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Re: JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again
Cynthia Bruce
Thanks, Mike, I tried this and no difference. I will try to restart in the morning and then do it again.
Cynthia
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: February 24, 2021 6:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again
Hi Cynthia,
This was a supposed fix in the latest February update, see below: • Resolved an issue where the Avoid Speech Cut Off feature stopped working when using the Sound Cards option in the JAWS Utilities menu to switch to Open your Settings Center default all applications Type, avoid, in the search field and allow a couple of seconds for the results to pop-up. You should have only 1 result, Avoid speech cutoff when using bluetooth.... Make sure this is checked, and if it's already check, you could try unchecking it to see if anything changes as well.
I didn't have any problems with a bluetooth headset but, I did have a problem losing speech all together after this update and checking that checkbox seemed to clear up my loss of speech issue.
----- Original Message ----- From: Cynthia Bruce Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 2:17 PM Subject: JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again
Hello Everyone,
I have encountered an issue with JAWS and my Bluetooth headphones again, and it seems to have happened right after I installed the February update to JAWS 2021. I am using Windows 10, and Jabra evolve Bluetooth headphones. Before, my issue was that I lost speech when using zoom, but I managed to trouble shoot that problem by changing soundcards when using JAWS. Now, when I turn on my headset, I lose speech everywhere. Does anyone know anything about this? If not, can I uninstall the latest update?
Many thanks,
Cynthia
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Re: JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again
Mike B.
Hi Cynthia,
This was a supposed fix in the latest February
update, see below:
• Resolved an issue where the Avoid Speech Cut
Off feature stopped working when using the Sound Cards option in the JAWS
Utilities menu to switch to
another sound device. Open your Settings Center default all
applications
Type, avoid, in the search field and allow a
couple of seconds for the results to pop-up.
You should have only 1 result, Avoid speech
cutoff when using bluetooth....
Make sure this is checked, and if it's already
check, you could try unchecking it to see if
anything changes as well.
I didn't have any problems with a bluetooth
headset but, I did have a problem losing speech all together after this update
and checking that checkbox seemed to clear up my loss of speech
issue.
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 2:17 PM
Subject: JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again Hello Everyone,
I have encountered an issue with JAWS and my Bluetooth headphones again, and it seems to have happened right after I installed the February update to JAWS 2021. I am using Windows 10, and Jabra evolve Bluetooth headphones. Before, my issue was that I lost speech when using zoom, but I managed to trouble shoot that problem by changing soundcards when using JAWS. Now, when I turn on my headset, I lose speech everywhere. Does anyone know anything about this? If not, can I uninstall the latest update?
Many thanks,
Cynthia
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JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again
Cynthia Bruce
Hello Everyone,
I have encountered an issue with JAWS and my Bluetooth headphones again, and it seems to have happened right after I installed the February update to JAWS 2021. I am using Windows 10, and Jabra evolve Bluetooth headphones. Before, my issue was that I lost speech when using zoom, but I managed to trouble shoot that problem by changing soundcards when using JAWS. Now, when I turn on my headset, I lose speech everywhere. Does anyone know anything about this? If not, can I uninstall the latest update?
Many thanks,
Cynthia
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Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS
JM Casey
Maybe. Would be interesting to see it tried. I personally feel it wouldn’t’ be fast enough and result in a fairly unpleasant experience, but I’m not really certain. Despite the lack of sync-up (I don’t know how or if that can be done), having a braille display with a text file loaded (srt) still seems the best choice to me, personally. Trouble is, you’d have trouble finding new content this way. I’m ok with it because I mostly watch old cult films. Lol That said I did want to watch the series Dark in German because the english dubbing is horrendous to me (although interestingly, my german friend didn’t find it so).
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: February 24, 2021 02:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS
You could always use the iPhone, maybe Android to read it with the app Seeing AI. You would need a clamp to hold the phone in front of the TV. They do make bendable clamps for holding phones. I would think it would need to be plugged in for power backup if watching an entire movie. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: James Benstead To: jfw@groups.io Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 1:04 PM Subject: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS
Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS interacts with the subtitles on videos: both standalone video files that play in apps like VLC, and videos that run in websites like YouTube.
I know that without very quick OCR, JAWS would always struggle with subtitles that are "burnt in" to a video. But what about subtitles that are included as a text file along with the video? Can JAWS access these, and somehow synchronise them with a video as it plays?
