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Re: A Genuine Bug

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

You're supposed to be right, Dave; that's what I always thought too. Trouble is, with troublesome apps, such as our beloved Ice, you need all the help you can get. Maybe it's psychological; shoot, I'd try a rabbit's foot, if I thought it would help.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar" Carlson
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 11:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

Ted,

I thought that pressing Enter on a link in the list was the same as tabbing to the activate link button. What is the distinction, if I'm wrong?

Dave Carlson
Soon-to-be Oregonian, retired, full-time Farfar, musician, and woodworker

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 5:43 AM
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug


When in a links list, you can either enter on the desired link, tab over and
enter on go to link, or tab over again and enter on activate link--just a
little extra incentive, you might say. I guess JAWS has had it around for
a long time, but only recently have I discovered its utility.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:32 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

Hmm, I don't think I know that one. What is the activate links command?


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Mar 24, 2014, at 7:58 AM, "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...>
wrote:

Tom, do you ever use the "Activate Link" command? I've gotten into the
habit of using it here at work, because certain links in our main database
can be really stubborn.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Also seems to very from site to site at times. Links on some pages will
work one day and not another day. Windows 7 Pro, IE10, and Jaws 15 Pro.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of T.
Civitello
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

I have had this problem. Running Jaws 15 under Windows 7. In fact I
often come across links that Will not activate when pressing enter. I
can usually get them to go with the Jaws cursor, although the Route
Jaws to PC usually doesn't work very well. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Just tried this out on IE 11 on a Win7 machine running JFW 15 Pro. The
command seems to work as intended. I exicuted this Jaws command while on
edit fields, buttons, combo boxes and checkboxes and every time I selected
a different form field be with the the spacebar or enter button, I was
taken to that spot. I tried it from different edit fields on different
webpages and nothing buggy happened.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: A Genuine Bug

Before I submit the following to Freedom Scientific, I thought I would
confirm, with this esteemed group, what I think, at least, is a bug in
JAWS 15.

I've been genuinely satisfied with JAWS 15, and it has a couple of
advantages over JAWS 14 that are particularly useful to me.

Here, however, is the problem, though I admit it is not a big one.

I have confirmed this in both Windows 8 and Windows 7. I have found this
in at least the last 3 versions of Internet Explorer.
Not sure if it exists in FireFox. I rarely use FireFox because I need to
use a document management system that only half works in FireFox.

Anyway, here is the problem:

When in IE, if I press Jaws Key plus F-5 I should get a list of form
fields in a kind of dialog box. Using first letter navigation, I can hit
the field I'm looking for right away. If I hit enter on the name of that
field in the Jaws-created dialog box, I should be taken to that form
field. In Jaws 14, that seemed to work without flaw. In Jaws 15 it too
seems to work when, at the time of pressing Jaws key plus F-5, one is
sitting on a radio button, a check box, or a combo box. If, however, one
is sitting on an edit field, it doesn't work. The dialog box appears, and
I can navigate to the desired name in that dialog box, but when I activate
it (by hitting ENTER or hitting tab and space bar) the dialog box
disappears, and I'm left in the same edit field as when I pressed the form
field command (Jaws key plus F-5).

That, therefore, makes the exercise useless. The obvious work-around is
simply to make sure I'm not on an edit field when I press Jaws Key plus
F-5.
That, however, as I hope you agree, is less than elegant. <SMILE>





Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: A Genuine Bug

Dave...
 

Ted,

I thought that pressing Enter on a link in the list was the same as tabbing
to the activate link button. What is the distinction, if I'm wrong?

Dave Carlson
Soon-to-be Oregonian, retired, full-time Farfar, musician, and woodworker

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 5:43 AM
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug


When in a links list, you can either enter on the desired link, tab over and
enter on go to link, or tab over again and enter on activate link--just a
little extra incentive, you might say. I guess JAWS has had it around for
a long time, but only recently have I discovered its utility.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:32 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

Hmm, I don't think I know that one. What is the activate links command?


