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Re: Help with LinkedIn, Messages and Notifications

Peter op t Hof
 

Hi,

I have sent them such mail and no response.
I am a old-time Linkedin user from the beginning.
Foursquare has the same buttons on their site now, but they work well on the Iphone-app.

Gr,

Peter.

Op 31-1-2013 22:13, Farfar Carlson schreef:

Lisa,

Cool. Where have you been all this time? Nice post.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Larges" <llarges@tamfs.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 12:04
Subject: Help with LinkedIn, Messages and Notifications


Hi Andre and All
Andre's right, there are a few places in LinkedIn where JAWS doesn't work
well. In both Internet Explorer and FireFox, clicking on the Messages or
Notifications link doesn't work; routing to them with the JAWS cursor and
mouse clicking doesn't either.
The one method I've now found that does work is routing the JAWS cursor to
the number next to "Messages" or "notifications" and mouse clicking on that.
For instance, my page says "Messages 4," "Notifications, 6"; indicating that
I have four messages and six notifications. Finding the four or the six with
the JAWS cursor and clicking there will take me to those pages.
I don't know what the underlying scripting is here to know why they aren't
functioning as standard links, as JAWS indicates, but for some reason they
aren't able to be activated with standard enter or spacebar.
I haven't found any other spots on LinkedIn that are problematic like this;
I also know they recently did a make-over, and perhaps this is a change that
happened at that point.
I also think I'll send them a note letting them know that these particular
links aren't working with screen readers, for whatever good it might do.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:33 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

David

The browser I use is Explorer. Home page MSN.com.

My machine is a Dell laptop, I5-64 bit processor, 8 gig ram and high speed
hard drive.

The operating system is Windows7 with Office 2010.

Does this help?

Andre Jarreau
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

There are no scripts needed to access a standard web site application like
Linkedin. I'm beginning to repeat myself. Again what browser are you using?
What exact URL are you typing in?


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 06:08
Subject: RE: Linkedin


Linkedin as I know it is a socio-professionnal site. It allows networking
links you can accept or reject. It shows your resume, bio and lists for all
to see your professional-Linkedin connections. Linkedin as far as I know is
only for business and professional connections. That's not to say there
isn't a social aspect to it. But if there is I just can't get to it.

Other blind professionals I know use JAWS and need a reader to access
Linkedin. I've been using JAWS for ten years and am no stranger to the
internet and web issues. This is just one I hope can be overcome. It would
be great to find a JAWS script to make it work. Though more and more
comments received indicates no script exists.

If you have an idea, I would gladly listen.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:22 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

I wonder if we are all on the same page, is he wanting to know about the
social network or something else?


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

Out of curiosity I went to

www.linkedin.com

Absolutely a standard web page, so I wonder if you're using Google Chrome,
perhaps?

In any case I see nothing to indicate a "free" vs. paid version of the site,
and all the links appear to be conventional.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 13:53
Subject: RE: Linkedin


That is an avenue I can check out. Many thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Hadley has a two-part free webinar on using Linked-In. So someone knows
how.
At 03:11 PM 1/30/2013, you wrote:
The Freedom Scientific techs didn't know how to make Linkedin work. They
told me to try this listserv, so I did. Maybe something will come of it.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Andre,

Welcome. Sometimes it takes a while to get a response. You can assume that
so far, no one who has looked at the list in the past two days uses
LinkedIn. I'm surprised, too. Have you asked Freedom Scientific about it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:58 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Linkedin

Does anyone know how to use "Linkedin"?

Can Linkedin work with JAWS at all?

Does anyone know?

Andre
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Re: application mode

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Kelby. To exit from forms mode on a laptop, you need to use the keys FN plus the slash key below the semicolon on the keyboard. This will say Vertual Cursor and exit you from the form field.

The FN key is a special function key on a laptop. For me, it is to the right of the Control key.

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelby Carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: application mode


How can you get out of forms mede if you use the laptop layout?

Kelby



----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Date sent: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:01:20 -0500
Subject: RE: application mode

Tom,

I was hoping the method that works for most situations would
solve the
problem. As I understand it, if only part of the page is written
in
applications mode, the way to get out is with the + key on the
numpad, which
takes you out of forms mode.

Some time ago, David Bailes posted the following about
applications mode:

there's an article on application mode that originated from
freedom
scientific:
http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2010/10/jaws-support-for-aria/
See especially the Applications and documents section. ?This is
a brief
attempt at a summary: People?riting web pages can mark either
part of or
the whole of a web page to have the role of an application,
indicating that
it's more like a desktop application than a document, and it's
intended that
you should be able to navigate it using the standard keystrokes
that are
used for desktop applications such as tab and the arrow keys. ?
Whether part
of the page or the whole of the page is marked to have the role
of an
application makes a big difference in how Jaws behaves. ?If
part of the
page is marked application, then this is one of the landmarks of
the page
(like main, and navigation). The only change in Jaws' behaviour
is exiting
forms mode. Within such a section, you can only get out of forms
mode by
pressing numpad plus. If you're using auto forms mode, then
normally this
automatically exits forms mode whenever possible, for example if
you tab to
a control that doesn't need forms control. However, within?
part of a page
marked as application this doesn't happen. ?If the whole page
is marked
application, then the virtual cursor is not used for that page,
and jaws
says that application mode is on. So when jaws says that
the?pplication
mode is on here is no option to use the virtual cursor. Note
that such a
page may contain a section marked as a document, or may include
another web
page which is a document, and for that section of the page you
can use the
virtual cursor. This appears to be how google docs are set up.
?It's also
possible for a standard web page to include another web page
which is an
application. Unfortunately the permutations seem to be endless.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
tcivi31
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: application mode

