bentley wrote:
Do you happen to know where I can go in Outlook to find this list of addressees that get automatically stored?
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No, but there's tons of information out there if you care to dig a bit for it.  See the results from https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Outlook+autocomplete+list 

Specifically, these Microsoft pages:

Information about the Outlook AutoComplete list - Outlook ...

Manage suggested recipients in the To, Cc, and Bcc boxes ...

Import or copy the Auto-Complete List to another computer ...

and this How To Geek page, for starters:

Manage Your Outlook Email Address Auto-Complete List

There are scads more, but since I don't use Outlook I don't care to dig on this one.

 
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To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


Moderated Re: adding Outlook contacts

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 01:18 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
When Outlook adds an address for me, I can't find it in contacts.
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The autocomplete addresses are separate from Contacts, though if you use a Contact at any point it will end up being included in your autocomplete list.

I have a definitive answer from someone who is far more expert in Outlook than I am, and he confirms my thesis (and my frustration).  I'll quote his reply and then give a direct link to the topic on Technibble for those who may wish to read through the entire thing:
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Autocomplete works off its own list, and is populated by what was put into the To box previously. It doesn't work off your address book, if you want the address book you click the "to" label.

And no, you cannot have contacts be in the "recent" list without use, and it won't ever suggest based on a contact. Which is kind of dumb... but short lived as a problem because use of either Teams or Outlook sorts out autocomplete automatically very quickly.
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Outlook (2016 & Later) & email addressing


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Moderated Re: adding Outlook contacts

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

There is a place in Outlook Options, Mail, to have it use the auto complete, or not.
If you press control+3 and are not finding your contacts there, I'd call Microsoft Accessibility and get their help in sorting this out.
800-936-5900



Richard

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My web site, www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 10:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: adding Outlook contacts

Where are those addresses stored? When Outlook adds an address for me, I can't find it in contacts.
At 10:11 AM 3/17/2021, you wrote:
John,     You are entirely correct that Outlook and most email
clients will "remember"
anyone you've either received and email from or sent an email to as far
as presenting potential addressees as you type in addition to those you
may have stored as contacts.     I only store contacts for
people I know I will likely need to contact via some means other than
email or if it's someone I contact so seldom that I may not recognize
their email address and need to look that up via a contact.--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 Â

To think is to differ.   ~ Clarence Darrow


Moderated eudora and JAWS loosing labeled graphics

ratshtron
 

if people are loosing labeled graphics when using eudora, you can press insert plus ctrl plus escapes and get them back.


Moderated Re: adding Outlook contacts

Ann Byrne
 

Where are those addresses stored? When Outlook adds an address for me, I can't find it in contacts.

At 10:11 AM 3/17/2021, you wrote:
John,     You are entirely correct that Outlook and most email clients will "remember" anyone you've either received and email from or sent an email to as far as presenting potential addressees as you type in addition to those you may have stored as contacts.     I only store contacts for people I know I will likely need to contact via some means other than email or if it's someone I contact so seldom that I may not recognize their email address and need to look that up via a contact.--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 Â

To think is to differ.   ~ Clarence Darrow