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Mar 24, 2014, at 7:58 AM, "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...>
wrote:

Tom, do you ever use the "Activate Link" command? I've gotten into the
habit of using it here at work, because certain links in our main database
can be really stubborn.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Also seems to very from site to site at times. Links on some pages will
work one day and not another day. Windows 7 Pro, IE10, and Jaws 15 Pro.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of T.
Civitello
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

I have had this problem. Running Jaws 15 under Windows 7. In fact I
often come across links that Will not activate when pressing enter. I
can usually get them to go with the Jaws cursor, although the Route
Jaws to PC usually doesn't work very well. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Just tried this out on IE 11 on a Win7 machine running JFW 15 Pro. The
command seems to work as intended. I exicuted this Jaws command while on
edit fields, buttons, combo boxes and checkboxes and every time I selected
a different form field be with the the spacebar or enter button, I was
taken to that spot. I tried it from different edit fields on different
webpages and nothing buggy happened.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: A Genuine Bug

Before I submit the following to Freedom Scientific, I thought I would
confirm, with this esteemed group, what I think, at least, is a bug in
JAWS 15.

I've been genuinely satisfied with JAWS 15, and it has a couple of
advantages over JAWS 14 that are particularly useful to me.

Here, however, is the problem, though I admit it is not a big one.

I have confirmed this in both Windows 8 and Windows 7. I have found this
in at least the last 3 versions of Internet Explorer.
Not sure if it exists in FireFox. I rarely use FireFox because I need to
use a document management system that only half works in FireFox.

Anyway, here is the problem:

When in IE, if I press Jaws Key plus F-5 I should get a list of form
fields in a kind of dialog box. Using first letter navigation, I can hit
the field I'm looking for right away. If I hit enter on the name of that
field in the Jaws-created dialog box, I should be taken to that form
field. In Jaws 14, that seemed to work without flaw. In Jaws 15 it too
seems to work when, at the time of pressing Jaws key plus F-5, one is
sitting on a radio button, a check box, or a combo box. If, however, one
is sitting on an edit field, it doesn't work. The dialog box appears, and
I can navigate to the desired name in that dialog box, but when I activate
it (by hitting ENTER or hitting tab and space bar) the dialog box
disappears, and I'm left in the same edit field as when I pressed the form
field command (Jaws key plus F-5).

That, therefore, makes the exercise useless. The obvious work-around is
simply to make sure I'm not on an edit field when I press Jaws Key plus
F-5.
That, however, as I hope you agree, is less than elegant. <SMILE>





Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: A Genuine Bug

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

You're entirely welcome. I get a lot from this list; it's nice to throw one in now and then.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:48 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Thanks Ted. That answers my question. Best, JB

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

When in a links list, you can either enter on the desired link, tab over and enter on go to link, or tab over again and enter on activate link--just a little extra incentive, you might say. I guess JAWS has had it around for a long time, but only recently have I discovered its utility.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:32 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

Hmm, I don't think I know that one. What is the activate links command?


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Mar 24, 2014, at 7:58 AM, "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...> wrote:

Tom, do you ever use the "Activate Link" command? I've gotten into the habit of using it here at work, because certain links in our main database can be really stubborn.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Also seems to very from site to site at times. Links on some pages will work one day and not another day. Windows 7 Pro, IE10, and Jaws 15 Pro.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of T.
Civitello
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

I have had this problem. Running Jaws 15 under Windows 7. In fact I
often come across links that Will not activate when pressing enter. I
can usually get them to go with the Jaws cursor, although the Route
Jaws to PC usually doesn't work very well. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Just tried this out on IE 11 on a Win7 machine running JFW 15 Pro. The command seems to work as intended. I exicuted this Jaws command while on edit fields, buttons, combo boxes and checkboxes and every time I selected a different form field be with the the spacebar or enter button, I was taken to that spot. I tried it from different edit fields on different webpages and nothing buggy happened.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: A Genuine Bug

Before I submit the following to Freedom Scientific, I thought I would confirm, with this esteemed group, what I think, at least, is a bug in JAWS 15.