I take it back. Jaws plus Z does not toggle application mode.
This is
driving me up the wall. Help! Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "tcivi31" <tcivi31@comcast.net
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: application mode

I apologize, it does work. Thanks, Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:01 AM
Subject: RE: application mode

To disable it temporarily, press JAWS key+z , which turns off
virtual cursor
mode. This key combination is a toggle. Press it again to
return to auto
virtual cursor mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
tcivi31
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:37 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: application mode

What is the purpose of application mode in Internet Explorer? How
do I turn
it off or even better disable it? Thanks. Tom

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Re: Help with LinkedIn, Messages and Notifications

Dave...
 

Lisa,

Cool. Where have you been all this time? Nice post.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Larges" <llarges@tamfs.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 12:04
Subject: Help with LinkedIn, Messages and Notifications


Hi Andre and All
Andre's right, there are a few places in LinkedIn where JAWS doesn't work
well. In both Internet Explorer and FireFox, clicking on the Messages or
Notifications link doesn't work; routing to them with the JAWS cursor and
mouse clicking doesn't either.
The one method I've now found that does work is routing the JAWS cursor to
the number next to "Messages" or "notifications" and mouse clicking on that.
For instance, my page says "Messages 4," "Notifications, 6"; indicating that
I have four messages and six notifications. Finding the four or the six with
the JAWS cursor and clicking there will take me to those pages.
I don't know what the underlying scripting is here to know why they aren't
functioning as standard links, as JAWS indicates, but for some reason they
aren't able to be activated with standard enter or spacebar.
I haven't found any other spots on LinkedIn that are problematic like this;
I also know they recently did a make-over, and perhaps this is a change that
happened at that point.
I also think I'll send them a note letting them know that these particular
links aren't working with screen readers, for whatever good it might do.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:33 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

David

The browser I use is Explorer. Home page MSN.com.

My machine is a Dell laptop, I5-64 bit processor, 8 gig ram and high speed
hard drive.

The operating system is Windows7 with Office 2010.

Does this help?

Andre Jarreau
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

There are no scripts needed to access a standard web site application like
Linkedin. I'm beginning to repeat myself. Again what browser are you using?
What exact URL are you typing in?


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 06:08
Subject: RE: Linkedin


Linkedin as I know it is a socio-professionnal site. It allows networking
links you can accept or reject. It shows your resume, bio and lists for all
to see your professional-Linkedin connections. Linkedin as far as I know is
only for business and professional connections. That's not to say there
isn't a social aspect to it. But if there is I just can't get to it.

Other blind professionals I know use JAWS and need a reader to access
Linkedin. I've been using JAWS for ten years and am no stranger to the
internet and web issues. This is just one I hope can be overcome. It would
be great to find a JAWS script to make it work. Though more and more
comments received indicates no script exists.

If you have an idea, I would gladly listen.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:22 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

I wonder if we are all on the same page, is he wanting to know about the
social network or something else?


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

Out of curiosity I went to

www.linkedin.com

Absolutely a standard web page, so I wonder if you're using Google Chrome,
perhaps?

In any case I see nothing to indicate a "free" vs. paid version of the site,
and all the links appear to be conventional.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 13:53
Subject: RE: Linkedin


That is an avenue I can check out. Many thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Hadley has a two-part free webinar on using Linked-In. So someone knows
how.
At 03:11 PM 1/30/2013, you wrote:
The Freedom Scientific techs didn't know how to make Linkedin work. They
told me to try this listserv, so I did. Maybe something will come of it.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Andre,

Welcome. Sometimes it takes a while to get a response. You can assume that
so far, no one who has looked at the list in the past two days uses
LinkedIn. I'm surprised, too. Have you asked Freedom Scientific about it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:58 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Linkedin

Does anyone know how to use "Linkedin"?

Can Linkedin work with JAWS at all?

Does anyone know?

Andre
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Re: Help with LinkedIn, Messages and Notifications

Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...>
 

Tried it. Having JAWS highlight the number did make a difference. However
going a little further; messages and notifications are still not accessible.

I left a "Contact Us" message for them. Don't know if they will get it or
not. If you can get a message to them; then by all means please do so.

