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Re: Outlook 2010

Adrian Spratt
 

Karen,

Not control-delete, but control-d.

Someone who is more expert can chime in, but I do't believe that opening an email exposes you to greater risk of viruses. The real risk stems from opening attachments or clicking on suspect links.

With regard to the preview pane, I mentioned the difficulty it can create in navigation with JAWS. For me, there's a second concern. Anyone looking at my screen could see the contents of messages I might otherwise want to keep to myself, especially when I don't know what they say. Closing the preview pane ensures I have control over my computer privacy.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:51 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Outlook 2010

Hi,
Thank you for these suggestions. The control +1 really helps. The control
delete seems to delete the whole conversation thread and I don't always want
to do that. Is this right or is it just the one e-mail?

The way FS said to read an e-mail is to press enter on it, read it, and then
press escape. My understanding is that when you press enter on an e-mail you
are opening it. When you open an e-mail it places you at greater risk for
viruses to be put on your computer. Whereas when you just preview them the
risk is low.

Karen


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Outlook 2010

Karen,

1. In Outlook 2010, press control-d to delete while inside a message.

2. To return to the list box, press control-1, the 1 being the key in the
number row above the letters.

Can you elaborate on why you believe turning off the preview pane might
expose your system to viruses? I've had it turned off throughout my years of
use of Outlook 2003 and 2010, as well as Outlook Express, without harm. It
makes navigation so much easier.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:47 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Outlook 2010

Hi,
I am having trouble getting used to Outlook 2010. With 2003 I could press
delete while in the message and it would put it in the deleted folder. In
2010 it is not doing this. To delete it I have to be in the list box.
Sometimes to get back into the list box I have to press pageup several times
whereas before shift tab would put me back in the list box. It seems to go
up to the previous link not the list box. Is there a shortcut key to get me
back into the list box? And is there another way to delete the message while
in the preview pain reading the message as in 2003? I called FS about
reading messages and they recommend turning preview pain off and entering
the messages. The problem with this is that it is not very safe for
preventing viruses from getting on my computer.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Karen


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Re: Outlook 2010

Karen Reynolds <reynolds-karen@...>
 

Hi,
Thank you for these suggestions. The control +1 really helps. The control
delete seems to delete the whole conversation thread and I don't always want
to do that. Is this right or is it just the one e-mail?

The way FS said to read an e-mail is to press enter on it, read it, and then
press escape. My understanding is that when you press enter on an e-mail you
are opening it. When you open an e-mail it places you at greater risk for
viruses to be put on your computer. Whereas when you just preview them the
risk is low.

Karen

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Outlook 2010

Karen,

1. In Outlook 2010, press control-d to delete while inside a message.

2. To return to the list box, press control-1, the 1 being the key in the
number row above the letters.

Can you elaborate on why you believe turning off the preview pane might
expose your system to viruses? I've had it turned off throughout my years of
use of Outlook 2003 and 2010, as well as Outlook Express, without harm. It
makes navigation so much easier.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:47 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Outlook 2010

Hi,
I am having trouble getting used to Outlook 2010. With 2003 I could press
delete while in the message and it would put it in the deleted folder. In
2010 it is not doing this. To delete it I have to be in the list box.
Sometimes to get back into the list box I have to press pageup several times
whereas before shift tab would put me back in the list box. It seems to go
up to the previous link not the list box. Is there a shortcut key to get me
back into the list box? And is there another way to delete the message while
in the preview pain reading the message as in 2003? I called FS about
reading messages and they recommend turning preview pain off and entering
the messages. The problem with this is that it is not very safe for
preventing viruses from getting on my computer.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Karen


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Re: unknown script called to move to next landmark

Dave Maynard <dmaynard35@...>
 

Problem solved. I had merged my Jaws 13 settings into version 14. In the
jkm file for 13 the semi colon was for "move to next landmark". In version
the semi colon is for "move to next region". They both seem to do the same
thing, but FSmust have had some reason for changing the script name.