I've been genuinely satisfied with JAWS 15, and it has a couple of advantages over JAWS 14 that are particularly useful to me.

Here, however, is the problem, though I admit it is not a big one.

I have confirmed this in both Windows 8 and Windows 7. I have found this in at least the last 3 versions of Internet Explorer.
Not sure if it exists in FireFox. I rarely use FireFox because I need to use a document management system that only half works in FireFox.

Anyway, here is the problem:

When in IE, if I press Jaws Key plus F-5 I should get a list of form fields in a kind of dialog box. Using first letter navigation, I can hit the field I'm looking for right away. If I hit enter on the name of that field in the Jaws-created dialog box, I should be taken to that form field. In Jaws 14, that seemed to work without flaw. In Jaws 15 it too seems to work when, at the time of pressing Jaws key plus F-5, one is sitting on a radio button, a check box, or a combo box. If, however, one is sitting on an edit field, it doesn't work. The dialog box appears, and I can navigate to the desired name in that dialog box, but when I activate it (by hitting ENTER or hitting tab and space bar) the dialog box disappears, and I'm left in the same edit field as when I pressed the form field command (Jaws key plus F-5).

That, therefore, makes the exercise useless. The obvious work-around is simply to make sure I'm not on an edit field when I press Jaws Key plus F-5.
That, however, as I hope you agree, is less than elegant. <SMILE>





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I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



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Re: A Genuine Bug

judith bron
 

Thanks Ted. That answers my question. Best, JB

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

When in a links list, you can either enter on the desired link, tab over and enter on go to link, or tab over again and enter on activate link--just a little extra incentive, you might say. I guess JAWS has had it around for a long time, but only recently have I discovered its utility.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:32 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

Hmm, I don't think I know that one. What is the activate links command?


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Mar 24, 2014, at 7:58 AM, "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...> wrote:

Tom, do you ever use the "Activate Link" command? I've gotten into the habit of using it here at work, because certain links in our main database can be really stubborn.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Also seems to very from site to site at times. Links on some pages will work one day and not another day. Windows 7 Pro, IE10, and Jaws 15 Pro.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of T.
Civitello
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

I have had this problem. Running Jaws 15 under Windows 7. In fact I
often come across links that Will not activate when pressing enter. I
can usually get them to go with the Jaws cursor, although the Route
Jaws to PC usually doesn't work very well. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Just tried this out on IE 11 on a Win7 machine running JFW 15 Pro. The command seems to work as intended. I exicuted this Jaws command while on edit fields, buttons, combo boxes and checkboxes and every time I selected a different form field be with the the spacebar or enter button, I was taken to that spot. I tried it from different edit fields on different webpages and nothing buggy happened.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: A Genuine Bug

Before I submit the following to Freedom Scientific, I thought I would confirm, with this esteemed group, what I think, at least, is a bug in JAWS 15.

I've been genuinely satisfied with JAWS 15, and it has a couple of advantages over JAWS 14 that are particularly useful to me.

Here, however, is the problem, though I admit it is not a big one.

I have confirmed this in both Windows 8 and Windows 7. I have found this in at least the last 3 versions of Internet Explorer.
Not sure if it exists in FireFox. I rarely use FireFox because I need to use a document management system that only half works in FireFox.

Anyway, here is the problem:

When in IE, if I press Jaws Key plus F-5 I should get a list of form fields in a kind of dialog box. Using first letter navigation, I can hit the field I'm looking for right away. If I hit enter on the name of that field in the Jaws-created dialog box, I should be taken to that form field. In Jaws 14, that seemed to work without flaw. In Jaws 15 it too seems to work when, at the time of pressing Jaws key plus F-5, one is sitting on a radio button, a check box, or a combo box. If, however, one is sitting on an edit field, it doesn't work. The dialog box appears, and I can navigate to the desired name in that dialog box, but when I activate it (by hitting ENTER or hitting tab and space bar) the dialog box disappears, and I'm left in the same edit field as when I pressed the form field command (Jaws key plus F-5).