Thanks much!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Larges
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:05 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Help with LinkedIn, Messages and Notifications

Hi Andre and All
Andre's right, there are a few places in LinkedIn where JAWS doesn't work
well. In both Internet Explorer and FireFox, clicking on the Messages or
Notifications link doesn't work; routing to them with the JAWS cursor and
mouse clicking doesn't either.
The one method I've now found that does work is routing the JAWS cursor to
the number next to "Messages" or "notifications" and mouse clicking on that.
For instance, my page says "Messages 4," "Notifications, 6"; indicating that
I have four messages and six notifications. Finding the four or the six with
the JAWS cursor and clicking there will take me to those pages.
I don't know what the underlying scripting is here to know why they aren't
functioning as standard links, as JAWS indicates, but for some reason they
aren't able to be activated with standard enter or spacebar.
I haven't found any other spots on LinkedIn that are problematic like this;
I also know they recently did a make-over, and perhaps this is a change that
happened at that point.
I also think I'll send them a note letting them know that these particular
links aren't working with screen readers, for whatever good it might do.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:33 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

David

The browser I use is Explorer. Home page MSN.com.

My machine is a Dell laptop, I5-64 bit processor, 8 gig ram and high speed
hard drive.

The operating system is Windows7 with Office 2010.

Does this help?

Andre Jarreau
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

There are no scripts needed to access a standard web site application like
Linkedin. I'm beginning to repeat myself. Again what browser are you using?
What exact URL are you typing in?


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 06:08
Subject: RE: Linkedin


Linkedin as I know it is a socio-professionnal site. It allows networking
links you can accept or reject. It shows your resume, bio and lists for all
to see your professional-Linkedin connections. Linkedin as far as I know is
only for business and professional connections. That's not to say there
isn't a social aspect to it. But if there is I just can't get to it.

Other blind professionals I know use JAWS and need a reader to access
Linkedin. I've been using JAWS for ten years and am no stranger to the
internet and web issues. This is just one I hope can be overcome. It would
be great to find a JAWS script to make it work. Though more and more
comments received indicates no script exists.

If you have an idea, I would gladly listen.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:22 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

I wonder if we are all on the same page, is he wanting to know about the
social network or something else?


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

Out of curiosity I went to

www.linkedin.com

Absolutely a standard web page, so I wonder if you're using Google Chrome,
perhaps?

In any case I see nothing to indicate a "free" vs. paid version of the site,
and all the links appear to be conventional.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 13:53
Subject: RE: Linkedin


That is an avenue I can check out. Many thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Hadley has a two-part free webinar on using Linked-In. So someone knows
how.
At 03:11 PM 1/30/2013, you wrote:
The Freedom Scientific techs didn't know how to make Linkedin work. They
told me to try this listserv, so I did. Maybe something will come of it.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Andre,

Welcome. Sometimes it takes a while to get a response. You can assume that
so far, no one who has looked at the list in the past two days uses
LinkedIn. I'm surprised, too. Have you asked Freedom Scientific about it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:58 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Linkedin

Does anyone know how to use "Linkedin"?

Can Linkedin work with JAWS at all?

Does anyone know?

Andre
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Help with LinkedIn, Messages and Notifications

Lisa Larges
 

Hi Andre and All
Andre's right, there are a few places in LinkedIn where JAWS doesn't work
well. In both Internet Explorer and FireFox, clicking on the Messages or
Notifications link doesn't work; routing to them with the JAWS cursor and
mouse clicking doesn't either.
The one method I've now found that does work is routing the JAWS cursor to
the number next to "Messages" or "notifications" and mouse clicking on that.
For instance, my page says "Messages 4," "Notifications, 6"; indicating that
I have four messages and six notifications. Finding the four or the six with
the JAWS cursor and clicking there will take me to those pages.
I don't know what the underlying scripting is here to know why they aren't
functioning as standard links, as JAWS indicates, but for some reason they
aren't able to be activated with standard enter or spacebar.
I haven't found any other spots on LinkedIn that are problematic like this;
I also know they recently did a make-over, and perhaps this is a change that
happened at that point.
I also think I'll send them a note letting them know that these particular
links aren't working with screen readers, for whatever good it might do.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:33 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

David

The browser I use is Explorer. Home page MSN.com.

My machine is a Dell laptop, I5-64 bit processor, 8 gig ram and high speed
hard drive.

The operating system is Windows7 with Office 2010.

Does this help?

Andre Jarreau
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

There are no scripts needed to access a standard web site application like
Linkedin. I'm beginning to repeat myself. Again what browser are you using?
What exact URL are you typing in?


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 06:08
Subject: RE: Linkedin


Linkedin as I know it is a socio-professionnal site. It allows networking
links you can accept or reject. It shows your resume, bio and lists for all
to see your professional-Linkedin connections. Linkedin as far as I know is
only for business and professional connections. That's not to say there
isn't a social aspect to it. But if there is I just can't get to it.

Other blind professionals I know use JAWS and need a reader to access
Linkedin. I've been using JAWS for ten years and am no stranger to the
internet and web issues. This is just one I hope can be overcome. It would
be great to find a JAWS script to make it work. Though more and more
comments received indicates no script exists.