Thanks,

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 1:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: unknown script called to move to next landmark

David,

Works fine for me, with JFW 14.0.4004. It says "no region" for the web site
I tried, but no script error.

Dave Carlson
Marketing and Sales Analyst
Electronic and Telecommunications Expertise dgcarlson@...

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 10:21 AM
Subject: unknown script called to move to next landmark



Hi;

While on a web page when I press the ; (semi colon) I get the:
"unknown script called to move to next landmark.
" error message. This happens on 2 machines running W7 pro and the latest
update of Jaws 14. One machine is running 32 bit and the other 64 bit.

Have I missed a prior discussion of the issue? Is anyone else having this
problem?

All help appreciated.

Thanks,

David Maynard

Franklin NC

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Re: Pearl camera and others: was Opinions From A Former JAWS Developer

John ESherrer
 

The eye pal works like that, but the eye pal comes with automatic OCR and
only works with it own software. I believe the OCR is done in the camera.
John Sherrer

Check out my novel at: http://americastribulation.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Pearl camera and others: was Re: Opinions From A Former JAWS
Developer

Matthew,
I know there's at least one more camera that's used for OCR by the blind and
has a motion sensor like the PEARL. It's not the HoverCam, is it?

Gary King
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From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:03 PM
Subject: Pearl camera and others: was Re: Opinions From A Former JAWS
Developer


I agree that it's a shame the Pearl camera is locked down. I enjoy its
small footprint. There is one camera that works with both Kurzweil and
Openbook though, and that's the HoverCam. I'm sorry I don't have the
manufacturer. The results seem comparable, though the base of the
HoverCam is larger than the leaner portion of the unit in its bag, so
if a slightly odd-shaped item in your bag is a hinderence, then the
evenly-shaped Pearl might do a little better for you. That's probably a
minor concern for the most part though, but I thought I'd mention it.
The light on the HoverCam is a hardware switch, as opposed to the Pearl
camera's software switch with Control L. So that's my opinion or
overview, as a technology teacher at the Foundation For Blind
Children's adult services, here in Phoenix, where we recommend either
Kurzweil or Openbook, depending on what the client needs.
Matthew
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Re: Pearl camera and others: was Opinions FromAFormerJAWSDeveloper

Matthew Bullis <matthewbullis@...>
 

If you're still talking about the HoverCam, whose web page I've just recently given, then yes the HoverCam works with both Openbook and Kurzweil.
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Re: Pearl camera and others: was Opinions From AFormerJAWSDeveloper

Dave...
 

Juan,

Likely we are paying for the drivers to make it work with Openbook. Does the
Overhead work with Openbook?
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

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From: "Juan Pablo" <jpculasso@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: Pearl camera and others: was Re: Opinions From
AFormerJAWSDeveloper


The overcam is priced US$280. Is there really 600 dollars in the pearl to
purchase this one?
Best,
Juan.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary King
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:24 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Pearl camera and others: was Re: Opinions From A
FormerJAWSDeveloper

But Dave, if FS did that, you might stop paying for Open Book updates and
get something like OmniPage.

Gary King
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David G. Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pearl camera and others: was Re: Opinions From A Former
JAWSDeveloper


Matthew,

Yes, but what I'd like to see is that FS release the drivers for the Pearl
camera so that it can be used with other mainstream applications. Then it
would show up in their lists as a usable scanner device.

David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 8:03 PM
Subject: Pearl camera and others: was Re: Opinions From A Former JAWS
Developer


I agree that it's a shame the Pearl camera is locked down. I enjoy its
small
footprint. There is one camera that works with both Kurzweil and Openbook
though, and that's the HoverCam. I'm sorry I don't have the manufacturer.
The results seem comparable, though the base of the HoverCam is larger
than
the leaner portion of the unit in its bag, so if a slightly odd-shaped
item
in your bag is a hinderence, then the evenly-shaped Pearl might do a
little
better for you. That's probably a minor concern for the most part though,
but I thought I'd mention it. The light on the HoverCam is a hardware
switch, as opposed to the Pearl camera's software switch with Control L.
So
that's my opinion or overview, as a technology teacher at the Foundation
For
Blind Children's adult services, here in Phoenix, where we recommend
either
Kurzweil or Openbook, depending on what the client needs.
Matthew
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Re: Pearl camera and others: was Opinions From A FormerJAWSDeveloper

