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Re: accessible antivirus and spyware

Richard B. McDonald
 

I love VIPRE. It is totally accessible, fast and seamless. It is a highly
ranked antivirus program. I have used it for years on many computers, and
have never gotten infected. Check it out here:

http://www.gfi.com/business-antivirus-software

Best,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of johns.kary
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 3:40 AM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: accessable antivirus and spyware

Hi guys,
I switched to mac over 2 years ago now, and have hardly used JAWS or windows
since.
I recently had to get a windows computer for work, so have to start using
JAWS again.
I need a good antivirus and spyware program, I used to use avast but it's no
longer accessible.
Can someone tell me a good and affordable program that's completely
accessible with JAWS and that doesn't slow down or affect the running of
the laptop?

Thanks,
Kari.
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Re: accessable antivirus and spyware

don wardlow <wardlows97@...>
 

I use Microsoft Security Essentials, and one called Malware Bytes. Both are
JAWS-friendly.
Both are free.

You're damn right AVAST isn't JAWS-friendly. Not much is.
AVG isn't. that's what I have now, and my sighted wife has to run it, which
she wants no part of.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of johns.kary
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:40 AM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: accessable antivirus and spyware

Hi guys,
I switched to mac over 2 years ago now, and have hardly used JAWS or windows
since.
I recently had to get a windows computer for work, so have to start using
JAWS again.
I need a good antivirus and spyware program, I used to use avast but it's no
longer accessible.
Can someone tell me a good and affordable program that's completely
accessible with JAWS and that doesn't slow down or affect the running of
the laptop?

Thanks,
Kari.
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Re: working conditions in access tech industry (quality control)

Gerald Levy
 

And I repeat my original question: what does this have to do with JAWS? The list guidelines specifically forbid criticism of FS and its products. What part of these guidelines do you not understand? Again, I implore the list moderator to step in and get this list back on track.

Gerald

----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 2:42 AM
Subject: working conditions in access tech industry (quality control)


(The original question was about bad quality control vs. bad management.)

Instead of flaming him, I subsequently asked a highly annoyed G. Levy:
"Do you have any direct knowledge of working conditions within FS for their
developers or other technical workers?

Do you have any direct knowledge, other than as a consumer, of the business
practices of access tech companies?"

--

You then asked if I had any answers to the questions I asked, a rather peculiar request. If I had the answers, I would have stated them instead of the questions. Unless you suspect that I was asking rhetorical bullsh*t questions, which I was not.

I "suspect" that working at FS requires considerable moral compromise. Please correct me if wrong, but the story that has been told is that the founders left, or were pushed out. And all the competition died out. The most creative, dynamic, morally commited people that created the existing screen reader software industry were replaced by corporate bureaucrats by a foreign owner. Then quality plunged. Presumably high paid consultants and "life coaches" were brought in to do "team building" and "restructuring" to little or no effect.

The access tech market is generally an appalling mess (it has both bad and good elements), and has been for the 20+ years that I've been familiar with it. I have seen complete charlatans and very bad products. Exactly why it is a big mess remains to be explained. I do know that the behavior of organizations on the consumer side (many of which are taxpayer supported) is highly dysfunctional (access is promoted as much because of careerism of access and compliance bureaucrats as from altruism, principle or dedication to providing working conditions necessary to provide good tech support to disabled clients). Presumably the producers adapt to customer dysfunction. Eventually "style over substance" reigns.

It might be possible to "back into" an answer of sorts by thinking about why an "accessibility built in" movement is being promoted by some activists and scholars. Those activists would not be promoting "built in" accessibility unless there were problems with the current industry.

I was taught that the burden of democracy is constant vigilance. When public monies (or use of state police powers) are combined with the profit motives of private contractors, there is always the danger of corruption, malfeasance or organizational dysfunction.

Of course most of the disabled people here only want to get the sh*tty stuff that the government provides to them from the vendor working at least 1/2 a$$ correctly.

My understanding is that there is another JAWS support email list that is run by control freaks and thought police that refuse to condone any criticism of access vendors.

I do not know if that list provides higher quality specific advice about product problems/resolutions.

But, hey, maybe the frustrating problems that have gone unresolved through JAWS 11, 12 and 13 (Win7) will be solved in 14. Then I can go away happy and not bother Mr. Levy. Hope springs eternal.


have a nice day.

---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 22:14:48 -0700
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>)
Subject: Re: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

Then I would ask...do you have such knowledge?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 18:13
Subject: Re: A DICEY QUESTION


I apologize for any offense, regardless of how irrationally formulated it
was in the mind of the person taking the offense.

