-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 4:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Laptop mouse question

On my HHP laptops there is a mouse setting to disable the touch pad if you
have a physical mouse plugged in. I purchased a mouse with a small dongle
and keep it plugged into a USB port.

On 11/15/2020 2:55 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Mark:



I have been using Dell laptops lately, and always try to turn off the
mouse pad for the same reasons you suggest.



However, I notice that sometimes the mouse pad gets turned back on
probably from Dell updates, so I'm gradually learning to live with the
mouse bening enabled.



If someone has instructions for turning the mouse pad off on a Dell
computer, and keeping it off, I'd appreciate them.



Tom Behler







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold
ABG
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 3:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Laptop mouse question



List,



I have had numerous laptops over the years and the "mouse" area always
causes problems. Often times I inadvertently touch the mouse area and
JAWS loses focus. Do most users turn off the mouse and connect an
external mouse if sighted users want to utilize a mouse? Any input would

be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Mark





Mark D. Arnold

Co-Director

American Blind Golf

Phone: (330) 419-1710

www.AmericanBlindGolf.com <http://www.AmericanBlindGolf.com>

www.OhioBlindGolf.com <http://www.OhioBlindGolf.com>





Motivate, Inspire & Serve

On 11/15/2020 2:55 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Mark:
I have been using Dell laptops lately, and always try to turn off the mouse
pad for the same reasons you suggest.
However, I notice that sometimes the mouse pad gets turned back on probably
from Dell updates, so I'm gradually learning to live with the mouse bening
enabled.
If someone has instructions for turning the mouse pad off on a Dell
computer, and keeping it off, I'd appreciate them.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 3:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Laptop mouse question
List,
I have had numerous laptops over the years and the "mouse" area always
causes problems. Often times I inadvertently touch the mouse area and JAWS
loses focus. Do most users turn off the mouse and connect an external mouse
if sighted users want to utilize a mouse? Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Mark
Mark D. Arnold
Co-Director
American Blind Golf
Phone: (330) 419-1710
www.AmericanBlindGolf.com <http://www.AmericanBlindGolf.com>
www.OhioBlindGolf.com <http://www.OhioBlindGolf.com>
Motivate, Inspire & Serve

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 3:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Laptop mouse question

 

List,

 

I have had numerous laptops over the years and the “mouse” area always causes problems…  Often times I inadvertently touch the mouse area and JAWS loses focus.  Do most users turn off the mouse and connect an external mouse if sighted users want to utilize a mouse?  Any input would be appreciated…

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 

Mark D. Arnold

Co-Director

American Blind Golf

Phone: (330) 419-1710

www.AmericanBlindGolf.com

www.OhioBlindGolf.com

 

Motivate, Inspire & Serve

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: November 15, 2020 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Just a bit more about Full speech, speech on demand and speech muted:
As Jasmine pointed out, pressing Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S invokes
Speech on Demand which limits what Jaws will speak and it is something braille
display users often use because they want less speech, but still some speech.
If you want to mute Jaws entirely, you can do this by pressing Jaws Key +
Spacebar followed by Shift + S As soon as you press this key combination Jaws
will be totally muted until you again press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S
which restores full speech.

As for the keyboard shortcut which didn't work to bring up Jaws, you should
first go to your Jaws shortcut on the desktop, press Alt + Enter to bring up the
properties and tab twice to check if somehow the keyboard shortcut you set was
removed. If you hear the following:
Shortcut key: Hot key
Control + Alt + J
To define the hotkey Type the keystroke combination.
Then your keyboard shortcut is set, if so not sure why it didn't work, but as
Brian suggested, maybe delete it and reassign it. Personally I prefer Control +
Shift + J, somehow I find it easier to press that key combination than Control +
Alt + J, but that is very subjective.
Also keep in mind that reloading Jaws is not instant, when I just tried it it
took about 7 or 8 seconds before Jaws started speaking after I pressed the
keyboard shortcut.

One alternative to bring up Jaws was already given, press Windows + R and type
Jaws2021 (or whatever your version is), make sure you don't insert a space
between Jaws and the version number, it has to be all without spaces.
You can also press Windows Key + M, I often do it twice just to be sure, this
minimizes all programs and takes me to the desktop. As long as Jaws is the only
shortcut you have which starts with J you can then just press J and enter and
Jaws should also start.
Lastly, if you are using Windows 10, you should be able to simply press the
Windows key to bring up the search box and type "JFW" which is the name of the
program file, jfw.exe. Don't include the .exe, just type JFW and press enter,
for me this also starts Jaws. This would, however, potentially be a problem on a
machine with 2 or more Jaws versions since the application files are all called
JFW.exe. I assume it would still work, but which version of Jaws you get is
probably anybody's guess. But if as you say you only have 1 Jaws version on your
computer this should also work and strictly by how many keys you have to press
it is easier than Windows Key + R and typing Jaws2021 or Jaws2020.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Insert+ , then s is a toggle between speak on command or full speech.
While watching a video, use insert+space then s and jaws will be silent unless
you press a reading command like insert+up arrow.
When the video is done, press insert+space then s again and Jaws will say full
speech and you'll be back in business.

There was something odd going on with Jaws 2019 and 2020 on my system where none
of the hotkeys on my desktop worked.
So far with Jaws 2021 they are working again.
Otherwise, the Windows+r then JawsXXXX where the x's are replaced with your jaws
version works quite well.



Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

No Jasmin, I only have the one version. Does this command (insert space s) just
mute Jaws, or would it mute the speech in the video that I'm watching as well?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: November 14, 2020 6:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Hi, Madison,
To help you better, I have a couple of questions for you. First, do you have any
other versions of JAWS on your computer? If so, it may be that the shortcut is
only set for the previous version. Another thing is that if you want to mute
speech, you can press Insert+Space, then the letter S. Hope this helps!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:03 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws command question

Hi all,
Today I was watching a Youtube video, and Jaws kept talking so I couldn't hear
the people in the video very well. So I turned Jaws using insert f4.
Well after the video was finished I tried to turn Jaws on using control alt j,
but it didn't work, my Dad had to click on Jaws. Now I know I have the command
set, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work. Any ideas? Is there any other way I
can turn Jaws on myself? If Jaws isn't working then my Braille display doesn't
work either (not sure if this is normal or not) so I don't even know where I am.
I hardly ever turn Jaws off, but I'd still like to know why the command to turn
it on doesn't work. Running Jaws 2018. Look forward to any suggestions anyone
can provide!! Thanks Madison

----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin@mymts.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop


How do I do a right click? I don't use a mouse and the touch pad is turned
off.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: November 15, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Go to file location right click on the JAWS file and choose send to and then
choose desktop shortcut.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin@mymts.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop


That didn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Summers
via
groups.io
Sent: November 15, 2020 1:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Do what you did, but Open file location find your JAWS and copy the file to
the
clipboard.
Now go to your desktop and paste the file.

Andrew
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: 15 November 2020 18:55
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hi all,
I went to my desktop and the Jaws shortcut doesn't seem to be on there. I
went
into the search box and found Jaws, but when I pressed shift f10 to create a
shortcut I got 5 options:
Run as administrator
Open file location
Unpin from taskbar
Pin to start
Uninstall

Can someone please tell me, what other way (s) can I create a shortcut for
Jaws
on my desktop? Even though you've all provided me with other ways to start
Jaws,
I'd still like to check and see if my shortcut key is still set or not.
Thanks
Madison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: November 15, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Go to file location right click on the JAWS file and choose send to and then
choose desktop shortcut.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin@mymts.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop


That didn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via
groups.io
Sent: November 15, 2020 1:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Do what you did, but Open file location find your JAWS and copy the file to the
clipboard.
Now go to your desktop and paste the file.

Andrew
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: 15 November 2020 18:55
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hi all,
I went to my desktop and the Jaws shortcut doesn't seem to be on there. I went
into the search box and found Jaws, but when I pressed shift f10 to create a
shortcut I got 5 options:
Run as administrator
Open file location
Unpin from taskbar
Pin to start
Uninstall

Can someone please tell me, what other way (s) can I create a shortcut for Jaws
on my desktop? Even though you've all provided me with other ways to start Jaws,
I'd still like to check and see if my shortcut key is still set or not.
Thanks
Madison

----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin@mymts.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop


That didn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Summers
via
groups.io
Sent: November 15, 2020 1:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Do what you did, but Open file location find your JAWS and copy the file to
the
clipboard.
Now go to your desktop and paste the file.

Andrew
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: 15 November 2020 18:55
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hi all,
I went to my desktop and the Jaws shortcut doesn't seem to be on there. I
went
into the search box and found Jaws, but when I pressed shift f10 to create a
shortcut I got 5 options:
Run as administrator
Open file location
Unpin from taskbar
Pin to start
Uninstall

Can someone please tell me, what other way (s) can I create a shortcut for
Jaws
on my desktop? Even though you've all provided me with other ways to start
Jaws,
I'd still like to check and see if my shortcut key is still set or not.
Thanks
Madison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Hello. Are you saying that Norton software currently contains accessibility challenges? I'm wondering if you could be a bit more specific about what some of the current issues are?

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/14/2020 7:09 AM, Ken Chernack via groups.io wrote:

Will you please explain a little more about your comments?
I use Norton Security for security, password management and more.
I just can't forget about Norton and install Defender.
I have a lifetime of work at stake.

Is anyone at The Sparrow engaged with Norton to correct this bug?

Please lower my blood pressure!
Your, and others, help is appreciated.
Ken
p.s. If there is any truth to your statements, I am very happy that I
have been ignoring the upgrade message I am a SMA subscriber.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Hi for people who are having issues with JAWS 2021 and virus software
such as Norton and Mcaffee, there is a solution to this problem!

Apparently, from what I'm reading in the thread, the virus programs
are treating JAWS like it's a Trojan ,malware or a virus. The software
removes JAWS.

Once they are removed, enable Windows defender and this should solve
the issue.

Hope this helps.

--
Sent from my Windows 10 HP

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via
groups.io
Sent: November 15, 2020 1:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Do what you did, but Open file location find your JAWS and copy the file to the
clipboard.
Now go to your desktop and paste the file.

Andrew
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: 15 November 2020 18:55
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hi all,
I went to my desktop and the Jaws shortcut doesn't seem to be on there. I went
into the search box and found Jaws, but when I pressed shift f10 to create a
shortcut I got 5 options:
Run as administrator
Open file location
Unpin from taskbar
Pin to start
Uninstall

Can someone please tell me, what other way (s) can I create a shortcut for Jaws
on my desktop? Even though you've all provided me with other ways to start Jaws,
I'd still like to check and see if my shortcut key is still set or not. Thanks
Madison