Juan Pablo <jpculasso@...>
 

The overcam is priced US$280. Is there really 600 dollars in the pearl to purchase this one?
Best,
Juan.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary King
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:24 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Pearl camera and others: was Re: Opinions From A FormerJAWSDeveloper

But Dave, if FS did that, you might stop paying for Open Book updates and
get something like OmniPage.

Gary King
w4wkz@...
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From: "David G. Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pearl camera and others: was Re: Opinions From A Former
JAWSDeveloper


Matthew,

Yes, but what I'd like to see is that FS release the drivers for the Pearl
camera so that it can be used with other mainstream applications. Then it
would show up in their lists as a usable scanner device.

David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 8:03 PM
Subject: Pearl camera and others: was Re: Opinions From A Former JAWS
Developer


I agree that it's a shame the Pearl camera is locked down. I enjoy its small
footprint. There is one camera that works with both Kurzweil and Openbook
though, and that's the HoverCam. I'm sorry I don't have the manufacturer.
The results seem comparable, though the base of the HoverCam is larger than
the leaner portion of the unit in its bag, so if a slightly odd-shaped item
in your bag is a hinderence, then the evenly-shaped Pearl might do a little
better for you. That's probably a minor concern for the most part though,
but I thought I'd mention it. The light on the HoverCam is a hardware
switch, as opposed to the Pearl camera's software switch with Control L. So
that's my opinion or overview, as a technology teacher at the Foundation For
Blind Children's adult services, here in Phoenix, where we recommend either
Kurzweil or Openbook, depending on what the client needs.
Matthew
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Re: Pearl camera and others: was Opinions From A Former JAWSDeveloper

Matthew Bullis <matthewbullis@...>
 

I believe that the HoverCam has a motion censor, but can't exactly be sure. I forget if I tested whether it sensed the flipping of pages and scanned the next picture, as that's not a feature I recommend users use even on Openbook. I recommend the pressing of the spacebar for the prompt to scan again.Here's the web page for the HoverCam:
http://www.thehovercam.com/products/hovercam-t5
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Re: Pearl camera and others: was Opinions From A FormerJAWSDeveloper

Dave...
 

Oh, of course. How could I be so dumb as to give away FS's profit margin on
hardware?

But then if FS simply charged a license fee for any third-party users for
the drivers, that would help.

David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: Pearl camera and others: was Re: Opinions From A
FormerJAWSDeveloper


But Dave, if FS did that, you might stop paying for Open Book updates and
get something like OmniPage.

Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "David G. Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pearl camera and others: was Re: Opinions From A Former
JAWSDeveloper


Matthew,

Yes, but what I'd like to see is that FS release the drivers for the Pearl
camera so that it can be used with other mainstream applications. Then it
would show up in their lists as a usable scanner device.

David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 8:03 PM
Subject: Pearl camera and others: was Re: Opinions From A Former JAWS
Developer


I agree that it's a shame the Pearl camera is locked down. I enjoy its
small
footprint. There is one camera that works with both Kurzweil and Openbook
though, and that's the HoverCam. I'm sorry I don't have the manufacturer.
The results seem comparable, though the base of the HoverCam is larger
than
the leaner portion of the unit in its bag, so if a slightly odd-shaped
item
in your bag is a hinderence, then the evenly-shaped Pearl might do a
little
better for you. That's probably a minor concern for the most part though,
but I thought I'd mention it. The light on the HoverCam is a hardware
switch, as opposed to the Pearl camera's software switch with Control L.
So
that's my opinion or overview, as a technology teacher at the Foundation
For
Blind Children's adult services, here in Phoenix, where we recommend
either
Kurzweil or Openbook, depending on what the client needs.
Matthew
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Re: Pearl camera and others: was Opinions From A Former JAWSDeveloper

Gary King
 

But Dave, if FS did that, you might stop paying for Open Book updates and get something like OmniPage.

