Hi Stephen,

I called Vispero, who confirmed the extension is broken with NVDA and JAWS. The agent helping me said it looks like a Chrome update, or an update to the Wordle extension broke accessibility with multiple screen readers.  She advised trying the following link, while the extension is running.

https://www.possiblepromise.com/wordle

After configuring the 3 JAWS settings for this page, everything worked perfectly.  The problem is that the game on that page doesn’t appear to be synced with the NY Times page (e.g. yesterday’s word was already on the NY Times page.

The person at Vispero asked if I had contacted the developer of the extension; I hadn’t at that point, but have since posted a review in the Chrome Web Store, and sent an E-mail to the publisher via the Chrome Web Store.  Although there are 836 users of the extension, mine was the only review.  Perhaps others might submit a review and/or send a message to the publisher, in order to bring attention to the problem.

Katrina

Hi List

I’ve also found this issue with Wordle and in my case nothing to do with Jaws updates. Tried with two browsers and two screen readers. Any solutions appreciated, however I think something must have changed on the site to break the extension.

SB

I updated JAWS 22 this morning so have the latest running on my Windows 10 laptop.  I wonder if something in the JAWS update negatively impacted the Wordle Chrome extension, because everything worked perfectly last night, prior to the update, but sadly that is no longer the case.

I confirmed the “Make Wordle Accessible” extension is added to Chrome, and that it is enabled.  However, when on the New York Times Wordle page, JAWS doesn’t report that it is active (can’t recall the exact wording of that).  I confirmed the 3 JAWS settings for that page are properly set.  I tried many different things like disabling the extension and then enabling it, removing the extension and adding it again, unloading JAWS and reloading it, restarting the computer, etc.  No success!

Any thoughts as to what is happening?  I guess I can call, but thought I’d check here first.

Katrina  

Okay, there’s only one item in my system trey and when I try and go to my start menu by typing start menu into the run dialog box it brings up file explorer and then a message saying that this location isn’t available. I did a search for disk clean-up in the search box I had trouble accessing it.

Follow these steps:

If using the laptop keyboard layout your modifier key is the Shift Lock. On a desktop keyboard layout, to get to the system tray, use the Jaws/Insert key on the numpad and press F11. Arrow down and see what is in the system tray.

Another problem you could be having is a need to run a Disk Cleanup for there could be a lot of stuff that has been accumulating on your hard drive that you don’t need.

To runDisk Cleanup go to your Start Menu and type Disk Cleanup and press enter. Go through the checkboxes and wherever you see numbers of files that have accumulated, make sure that the checkbox is check. Tab over to run the disk cleanup and follow the prompts. This will help.

After doing that you need to check to see if you are up-to-date with Windows and your Office Suite.

As far as I can tell I don’t have anything pinned to the taskbar; I’m still not sure how to get to the system trey though…

One way is to tab to it—you should hear taskbar.

Ok, then tell us what applications are in your system tray and what is pinned to the taskbar.

You don’t answer my questions people on this list may not be able to help.

Okay, howdo I find out what apps are pinned to my taskbar and which apps are in the system trey? Sorry but I’ve never done anything with either other then setting Jaws to not run from the system trey

Maddison,

Can you tell us what programs are being loaded in the System Tray?

Also, can you tell us what programs do you have pinned to your Taskbar?

It might be that you have unnecessary programs in the System Tray that you don’t need running and too many programs that are pinned to the Taskbar.

Hi all,

I’ve noticed that sometimes when I open a message that Jaws goes silent but yet when I arrow through it the contents still show up on my braille display; any idea what could be causing this and what I could do to resolve this? It happens randomly which makes it weirder and harder to know when it’ll happen. Using latest versions of Jaws, Microsoft 365 and Windows 11.

Madison

Follow these steps:

If using the laptop keyboard layout your modifier key is the Shift Lock. On a desktop keyboard layout, to get to the system tray, use the Jaws/Insert key on the numpad and press F11. Arrow down and see what is in the system tray.