I fail to see the relevance of your post to the issues under discussion: the
dysfunctional nature of the access tech product market, and FS's role.

Do you have any direct knowledge of working conditions within FS for their
developers or other technical workers?

Do you have any direct knowledge, other than as a consumer, of the business
practices of access tech companies?

---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 19:03:37 -0400
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Gerald Levy"
<bwaylimited@verizon.net>)
Subject: Re: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>


Why don't you take your idiotic ramblings elsewhere and stop wasting our
time? If you have nothing constructive to add to this forum, then get
lost.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: A DICEY QUESTION


The quality control team at FS needs to go back to Kindergarten so that
the
proper steps of corporate quality control can be learned.
Why not blame bad management/ownership? They hired the developers and QC,
and place constraints on how their business is operated.

As an aside, defining good quality control as "corporate" is
questionable.
You proably meant "professional"?

I would argue that the specific "corporatist" model that is common in
"predatory" businesses (and has now been taken up in public agencies, the
educational system, etc.) is the source of poor quality, and poor
organizational performance in general.

The main characteristics of such dysfunctional organizations are: lack of
trust, unwillingness to be vulnerable and honest, lack of openness and
lack of transparency. In addition, an overfocus on money and abuse of
authority and power, are typical in such dysfunctional organizations, to
the detriment of authentic relationships, mutually shared value
commitments and local wisdom.

In short: these kinds of organizations and businesses abuse their workers
and customers.

(See M. Scott Peck's work for the original source of the above ideas.)

From a systems theory perspective, one suspects that the competitive
market for the product in question has been distorted, or corrupted.


---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 08:50:35 -0600
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Cy Selfridge"
<cyselfridge@comcast.net>)
Subject: RE: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
...

What many, many JAWS users are unhappy about is the fact that we get new
release after new release filled with bugs and things which used to work
and
now no longer do.
The quality control team at FS needs to go back to Kindergarten so that
the
proper steps of corporate quality control can be learned.
...

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accessable antivirus and spyware

johns.kary
 

Hi guys,
I switched to mac over 2 years ago now, and have hardly used JAWS or windows since.
I recently had to get a windows computer for work, so have to start using JAWS again.
I need a good antivirus and spyware program, I used to use avast but it's no longer accessible.
Can someone tell me a good and affordable program that's completely accessible with JAWS and that doesn't slow down or affect the running of the laptop?

Thanks,
Kari.


Re: Auto numbering

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

Couldn't agree with Tom more on this.
It is always better to use styles for numbering and bullets.
Some, however, actually like the auto numbered lists. You should be able to stop auto numbering by switching the style.
For instance, if you want to switch to body text with the first line indented (no numbering), just press control plus shift plus s. Then arrow down or press the letter b until you hit the right flavor of body text.
In the alternative, you could go back to normal style with control plus shift plus n.
As yet another option, you could jump to a paragraph which is formatted the way you like it, press control plus shift plus c to copy the format; jump to the paragraph where you want to stop auto numbering, and press control plus shift v to paste the formatting you just copied.
Lots of options.
Microsoft itself recommends styles over direct formatting like the auto numbered lists.
I may be a little prejudiced because when I want paragraphs to be numbered, they are in outline form at least three levels deep. If you use the heading styles to do the numbering, then control plus alt plus 1 applies heading 1; alt plus control plus 2 applies heading level 2 and alt plus control plus 3 applies heading level 3. In that way, you can quickly and easily have paragraphs or sections that look like the following:
1. Top level Section.
This is big picture stuff.
1.1
This is specific stuff that relates to the topic under consideration (usually in a contract) under the subject discussed at heading level 1.
(a) This is even more specific stuff which relates to that discussed under heading level 2.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 12:07 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Auto numbering

Hey Robert,
Not sure about the auto-capitalization. As for the automatic numbered
lists, assuming that things work as they do in Word 2007, you need to:
1. Open the File menu and go into Word Options.
2. Arrow down to the Proofing tab.
3. Tab to and activate the Autocorrect button.
4. Find Autoformat As You Type and activate that.
5. Uncheck the option for automatic numbered lists. You can do that for
automatic bulleted lists, too, while your at it. Both are a pain in the
butt and better dispensed with.

Hope this helps.