If you have an idea, I would gladly listen.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:22 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

I wonder if we are all on the same page, is he wanting to know about the
social network or something else?


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

Out of curiosity I went to

www.linkedin.com

Absolutely a standard web page, so I wonder if you're using Google Chrome,
perhaps?

In any case I see nothing to indicate a "free" vs. paid version of the site,
and all the links appear to be conventional.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 13:53
Subject: RE: Linkedin


That is an avenue I can check out. Many thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Hadley has a two-part free webinar on using Linked-In. So someone knows
how.
At 03:11 PM 1/30/2013, you wrote:
The Freedom Scientific techs didn't know how to make Linkedin work. They
told me to try this listserv, so I did. Maybe something will come of it.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Andre,

Welcome. Sometimes it takes a while to get a response. You can assume that
so far, no one who has looked at the list in the past two days uses
LinkedIn. I'm surprised, too. Have you asked Freedom Scientific about it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:58 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Linkedin

Does anyone know how to use "Linkedin"?

Can Linkedin work with JAWS at all?

Does anyone know?

Andre
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Re: application mode

Kelby Carlson <kelbycarlson@...>
 

How can you get out of forms mede if you use the laptop layout?

Kelby

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Date sent: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:01:20 -0500
Subject: RE: application mode

Tom,

I was hoping the method that works for most situations would solve the
problem. As I understand it, if only part of the page is written in
applications mode, the way to get out is with the + key on the numpad, which
takes you out of forms mode.

Some time ago, David Bailes posted the following about applications mode:

there's an article on application mode that originated from freedom
scientific:
http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2010/10/jaws-support-for-aria/
See especially the Applications and documents section. � This is a brief
attempt at a summary: People쟷riting web pages can mark either part of or
the whole of a web page to have the role of an application, indicating that
it's more like a desktop application than a document, and it's intended that
you should be able to navigate it using the standard keystrokes that are
used for desktop applications such as tab and the arrow keys. � Whether part
of the page or the whole of the page is marked to have the role of an
application makes a big difference in how Jaws behaves. � If part of the
page is marked application, then this is one of the landmarks of the page
(like main, and navigation). The only change in Jaws' behaviour is exiting
forms mode. Within such a section, you can only get out of forms mode by
pressing numpad plus. If you're using auto forms mode, then normally this
automatically exits forms mode whenever possible, for example if you tab to
a control that doesn't need forms control. However, within쟞 part of a page
marked as application this doesn't happen. � If the whole page is marked
application, then the virtual cursor is not used for that page, and jaws
says that application mode is on. So when jaws says that the쟞pplication
mode is on here is no option to use the virtual cursor. Note that such a
page may contain a section marked as a document, or may include another web
page which is a document, and for that section of the page you can use the
virtual cursor. This appears to be how google docs are set up. � It's also
possible for a standard web page to include another web page which is an
application. Unfortunately the permutations seem to be endless.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: application mode

I take it back. Jaws plus Z does not toggle application mode. This is
driving me up the wall. Help! Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "tcivi31" <tcivi31@comcast.net
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: application mode

I apologize, it does work. Thanks, Tom
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:01 AM
Subject: RE: application mode

To disable it temporarily, press JAWS key+z , which turns off virtual cursor
mode. This key combination is a toggle. Press it again to return to auto
virtual cursor mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:37 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: application mode

What is the purpose of application mode in Internet Explorer? How do I turn
it off or even better disable it? Thanks. Tom

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Re: Linkedin

Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...>
 

Dave,

You are probably right. I often run into websites that one way or another
are problematic. In the case of LinkedIn it appears the user experience is
different than for those who just scan the sight.

LinkedIn is an Oracle powered site and perhaps that has something to do with
it. Oracle being a server operating system shouldn't effect the website.
But I'm not sure exactly what being powered by Oracle means.

If it turns out to be an Oracle interface issue in some way; then a JAWS
script might be an answer.

Until more is known, many thanks for your input. I now have a better feel
for LinkedIn. I executed the "Contact Us" maybe they will return email and
open dialogue.

Andre Jarreau

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:49 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

Helps at least to know you're not using Google Chrome.

Unfortunately I don't have any other ideas. Linkedin is a pretty standard
web page, and last night I found that it was behaving very well. Again I'm
not a regular user, so may not be encountering the problems you're having.

Are you having no issues with other web sites in general? Wondering if your
Tools/Option/advanced settings are way out of default settings.

If only Linkedin, then do you have some personalized JAWS quick settings for

that page that are messing you up?

I just don't know what would make Linkedin not work well if all other web
sites work well. Sorry, and I'm surprised that FS support led you to believe

that any special scripts might be needed for Linkedin.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


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From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 09:32
Subject: RE: Linkedin


David

The browser I use is Explorer. Home page MSN.com.

My machine is a Dell laptop, I5-64 bit processor, 8 gig ram and high speed
hard drive.

