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Re: How to navigate to the end of data in a Google spreadsheet with Jaws?
Thomas N. Chan <thomas.nchan@...>
If you did read my respond previously, google sheet in most cases you need to turn off browse mode. That will take away the insert - 3 to bypass the key. Google webapps, 70% of the time, you need to turn off screen reader browse mode. toggle braille on and off to get better experience. Regards, Thomas N. Chan
On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 01:16, Lori Lynn <grandma.lori@...> wrote:
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Re: How to navigate to the end of data in a Google spreadsheet with Jaws?
Cristóbal
I mean… yes, but the question was about Google sheets. Not Excel.
Cristóbal
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lori Lynn
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to navigate to the end of data in a Google spreadsheet with Jaws?
I’m using Microsoft 365 and the latest JAWS. Whenever I leave an Excel spreadsheet and then return to it my focus is always on the last cell I was in. I’ve never set anything for this to occur, but it always does. Good luck.
Lori Lynn
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
As I explained in my initial email, I have accessibility settings (control+alt+Z) enabled My question wasn’t about how to read cell information, but rather how to jump to the end of the data or alternatively, how to have focus land on the last row of data when opening the Google sheet or refreshing the same document. IN any event, someone else on another list was able to provide an answer on at least how to jump to the last row of data by invoking the pass through keyboard command (insert+3)then control+down arrow. It would still be nice to know how to have a sheet always open on the last row of data, but I guess that’s more a general Google docs question and not necessarily a screen reader one.
Cristóbal
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas N. Chan
You need to enable google keyboard support by hitting ctrl - alt - z Then turn off jaws browse mode insert - z Thats where you can read all the cell or info on google sheet. Below is the website where google list all of the keyboard shortcut https://support.google.com/docs/answer/181110?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 06:06, E.M. Kirtley <ekirtley45@...> wrote:
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Re: Setting Outlook up for JAWS
James Rinehart
Hi James,
The link in your email goes to a site that says it is expired. Just an FYI
Unless you have something really specific going on, you should be able to run Outlook with JAWS even if the reading pane is turned on. I run it on and to the right.
But is you don’t want the reading pane, Try this and see if it helps.
Starting at the inbox
Press Alt + V + C + V Right arrow twice to preview (gets rid of the reading pane)
Repeat the Alt + V + C + V opens a menu press S to save Then Enter
Good luck
James Rinehart, MA, ATP, CWDP
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
James Benstead
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 12:57 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Setting Outlook up for JAWS
Does anybody have a tried and tested tutorial for configuring Outlook to run with JAWS? I know one of the main steps with this is switching off the Reading Pane in all views, but I can't get this to work consistently and none of the tutorials
I've found online seem to do the trick. -- Was wondering if anyone has knowledge if Spark Instant Messenger is compatible with JAWS 2018? Thanks Jim Rinehart
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Re: What I do to make a system image using built-in program
Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...>
Dave,
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Thanks, I would be interested to read as I use IFW as well but in a different way than you suggest. For some reason, I did not see that post. Could you forward to me? Thanks, Alan
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 12:49 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What I do to make a system image using built-in program Alan: See the reply, I have just posted to James. I have use the I F W restore utility with both Talking Windows Preinstall Environments. In both cases the utility is very easy to use by anyone who is visually impaired. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Robbins" <arobbins1057@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:38 PM Subject: Re: What I do to make a system image using built-in program Dave, Excellent post. What I've always found is creating images is pretty blind friendly. The problem comes when restoring the image. Have you tried restoring as per below and is it possible without sighted assistance? Thanks, Alan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 7:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What I do to make a system image using built-in program Randy: The purpose for creating an image of your system drive, is that you bacup everything which is stored on that drive, including the operating system, any and all programs which you have installed, and any personal data, you have stored on the drive. In addition, when you use an image backup program, the partition and format information is also saved, so that, when you need to restore an image. once it has been restored successfully, you restart your computer, and your system boots into Windows in the condition it was, when you created the image backup. If you create a system image backup, including Incremental backups, when you restore the system backup plus, any incremental backups, then the system will be restore to the condition, when the last incremental backup was made, when you restart the system. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Barnett" <blindmansbluff09@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 5:06 AM Subject: Re: What I do to make a system image using built-in program So in a total failure of windows you have to reinstall windows first then
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Re: How to navigate to the end of data in a Google spreadsheet with Jaws?
Lori Lynn
I’m using Microsoft 365 and the latest JAWS. Whenever I leave an Excel spreadsheet and then return to it my focus is always on the last cell I was in. I’ve never set anything for this to occur, but it always does. Good luck.