Tom


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Stigile" <rstigile@gmail.com>
To: "List Jaws" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 8:24 PM
Subject: Auto numbering


Hello All,
Can someone tell me how you tell me to turn off auto numbering and auto
capitalization when working with a word 2010 document.
Thanks,


Robert Stigile
E-mail: rstigile@sbcglobal.net
Skype: robertstigile1

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Re: working conditions in access tech industry (quality control)

cecropia64
 

no insult intended but you're just alittle long-winded. i don't think we need this long thing about all of this. keep it short. works better by the way, if anyone wanted all this, we could've looked it up if interested.

----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 2:42 AM
Subject: working conditions in access tech industry (quality control)


(The original question was about bad quality control vs. bad management.)

Instead of flaming him, I subsequently asked a highly annoyed G. Levy:
"Do you have any direct knowledge of working conditions within FS for their
developers or other technical workers?

Do you have any direct knowledge, other than as a consumer, of the business
practices of access tech companies?"

--

You then asked if I had any answers to the questions I asked, a rather peculiar request. If I had the answers, I would have stated them instead of the questions. Unless you suspect that I was asking rhetorical bullsh*t questions, which I was not.

I "suspect" that working at FS requires considerable moral compromise. Please correct me if wrong, but the story that has been told is that the founders left, or were pushed out. And all the competition died out. The most creative, dynamic, morally commited people that created the existing screen reader software industry were replaced by corporate bureaucrats by a foreign owner. Then quality plunged. Presumably high paid consultants and "life coaches" were brought in to do "team building" and "restructuring" to little or no effect.

The access tech market is generally an appalling mess (it has both bad and good elements), and has been for the 20+ years that I've been familiar with it. I have seen complete charlatans and very bad products. Exactly why it is a big mess remains to be explained. I do know that the behavior of organizations on the consumer side (many of which are taxpayer supported) is highly dysfunctional (access is promoted as much because of careerism of access and compliance bureaucrats as from altruism, principle or dedication to providing working conditions necessary to provide good tech support to disabled clients). Presumably the producers adapt to customer dysfunction. Eventually "style over substance" reigns.

It might be possible to "back into" an answer of sorts by thinking about why an "accessibility built in" movement is being promoted by some activists and scholars. Those activists would not be promoting "built in" accessibility unless there were problems with the current industry.

I was taught that the burden of democracy is constant vigilance. When public monies (or use of state police powers) are combined with the profit motives of private contractors, there is always the danger of corruption, malfeasance or organizational dysfunction.

Of course most of the disabled people here only want to get the sh*tty stuff that the government provides to them from the vendor working at least 1/2 a$$ correctly.

My understanding is that there is another JAWS support email list that is run by control freaks and thought police that refuse to condone any criticism of access vendors.

I do not know if that list provides higher quality specific advice about product problems/resolutions.

But, hey, maybe the frustrating problems that have gone unresolved through JAWS 11, 12 and 13 (Win7) will be solved in 14. Then I can go away happy and not bother Mr. Levy. Hope springs eternal.


have a nice day.

---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 22:14:48 -0700
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>)
Subject: Re: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

Then I would ask...do you have such knowledge?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 18:13
Subject: Re: A DICEY QUESTION


I apologize for any offense, regardless of how irrationally formulated it
was in the mind of the person taking the offense.

I fail to see the relevance of your post to the issues under discussion: the
dysfunctional nature of the access tech product market, and FS's role.

Do you have any direct knowledge of working conditions within FS for their
developers or other technical workers?

Do you have any direct knowledge, other than as a consumer, of the business
practices of access tech companies?

---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 19:03:37 -0400
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Gerald Levy"
<bwaylimited@verizon.net>)
Subject: Re: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>


Why don't you take your idiotic ramblings elsewhere and stop wasting our
time? If you have nothing constructive to add to this forum, then get
lost.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: A DICEY QUESTION


The quality control team at FS needs to go back to Kindergarten so that
the
proper steps of corporate quality control can be learned.
Why not blame bad management/ownership? They hired the developers and QC,
and place constraints on how their business is operated.

As an aside, defining good quality control as "corporate" is
questionable.
You proably meant "professional"?

I would argue that the specific "corporatist" model that is common in
"predatory" businesses (and has now been taken up in public agencies, the
educational system, etc.) is the source of poor quality, and poor
organizational performance in general.

The main characteristics of such dysfunctional organizations are: lack of
trust, unwillingness to be vulnerable and honest, lack of openness and
lack of transparency. In addition, an overfocus on money and abuse of
authority and power, are typical in such dysfunctional organizations, to
the detriment of authentic relationships, mutually shared value
commitments and local wisdom.

In short: these kinds of organizations and businesses abuse their workers
and customers.

(See M. Scott Peck's work for the original source of the above ideas.)