Another problem you could be having is a need to run a Disk Cleanup for there could be a lot of stuff that has been accumulating on your hard drive that you don’t need.

To runDisk Cleanup go to your Start Menu and type Disk Cleanup and press enter. Go through the checkboxes and wherever you see numbers of files that have accumulated, make sure that the checkbox is check. Tab over to run the disk cleanup and follow the prompts. This will help.

After doing that you need to check to see if you are up-to-date with Windows and your Office Suite.

As far as I can tell I don’t have anything pinned to the taskbar; I’m still not sure how to get to the system trey though…

One way is to tab to it—you should hear taskbar.

Ok, then tell us what applications are in your system tray and what is pinned to the taskbar.

You don’t answer my questions people on this list may not be able to help.

Okay, howdo I find out what apps are pinned to my taskbar and which apps are in the system trey? Sorry but I’ve never done anything with either other then setting Jaws to not run from the system trey

Maddison,

Can you tell us what programs are being loaded in the System Tray?

Also, can you tell us what programs do you have pinned to your Taskbar?

It might be that you have unnecessary programs in the System Tray that you don’t need running and too many programs that are pinned to the Taskbar.

Hi all,

I’ve noticed that sometimes when I open a message that Jaws goes silent but yet when I arrow through it the contents still show up on my braille display; any idea what could be causing this and what I could do to resolve this? It happens randomly which makes it weirder and harder to know when it’ll happen. Using latest versions of Jaws, Microsoft 365 and Windows 11.

Madison

On Jun 26, 2022, at 7:33 AM, Karen Reynolds <karenreynolds2061@...> wrote:



There is a link on BARD that you can press enter on when you are looking at the full description of the book.

 

So if you see a book in recent uploads that you want to put on your wish list, press enter on the title. Towards the bottom, after the description of the book, there are links to download it and to put it in your wish list.

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 10:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question on how too add a book too my wish list using my computer.

 

Good morning everyone, 

 

When I download a book from the Bard web site, using my computer, How do I add that book too my wish list? I know how too do it on the Stream, but I don’t know how too do this  on my computer.

I have also wondered what the advantages of are in pinning apps to the taskbar?

At work, they recommend that we do this, but what is the difference in pinning them there and pinning them to your Start menu?

Thanks.

Claudia

Hi, Rosie. Just put whatever you have on your desktop on the Task Bar instead, then delete the icons that are on your desktop.

I keep my desktop as clean as possible. It helps my machine load faster. I pin apps to my task bar.

Hi all,

I’ve noticed that sometimes when I open a message that Jaws goes silent but yet when I arrow through it the contents still show up on my braille display; any idea what could be causing this and what I could do to resolve this? It happens randomly which makes it weirder and harder to know when it’ll happen. Using latest versions of Jaws, Microsoft 365 and Windows 11.

Madison

Good morning everyone, 

When I download a book from the Bard web site, using my computer, How do I add that book too my wish list? I know how too do it on the Stream, but I don’t know how too do this  on my computer.

Good morning everyone, 

When I download a book from the Bard web site, using my computer, How do I add that book too my wish list? I know how too do it on the Stream, but I don’t know how too do this  on my computer.

I have also wondered what the advantages of are in pinning apps to the
taskbar?



At work, they recommend that we do this, but what is the difference in
pinning them there and pinning them to your Start menu?

Thanks.



Claudia





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 5:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Pinning apps to taskbar question



If you have folder shortcuts on the desktop you don't get the Pin to
Taskbar
in the context menu option.



How you can get around this if you have a folder shortcut that you want to
pin to the Taskbar, try the following:

1. Highlight the desktop icon and press, Alt + Enter, to open the icon's
properties.



2. When you open the icon's properties you'll be on the Shortcut page in
the, Target field, and you want to add what's below, but read what's below
character by character because you must include the space in what you type
in.

explorer .

That's the word, explorer , followed by a space .



Tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close the properties.



You should now get a, Pin to Taskbar, option in the context menu.





Stay safe and take care. Mike.
PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell!