Lori Lynn
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 12:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to navigate to the end of data in a Google spreadsheet with Jaws?
As I explained in my initial email, I have accessibility settings (control+alt+Z) enabled My question wasn’t about how to read cell information, but rather how to jump to the end of the data or alternatively, how to have focus land on the last row of data when opening the Google sheet or refreshing the same document. IN any event, someone else on another list was able to provide an answer on at least how to jump to the last row of data by invoking the pass through keyboard command (insert+3)then control+down arrow. It would still be nice to know how to have a sheet always open on the last row of data, but I guess that’s more a general Google docs question and not necessarily a screen reader one.
Cristóbal
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Thomas N. Chan
You need to enable google keyboard support by hitting ctrl - alt - z Then turn off jaws browse mode insert - z Thats where you can read all the cell or info on google sheet. Below is the website where google list all of the keyboard shortcut https://support.google.com/docs/answer/181110?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 06:06, E.M. Kirtley <ekirtley45@...> wrote:
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James Bentley
Hello Dave,
I wasn’t even aware that an IFW PE existed. I do not see that in my version of IFW but there is so much stuff there, I do not doubt it.
But, in my post, I was referring to the IFW create recovery boot disk. This comes with the Image for Windows software. This is not a WinPE. It is however, a utility, more specifically, a recovery utility that came with my IFW. It absolutely does include Narrator which allows a blind person to do a complete image restore without a Win10PE or any other utilities or software.
Regards,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 11:44 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: create a system image.
James:
The I F W PE tool, does not come with any screen reader. It is possible to create a Preinstall Environment which includes a screen reader, such as NVDA but, why reinvent the wheel. As I have mentioned before, there are 2 versions of a Talking Preinstall Environment, 1 for Windows 7 and 1 for Windows 10. They both come with NVDA and Eloquence, as the speech engine. I personally prefer the one for Windows 7. The additional programs which are included with the Windows 10 TWPE, I have stored in a folder on the external USB drive, where I keep the image backups for all our systems.
Dave
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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
I would call Microsoft Accessibility and ask how to disable the reading pane for all views: 800-936-5900
Richard "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it." - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
Web site: www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
James Benstead
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 9:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Setting Outlook up for JAWS
Does anybody have a tried and tested tutorial for configuring Outlook to run with JAWS? I know one of the main steps with this is switching off the Reading Pane in all views, but I can't get this to work consistently and none of the tutorials
I've found online seem to do the trick.
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Re: How to navigate to the end of data in a Google spreadsheet with Jaws?
Cristóbal
As I explained in my initial email, I have accessibility settings (control+alt+Z) enabled My question wasn’t about how to read cell information, but rather how to jump to the end of the data or alternatively, how to have focus land on the last row of data when opening the Google sheet or refreshing the same document. IN any event, someone else on another list was able to provide an answer on at least how to jump to the last row of data by invoking the pass through keyboard command (insert+3)then control+down arrow. It would still be nice to know how to have a sheet always open on the last row of data, but I guess that’s more a general Google docs question and not necessarily a screen reader one.
Cristóbal
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas N. Chan
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 5:48 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to navigate to the end of data in a Google spreadsheet with Jaws?
You need to enable google keyboard support by hitting ctrl - alt - z Then turn off jaws browse mode insert - z Thats where you can read all the cell or info on google sheet. Below is the website where google list all of the keyboard shortcut https://support.google.com/docs/answer/181110?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 06:06, E.M. Kirtley <ekirtley45@...> wrote:
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Glenn / Lenny
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Dave,
On WinPE you can simply pull the plug so to speak,
or even literally when shutting down with WinPE, as it is only loaded in RAM, so
nothing would get broke.
It's wiped out on power off.
Glenn
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From: Dave Durber
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: create a system image. Randy:
I use Image for Windows, produced by Terabyte. You
get a 30 day trial, then you need to purchase a license, to go on using the
program. I do not think the purchase price is that expensive, probably about 50
dollars, US.
As far as I know, there are 2 versions of a Talking
Windoes Preinstall Environment (TWPE). One produced by Brian Smart for Windows 7
and another by someone by the name of Carlos, sorry I do not know his last name,
for Windows 10. Once you boot into either TWPE, hopefully You should
be able to run Macrium Reflect Free, to restore a previously created
image to your system drive, using NVDA to speak the prompts and menues.
I use Brian Smart's Windows 7 TWPE and the Image for Windows restore
utility, to restore images. I use this TWPE because, I find that it boots
faster, an it definitely shuts down the computer correctly, when you have
finished restoring an image or, when you have finished using the TWPE for any
other reason.