From a systems theory perspective, one suspects that the competitive
market for the product in question has been distorted, or corrupted.


---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 08:50:35 -0600
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Cy Selfridge"
<cyselfridge@comcast.net>)
Subject: RE: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
...

What many, many JAWS users are unhappy about is the fact that we get new
release after new release filled with bugs and things which used to work
and
now no longer do.
The quality control team at FS needs to go back to Kindergarten so that
the
proper steps of corporate quality control can be learned.
...

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working conditions in access tech industry (quality control)

epierce@...
 

(The original question was about bad quality control vs. bad management.)

Instead of flaming him, I subsequently asked a highly annoyed G. Levy:
"Do you have any direct knowledge of working conditions within FS for their
developers or other technical workers?

Do you have any direct knowledge, other than as a consumer, of the business
practices of access tech companies?"

--

You then asked if I had any answers to the questions I asked, a rather peculiar request. If I had the answers, I would have stated them instead of the questions. Unless you suspect that I was asking rhetorical bullsh*t questions, which I was not.

I "suspect" that working at FS requires considerable moral compromise. Please correct me if wrong, but the story that has been told is that the founders left, or were pushed out. And all the competition died out. The most creative, dynamic, morally commited people that created the existing screen reader software industry were replaced by corporate bureaucrats by a foreign owner. Then quality plunged. Presumably high paid consultants and "life coaches" were brought in to do "team building" and "restructuring" to little or no effect.

The access tech market is generally an appalling mess (it has both bad and good elements), and has been for the 20+ years that I've been familiar with it. I have seen complete charlatans and very bad products. Exactly why it is a big mess remains to be explained. I do know that the behavior of organizations on the consumer side (many of which are taxpayer supported) is highly dysfunctional (access is promoted as much because of careerism of access and compliance bureaucrats as from altruism, principle or dedication to providing working conditions necessary to provide good tech support to disabled clients). Presumably the producers adapt to customer dysfunction. Eventually "style over substance" reigns.

It might be possible to "back into" an answer of sorts by thinking about why an "accessibility built in" movement is being promoted by some activists and scholars. Those activists would not be promoting "built in" accessibility unless there were problems with the current industry.

I was taught that the burden of democracy is constant vigilance. When public monies (or use of state police powers) are combined with the profit motives of private contractors, there is always the danger of corruption, malfeasance or organizational dysfunction.

Of course most of the disabled people here only want to get the sh*tty stuff that the government provides to them from the vendor working at least 1/2 a$$ correctly.

My understanding is that there is another JAWS support email list that is run by control freaks and thought police that refuse to condone any criticism of access vendors.

I do not know if that list provides higher quality specific advice about product problems/resolutions.

But, hey, maybe the frustrating problems that have gone unresolved through JAWS 11, 12 and 13 (Win7) will be solved in 14. Then I can go away happy and not bother Mr. Levy. Hope springs eternal.


have a nice day.

---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 22:14:48 -0700
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>)
Subject: Re: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

Then I would ask...do you have such knowledge?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 18:13
Subject: Re: A DICEY QUESTION


I apologize for any offense, regardless of how irrationally formulated it
was in the mind of the person taking the offense.

I fail to see the relevance of your post to the issues under discussion: the
dysfunctional nature of the access tech product market, and FS's role.

Do you have any direct knowledge of working conditions within FS for their
developers or other technical workers?

Do you have any direct knowledge, other than as a consumer, of the business
practices of access tech companies?

---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 19:03:37 -0400
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Gerald Levy"
<bwaylimited@verizon.net>)
Subject: Re: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>


Why don't you take your idiotic ramblings elsewhere and stop wasting our
time? If you have nothing constructive to add to this forum, then get
lost.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: A DICEY QUESTION


The quality control team at FS needs to go back to Kindergarten so that
the
proper steps of corporate quality control can be learned.
Why not blame bad management/ownership? They hired the developers and QC,
and place constraints on how their business is operated.

As an aside, defining good quality control as "corporate" is
questionable.
You proably meant "professional"?

I would argue that the specific "corporatist" model that is common in
"predatory" businesses (and has now been taken up in public agencies, the
educational system, etc.) is the source of poor quality, and poor
organizational performance in general.

The main characteristics of such dysfunctional organizations are: lack of
trust, unwillingness to be vulnerable and honest, lack of openness and
lack of transparency. In addition, an overfocus on money and abuse of
authority and power, are typical in such dysfunctional organizations, to
the detriment of authentic relationships, mutually shared value
commitments and local wisdom.