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 2:19 PM

Subject: Re: Pinning apps to taskbar question



Hi, Rosie. Just put whatever you have on your desktop on the Task Bar
instead, then delete the icons that are on your desktop.



Bill White



billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of meow meow
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 1:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Pinning apps to taskbar question



how do u clean out?







From: Marianne Denning <mailto:marianne@...>

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 1:11 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: Pinning apps to taskbar question



I keep my desktop as clean as possible. It helps my machine load faster. I
pin apps to my task bar.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 5:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Pinning apps to taskbar question



I have never pinned an app to the task bar. I have shortcuts for most of my
apps on the desktop. Would there be any advantages to pin my apps to the
taskbar?

Hi, Rosie. Just put whatever you have on your desktop on the Task Bar instead, then delete the icons that are on your desktop.

I keep my desktop as clean as possible. It helps my machine load faster. I pin apps to my task bar.

On Jun 25, 2022, at 12:39 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

Hi Bill and everyone else!

I just checked this and discovered that while the notification history itself is not backed up by the import/export utility, the notification rules are backed up.

Gene...

On 6/22/2022 4:17 PM, Bill White wrote:

Hi, Gene. I would be interested to know if the notification history and the rules are exported when using the Import/Export Settings feature of Utilities.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Notification History and Rules Feature in JAWS 2022
Thanks for that! I was just wondering where those files were. I would
have expected the rules file to be in with my settings where they could
easily be backed up if desired.
Gene...
On 6/22/2022 3:52 PM, Bill White wrote:

If any of us should begin using the new Notification History and Rules
feature in JAWS 2022, and find that we have made changes that are
undesirable, here's how to set everything back to the defaults for
Notification History and Rules. I got this from Eric at FreedomScientific.


*To Remove Notification History And/Or Rules*

1. Open JAWS Menu with INSERT plus J.

2. Arrow down to Utilities sub menu and press ENTER.

3. Arrow down to Explore Utilities Folder and press ENTER.

4. Arrow down to Explore My Settings and press ENTER.

5. Press BACKSPACE to ascend one folder.

6. Find the folder called Notifications, and press ENTER.

7. To remove notification history, remove the following file,

Notifications.json

8. To remove notification rules, remove the following file,

notification.rules.json

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

Hi Mike,

I want it to speak those characters with punctuation set to none, but
when it speaks them, it does so twice.

Thanks for the explaination though.



Thanks,

Dennis T. Brown



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 12:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug



Hi Bill,



This is why I explained how the settings in here work. He's getting
double speak for punctuation marks by setting that mark on, None, when
if it were set on, All, it might be different.



These settings work backwards than what you would think. For example;
If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.



Stay safe and take care. Mike.
PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell!

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 3:10 PM

Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug



Hi, Mike. Dennis isn't drawing attention to the fact that the
punctuation is spoken. The bug he is reporting is that the punctuation
symbols are being spoken multiple times.



Bill White



<mailto:billwhite92701@...> billwhite92701@...



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 2:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug



Hi Dennis,



Jaws Quick Settings and Custommize Settings handles punctuation
symbols differently. Below is an explanation.



This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings
in Jaws quick settings, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the
Settings Center default all applications. They work backwards from one another.



When setting punctuation in Jaws quick settings, this controls the
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize. The default
setting is most. To hear less punctuation spoken you would select
some or none.



When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically
tells Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore. If you
do not want Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you
want to choose the " all " selection. You will have 4 radio buttons
to arrow up or down through. They are none, some, most, & all. In
these selections they work backwards than what you would think. For
example; If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.



Summary: In short the Jaws quick settings tells Jaws what punctuation
to recognize / speak, & in the Settings Center default all
applications / Customize Punctuation settings, tells Jaws what
punctuation to ignore / not speak.
Hence, they work backwards from each other.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.
Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.




----- Original Message -----

From: Dennis Brown <mailto:dennistbrown@...>

To: JFW List <mailto:jfw@groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 9:48 AM

Subject: Possible Punctuation Bug



Can someone try the following and see if you get the same reaction?