When I have used Carlos's TWPE, I have found that when you shut down the
computer, it occasionally hangs, and you need to press and hold the power
button, until the system switches off.
HTH
Dave
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Setting Outlook up for JAWS
James Benstead
Does anybody have a tried and tested tutorial for configuring Outlook to run with JAWS? I know one of the main steps with this is switching off the Reading Pane in all views, but I can't get this to work consistently and none of the tutorials I've found online seem to do the trick.
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Re: create a system image.
Dave Durber
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James:
The I F W PE tool, does not come
with any screen reader. It is possible to create a Preinstall
Environment which includes a screen reader, such as NVDA but, why reinvent the
wheel. As I have mentioned before, there are 2 versions of a Talking Preinstall
Environment, 1 for Windows 7 and 1 for Windows 10. They both come with
NVDA and Eloquence, as the speech engine. I personally prefer the one for
Windows 7. The additional programs which are included with the Windows 10
TWPE, I have stored in a folder on the external USB drive, where I keep the
image backups for all our systems.
Dave
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Dave Durber
Alan:
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See the reply, I have just posted to James. I have use the I F W restore utility with both Talking Windows Preinstall Environments. In both cases the utility is very easy to use by anyone who is visually impaired. Dave
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From: "Alan Robbins" <arobbins1057@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:38 PM Subject: Re: What I do to make a system image using built-in program Dave, Excellent post. What I've always found is creating images is pretty blind friendly. The problem comes when restoring the image. Have you tried restoring as per below and is it possible without sighted assistance? Thanks, Alan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 7:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What I do to make a system image using built-in program Randy: The purpose for creating an image of your system drive, is that you bacup everything which is stored on that drive, including the operating system, any and all programs which you have installed, and any personal data, you have stored on the drive. In addition, when you use an image backup program, the partition and format information is also saved, so that, when you need to restore an image. once it has been restored successfully, you restart your computer, and your system boots into Windows in the condition it was, when you created the image backup. If you create a system image backup, including Incremental backups, when you restore the system backup plus, any incremental backups, then the system will be restore to the condition, when the last incremental backup was made, when you restart the system. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Barnett" <blindmansbluff09@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 5:06 AM Subject: Re: What I do to make a system image using built-in program So in a total failure of windows you have to reinstall windows first then
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James Bentley
Dave,
It’s been so many years since I used IFW to create a bootable recovery thumb drive , I do not remember all of the steps. But, if an IFW user goes to the start menu and looks through the IFW menu , they will want to click on create an IFW recovery boot disk. Note, you will get the option to create a bootable disk or a bootable thumb drive. I do not remember exactly how it is worded.
I hope that Narrator is still incorporated in to their bootable recover disk.
One advantage to Image for Windows is their 30-day free trial version.
Note, there will be options to download Image for DOS, (IFD), Image for Lennox, (IFL), and Image for Windows, (IFW), For modern PC’s I strongly recommend using IFW.
I believe that having an image back up stored away from your PC, for example, on an external drive that is not connected to your PC to be critical if you value your data.
If coming up with around forty dollars for IFW is a problem, one could always down load the free version of Macrium Reflect. A visually impaired person can make the image backups. And, they would just have to learn how to use one of the talking WinPE options to do a restoration of their PC.
If worst comes to worst, one can just use the free version of Macrium Reflect to create your images and find sighted assistance if you need to restore your system.
Finding eye sight at 3 in the morning isn’t convenient but loosing all of your valuable data is far worse.
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 9:02 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: create a system image.
James:
In order to use the I F W recovery utility, you need to run it within one of the 2 TWPE, I mentioned in my previous email. Although, there is a way to include NVDA in the I F W PE building utility itself but, I have no idea how to do that.
Dave
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Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...>
Dave,
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Excellent post. What I've always found is creating images is pretty blind friendly. The problem comes when restoring the image. Have you tried restoring as per below and is it possible without sighted assistance? Thanks, Alan
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 7:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What I do to make a system image using built-in program Randy: The purpose for creating an image of your system drive, is that you bacup everything which is stored on that drive, including the operating system, any and all programs which you have installed, and any personal data, you have stored on the drive. In addition, when you use an image backup program, the partition and format information is also saved, so that, when you need to restore an image. once it has been restored successfully, you restart your computer, and your system boots into Windows in the condition it was, when you created the image backup. If you create a system image backup, including Incremental backups, when you restore the system backup plus, any incremental backups, then the system will be restore to the condition, when the last incremental backup was made, when you restart the system. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Barnett" <blindmansbluff09@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 5:06 AM Subject: Re: What I do to make a system image using built-in program So in a total failure of windows you have to reinstall windows first then
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Dave Durber
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James:
In order to use the I F W recovery utility, you
need to run it within one of the 2 TWPE, I mentioned in my previous email.