Gary King
w4wkz@...

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From: "David G. Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pearl camera and others: was Re: Opinions From A Former JAWSDeveloper


Matthew,

Yes, but what I'd like to see is that FS release the drivers for the Pearl
camera so that it can be used with other mainstream applications. Then it
would show up in their lists as a usable scanner device.

David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 8:03 PM
Subject: Pearl camera and others: was Re: Opinions From A Former JAWS
Developer


I agree that it's a shame the Pearl camera is locked down. I enjoy its small
footprint. There is one camera that works with both Kurzweil and Openbook
though, and that's the HoverCam. I'm sorry I don't have the manufacturer.
The results seem comparable, though the base of the HoverCam is larger than
the leaner portion of the unit in its bag, so if a slightly odd-shaped item
in your bag is a hinderence, then the evenly-shaped Pearl might do a little
better for you. That's probably a minor concern for the most part though,
but I thought I'd mention it. The light on the HoverCam is a hardware
switch, as opposed to the Pearl camera's software switch with Control L. So
that's my opinion or overview, as a technology teacher at the Foundation For
Blind Children's adult services, here in Phoenix, where we recommend either
Kurzweil or Openbook, depending on what the client needs.
Matthew
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Re: Pearl camera and others: was Opinions From A Former JAWS Developer

Gary King
 

Matthew,
I know there's at least one more camera that's used for OCR by the blind and has a motion sensor like the PEARL. It's not the HoverCam, is it?

Gary King
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:03 PM
Subject: Pearl camera and others: was Re: Opinions From A Former JAWS Developer


I agree that it's a shame the Pearl camera is locked down. I enjoy its small footprint. There is one camera that works with both Kurzweil and Openbook though, and that's the HoverCam. I'm sorry I don't have the manufacturer. The results seem comparable, though the base of the HoverCam is larger than the leaner portion of the unit in its bag, so if a slightly odd-shaped item in your bag is a hinderence, then the evenly-shaped Pearl might do a little better for you. That's probably a minor concern for the most part though, but I thought I'd mention it. The light on the HoverCam is a hardware switch, as opposed to the Pearl camera's software switch with Control L. So that's my opinion or overview, as a technology teacher at the Foundation For Blind Children's adult services, here in Phoenix, where we recommend either Kurzweil or Openbook, depending on what the client needs.
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Re: Pearl camera and others: was Opinions From A Former JAWS Developer

Dave...
 

Matthew,

Yes, but what I'd like to see is that FS release the drivers for the Pearl
camera so that it can be used with other mainstream applications. Then it
would show up in their lists as a usable scanner device.

David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 8:03 PM
Subject: Pearl camera and others: was Re: Opinions From A Former JAWS
Developer


I agree that it's a shame the Pearl camera is locked down. I enjoy its small
footprint. There is one camera that works with both Kurzweil and Openbook
though, and that's the HoverCam. I'm sorry I don't have the manufacturer.
The results seem comparable, though the base of the HoverCam is larger than
the leaner portion of the unit in its bag, so if a slightly odd-shaped item
in your bag is a hinderence, then the evenly-shaped Pearl might do a little
better for you. That's probably a minor concern for the most part though,
but I thought I'd mention it. The light on the HoverCam is a hardware
switch, as opposed to the Pearl camera's software switch with Control L. So
that's my opinion or overview, as a technology teacher at the Foundation For
Blind Children's adult services, here in Phoenix, where we recommend either
Kurzweil or Openbook, depending on what the client needs.
Matthew
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Re: Opinions From A Former JAWS Developer

Gary King
 

Dave,
I hadn't looked at the price of the PEARL lately, but when you mentioned it, I checked and found it to be $795. As I recall FS was planning to sell the PEARL for $1200 after the introductory price period ran out. I guess they decided that price tag wasn't going to fly.