In speaking to my friend it struck me that this isn't something I've ever done, and that I don't know how to do it. My friend wants to know because he produces educational videos for a publishing company, and he wants to make them more accessible. It also occurs to me that having JAWS read out subtitles could be used to create a form of audio description.
Do any of you know how to do this?
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Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS
Glenn / Lenny
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You could always use the iPhone, maybe Android to
read it with the app Seeing AI.
You would need a clamp to hold the phone in front
of the TV.
They do make bendable clamps for holding
phones.
I would think it would need to be plugged in for
power backup if watching an entire movie.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: James
Benstead
To: jfw@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 1:04 PM
Subject: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how
JAWS interacts with the subtitles on videos: both standalone video files that
play in apps like VLC, and videos that run in websites like YouTube.
I know that without very quick OCR, JAWS would always struggle with
subtitles that are "burnt in" to a video. But what about subtitles that are
included as a text file along with the video? Can JAWS access these, and somehow
synchronise them with a video as it plays?
In speaking to my friend it struck me that this isn't something I've ever
done, and that I don't know how to do it. My friend wants to know because he
produces educational videos for a publishing company, and he wants to make them
more accessible. It also occurs to me that having JAWS read out subtitles could
be used to create a form of audio description.
Do any of you know how to do this?
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Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS
paul lemm
Hi,
Although this doesn’t directly answer your question, I haven’t tried it but there is an experimental add on for NVDA which I believe can read OCR in real time from a video. Again, I haven’t tried this, it seems people are using it to read subtitles (some people seem to be having more success than others) but if you want to read more about the add on there is a topic on the audio games forum, I’ll put the link below. Just talking subtitles, I know on my iPhone voice over will read subtitles if I’m watching something on the Netflix app which has subtitles (I know as I accidently turned on subtitles by mistake the other day hahaha). anyway, link to that NVDA addon topic below:
https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/33489/lion-nvda-continuous-ocr-reader-works-for-subtitles-video-games/
Paul
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Benstead
Sent: 24 February 2021 19:04 To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS
Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS interacts with the subtitles on videos: both standalone video files that play in apps like VLC, and videos that run in websites like YouTube.
I know that without very quick OCR, JAWS would always struggle with subtitles that are "burnt in" to a video. But what about subtitles that are included as a text file along with the video? Can JAWS access these, and somehow synchronise them with a video as it plays?
In speaking to my friend it struck me that this isn't something I've ever done, and that I don't know how to do it. My friend wants to know because he produces educational videos for a publishing company, and he wants to make them more accessible. It also occurs to me that having JAWS read out subtitles could be used to create a form of audio description.
Do any of you know how to do this?
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Re: Jaws will not read setting options
ratshtron
if you are using a desktop computer try pressing shift plus numpad plus to turn the touch cursor and then using the arrow keys you should be able to hear something. on a laptop, i believe the command is shift plus caps lock plus [ to turn the touch cursor. to turn it off press the jaws cursor command numpad minus on the desktop and shift plus plus caps lock plus [.
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Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS
JM Casey
Yeah...there doesn't really seem anything else it could do, honestly.
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In my opinion, the *only* really pleasant way to deal with subtitles is with a braille display. I try to find .srt files on the internet, which are basically just text fiels with time codes. It's not the best experience but, well, there are millions of films in languages I don't understand, so as a person who appreciates cinema, what else can you do? Lol
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: February 24, 2021 02:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS I don't know a general answer but do know on youtube I've encountered videos with accompanying transcription text where the text is highlighted in time with the progressing video. I actually find this particular set-up incredibly annoying to deal with because jaws reads the changing selection as the voice on the recording advances. On 2/24/21, James Benstead <james.benstead@gmail.com> wrote: Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@gmail.com
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Re: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre Office?
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 03:30 PM, JM Casey wrote:
JAWS is based almost entirely on its scripts.- This cannot be stated often enough. A huge amount of JAWS functionality is not a part of its core code, but of scripts. There's nothing wrong with this model, but if you stripped JAWS of the script sets it ships with, you'd not have anything you recognize as JAWS. By the way, scripts generally only need to be updated if something "entirely new" is put into the user interface. And by that I don't mean a new bell or whistle that's in an existing control set, as that just adds an item that would be traversed and accessed like all the other ones. Many scripts for many things, though not all, will not receive frequent updates because they don't need them. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS
Soronel Haetir
I don't know a general answer but do know on youtube I've encountered
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videos with accompanying transcription text where the text is highlighted in time with the progressing video. I actually find this particular set-up incredibly annoying to deal with because jaws reads the changing selection as the voice on the recording advances.