In short: these kinds of organizations and businesses abuse their workers
and customers.

(See M. Scott Peck's work for the original source of the above ideas.)

From a systems theory perspective, one suspects that the competitive
market for the product in question has been distorted, or corrupted.


---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 08:50:35 -0600
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Cy Selfridge"
<cyselfridge@comcast.net>)
Subject: RE: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
...

What many, many JAWS users are unhappy about is the fact that we get new
release after new release filled with bugs and things which used to work
and
now no longer do.
The quality control team at FS needs to go back to Kindergarten so that
the
proper steps of corporate quality control can be learned.
...


Re: Jaws and WordPress?

Stephanie Switzer
 

I use wordpress.com which is the web-hosting site. I use HTML when I
post links. If you want I can send you the instructions that I have
that tells you how to do it.

On 7/7/12, Chris Smart <csmart8@cogeco.ca> wrote:
Do any of you blog using Wordpress? If so, do you have any tips on
how to imbed links in your posts, format them so they are more
appealing visually?

I'm using Jaws 13 and the latest Firefox.

Feel free to write me about this off-list, if you think it doesn't
belong here.

thanks
Chris
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Re: A DICEY QUESTION

Dave...
 

Then I would ask...do you have such knowledge?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 18:13
Subject: Re: A DICEY QUESTION


I apologize for any offense, regardless of how irrationally formulated it
was in the mind of the person taking the offense.

I fail to see the relevance of your post to the issues under discussion: the
dysfunctional nature of the access tech product market, and FS's role.

Do you have any direct knowledge of working conditions within FS for their
developers or other technical workers?

Do you have any direct knowledge, other than as a consumer, of the business
practices of access tech companies?

---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 19:03:37 -0400
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Gerald Levy"
<bwaylimited@verizon.net>)
Subject: Re: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>


Why don't you take your idiotic ramblings elsewhere and stop wasting our
time? If you have nothing constructive to add to this forum, then get
lost.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: A DICEY QUESTION


The quality control team at FS needs to go back to Kindergarten so that
the
proper steps of corporate quality control can be learned.
Why not blame bad management/ownership? They hired the developers and QC,
and place constraints on how their business is operated.

As an aside, defining good quality control as "corporate" is
questionable.
You proably meant "professional"?

I would argue that the specific "corporatist" model that is common in
"predatory" businesses (and has now been taken up in public agencies, the
educational system, etc.) is the source of poor quality, and poor
organizational performance in general.

The main characteristics of such dysfunctional organizations are: lack of
trust, unwillingness to be vulnerable and honest, lack of openness and
lack of transparency. In addition, an overfocus on money and abuse of
authority and power, are typical in such dysfunctional organizations, to
the detriment of authentic relationships, mutually shared value
commitments and local wisdom.

In short: these kinds of organizations and businesses abuse their workers
and customers.

(See M. Scott Peck's work for the original source of the above ideas.)

From a systems theory perspective, one suspects that the competitive
market for the product in question has been distorted, or corrupted.


---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 08:50:35 -0600
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Cy Selfridge"
<cyselfridge@comcast.net>)
Subject: RE: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
...

What many, many JAWS users are unhappy about is the fact that we get new
release after new release filled with bugs and things which used to work
and
now no longer do.
The quality control team at FS needs to go back to Kindergarten so that
the
proper steps of corporate quality control can be learned.
...

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Re: Auto numbering

Tom Lange
 

Hey Robert,
Not sure about the auto-capitalization. As for the automatic numbered lists, assuming that things work as they do in Word 2007, you need to:
1. Open the File menu and go into Word Options.
2. Arrow down to the Proofing tab.
3. Tab to and activate the Autocorrect button.
4. Find Autoformat As You Type and activate that.
5. Uncheck the option for automatic numbered lists. You can do that for automatic bulleted lists, too, while your at it. Both are a pain in the butt and better dispensed with.

Hope this helps.

Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Stigile" <rstigile@gmail.com>
To: "List Jaws" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 8:24 PM
Subject: Auto numbering


Hello All,
Can someone tell me how you tell me to turn off auto numbering and auto capitalization when working with a word 2010 document.
Thanks,


Robert Stigile
E-mail: rstigile@sbcglobal.net
Skype: robertstigile1

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Auto numbering

Robert Stigile <rstigile@...>
 

Hello All,
Can someone tell me how you tell me to turn off auto numbering and auto capitalization when working with a word 2010 document.
Thanks,


Robert Stigile
E-mail: rstigile@sbcglobal.net
Skype: robertstigile1


Re: A DICEY QUESTION

epierce@...
 