Although, there is a way to include NVDA in the I F W PE building utility itself
but, I have no idea how to do that.
Dave
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Re: if you were getting a new computer.
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
I too would stick with SSD depending on your space needs 512 GB or 1 TB. I would not put the files I value on an HD drive these days since the price of SSD has come down so far.
I believe there is now an I8 if not an I9 chip. I have the I7 and it is great and all I need.
Make sure you have at least 3 USB ports. A built-in SD card reader. I don’t know if Windows is putting in USBC ports, but that would be nice since many things are going that way.
Richard "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it." - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
Web site: www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Hope Williamson
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:27 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.
If I could get one right now, here's what I'd do. I'd definitely get 16-32 GB of ram, because if you want the thing to last for 6-7 years, you just never know what's going to be needed that far down the road. I'd definitely go for an I7, although it doesn't have to be the fastest one out there, they're already fast. I'd see if I could get a 1 TB SSd, and a 2-4 TB external drive. That should store everything you need, and then some. There's most likely no need for a secondary internal drive, if you can pull off a 1 TB SSD. On 4/15/2021 5:42 AM, john clayton wrote:
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Hope Williamson <webspinner@...>
If I could get one right now, here's what I'd do. I'd definitely get 16-32 GB of ram, because if you want the thing to last for 6-7 years, you just never know what's going to be needed that far down the road. I'd definitely go for an I7, although it doesn't have to be the fastest one out there, they're already fast. I'd see if I could get a 1 TB SSd, and a 2-4 TB external
drive. That should store everything you need, and then some.
There's most likely no need for a secondary internal drive, if you
can pull off a 1 TB SSD.
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Barbara Sheinbein
Hi Jim,
Others have mentioned some specs, but I do have a few other ideas for you to consider. You probably want to be sure your new computer has a camera, one which automatically focuses. Why you ask? If you participate in any zoom meetings with friends or family, they will want to see you. Only one of my two computers has a camera and I must be sure to use it in these situations.
Another suggestion is your backup situation. There are a lot of ways to do this nowadays. I currently purchased Office 365 which has a very reasonable fee system. You can set this up with your wife and she can have access to your files. There is a way to do this and also a way not to share, so you can keep all your secrets! It is JAWS friendly. You will have lots of storage for your music or anything else you wish. There are a variety of packages to select from. Keep in mind this is where Microsoft is putting all their efforts, so it will likely always be the most accessible. I also wanted this so if I am unable to access my information due to health for example, my family who I share this with can get access to important information. There are other cloud storage options out there, but you may want to look at those, but after my own review with my sister, we decided on One Drive.
This would eliminate you looking for a less expensive version of Office as well.
I also have a network drive. This has some duplication with the cloud storage, but I had this before I signed up for Office 365. A network drive allows me to store and work from this physical drive which operates via the modem. There is a password to prevent others from getting access. It automatically backs up to a mirror drive so if the primary drive goes bad, all my information will still be available.
Lots of moving pieces to consider. Smile.
Good luck.
Barbara
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: if you were getting a new computer.
Hi all, It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions. What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but I’m open to suggestions on any recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like? any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my new computer.[Jim
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Re: How to navigate to the end of data in a Google spreadsheet with Jaws?
Thomas N. Chan <thomas.nchan@...>
You need to enable google keyboard support by hitting ctrl - alt - z Then turn off jaws browse mode insert - z Thats where you can read all the cell or info on google sheet. Below is the website where google list all of the keyboard shortcut https://support.google.com/docs/answer/181110?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en Regards, Thomas N. Chan
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 06:06, E.M. Kirtley <ekirtley45@...> wrote:
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john clayton
Hi Jim, Here's what I would suggest you get. At least a I5 or I7th gen processor, the newer the better or an AMD equivalent 1 SSD and 1 HDD. the SSd to act as your C drive and where your windows and programs you use frequently go, and the HDD to store things such as music, movies etc. SSd minimum 128GB 256GB preferred, 512 if you can pull that off. HDD should be around 1TB to 4TB, totally up to you and your budget. 8GB of ram should be more than enough for most things, but if you want to future proof your machine, go for 16GB ram instead. Hope that helped some,
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 11:56, Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...> wrote:
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