That, therefore, makes the exercise useless. The obvious work-around is simply to make sure I'm not on an edit field when I press Jaws Key plus F-5.
That, however, as I hope you agree, is less than elegant. <SMILE>





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I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



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Re: A Genuine Bug

judith bron
 

I just went to insert f7 on the mazella site and got nothing but site links. JB

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

It is one of the options available from the links list when using insert plus F7. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimberly
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 5:32 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

Hmm, I don't think I know that one. What is the activate links command?


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Mar 24, 2014, at 7:58 AM, "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)"
<Ted.Lisle@...>
wrote:

Tom, do you ever use the "Activate Link" command? I've gotten into
the habit of using it here at work, because certain links in our main
database can be really stubborn.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Also seems to very from site to site at times. Links on some pages
will work one day and not another day. Windows 7 Pro, IE10, and Jaws 15 Pro.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of T.
Civitello
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

I have had this problem. Running Jaws 15 under Windows 7. In fact I
often come across links that Will not activate when pressing enter. I
can usually get them to go with the Jaws cursor, although the Route
Jaws to PC usually doesn't work very well. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Just tried this out on IE 11 on a Win7 machine running JFW 15 Pro. The
command seems to work as intended. I exicuted this Jaws command while
on edit fields, buttons, combo boxes and checkboxes and every time I
selected a different form field be with the the spacebar or enter
button, I was taken to that spot. I tried it from different edit
fields on different webpages and nothing buggy happened.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: A Genuine Bug

Before I submit the following to Freedom Scientific, I thought I would
confirm, with this esteemed group, what I think, at least, is a bug in
JAWS 15.

I've been genuinely satisfied with JAWS 15, and it has a couple of
advantages over JAWS 14 that are particularly useful to me.

Here, however, is the problem, though I admit it is not a big one.

I have confirmed this in both Windows 8 and Windows 7. I have found
this in at least the last 3 versions of Internet Explorer.
Not sure if it exists in FireFox. I rarely use FireFox because I need
to use a document management system that only half works in FireFox.

Anyway, here is the problem:

When in IE, if I press Jaws Key plus F-5 I should get a list of form
fields in a kind of dialog box. Using first letter navigation, I can
hit the field I'm looking for right away. If I hit enter on the name
of that field in the Jaws-created dialog box, I should be taken to
that form field. In Jaws 14, that seemed to work without flaw. In
Jaws 15 it too seems to work when, at the time of pressing Jaws key
plus F-5, one is sitting on a radio button, a check box, or a combo
box. If, however, one is sitting on an edit field, it doesn't work.
The dialog box appears, and I can navigate to the desired name in that
dialog box, but when I activate it (by hitting ENTER or hitting tab
and space bar) the dialog box disappears, and I'm left in the same
edit field as when I pressed the form field command (Jaws key plus F-5).

That, therefore, makes the exercise useless. The obvious work-around
is simply to make sure I'm not on an edit field when I press Jaws Key
plus F-5.
That, however, as I hope you agree, is less than elegant. <SMILE>





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Re: A Genuine Bug

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

When in a links list, you can either enter on the desired link, tab over and enter on go to link, or tab over again and enter on activate link--just a little extra incentive, you might say. I guess JAWS has had it around for a long time, but only recently have I discovered its utility.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:32 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

Hmm, I don't think I know that one. What is the activate links command?