If you do happen to know of something like the PAC Mate that we can build for a few hundred and sell for a few thousand with a 10 to 1 profit, let me know.

Gary King
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From: "David G. Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: Opinions From A Former JAWS Developer


Gary,

So true. Since hardware does not have the same margins as does software, it
needs the capital to make it viable. I do like my Pearl camera -- it's
totally cool -- but other hardware I could do without.

So I must confess to having to donate most of my SMA to development of the
Pearl camera system.

...now if only they would allow other mainstream applications to use the
camera, that would be something they could really make money on with
licensing.

David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Opinions From A Former JAWS Developer


One item of information I found particularly interesting in the first
article is the high profit margin on hardware sales. It's no wonder that
Mr. Hamilton wanted to sell hardware when he became the CEO of FS. If you
read the article, you know where your SMA money went back then, and probably
still goes today. I wonder how much more JAWS could have been improved if
it had actually gone to JAWS improvement.

Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@...>
To: "JAWS For Windows Support List" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 9:47 PM
Subject: Opinions From A Former JAWS Developer


Those of you who have been wondering how JAWS has reached its current
state of development should read two articles written by a former head of
Software Engineering at Henter-Joyce and Freedom Scientific. Although he
left FS in November 2004, his knowledge of how things get done, or not
done, there still applies.

http://chrishofstader.com/the-death-of-screen-reader-innovation/

http://chrishofstader.com/screen-reader-failure-innovation-deterioration-despair/

Gary King
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Pearl camera and others: was Opinions From A Former JAWS Developer

Matthew Bullis <matthewbullis@...>
 

I agree that it's a shame the Pearl camera is locked down. I enjoy its small footprint. There is one camera that works with both Kurzweil and Openbook though, and that's the HoverCam. I'm sorry I don't have the manufacturer. The results seem comparable, though the base of the HoverCam is larger than the leaner portion of the unit in its bag, so if a slightly odd-shaped item in your bag is a hinderence, then the evenly-shaped Pearl might do a little better for you. That's probably a minor concern for the most part though, but I thought I'd mention it. The light on the HoverCam is a hardware switch, as opposed to the Pearl camera's software switch with Control L. So that's my opinion or overview, as a technology teacher at the Foundation For Blind Children's adult services, here in Phoenix, where we recommend either Kurzweil or Openbook, depending on what the client needs.
Matthew
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Re: Outlook 2010

Adrian Spratt
 

Karen,

1. In Outlook 2010, press control-d to delete while inside a message.

2. To return to the list box, press control-1, the 1 being the key in the number row above the letters.

Can you elaborate on why you believe turning off the preview pane might expose your system to viruses? I've had it turned off throughout my years of use of Outlook 2003 and 2010, as well as Outlook Express, without harm. It makes navigation so much easier.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:47 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Outlook 2010

Hi,
I am having trouble getting used to Outlook 2010. With 2003 I could press
delete while in the message and it would put it in the deleted folder. In
2010 it is not doing this. To delete it I have to be in the list box.
Sometimes to get back into the list box I have to press pageup several times
whereas before shift tab would put me back in the list box. It seems to go
up to the previous link not the list box. Is there a shortcut key to get me
back into the list box? And is there another way to delete the message while
in the preview pain reading the message as in 2003? I called FS about
reading messages and they recommend turning preview pain off and entering
the messages. The problem with this is that it is not very safe for
preventing viruses from getting on my computer.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Karen


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Re: Outlook 2010

Dave...
 