What happens if someone is offended that you are offended?

What happens if someone is offended that someone else asked that a thread be closed?

---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 19:20:08 -0600
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of Matt Dierckens <matt.dierckens@gmail.com>)
Subject: Re: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

Folks, if this whole bashing continues, I'm leaning closer and closer off this list.
This is a JFW list, not a bashing war.
Seriously people. This topic was asked to be, closed. I think that we should respect their wishes, and close the thread. Thank you.
...


Re: A DICEY QUESTION

Matt Dierckens <matt.dierckens@...>
 

Folks, if this whole bashing continues, I'm leaning closer and closer off this list.
This is a JFW list, not a bashing war.
Seriously people. This topic was asked to be, closed. I think that we should respect their wishes, and close the thread. Thank you.

Matt
Sent from my mac
Twitter: matt692
msn: matt692@live.com
skype: blindman3221

On 2012-07-07, at 7:13 PM, <epierce@surewest.net> wrote:

I apologize for any offense, regardless of how irrationally formulated it was in the mind of the person taking the offense.

I fail to see the relevance of your post to the issues under discussion: the dysfunctional nature of the access tech product market, and FS's role.

Do you have any direct knowledge of working conditions within FS for their developers or other technical workers?

Do you have any direct knowledge, other than as a consumer, of the business practices of access tech companies?

---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 19:03:37 -0400
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>)
Subject: Re: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>


Why don't you take your idiotic ramblings elsewhere and stop wasting our
time? If you have nothing constructive to add to this forum, then get lost.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: A DICEY QUESTION


The quality control team at FS needs to go back to Kindergarten so that
the
proper steps of corporate quality control can be learned.
Why not blame bad management/ownership? They hired the developers and QC,
and place constraints on how their business is operated.

As an aside, defining good quality control as "corporate" is questionable.
You proably meant "professional"?

I would argue that the specific "corporatist" model that is common in
"predatory" businesses (and has now been taken up in public agencies, the
educational system, etc.) is the source of poor quality, and poor
organizational performance in general.

The main characteristics of such dysfunctional organizations are: lack of
trust, unwillingness to be vulnerable and honest, lack of openness and
lack of transparency. In addition, an overfocus on money and abuse of
authority and power, are typical in such dysfunctional organizations, to
the detriment of authentic relationships, mutually shared value
commitments and local wisdom.

In short: these kinds of organizations and businesses abuse their workers
and customers.

(See M. Scott Peck's work for the original source of the above ideas.)

From a systems theory perspective, one suspects that the competitive
market for the product in question has been distorted, or corrupted.


---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 08:50:35 -0600
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Cy Selfridge"
<cyselfridge@comcast.net>)
Subject: RE: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
...

What many, many JAWS users are unhappy about is the fact that we get new
release after new release filled with bugs and things which used to work
and
now no longer do.
The quality control team at FS needs to go back to Kindergarten so that
the
proper steps of corporate quality control can be learned.
...

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Re: A DICEY QUESTION

epierce@...
 

I apologize for any offense, regardless of how irrationally formulated it was in the mind of the person taking the offense.

I fail to see the relevance of your post to the issues under discussion: the dysfunctional nature of the access tech product market, and FS's role.

Do you have any direct knowledge of working conditions within FS for their developers or other technical workers?

Do you have any direct knowledge, other than as a consumer, of the business practices of access tech companies?

---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 19:03:37 -0400
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>)
Subject: Re: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>


Why don't you take your idiotic ramblings elsewhere and stop wasting our
time? If you have nothing constructive to add to this forum, then get lost.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: A DICEY QUESTION


The quality control team at FS needs to go back to Kindergarten so that
the
proper steps of corporate quality control can be learned.
Why not blame bad management/ownership? They hired the developers and QC,
and place constraints on how their business is operated.

As an aside, defining good quality control as "corporate" is questionable.
You proably meant "professional"?

I would argue that the specific "corporatist" model that is common in
"predatory" businesses (and has now been taken up in public agencies, the
educational system, etc.) is the source of poor quality, and poor
organizational performance in general.

The main characteristics of such dysfunctional organizations are: lack of
trust, unwillingness to be vulnerable and honest, lack of openness and
lack of transparency. In addition, an overfocus on money and abuse of
authority and power, are typical in such dysfunctional organizations, to
the detriment of authentic relationships, mutually shared value
commitments and local wisdom.

In short: these kinds of organizations and businesses abuse their workers
and customers.