On 2/24/21, James Benstead <james.benstead@gmail.com> wrote:
Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS --
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Accessing video subtitles with JAWS
James Benstead
Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS interacts with the subtitles on videos: both standalone video files that play in apps like VLC, and videos that run in websites like YouTube. I know that without very quick OCR, JAWS would always struggle with subtitles that are "burnt in" to a video. But what about subtitles that are included as a text file along with the video? Can JAWS access these, and somehow synchronise them with a video as it plays? In speaking to my friend it struck me that this isn't something I've ever done, and that I don't know how to do it. My friend wants to know because he produces educational videos for a publishing company, and he wants to make them more accessible. It also occurs to me that having JAWS read out subtitles could be used to create a form of audio description. Do any of you know how to do this?
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Re: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre Office?
JM Casey
Hmm.yeah, but I don’t' think the interface has changed much. I could be
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wrong. If there are other scripts theya re probably made by a third party and I'm not aware of them. I suspect there aren't any. Up to some clever person(s) to create them.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald Sent: February 24, 2021 08:49 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre Office? I looked at the actual scripts for Symphony. They have not been updated since 2015; meaning about the time Symphony went away. So, since Libre Office has been continually morphing and updating since that time, I still wonder if there may be some other script set or application to which it ought to be associated. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre Office? JAWS is based almost entirely on its scripts. If you don't get any extra ones from the internet or elsewhere, you are just using ones that come witht eh software -- there are many, pretty much all the applications that are listed in the help topics for jaws have got a script set, and since that application help is not updated too often, they have probably added more recently, too that I'm not aware of. Third-party scripts are just that, third-party scripts, based on the same principle. The Symphony scripts are a part of the JFW software. I don't know if anyone has created third-party scripts...if not, then that is probably the best you will get. That doesn't mean the scripts haven't been updated since the days of Symphony (a really long time ago); just that Symphony is a generic catch-all term now for everything under the Open Office model/umbrella. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: February 22, 2021 03:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre Office? where can the scripts be gotten from, I thought scripts for JAWS weren't necessary anymore? -------- Original Message -------- From: Richard B. McDonald [mailto:richardbmcdonald@gmail.com] To: <jfw@groups.io> Date: Monday, February 22, 2021, 2:42 PM Subject: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre Office? Hi! I am using JAWS 2020, Windows 10 and Libre Office 7.1 (LO). Natively, JAWS points to the “Symphony” application for the script set it uses for LO. Given the many years that have lapsed since Symphony was active and the commensurate progression of LO, is there a better application script set for to point to; maybe even just “Default?” if so, how do you go about making that change? Thanks, Richard
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Re: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre Office?
Richard B. McDonald
I looked at the actual scripts for Symphony. They have not been updated
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since 2015; meaning about the time Symphony went away. So, since Libre Office has been continually morphing and updating since that time, I still wonder if there may be some other script set or application to which it ought to be associated.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre Office? JAWS is based almost entirely on its scripts. If you don't get any extra ones from the internet or elsewhere, you are just using ones that come witht eh software -- there are many, pretty much all the applications that are listed in the help topics for jaws have got a script set, and since that application help is not updated too often, they have probably added more recently, too that I'm not aware of. Third-party scripts are just that, third-party scripts, based on the same principle. The Symphony scripts are a part of the JFW software. I don't know if anyone has created third-party scripts...if not, then that is probably the best you will get. That doesn't mean the scripts haven't been updated since the days of Symphony (a really long time ago); just that Symphony is a generic catch-all term now for everything under the Open Office model/umbrella. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: February 22, 2021 03:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre Office? where can the scripts be gotten from, I thought scripts for JAWS weren't necessary anymore? -------- Original Message -------- From: Richard B. McDonald [mailto:richardbmcdonald@gmail.com] To: <jfw@groups.io> Date: Monday, February 22, 2021, 2:42 PM Subject: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre Office? Hi! I am using JAWS 2020, Windows 10 and Libre Office 7.1 (LO). Natively, JAWS points to the “Symphony” application for the script set it uses for LO. Given the many years that have lapsed since Symphony was active and the commensurate progression of LO, is there a better application script set for to point to; maybe even just “Default?” if so, how do you go about making that change? Thanks, Richard
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Re: iTunes with Jaws 2021
Monica S
Can you tell me which other apps I should uninstall from my computer regarding iTunes before I download the iTunes app from the Microsoft store? I’ve seen Bonjour on this computer but didn’t know what it was. I currently don’t have iTunes installed on my computer but had it on a previous one. Thank you for any assistance.
