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Moderated Re: Stopping JAWS Reading The Numbers Of Links And Other Items When Opening A Web Page

Mark Fisher
 

Thanks Bill

I think I've decided its a bit inconsistent in the way it behaves. I'll keep playing around with that setting.

Mark Fisher
Manager - People Systems
Water Corporation


Moderated Re: Jaws not reading text as I type in edit fields in Edge

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Brian,

 

My guess would be old accounting software, that’s usually what trips businesses up, because it costs a fortune to upgrade them.

 

I now use Quickbooks Online, so I don’t have to install any software, just me and the ol’ browser.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 04 March 2022 17:11
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not reading text as I type in edit fields in Edge

 

On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 12:04 PM, Curtis Chong wrote:

If you are using JAWS 18, you are not keeping up with the most current browsing technology.

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Not that I don't agree with you, but the original poster has clearly stated, "Unfortunately, this is on a work machine. We have a couple of programs that only work with Jaws 18, so upgrading for now is out of the question."

Sadly, these sorts of situations are all too common.  If individuals or businesses don't have a commitment to keeping up-to-date on everything, being not-up-to-date on one thing often forces other things to have to be kept, too.

There's nothing personal about the original poster in this observation, but what on earth is this business using that will only work with JAWS 18 that won't work with the later versions?  I don't doubt what's been said, but that's a huge red flag right there.  So is the comment that Internet Explorer is still being used.  It will soon be entirely gone from Windows 10 and 11, and if they're not even running Windows 10 then it's not a red flag but a house afire!
 
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Moderated Re: accessible desktop tax software

Michael Walker
 

Hi John,

Is there any reason you can’t use the tax act website, to file your taxes? Why is the desktop version a requirement?

Back when I filed my own taxes, I used the website version of TurboTax. It worked pretty well. Sometimes, I did need the jaws cursor. It was mostly accessible though.

Mike

On Mar 16, 2022, at 2:35 PM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:

Hmm, I could hardly read anything in the window, I could not read the questions or anything, they sure broke it this year.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicky Collins
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 12:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: accessible desktop tax software

I was able to prepare and submit my return using TaxAct desktop, but it did require using the touch cursor a lot and thus took much longer for me to complete my return this year.
On Mar 16, 2022, at 10:30 AM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:

Hi. I was using taxact for many years to do my taxes, but they did
something mean and its no longer accessible. I tried turbotax and
that does not work either. I need a desktop version that has a
schedule c.

Anybody know of anything out there?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...















Moderated Re: accessible desktop tax software

John Covici
 

Well, I was unable to even get that far.  I could not tab to any buttons, even.  I was using taxact home and business – I wonder if you were using some other version?  I could barely import last years return and after that, I could hardly read the window, jaws cursor or virtual pc cursor.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicky Collins
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 6:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: accessible desktop tax software

 

Do you perhaps have any suggestions that might help others navigate the TaxAct program, or perhaps yours would be similar to mine? For examples, when I would restart the program after walking away for a while, I needed to use the touch cursor and then tab to the Continue Where I Left Off button or whatever it is where I could then press enter. Also, often when a new question came up, all the information wouldn’t be read, and I found it easiest to use the arrow keys to first arrow up to where the information for that question began and then use the down arrow to read through all the info and then find the appropriate button on which to press enter. A couple of times I had to route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor and then find the exit button and do a left mouse click to get out of something. And then, too, for completing some of the lines on the form, especially when several lines were completed on one screen, I had to use the touch cursor to tab through the choices to then make each of my selections. And then once done, I would activate that cursor once again and tab through the entire screen to make sure that I had indeed chosen what I meant to choose. When tabbing through the choices, though, JAWS would most often repeat the prior choice before reading the current one, so it took much more time than it should to go through some of the forms.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Marie Nelson
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 2:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: accessible desktop tax software

 

Sorry, I believe you were speaking of Tax act and that is the one I used.

Marie

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 9:44 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: accessible desktop tax software

 

Marie,  And you used ...?

 

On 3/16/2022 6:21 PM, Marie Nelson wrote:

> I am using win10 2021 H1 and the latest version of Jaws 22. I just completed and e-filed my tax return two days ago. Although there were some stumbling blocks along the way, I managed to get them worked out. I do have a fairly simple return so this might make a difference.

> Hope you find the right solution.

> Marie

>  

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici

> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 12:35 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: accessible desktop tax software

> Hmm, I could hardly read anything in the window, I could not read the questions or anything, they sure broke it this year.

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicky Collins

> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 12:41 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: accessible desktop tax software

> I was able to prepare and submit my return using TaxAct desktop, but it did require using the touch cursor a lot and thus took much longer for me to complete my return this year.