The operating system is Windows7 with Office 2010.

Does this help?

Andre Jarreau
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

There are no scripts needed to access a standard web site application like
Linkedin. I'm beginning to repeat myself. Again what browser are you using?
What exact URL are you typing in?


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 06:08
Subject: RE: Linkedin


Linkedin as I know it is a socio-professionnal site. It allows networking
links you can accept or reject. It shows your resume, bio and lists for all
to see your professional-Linkedin connections. Linkedin as far as I know is
only for business and professional connections. That's not to say there
isn't a social aspect to it. But if there is I just can't get to it.

Other blind professionals I know use JAWS and need a reader to access
Linkedin. I've been using JAWS for ten years and am no stranger to the
internet and web issues. This is just one I hope can be overcome. It would
be great to find a JAWS script to make it work. Though more and more
comments received indicates no script exists.

If you have an idea, I would gladly listen.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:22 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

I wonder if we are all on the same page, is he wanting to know about the
social network or something else?


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

Out of curiosity I went to

www.linkedin.com

Absolutely a standard web page, so I wonder if you're using Google Chrome,
perhaps?

In any case I see nothing to indicate a "free" vs. paid version of the site,
and all the links appear to be conventional.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 13:53
Subject: RE: Linkedin


That is an avenue I can check out. Many thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Hadley has a two-part free webinar on using Linked-In. So someone knows
how.
At 03:11 PM 1/30/2013, you wrote:
The Freedom Scientific techs didn't know how to make Linkedin work. They
told me to try this listserv, so I did. Maybe something will come of it.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Andre,

Welcome. Sometimes it takes a while to get a response. You can assume that
so far, no one who has looked at the list in the past two days uses
LinkedIn. I'm surprised, too. Have you asked Freedom Scientific about it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:58 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Linkedin

Does anyone know how to use "Linkedin"?

Can Linkedin work with JAWS at all?

Does anyone know?

Andre
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Re: application mode

Adrian Spratt
 

Tom,

I was hoping the method that works for most situations would solve the
problem. As I understand it, if only part of the page is written in
applications mode, the way to get out is with the + key on the numpad, which
takes you out of forms mode.

Some time ago, David Bailes posted the following about applications mode:

there's an article on application mode that originated from freedom
scientific:
http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2010/10/jaws-support-for-aria/
See especially the Applications and documents section.   This is a brief
attempt at a summary: People writing web pages can mark either part of or
the whole of a web page to have the role of an application, indicating that
it's more like a desktop application than a document, and it's intended that
you should be able to navigate it using the standard keystrokes that are
used for desktop applications such as tab and the arrow keys.   Whether part
of the page or the whole of the page is marked to have the role of an
application makes a big difference in how Jaws behaves.   If part of the
page is marked application, then this is one of the landmarks of the page
(like main, and navigation). The only change in Jaws' behaviour is exiting
forms mode. Within such a section, you can only get out of forms mode by
pressing numpad plus. If you're using auto forms mode, then normally this
automatically exits forms mode whenever possible, for example if you tab to
a control that doesn't need forms control. However, within a part of a page
marked as application this doesn't happen.   If the whole page is marked
application, then the virtual cursor is not used for that page, and jaws
says that application mode is on. So when jaws says that the application
mode is on here is no option to use the virtual cursor. Note that such a
page may contain a section marked as a document, or may include another web
page which is a document, and for that section of the page you can use the
virtual cursor. This appears to be how google docs are set up.   It's also
possible for a standard web page to include another web page which is an
application. Unfortunately the permutations seem to be endless.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: application mode

I take it back. Jaws plus Z does not toggle application mode. This is
driving me up the wall. Help! Tom
----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:13 AM
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I apologize, it does work. Thanks, Tom
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:01 AM
Subject: RE: application mode

To disable it temporarily, press JAWS key+z , which turns off virtual cursor
mode. This key combination is a toggle. Press it again to return to auto
virtual cursor mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:37 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: application mode

What is the purpose of application mode in Internet Explorer? How do I turn
it off or even better disable it? Thanks. Tom

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Re: Linkedin

Dave...
 

Andre,

Helps at least to know you're not using Google Chrome.

Unfortunately I don't have any other ideas. Linkedin is a pretty standard
web page, and last night I found that it was behaving very well. Again I'm
not a regular user, so may not be encountering the problems you're having.

Are you having no issues with other web sites in general? Wondering if your
Tools/Option/advanced settings are way out of default settings.

If only Linkedin, then do you have some personalized JAWS quick settings for
that page that are messing you up?

I just don't know what would make Linkedin not work well if all other web
sites work well. Sorry, and I'm surprised that FS support led you to believe
that any special scripts might be needed for Linkedin.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 09:32
Subject: RE: Linkedin


David

The browser I use is Explorer. Home page MSN.com.

My machine is a Dell laptop, I5-64 bit processor, 8 gig ram and high speed
hard drive.

The operating system is Windows7 with Office 2010.

