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Re: Alternative to Webvisum
lauren
okay what about the rest of us who don't use firefox? What alternatives do we have?
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Re: Alternative to Webvisum
Kane Brolin
I've never heard of CaptchaMonster before but am interested to try
this out. After I take the time to test, I will pass my findings onto the list. I have done a brief search of the Web for anything else I can find about blind users locating alternative techniques to Solona and Webvisum. Aside from the possibility you have raised, Gerald, it looks as if everyone is in the same boat without an obvious solution aside from the sighted reader. As an example, check out this reference to a thread I found on the Klango network: https://klango.net/en/forum/thread/tid/616783/page/1.
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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?
Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
Raymond, when did you last solve a capcha with it or go to the Webvisum website itself?
At 07:51 AM 6/21/2012, you wrote: I updated to the latest version of firefox and webvism works very well for me.-------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING: http://www.ctsmastering.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/CTSMASTERING Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/CTS-Mastering/139114066128698 Linked In: http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/chris-smart/46/824/536 Dropbox: Have your stuff when you need it. 2GB is free: http://db.tt/bQ2GuIt
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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?
cecropia64
unfortunately, i did. i guess this is just one of those things. but it doesn't make me any happier knowing this.
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From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:36 PM Subject: Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools? Cecropia, did you contribute while it was still running? I sure did, since it solved such an annoying problem.
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Alternative to Webvisum
Gerald Levy
Now that Webvisum is gone,I'm looking for a captcha solving alternative. Someone on another list suggested Captcha Monster, a paid Firefox add-on that purports to automatically solve image captchas . Does anyone have experience with this Firefox add-on, and is it compatible with JAWS?
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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?
Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
Cecropia, did you contribute while it was still running? I sure did, since it solved such an annoying problem.
At 10:59 PM 6/20/2012, you wrote: FUNNY THING IS THAT THEY NEVER LET ANYBODY KNOW THAT THEY MIGHTT NOT BE COMING BACK. I KNOW IT'S A FREEBIE, BUT YOU'D THINK THEY'D LET A USER KNOW. ALSO, IF THEY WERE ALWAYS HURTING FOR MONEY, WHY NOT SELL WEB VISUM TO SOMEBODY WHO WANTED TO CONTINUE? JUST A THOUGHT.-------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING: http://www.ctsmastering.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/CTSMASTERING Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/CTS-Mastering/139114066128698 Linked In: http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/chris-smart/46/824/536 Dropbox: Have your stuff when you need it. 2GB is free: http://db.tt/bQ2GuIt
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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?
Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
Really? I can't go to its Website.
At 08:19 PM 6/20/2012, you wrote: Web vism is still active. I still use it.-------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING: http://www.ctsmastering.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/CTSMASTERING Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/CTS-Mastering/139114066128698 Linked In: http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/chris-smart/46/824/536 Dropbox: Have your stuff when you need it. 2GB is free: http://db.tt/bQ2GuIt
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jaws losing keyboard support
Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
Hi, I have been having a problem. Of course it is inconsistent.
I am running XP pro sp3, and jaws 13 latest build. When I use the windows key + l to lock my computer some times it does just what it is supposed to do. Sometimes when I lock my computer jaws continues to speak but I have no keyboard support. Has any one else have this experience? Any thoughts on what might be happening? Tom Bisset
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Re: Solving captcha if you are totally blind.
George B
because it takes both the first letter of each word you type and gives you
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also a chance of getting it correct if you get two of the five words correct in your answer
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Re: I want to thank all of you..
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Quick, get the copyright!
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of George B Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:40 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: I want to thank all of you.. hay now farfar, i see others are useing my fav. quote!!! gut it is; "give a man a fish, and he eats for a day, teach a man how to catch a fish and he eats for a lifetime" -----Original Message----- _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: I want to thank all of you..
George B
hay now farfar,
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i see others are useing my fav. quote!!! gut it is; "give a man a fish, and he eats for a day, teach a man how to catch a fish and he eats for a lifetime"
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Re: I want to thank all of you..
Dave...
AJ,
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You are welcome! But be careful with that quotation. I was slammed some time ago for promoting that concept. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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From: "A.J. LaPointe" <alapointe89@...> To: <Jfw@...> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 06:26 Subject: I want to thank all of you.. Hi, I want to make sure that everyone knows how much I appreciate all of your support and answering my sometimes simple questions... This means a lot to me as you know... This and other e-mail lists are the best. Teach a man to fish so to feed him a lifetime... Again, thank you.. Andy and Shubert Andrew J. LaPointe Commissioner, Salem Commission on Disabilities President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging 34 Raymond Ave. Salem, MA. 01970 Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20120621/05e1c9ed/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Windows 7 and the search..