1. Load the Settings Center and select Punctuation, then Customize
Punctuation.
2. 2. You'll be placed in the list of punctuation with the layout of
3. Punctuation character, text name of that character, and the
punctuation mode for that character
4. Arrow down the list until you get to one of the following
characters.
5. Number, dollar, and, percent, at
6. 3. Set the mode for these characters to "none," then tab to and
select Ok.
7. Then tab to and select "Apply."

4. Repeat step#1 and arrow dow the list. Do those characters speak
twice

So instead of

Number, the character itself,

Then number, the text name,

Then none, the mode,

I get the character announced twice, then the text name, then the
mode, such as,

Number number number none

At at at none

Dollar dollar dollar none

Percent percent percent none

And and and none



Anyone else get this?



Thanks,

Dennis T. Brown





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As far as I can tell I don’t have anything pinned to the taskbar; I’m still not sure how to get to the system trey though…

One way is to tab to it—you should hear taskbar.

Ok, then tell us what applications are in your system tray and what is pinned to the taskbar.

You don’t answer my questions people on this list may not be able to help.

Okay, howdo I find out what apps are pinned to my taskbar and which apps are in the system trey? Sorry but I’ve never done anything with either other then setting Jaws to not run from the system trey

Maddison,

Can you tell us what programs are being loaded in the System Tray?

Also, can you tell us what programs do you have pinned to your Taskbar?

It might be that you have unnecessary programs in the System Tray that you don’t need running and too many programs that are pinned to the Taskbar.

Hi all,

I’ve noticed that sometimes when I open a message that Jaws goes silent but yet when I arrow through it the contents still show up on my braille display; any idea what could be causing this and what I could do to resolve this? It happens randomly which makes it weirder and harder to know when it’ll happen. Using latest versions of Jaws, Microsoft 365 and Windows 11.

Madison

Hi Mike,

I want it to speak those characters with punctuation set to none, but when
it speaks them, it does so twice.

Thanks for the explaination though.



Thanks,

Dennis T. Brown



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 12:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug



Hi Bill,



This is why I explained how the settings in here work. He's getting double
speak for punctuation marks by setting that mark on, None, when if it were
set on, All, it might be different.



These settings work backwards than what you would think. For example; If
you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.



Stay safe and take care. Mike.
PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell!

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 3:10 PM

Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug



Hi, Mike. Dennis isn't drawing attention to the fact that the punctuation
is
spoken. The bug he is reporting is that the punctuation symbols are being
spoken multiple times.



Bill White



<mailto:billwhite92701@...> billwhite92701@...



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 2:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug



Hi Dennis,



Jaws Quick Settings and Custommize Settings handles punctuation symbols
differently. Below is an explanation.



This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws quick settings, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the Settings
Center default all applications. They work backwards from one another.



When setting punctuation in Jaws quick settings, this controls the amount
of
punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize. The default setting is most. To
hear less
punctuation spoken you would select some or none.



When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore. If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose
the
" all " selection. You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through. They are none, some, most, & all. In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think. For example; If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.



Summary: In short the Jaws quick settings tells Jaws what punctuation to
recognize / speak, & in the Settings Center default all applications /
Customize
Punctuation settings, tells Jaws what punctuation to ignore / not speak.
Hence, they work backwards from each other.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.
Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.




----- Original Message -----

From: Dennis Brown <mailto:dennistbrown@...>

To: JFW List <mailto:jfw@groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 9:48 AM

Subject: Possible Punctuation Bug



Can someone try the following and see if you get the same reaction?



1. Load the Settings Center and select Punctuation, then Customize
Punctuation.
2. 2. You'll be placed in the list of punctuation with the layout of
3. Punctuation character, text name of that character, and the
punctuation mode for that character
4. Arrow down the list until you get to one of the following
characters.
5. Number, dollar, and, percent, at
6. 3. Set the mode for these characters to "none," then tab to and
select Ok.
7. Then tab to and select "Apply."