Does this help?

Andre Jarreau
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

There are no scripts needed to access a standard web site application like
Linkedin. I'm beginning to repeat myself. Again what browser are you using?
What exact URL are you typing in?


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 06:08
Subject: RE: Linkedin


Linkedin as I know it is a socio-professionnal site. It allows networking
links you can accept or reject. It shows your resume, bio and lists for all
to see your professional-Linkedin connections. Linkedin as far as I know is
only for business and professional connections. That's not to say there
isn't a social aspect to it. But if there is I just can't get to it.

Other blind professionals I know use JAWS and need a reader to access
Linkedin. I've been using JAWS for ten years and am no stranger to the
internet and web issues. This is just one I hope can be overcome. It would
be great to find a JAWS script to make it work. Though more and more
comments received indicates no script exists.

If you have an idea, I would gladly listen.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:22 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

I wonder if we are all on the same page, is he wanting to know about the
social network or something else?


Rose Combs
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

Out of curiosity I went to

www.linkedin.com

Absolutely a standard web page, so I wonder if you're using Google Chrome,
perhaps?

In any case I see nothing to indicate a "free" vs. paid version of the site,
and all the links appear to be conventional.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 13:53
Subject: RE: Linkedin


That is an avenue I can check out. Many thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Hadley has a two-part free webinar on using Linked-In. So someone knows
how.
At 03:11 PM 1/30/2013, you wrote:
The Freedom Scientific techs didn't know how to make Linkedin work. They
told me to try this listserv, so I did. Maybe something will come of it.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Andre,

Welcome. Sometimes it takes a while to get a response. You can assume that
so far, no one who has looked at the list in the past two days uses
LinkedIn. I'm surprised, too. Have you asked Freedom Scientific about it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:58 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Linkedin

Does anyone know how to use "Linkedin"?

Can Linkedin work with JAWS at all?

Does anyone know?

Andre
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Re: Linkedin

Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...>
 

David

The browser I use is Explorer. Home page MSN.com.

My machine is a Dell laptop, I5-64 bit processor, 8 gig ram and high speed
hard drive.

The operating system is Windows7 with Office 2010.

Does this help?

Andre Jarreau

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

There are no scripts needed to access a standard web site application like
Linkedin. I'm beginning to repeat myself. Again what browser are you using?
What exact URL are you typing in?


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 06:08
Subject: RE: Linkedin


Linkedin as I know it is a socio-professionnal site. It allows networking
links you can accept or reject. It shows your resume, bio and lists for all
to see your professional-Linkedin connections. Linkedin as far as I know is
only for business and professional connections. That's not to say there
isn't a social aspect to it. But if there is I just can't get to it.

Other blind professionals I know use JAWS and need a reader to access
Linkedin. I've been using JAWS for ten years and am no stranger to the
internet and web issues. This is just one I hope can be overcome. It would
be great to find a JAWS script to make it work. Though more and more
comments received indicates no script exists.

If you have an idea, I would gladly listen.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:22 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

I wonder if we are all on the same page, is he wanting to know about the
social network or something else?


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

Out of curiosity I went to

www.linkedin.com

Absolutely a standard web page, so I wonder if you're using Google Chrome,
perhaps?

In any case I see nothing to indicate a "free" vs. paid version of the site,
and all the links appear to be conventional.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 13:53
Subject: RE: Linkedin


That is an avenue I can check out. Many thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Hadley has a two-part free webinar on using Linked-In. So someone knows
how.
At 03:11 PM 1/30/2013, you wrote:
The Freedom Scientific techs didn't know how to make Linkedin work. They
told me to try this listserv, so I did. Maybe something will come of it.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Andre,

Welcome. Sometimes it takes a while to get a response. You can assume that
so far, no one who has looked at the list in the past two days uses
LinkedIn. I'm surprised, too. Have you asked Freedom Scientific about it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:58 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Linkedin

Does anyone know how to use "Linkedin"?

Can Linkedin work with JAWS at all?

Does anyone know?

Andre
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Re: Is there a screen reader that supports Arabic?

Richard B. McDonald
 

oh yeah, check out the following link:

www.aramedia.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:24 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Is there a screen reader that supports Arabic?

I looked in the JAWS menu under voices, synthesizer languages, and I did not
see Arabic. Did I miss it, or does JAWS not support Arabic? If not, is
there another screen reader that does?

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Re: Is there a screen reader that supports Arabic?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Check out "Ibsar." I used it to learn Arabic. It is multilingual,
English/Arabic inclusive of left/right/ and right/left reading direction
differences, nice voices, dictionaries and a lot more.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:24 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Is there a screen reader that supports Arabic?

I looked in the JAWS menu under voices, synthesizer languages, and I did not
see Arabic. Did I miss it, or does JAWS not support Arabic? If not, is
there another screen reader that does?