(See M. Scott Peck's work for the original source of the above ideas.)

From a systems theory perspective, one suspects that the competitive
market for the product in question has been distorted, or corrupted.


---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 08:50:35 -0600
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Cy Selfridge"
<cyselfridge@comcast.net>)
Subject: RE: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
...

What many, many JAWS users are unhappy about is the fact that we get new
release after new release filled with bugs and things which used to work
and
now no longer do.
The quality control team at FS needs to go back to Kindergarten so that
the
proper steps of corporate quality control can be learned.
...


JFW 12, 13, and Papenmeyer Displays

Dani Pagador
 

Hi, Everyone.
I have JFW 11 through 13 on my Windows 7 computer. I'm using a Papenmeyer
BrailleX Trio and notice that with versions 12 and 13 I can't use the easy
access bar or the buttons to the left or the right of the braille display
anymore to do anything. The only things that work in these versions are the
40-cell display itself and the cursor routing buttons. So if I want full use
of the braille display, I have to switch back from 13 to 11, which is a pain
in the patuti if I need to work in Office or with a webpage that doesn't
work well with 11 (case in point is the NLS web page where JFW 11 can't find
the Search button to start the search for book titles--Ctrl+b doesn't do it
for anything.)
Is anyone else experiencing this problem? I don't think it's a driver issue,
because I've installed the latest driver and still get nill on the usability
of the easy access bar or navigation keys.
More Later,
Dani


Re: A DICEY QUESTION

Gerald Levy
 

Why don't you take your idiotic ramblings elsewhere and stop wasting our time? If you have nothing constructive to add to this forum, then get lost.

Gerald

----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: A DICEY QUESTION


The quality control team at FS needs to go back to Kindergarten so that the
proper steps of corporate quality control can be learned.
Why not blame bad management/ownership? They hired the developers and QC, and place constraints on how their business is operated.

As an aside, defining good quality control as "corporate" is questionable. You proably meant "professional"?

I would argue that the specific "corporatist" model that is common in "predatory" businesses (and has now been taken up in public agencies, the educational system, etc.) is the source of poor quality, and poor organizational performance in general.

The main characteristics of such dysfunctional organizations are: lack of trust, unwillingness to be vulnerable and honest, lack of openness and lack of transparency. In addition, an overfocus on money and abuse of authority and power, are typical in such dysfunctional organizations, to the detriment of authentic relationships, mutually shared value commitments and local wisdom.

In short: these kinds of organizations and businesses abuse their workers and customers.

(See M. Scott Peck's work for the original source of the above ideas.)

From a systems theory perspective, one suspects that the competitive market for the product in question has been distorted, or corrupted.


---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 08:50:35 -0600
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@comcast.net>)
Subject: RE: A DICEY QUESTION
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
...

What many, many JAWS users are unhappy about is the fact that we get new
release after new release filled with bugs and things which used to work and
now no longer do.
The quality control team at FS needs to go back to Kindergarten so that the
proper steps of corporate quality control can be learned.
...


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Re: Emphasis on Exclamations.

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,

I just found what I was looking for in Openbook. In General Settings /
Speech Settings, there is an option called, reading voice inflection. I
think this was what I thought was the option for changing the emphasis
setting.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my iLazyBoy.


Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my iLazyBoy.

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 2:37 PM
Subject: RE: Emphasis on Exclamations.


I remember in recent years a JAWS update added a pause after semicolons
and
colons, which I (and surely many others) had advocated. Unfortunately,
that
improvement didn't work with my Dectalk Express synthesizer. I don't
recall
any enhancement involving exclamation marks.

When I think about it, I wonder what aspect of an exclamation mark the
synthesizer would capture. An exclamation showing surprise? Irony? Gotcha?
An parade sergeant's command?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 5:24 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Emphasis on Exclamations.

Hi Spence,

It seems to me that Jaws used to have an option to change the emphasis. I
could be wrong but, maybe someone can find it somewhere, because I sure
can't. May be this in Openbook but, I know I have seen it somewhere in 1
of
the 2 programs! I looked in Jaws options& the configuration manager /
Settings Center in Jaws6,10,12, & 13 & didn't find it anywhere. I am
mentioning this to hopefully trigger someone's memory on this option.
Take
care.
Mike
This email was sent from my iLazyBoy.

----- Original Message -----
From: Soronel Haetir
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Emphasis on Exclamations.


If there is, I haven't seen it, I do know the sort of behavior you
desire would be very dependent upon the synthesizer in use.