4. Repeat step#1 and arrow dow the list. Do those characters speak twice

So instead of

Number, the character itself,

Then number, the text name,

Then none, the mode,

I get the character announced twice, then the text name, then the mode,
such
as,

Number number number none

At at at none

Dollar dollar dollar none

Percent percent percent none

And and and none



Anyone else get this?



Thanks,

Dennis T. Brown





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Hi, Mike. Dennis isn't drawing attention to the fact that the punctuation is spoken. The bug he is reporting is that the punctuation symbols are being spoken multiple times.

Can someone try the following and see if you get the same reaction?

1. Load the Settings Center and select Punctuation, then Customize Punctuation…
2. 2.  You’ll be placed in the list of punctuation with the layout of
3. Punctuation character, text name of that character, and the punctuation mode for that character
4. Arrow down the list until you get to one of the following characters.
5. Number, dollar, and, percent, at
6. 3. Set the mode for these characters to “none,” then tab to and select Ok.
7. Then tab to and select “Apply.”

4. Repeat step#1 and arrow dow the list.  Do those characters speak twice

So instead of

Number, the character itself,

Then number, the text name,

Then none, the mode,

I get the character announced twice, then the text name, then the mode, such as,

Number number number none

At at at none

Dollar dollar dollar none

Percent percent percent none

And and and none

Anyone else get this?

Thanks,

Dennis T. Brown

Hi Stephen,

I called Vispero, who confirmed the extension is broken with NVDA and JAWS. The agent helping me said it looks like a Chrome update, or an update to the Wordle extension broke accessibility with multiple screen readers.  She advised trying the following link, while the extension is running.

https://www.possiblepromise.com/wordle

After configuring the 3 JAWS settings for this page, everything worked perfectly.  The problem is that the game on that page doesn’t appear to be synced with the NY Times page (e.g. yesterday’s word was already on the NY Times page.

The person at Vispero asked if I had contacted the developer of the extension; I hadn’t at that point, but have since posted a review in the Chrome Web Store, and sent an E-mail to the publisher via the Chrome Web Store.  Although there are 836 users of the extension, mine was the only review.  Perhaps others might submit a review and/or send a message to the publisher, in order to bring attention to the problem.

Katrina

Hi List

I’ve also found this issue with Wordle and in my case nothing to do with Jaws updates. Tried with two browsers and two screen readers. Any solutions appreciated, however I think something must have changed on the site to break the extension.

SB

I updated JAWS 22 this morning so have the latest running on my Windows 10 laptop.  I wonder if something in the JAWS update negatively impacted the Wordle Chrome extension, because everything worked perfectly last night, prior to the update, but sadly that is no longer the case.

I confirmed the “Make Wordle Accessible” extension is added to Chrome, and that it is enabled.  However, when on the New York Times Wordle page, JAWS doesn’t report that it is active (can’t recall the exact wording of that).  I confirmed the 3 JAWS settings for that page are properly set.  I tried many different things like disabling the extension and then enabling it, removing the extension and adding it again, unloading JAWS and reloading it, restarting the computer, etc.  No success!

Any thoughts as to what is happening?  I guess I can call, but thought I’d check here first.

Katrina  

One way is to tab to it—you should hear taskbar.

Ok, then tell us what applications are in your system tray and what is pinned to the taskbar.

You don’t answer my questions people on this list may not be able to help.

Okay, howdo I find out what apps are pinned to my taskbar and which apps are in the system trey? Sorry but I’ve never done anything with either other then setting Jaws to not run from the system trey

Maddison,

Can you tell us what programs are being loaded in the System Tray?

Also, can you tell us what programs do you have pinned to your Taskbar?

It might be that you have unnecessary programs in the System Tray that you don’t need running and too many programs that are pinned to the Taskbar.

Hi all,

I’ve noticed that sometimes when I open a message that Jaws goes silent but yet when I arrow through it the contents still show up on my braille display; any idea what could be causing this and what I could do to resolve this? It happens randomly which makes it weirder and harder to know when it’ll happen. Using latest versions of Jaws, Microsoft 365 and Windows 11.

Madison