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Re: application mode

Cy Selfridge
 

Tom, it is clear to me that you are part of the problem. You are *NOT*
holding your mouth right when you try to accomplish this. (LOLLOLLOLLOL)
Ever consider that the angle of the Moon and humidity might play a part?
With JAWS, who knows.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: application mode

I take it back. Jaws plus Z does not toggle application mode. This is
driving me up the wall. Help! Tom
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: application mode


I apologize, it does work. Thanks, Tom
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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:01 AM
Subject: RE: application mode


To disable it temporarily, press JAWS key+z , which turns off virtual
cursor mode. This key combination is a toggle. Press it again to
return to auto virtual cursor mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:37 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: application mode

What is the purpose of application mode in Internet Explorer?
How do I turn it off or even better disable it?
Thanks. Tom

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Re: Linkedin

Dave...
 

Andre,

There are no scripts needed to access a standard web site application like
Linkedin. I'm beginning to repeat myself. Again what browser are you using?
What exact URL are you typing in?


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 06:08
Subject: RE: Linkedin


Linkedin as I know it is a socio-professionnal site. It allows networking
links you can accept or reject. It shows your resume, bio and lists for all
to see your professional-Linkedin connections. Linkedin as far as I know is
only for business and professional connections. That's not to say there
isn't a social aspect to it. But if there is I just can't get to it.

Other blind professionals I know use JAWS and need a reader to access
Linkedin. I've been using JAWS for ten years and am no stranger to the
internet and web issues. This is just one I hope can be overcome. It would
be great to find a JAWS script to make it work. Though more and more
comments received indicates no script exists.

If you have an idea, I would gladly listen.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:22 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

I wonder if we are all on the same page, is he wanting to know about the
social network or something else?


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

Out of curiosity I went to

www.linkedin.com

Absolutely a standard web page, so I wonder if you're using Google Chrome,
perhaps?

In any case I see nothing to indicate a "free" vs. paid version of the site,
and all the links appear to be conventional.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 13:53
Subject: RE: Linkedin


That is an avenue I can check out. Many thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Hadley has a two-part free webinar on using Linked-In. So someone knows
how.
At 03:11 PM 1/30/2013, you wrote:
The Freedom Scientific techs didn't know how to make Linkedin work. They
told me to try this listserv, so I did. Maybe something will come of it.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Andre,

Welcome. Sometimes it takes a while to get a response. You can assume that
so far, no one who has looked at the list in the past two days uses
LinkedIn. I'm surprised, too. Have you asked Freedom Scientific about it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:58 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Linkedin

Does anyone know how to use "Linkedin"?

Can Linkedin work with JAWS at all?

Does anyone know?

Andre
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Re: application mode

T. Civitello
 

I take it back. Jaws plus Z does not toggle application mode. This is driving me up the wall. Help! Tom

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: application mode


I apologize, it does work. Thanks, Tom
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:01 AM
Subject: RE: application mode


To disable it temporarily, press JAWS key+z , which turns off virtual cursor
mode. This key combination is a toggle. Press it again to return to auto
virtual cursor mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:37 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: application mode

What is the purpose of application mode in Internet Explorer?
How do I turn it off or even better disable it?
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Re: Linkedin

Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...>
 

Adrian,

The search idea could be a good one.

Thanks
Andre Jarreau

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: LinkedIn

Andre,

I was just Googling another question and noticed several discussions of
LinkedIn's accessibility, on the whole sounding positive. You might do a
search with terms such as LinkedIn, accessible, JAWS.

To clear up LinkedIn's purpose, it is designed to connect employers with
employees. Because resumes are posted on the site, employers can troll
through for prospects. In that context, it is also a social network, much
like Facebook. It is sometimes referred to as Facebook for professionals.

Note how the name is written, with no spaces and caps L and I: LinkedIn.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Thursday, January 31
, 2013 9:08 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Linkedin as I know it is a socio-professionnal site. It allows networking
links you can accept or reject. It shows your resume, bio and lists for all
to see your professional-Linkedin connections. Linkedin as far as I know is
only for business and professional connections. That's not to say there
isn't a social aspect to it. But if there is I just can't get to it.

Other blind professionals I know use JAWS and need a reader to access
Linkedin. I've been using JAWS for ten years and am no stranger to the
internet and web issues. This is just one I hope can be overcome. It would
be great to find a JAWS script to make it work. Though more and more
comments received indicates no script exists.

If you have an idea, I would gladly listen.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:22 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

I wonder if we are all on the same page, is he wanting to know about the
social network or something else?


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

Out of curiosity I went to

www.linkedin.com

Absolutely a standard web page, so I wonder if you're using Google Chrome,
perhaps?

In any case I see nothing to indicate a "free" vs. paid version of the site,
and all the links appear to be conventional.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 13:53
Subject: RE: Linkedin


That is an avenue I can check out. Many thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Hadley has a two-part free webinar on using Linked-In. So someone knows
how.
At 03:11 PM 1/30/2013, you wrote:
The Freedom Scientific techs didn't know how to make Linkedin work. They
told me to try this listserv, so I did. Maybe something will come of it.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Andre,

Welcome. Sometimes it takes a while to get a response. You can assume that
so far, no one who has looked at the list in the past two days uses
LinkedIn. I'm surprised, too. Have you asked Freedom Scientific about it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:58 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Linkedin

Does anyone know how to use "Linkedin"?