>> On Mar 16, 2022, at 10:30 AM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:

>> 

>> Hi.  I was using taxact for many years to do my taxes, but they did

>> something mean and its no longer accessible.  I tried turbotax and

>> that does not work either.  I need a desktop version that has a

>> schedule c.

>> 

>> Anybody know of anything out there?

>> 

>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

>> 

>> --

>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:

>> How do

>> you spend it?

>> 

>>          John Covici wb2una

>>          covici@...

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

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Moderated Re: accessible desktop tax software

Vicky Collins
 

Do you perhaps have any suggestions that might help others navigate the TaxAct program, or perhaps yours would be similar to mine? For examples, when I would restart the program after walking away for a while, I needed to use the touch cursor and then tab to the Continue Where I Left Off button or whatever it is where I could then press enter. Also, often when a new question came up, all the information wouldn’t be read, and I found it easiest to use the arrow keys to first arrow up to where the information for that question began and then use the down arrow to read through all the info and then find the appropriate button on which to press enter. A couple of times I had to route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor and then find the exit button and do a left mouse click to get out of something. And then, too, for completing some of the lines on the form, especially when several lines were completed on one screen, I had to use the touch cursor to tab through the choices to then make each of my selections. And then once done, I would activate that cursor once again and tab through the entire screen to make sure that I had indeed chosen what I meant to choose. When tabbing through the choices, though, JAWS would most often repeat the prior choice before reading the current one, so it took much more time than it should to go through some of the forms.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Marie Nelson
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 2:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: accessible desktop tax software

 

Sorry, I believe you were speaking of Tax act and that is the one I used.

Marie

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 9:44 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: accessible desktop tax software

 

Marie,  And you used ...?

 

On 3/16/2022 6:21 PM, Marie Nelson wrote:

> I am using win10 2021 H1 and the latest version of Jaws 22. I just completed and e-filed my tax return two days ago. Although there were some stumbling blocks along the way, I managed to get them worked out. I do have a fairly simple return so this might make a difference.

> Hope you find the right solution.

> Marie

>  

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici

> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 12:35 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: accessible desktop tax software

> Hmm, I could hardly read anything in the window, I could not read the questions or anything, they sure broke it this year.

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicky Collins

> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 12:41 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: accessible desktop tax software

> I was able to prepare and submit my return using TaxAct desktop, but it did require using the touch cursor a lot and thus took much longer for me to complete my return this year.

>> On Mar 16, 2022, at 10:30 AM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:

>> 

>> Hi.  I was using taxact for many years to do my taxes, but they did

>> something mean and its no longer accessible.  I tried turbotax and

>> that does not work either.  I need a desktop version that has a

>> schedule c.

>> 

>> Anybody know of anything out there?

>> 

>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

>> 

>> --

>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:

>> How do

>> you spend it?

>> 

>>          John Covici wb2una

>>          covici@...

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

--

Thanks,

Lion Marty Hutchings

BOLD Secretary, Program Director and VIP Liaison

(262) 605-8981

mhutchings152730@...

https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisconsinbold.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C63615c3723ee450d9ce208da07d0cd2b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637830890611016862%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=qf9TdZptyWsIPWHNcBGQHiaPGzvFurd2ANztK3mCz%2BI%3D&amp;reserved=0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Moderated Re: webpage layout

leonard morris
 

I found when smart navigation was on (mine is set to controls and tables) the insertX will temporarily change how information such as links and buttons are displayed on the webpage when using the arrow keys. I wasn't aware of this quick settings in Jaws but it is certainly useful. I now have a better understanding what my navigation issues were on webpages.

On 3/21/2022 7:53 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
document presentation mode.  Change from simple to screen layout.
At 11:25 PM 3/20/2022, you wrote:
    What is the jaws setting to change links on a webpage from going accross the screen with left and right arrow keys to going down the screen with the up and down arrow keys?








Moderated Jaws saying all different levels

Morey Worthington
 

Using Jaws 2022, w10.

If I go to Thunderbird, since newest J update, Jaws is saying all the different levels as we go along in the messages...example..0 inbox...1 joe smith and it goes on from there.

Any thoughts on how to curtail this???

Thanks

--
Morey Worthington


Moderated Re: webpage layout

leonard morris
 

Jaws Key  plus F7   will bring up the list of links.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.


On Mar 21, 2022, at 8:09 PM, Milton Ota <mota1252@...> wrote:

Hi,

I think you are thinking of the keystroke Insert + F7


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2022 11:26 PM
To: jaws <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: webpage layout

    What is the jaws setting to change links on a webpage from going accross the screen with left and right arrow keys to going down the screen with the up and down arrow keys?