On 7/7/12, Spencer McLean <smclean@csy.ca> wrote:
> I'd like to have Jaws give a bit more oomph to exclamation points.
The
> response is so flat that, without pronunciation on, I usually can't
tell

if
>
> one has been used. the response for question marks is fantastic, so
I'm
> presuming that there's a setting to lend exclamations a bit more kick,
> presuming or hopeful. Anyone ever played with this?
>
> Spence
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
>


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Re: Wildcards in Dictionary.

Adrian Spratt
 

Thank you for this post. I'd forgotten all about it, and it would have been
helpful many times over.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Bill Spiry
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 4:09 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Wildcards in Dictionary.

Found that use of wildcard in JDF is very limited. Only as follows:
Root Word Pronunciation Changes
Dictionary Manager also lets you specify the root of a word, and have all
the extensions of it pronounced correctly. So with one entry, you could
change the pronunciation of "reposition," "repositioning," and
"repositions." Just follow the steps above, but add an asterisk (*) at the
end of the word in the Actual Word edit box within Dictionary Manager. Type
in the replacement word as normal. For example, type "reposition*" in the
Actual Word edit box, and type "re position" in the Replacement Word edit
box.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Spiry [mailto:b.s.spiry@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 7:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Wildcards in Dictionary.

I posed this question to support@freedomscientific.com a few days ago and
have not yet heard. When I do, I'll try to remember to post.
I

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Spencer McLean
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 6:37 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Wildcards in Dictionary.

Does anyone know if it's possible to use wildcards in the Jaws
dictionary? I find that many news outlets, when reporting monetary figures,
will go with $1BN for one billion, but obviously that's kind of messed up
for us. I'd like to be able to put the number first, followed by he billion,
followed by the dollar, but I've tried ~ and * and neither appear to grant
any joy. Ideas?

Spence


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Re: Emphasis on Exclamations.

Adrian Spratt
 

I remember in recent years a JAWS update added a pause after semicolons and
colons, which I (and surely many others) had advocated. Unfortunately, that
improvement didn't work with my Dectalk Express synthesizer. I don't recall
any enhancement involving exclamation marks.

When I think about it, I wonder what aspect of an exclamation mark the
synthesizer would capture. An exclamation showing surprise? Irony? Gotcha?
An parade sergeant's command?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 5:24 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Emphasis on Exclamations.

Hi Spence,

It seems to me that Jaws used to have an option to change the emphasis. I
could be wrong but, maybe someone can find it somewhere, because I sure
can't. May be this in Openbook but, I know I have seen it somewhere in 1 of
the 2 programs! I looked in Jaws options& the configuration manager /
Settings Center in Jaws6,10,12, & 13 & didn't find it anywhere. I am
mentioning this to hopefully trigger someone's memory on this option. Take
care.
Mike
This email was sent from my iLazyBoy.

----- Original Message -----
From: Soronel Haetir
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Emphasis on Exclamations.


If there is, I haven't seen it, I do know the sort of behavior you
desire would be very dependent upon the synthesizer in use.

On 7/7/12, Spencer McLean <smclean@csy.ca> wrote:
> I'd like to have Jaws give a bit more oomph to exclamation points. The
> response is so flat that, without pronunciation on, I usually can't tell

if
>
> one has been used. the response for question marks is fantastic, so I'm
> presuming that there's a setting to lend exclamations a bit more kick,
> presuming or hopeful. Anyone ever played with this?
>
> Spence
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
>


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Re: Emphasis on Exclamations.

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Spence,

It seems to me that Jaws used to have an option to change the emphasis. I
could be wrong but, maybe someone can find it somewhere, because I sure
can't. May be this in Openbook but, I know I have seen it somewhere in 1 of
the 2 programs! I looked in Jaws options& the configuration manager /
Settings Center in Jaws6,10,12, & 13 & didn't find it anywhere. I am
mentioning this to hopefully trigger someone's memory on this option. Take
care.
Mike
This email was sent from my iLazyBoy.

----- Original Message -----
From: Soronel Haetir
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Emphasis on Exclamations.


If there is, I haven't seen it, I do know the sort of behavior you
desire would be very dependent upon the synthesizer in use.

On 7/7/12, Spencer McLean <smclean@csy.ca> wrote:
> I'd like to have Jaws give a bit more oomph to exclamation points. The
> response is so flat that, without pronunciation on, I usually can't tell
if
>
> one has been used. the response for question marks is fantastic, so I'm
> presuming that there's a setting to lend exclamations a bit more kick,
> presuming or hopeful. Anyone ever played with this?
>
> Spence
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
>


--
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