Sincerely,
Monica
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Udo Egner-Walter via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 10:27 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Itunes with Jaws 2021
Hi John,
You wrote:
There are two versions of iTunes available. The newest one is the iTunes app you can download from Microsoft Store. You can still download the older one from the Apple homepage, that's right, but this version - at least as far as I know - will not developed further any more. So sooner or later you will be forced to change to the new app
You've probably heard of Windows 10 S, the OS version allowing only installations of apps from Microsoft Store. In this article:
you can read that Windows 10 S was leading Apple to develop the Microsoft Store version. By the way, the benefit of using the app from Microsoft Store is a clean install. If you install the old native app you will get services from Apple installed too, for example Bonjour.
Because all of this I tried the Microsoft Store app first.
Best wishes Udo
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Re: Win10 Mail app question
Joseph Hudson
Hi Maria, user. tab in the arrow keys to navigate around the mailboxes. If you need to access the file menu to add an account, use your old key and then use your respective air keys to navigate around.
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On Feb 23, 2021, at 10:20 PM, Maria Reyes <sassyblindgirl@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Using Older Normal.dotm in Newer Office Suite
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 11:43 PM, Mike B wrote:
So, you're saying that I can copy / paste the, normal.dotm, file that I've created manually for 2010 into the same file path below and use it in 2016?- Yes. Copy it somewhere, anywhere that you know where it is. Uninstall Office 2010. Install Office 2016. Delete fresh Normal.dotm that was created by the install. Copy your backup copy of Normal.dotm back to your user, AppData, Roaming, Microsoft, Templates. By the way, if you open a new blank file in word, and do a Save As, one of the file type options is dotx, document template. If you do that save, the dotx will end up in the same folder as Normal.dotm. This actually drives me crazy, and I always move my DOTX files out to folders that are related to what I created that template for. I have lots of templates for envelopes, letters with letterhead, and similar. I also use them for fillable MS-Word forms, where activating the DOTX file creates a "blank" version of the fillable form with the various form fields you fill out. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Re: Using Older Normal.dotm in Newer Office Suite
Mike B.
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In other words I don't need to rename the file
at all for the, normal.dotm, to work in Word 2016, if I'm understanding your
message correctly? Thanks much. Stay safe and take care. Mike.
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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: Using Older Normal.dotm in Newer Office
Suite I wonder what would happen if I change the, dotm, to a, dotx? I'm going to try it just to see what happens! LOL- When you try to create a new blank document I expect it will not have all the things you've tweaked over time. Luckily, you can just undo the renaming, and you'll be doing that. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build
19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Re: Using Older Normal.dotm in Newer Office Suite
Mike B.
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Brian,
So, you're saying that I can copy / paste
the, normal.dotm, file that I've created manually for 2010 into the same file
path below and use it in 2016?
C:\Users\Mike\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates
I only have, normal.dotm, files in my
Templates folder, no .dotx files at all, at least not in the templates folder
using the file path above.
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: Using Older Normal.dotm in Newer Office
Suite Hi, Mike. No, you can't transfer the normal template from Word 2010 to Office 2016 Pro. This is because they have a different format, and a different file extension. The templates in Word 2010 have a .dotm extension, whereas the templates in Office 2016 Pro have a .dotx extension.- Bill, I'm sorry, but in this case, you're incorrect. The Normal.dotm file is a special form of template that has existed for all versions of MS-Office since 2007 (I think, as that's when all the doc and dot files got X tacked on to the end). It is separate from user created document templates, which are, as you note, DOTX files. Normal.dotm should be located in C:\Users\{insert appropriate user folder here}\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates and can be copied and pasted back in to that folder, or the equivalent folder for another user, if you want all of the changes you've made to your blank word document defaults over time. DOTM and DOTX both have been in use for many years. And if you're someone who creates document templates you'll have way more DOTX files. Normal.dotm is generally singular (unless you've made a copy for backup somewhere). -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build
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Win10 Mail app question
Maria Reyes
Hi, how do you navigate in a thread when using Windows 10 mail?
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Re: Using Older Normal.dotm in Newer Office Suite
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 11:10 PM, Mike B wrote:
I wonder what would happen if I change the, dotm, to a, dotx? I'm going to try it just to see what happens! LOL- When you try to create a new blank document I expect it will not have all the things you've tweaked over time. Luckily, you can just undo the renaming, and you'll be doing that. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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