Use F6 from now on to switch back/forth between the list and the folders.
Happened in version 2007.
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Reynolds" <reynolds-karen@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 7:46 PM
Subject: Outlook 2010


Hi,
I am having trouble getting used to Outlook 2010. With 2003 I could press
delete while in the message and it would put it in the deleted folder. In
2010 it is not doing this. To delete it I have to be in the list box.
Sometimes to get back into the list box I have to press pageup several times
whereas before shift tab would put me back in the list box. It seems to go
up to the previous link not the list box. Is there a shortcut key to get me
back into the list box? And is there another way to delete the message while
in the preview pain reading the message as in 2003? I called FS about
reading messages and they recommend turning preview pain off and entering
the messages. The problem with this is that it is not very safe for
preventing viruses from getting on my computer.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Karen


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Re: Outlook 2010

Cy Selfridge
 

Try ctrl+D while in the message. This will put the message in the delete
folder.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 8:47 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Outlook 2010

Hi,
I am having trouble getting used to Outlook 2010. With 2003 I could press
delete while in the message and it would put it in the deleted folder. In
2010 it is not doing this. To delete it I have to be in the list box.
Sometimes to get back into the list box I have to press pageup several times
whereas before shift tab would put me back in the list box. It seems to go
up to the previous link not the list box. Is there a shortcut key to get me
back into the list box? And is there another way to delete the message while
in the preview pain reading the message as in 2003? I called FS about
reading messages and they recommend turning preview pain off and entering
the messages. The problem with this is that it is not very safe for
preventing viruses from getting on my computer.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Karen


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Outlook 2010

Karen Reynolds <reynolds-karen@...>
 

Hi,
I am having trouble getting used to Outlook 2010. With 2003 I could press
delete while in the message and it would put it in the deleted folder. In
2010 it is not doing this. To delete it I have to be in the list box.
Sometimes to get back into the list box I have to press pageup several times
whereas before shift tab would put me back in the list box. It seems to go
up to the previous link not the list box. Is there a shortcut key to get me
back into the list box? And is there another way to delete the message while
in the preview pain reading the message as in 2003? I called FS about
reading messages and they recommend turning preview pain off and entering
the messages. The problem with this is that it is not very safe for
preventing viruses from getting on my computer.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Karen


Re: address book help with windows 8 & outlook 2013

Louise Johnson <herclouise@...>
 

Hi I know that you posted this a while ago but last night I found a way to
pull up the address book.
Go and hit shift and control b then hit applications and then hit a and then
the first time you tab and find where name and hit space bar and then tab
until there's a word and then it says list and you will hear the first name
in the address book the second time hit tab once and you will go to the
list. To work in the hit application key and use the arrows and it will
help you I hope I haven't missed anything to help you pull up your address
book good luck if I can help any more please write me on list or here is my
email address herclouise@...
From Louise and Hawk

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: June 13, 2013 10:22 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: address book help with windows 8 & outlook 2013

Hi:



How do I choose someone from my address list like I used to be able from
Outlook Express when I can't remember an email address?



I have Windows 8, outlook 2013 & Jaws 14.





Sincerely,



Lauren



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Re: Opinions From A Former JAWS Developer

Dave...
 

Gary,

So true. Since hardware does not have the same margins as does software, it
needs the capital to make it viable. I do like my Pearl camera -- it's
totally cool -- but other hardware I could do without.

So I must confess to having to donate most of my SMA to development of the
Pearl camera system.

...now if only they would allow other mainstream applications to use the
camera, that would be something they could really make money on with
licensing.

David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Opinions From A Former JAWS Developer


One item of information I found particularly interesting in the first
article is the high profit margin on hardware sales. It's no wonder that
Mr. Hamilton wanted to sell hardware when he became the CEO of FS. If you
read the article, you know where your SMA money went back then, and probably
still goes today. I wonder how much more JAWS could have been improved if
it had actually gone to JAWS improvement.

Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@...>
To: "JAWS For Windows Support List" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 9:47 PM
Subject: Opinions From A Former JAWS Developer


Those of you who have been wondering how JAWS has reached its current
state of development should read two articles written by a former head of
Software Engineering at Henter-Joyce and Freedom Scientific. Although he
left FS in November 2004, his knowledge of how things get done, or not
done, there still applies.

http://chrishofstader.com/the-death-of-screen-reader-innovation/

http://chrishofstader.com/screen-reader-failure-innovation-deterioration-despair/

Gary King
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