Moderated Re: webpage layout

Milton Ota
 

Hi,

I think you are thinking of the keystroke Insert + F7

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2022 11:26 PM
To: jaws <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: webpage layout

What is the jaws setting to change links on a webpage from going accross the screen with left and right arrow keys to going down the screen with the up and down arrow keys?


Moderated Re: webpage layout

Ann Byrne
 

document presentation mode. Change from simple to screen layout.

At 11:25 PM 3/20/2022, you wrote:
   What is the jaws setting to change links on a webpage from going accross the screen with left and right arrow keys to going down the screen with the up and down arrow keys?





Moderated webpage layout

leonard morris
 

What is the jaws setting to change links on a webpage from going accross the screen with left and right arrow keys to going down the screen with the up and down arrow keys?


Moderated Re: Stopping JAWS Reading The Numbers Of Links And Other Items When Opening A Web Page

Bill White
 

Hi again, Mark. Try changing the configuration file for Chrome. search for read. Uncheck the option which says, “Document and Web Pages Automatically Read When Loaded”. Sometimes, when you try to stop the browser from reading the document, it only works in the configuration for the browser in question, not when you try to put the change in the default configuration file.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Fisher
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2022 3:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Stopping JAWS Reading The Numbers Of Links And Other Items When Opening A Web Page

 

Hi Curtis

Thanks for that suggestion however I already have that as my default. 

--
Mark Fisher
Manager - People Systems
Water Corporation


Moderated Re: Stopping JAWS Reading The Numbers Of Links And Other Items When Opening A Web Page

Bill White
 

Hi, Mark. Try doing the same thing, except, do it for the configuration file for the browser you are using, instead of changing the default configuration file.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Fisher
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2022 3:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Stopping JAWS Reading The Numbers Of Links And Other Items When Opening A Web Page

 

Hi Curtis

Thanks for that suggestion however I already have that as my default. 

--
Mark Fisher
Manager - People Systems
Water Corporation


Moderated Re: Stopping JAWS Reading The Numbers Of Links And Other Items When Opening A Web Page

crayton Benner <craybay3198@...>
 

I do not believe that there is a way to disable jaws from telling you how many links or headings are on a page. Of course, like mentioned before, you can tell it to disable automatic doing a say all on a page. 


On Mar 20, 2022, at 18:51, Mark Fisher <fishsilv@...> wrote:

Hi Curtis

Thanks for that suggestion however I already have that as my default. 

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Manager - People Systems
Water Corporation


Moderated Re: Stopping JAWS Reading The Numbers Of Links And Other Items When Opening A Web Page

Mark Fisher
 

Hi Curtis

Thanks for that suggestion however I already have that as my default. 

--
Mark Fisher
Manager - People Systems
Water Corporation


Moderated Re: OpenBook

Milton Ota
 

If you have Openbook running on a Windows 10 operating system, it should work in Windows 11. But, you will get much better results using the new features of OCR scanning and recognition in JAWS 2022 as the OCR engine is using a later version than the one bundled with Openbook.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2022 11:08 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: OpenBook

 

Hello List,

 

Does anyone know if OpenBook will work with Windows 11 and the latest release of JAWS?  I know there are all sorts of solutions for reading text and optical character recognition, but I still like to use OpenBook on occasion.

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark


Moderated Re: OpenBook

Ann Byrne
 

It will. I am using it with windows 11 and no problem.

At 11:07 AM 3/20/2022, you wrote:

Hello List,



Does anyone know if OpenBook will work with Windows 11 and the latest release of JAWS? I know there are all sorts of solutions for reading text and optical character recognition, but I still like to use OpenBook on occasion.



Thanks in advance,

Mark


Moderated OpenBook

Mark Arnold ABG
 

Hello List,

 

Does anyone know if OpenBook will work with Windows 11 and the latest release of JAWS?  I know there are all sorts of solutions for reading text and optical character recognition, but I still like to use OpenBook on occasion.

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark


Moderated jaws and snagit

Shankar.C <shankar.c@...>
 

Friends, greetings.

I am shankar, from India.

On my office device I have installed the snagit screen recorder and want to configure for the screen recording.

So, kindly help me what are the settings need to be done in terns for the screen readers.

 


Moderated Re: I need a link to game day audio

Jim Rawls
 

Mike would yhk9ou please contact ,off line? Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 6:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups. io <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: I need a link to game day audio

Jim

Are you looking for the page which lists the game broadcasts?
If so, here's the one I've used for more years than I can remember and is
active once again this season.

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/player/mpa/index.jsp