Dave...
press alt enter on the filename when you find it it will be a dialog that
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dialog shows the file path it is easy try it some time let us know if you can do it by now dave Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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From: "A.J. LaPointe" <alapointe89@...> To: <Jfw@...> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 06:05 Subject: Windows 7 and the search.. Hello, can someone tell me how to find out where the file is located in the computer when doing a windows key search? Sometimes I loose an e-mail without deleting it but I can find it to read by pressing the windows key and searching for it... The problem is, how do you know where it was found... Thanks so much... Andy Andrew J. LaPointe Commissioner, Salem Commission on Disabilities President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging 34 Raymond Ave. Salem, MA. 01970 Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20120621/e19a75a1/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?
Dave...
Raymond, now that is a very good thought, and I agree that accessibility for
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the blind and other disabled users is too often left as an afterthought. It appears that internet security against hackers and spammers has slammed the door in our face. So we actually should be railing against the hackers and spammers for our lack of accessibility. But their ears are no more deaf to our needs than those of the security-conscious. We are hosed, for now. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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From: "Raymond Lombardi" <ray214@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 05:10 Subject: Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools? I think there should be a law that mandates that if you're going to put audio captchas, they need to be where blind people can understand them. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Solving captcha if you are totally blind.
Dave...
Raymond -- What! You need to do some research before posting aspersions like
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From: "Raymond Lombardi" <ray214@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 05:12 Subject: Re: Solving captcha if you are totally blind. It's a new thing that freedom scientific has done called aria. I forget what it is for though. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?
Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
The reason for the captcha is to prevent automated access to the site. That is also why the sound is so bad. They don't want robots deciphering the words/letters.
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Even the visual is not clear so that it is difficult for robots to grasp. Tom Bisset
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of cecropia64@... Sent: June 21, 2012 9:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools? On 6/21/2012 8:09 AM, Rose Combs wrote: Yes, and Google is a prime example, I spent 30 minutes trying to decipheryou know what really stings? the fact that when a capcha is put on a page, it is visible! what's the big secret? it's only there so people on the site know it's authentic, or so it is supposed to be. my point is why do they have to make the audio for us so damn bad? why not just put it out there without all the background noise and stuff. the sighted folks can see the words or code, so why can't it be put out there in clearly audible format for us.? what's the big secret? somebody got an answer for that? i'd love to hear it! _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?
cecropia64
On 6/21/2012 8:09 AM, Rose Combs wrote:
Yes, and Google is a prime example, I spent 30 minutes trying to decipheryou know what really stings? the fact that when a capcha is put on a page, it is visible! what's the big secret? it's only there so people on the site know it's authentic, or so it is supposed to be. my point is why do they have to make the audio for us so damn bad? why not just put it out there without all the background noise and stuff. the sighted folks can see the words or code, so why can't it be put out there in clearly audible format for us.? what's the big secret? somebody got an answer for that? i'd love to hear it!
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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?
Kane Brolin
My intention here is not to make this a politically divisive issue on
a tech list ... But maybe the demise of Webvisum and Solona will revive interest in The CAPTCHA Project from Towson University. This is highlighted in a back issue of "The Braille Monitor," flagship publication of the National Federation of the Blind here in the USA: http://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm09/bm0901/bm090108.htm The thought process here is that CAPTCHA can be used to make a Website both secure and accessible if the Web designers reframe how they think of this process. Instead of our trying to interpret a garbled visual image or a distorted series of audible, random alphanumeric characters, why not permit the user to prove his/her humanity by identifying a simple sound? You could hear the sound of a cow, of running water, of a bell or an actor snapping his fingers, and could simply respond by identifying three or four of these simple signs with the words representing them. Obviously, for sighted users, a picture of the same thing could be presented and the sighted user simply could type what is seen. This would require active intelligence, not just a mathematical algorithm. The standard audio CAPTCHA in use today, though better for some blind people, is still horribly frustrating to those who are deaf-blind or hard of hearing. So I for one hope that The CAPTCHA Project is alive and can gain some traction as a result of Webvisum's and Solona's failure to stay viable. -Kane
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I want to thank all of you..
Andrew J. LaPointe
Hi, I want to make sure that everyone knows how much I appreciate all of your support and answering my sometimes simple questions... This means a lot to me as you know... This and other e-mail lists are the best. Teach a man to fish so to feed him a lifetime... Again, thank you.. Andy and Shubert
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Re: Windows 7 and the search..
Hi,
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When the file is searched, you'll see it under documents heading. Highlight the file, press Applications key to enter context menu and select "open file location." Cheers, Joseph
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of A.J. LaPointe Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:05 AM To: Jfw@... Subject: Windows 7 and the search.. Hello, can someone tell me how to find out where the file is located in the computer when doing a windows key search? Sometimes I loose an e-mail without deleting it but I can find it to read by pressing the windows key and searching for it... The problem is, how do you know where it was found... Thanks so much... Andy Andrew J. LaPointe Commissioner, Salem Commission on Disabilities President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging 34 Raymond Ave. Salem, MA. 01970 Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201206 21/e19a75a1/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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