Can Linkedin work with JAWS at all?

Does anyone know?

Andre
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Re: Linkedin

Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...>
 

Chuck,

I can get to where LinkedIn tells me there are messages and notifications.
But try as I might I cannot access them. Wish I could.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
ckrugman@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

For expedience and convenience I have my incoming messages on LinkedIn
forwarede to my email. However, when I access it for something else and
happen to go in to my In Box I have no problem getting messages although the

layout is a bit different.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:51 PM
Subject: RE: Linkedin


Tom,

The problems are different every time I try to use it. Several other JAWS
users I know are having problems with it as well.

I use a Dell 64 bit laptop with I5 processor, 8 meg ram and high speed
hard
drive. On it is Windows7 and Office 2010. I have been a JAWS user for
ten
years and currently have JAWS 13 latest update.

The problems with Linkedin are strange. The techs at Freedom Scientific
say
they have a lot of calls on Linkedin but do not know how to fix it.

Each time I access Linkedin it acts differently. Only once in many months
have I been able to check incoming messages. The woman who teaches JAWS
here in town can't get it to work on her systems at home or work.

Could it be that the basic linkedin set up, which is free, might be the
problem? I hate to upgrade and have it not work. What do you think?

Thanks,
Andre
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:24 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Hi Andre, Can you tell us what kinds of problems you are having. I
haven't
been using it for some time but don't remember any show stoppers. I took
a
quick look and it seems to be standered web stuff. With out any further
specifics it is difficult to comment.
Could you tell us what operating system you are using and what browser you
are using. I always use IE, I have never gotten firefox to work properly
with jaws.
Regards
Tom Bisset
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre
Jarreau
Sent: January 30, 2013 4:11 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

The Freedom Scientific techs didn't know how to make Linkedin work. They
told me to try this listserv, so I did. Maybe something will come of it.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Andre,

Welcome. Sometimes it takes a while to get a response. You can assume that
so far, no one who has looked at the list in the past two days uses
LinkedIn. I'm surprised, too. Have you asked Freedom Scientific about it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre
Jarreau
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:58 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Linkedin

Does anyone know how to use "Linkedin"?

Can Linkedin work with JAWS at all?

Does anyone know?

Andre
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Re: application mode

T. Civitello
 

I apologize, it does work. Thanks, Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:01 AM
Subject: RE: application mode


To disable it temporarily, press JAWS key+z , which turns off virtual cursor
mode. This key combination is a toggle. Press it again to return to auto
virtual cursor mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:37 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: application mode

What is the purpose of application mode in Internet Explorer?
How do I turn it off or even better disable it?
Thanks. Tom

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Re: application mode

T. Civitello
 

Thanks but that doesn't seem to work. Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:01 AM
Subject: RE: application mode


To disable it temporarily, press JAWS key+z , which turns off virtual cursor
mode. This key combination is a toggle. Press it again to return to auto
virtual cursor mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:37 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: application mode

What is the purpose of application mode in Internet Explorer?
How do I turn it off or even better disable it?
Thanks. Tom

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Re: Linkedin

Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...>
 

Ve,

Went to LinkedIn.com and could get around somewhat. However Messages and
notifications could not be accessed.

Often when receiving email announcments of individuals requesting linking I
click on the link in the body of the email to go to LinkedIn to review the
request. More often than not the accept link cannot be found. And
sometimes when clicking the link within the body of an LinkedIn email; it
goes to LinkedIn but sense cannot be made of the location within the
LinkedIn site. Sometimes hitting alt-F4 to exit out does not work. It is
baffeling.

To go to LinkedIn.com and move around seems fairly easy and mostly working
as expected. However if you are a JAWS user
Who is totally blind try signing up and using it for a month or two. Then
I think you will see what myself and others experience.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Linkedin

Andre,

Out of curiosity I went to

www.linkedin.com

Absolutely a standard web page, so I wonder if you're using Google Chrome,
perhaps?

In any case I see nothing to indicate a "free" vs. paid version of the site,

and all the links appear to be conventional.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Jarreau" <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 13:53
Subject: RE: Linkedin


That is an avenue I can check out. Many thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Hadley has a two-part free webinar on using Linked-In. So someone knows
how.
At 03:11 PM 1/30/2013, you wrote:
The Freedom Scientific techs didn't know how to make Linkedin work. They
told me to try this listserv, so I did. Maybe something will come of it.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Linkedin

Andre,

Welcome. Sometimes it takes a while to get a response. You can assume that
so far, no one who has looked at the list in the past two days uses
LinkedIn. I'm surprised, too. Have you asked Freedom Scientific about it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:58 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Linkedin

Does anyone know how to use "Linkedin"?

Can Linkedin work with JAWS at all?

Does anyone know?

Andre
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