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Mar 24, 2014, at 7:58 AM, "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...> wrote:

Tom, do you ever use the "Activate Link" command? I've gotten into the habit of using it here at work, because certain links in our main database can be really stubborn.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Also seems to very from site to site at times. Links on some pages will work one day and not another day. Windows 7 Pro, IE10, and Jaws 15 Pro.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of T.
Civitello
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

I have had this problem. Running Jaws 15 under Windows 7. In fact I
often come across links that Will not activate when pressing enter. I
can usually get them to go with the Jaws cursor, although the Route
Jaws to PC usually doesn't work very well. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Just tried this out on IE 11 on a Win7 machine running JFW 15 Pro. The command seems to work as intended. I exicuted this Jaws command while on edit fields, buttons, combo boxes and checkboxes and every time I selected a different form field be with the the spacebar or enter button, I was taken to that spot. I tried it from different edit fields on different webpages and nothing buggy happened.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: A Genuine Bug

Before I submit the following to Freedom Scientific, I thought I would confirm, with this esteemed group, what I think, at least, is a bug in JAWS 15.

I've been genuinely satisfied with JAWS 15, and it has a couple of advantages over JAWS 14 that are particularly useful to me.

Here, however, is the problem, though I admit it is not a big one.

I have confirmed this in both Windows 8 and Windows 7. I have found this in at least the last 3 versions of Internet Explorer.
Not sure if it exists in FireFox. I rarely use FireFox because I need to use a document management system that only half works in FireFox.

Anyway, here is the problem:

When in IE, if I press Jaws Key plus F-5 I should get a list of form fields in a kind of dialog box. Using first letter navigation, I can hit the field I'm looking for right away. If I hit enter on the name of that field in the Jaws-created dialog box, I should be taken to that form field. In Jaws 14, that seemed to work without flaw. In Jaws 15 it too seems to work when, at the time of pressing Jaws key plus F-5, one is sitting on a radio button, a check box, or a combo box. If, however, one is sitting on an edit field, it doesn't work. The dialog box appears, and I can navigate to the desired name in that dialog box, but when I activate it (by hitting ENTER or hitting tab and space bar) the dialog box disappears, and I'm left in the same edit field as when I pressed the form field command (Jaws key plus F-5).

That, therefore, makes the exercise useless. The obvious work-around is simply to make sure I'm not on an edit field when I press Jaws Key plus F-5.
That, however, as I hope you agree, is less than elegant. <SMILE>





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Re: A Genuine Bug

T. Civitello
 

It is one of the options available from the links list when using insert plus F7. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimberly
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 5:32 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

Hmm, I don't think I know that one. What is the activate links command?


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Mar 24, 2014, at 7:58 AM, "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...> wrote:

Tom, do you ever use the "Activate Link" command? I've gotten into the habit of using it here at work, because certain links in our main database can be really stubborn.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Also seems to very from site to site at times. Links on some pages will work one day and not another day. Windows 7 Pro, IE10, and Jaws 15 Pro.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

I have had this problem. Running Jaws 15 under Windows 7. In fact I often come across links that Will not activate when pressing enter. I can usually get them to go with the Jaws cursor, although the Route Jaws to PC usually doesn't work very well. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Just tried this out on IE 11 on a Win7 machine running JFW 15 Pro. The command seems to work as intended. I exicuted this Jaws command while on edit fields, buttons, combo boxes and checkboxes and every time I selected a different form field be with the the spacebar or enter button, I was taken to that spot. I tried it from different edit fields on different webpages and nothing buggy happened.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: A Genuine Bug

Before I submit the following to Freedom Scientific, I thought I would confirm, with this esteemed group, what I think, at least, is a bug in JAWS 15.

I've been genuinely satisfied with JAWS 15, and it has a couple of advantages over JAWS 14 that are particularly useful to me.

Here, however, is the problem, though I admit it is not a big one.

I have confirmed this in both Windows 8 and Windows 7. I have found this in at least the last 3 versions of Internet Explorer.
Not sure if it exists in FireFox. I rarely use FireFox because I need to use a document management system that only half works in FireFox.

Anyway, here is the problem:

When in IE, if I press Jaws Key plus F-5 I should get a list of form fields in a kind of dialog box. Using first letter navigation, I can hit the field I'm looking for right away. If I hit enter on the name of that field in the Jaws-created dialog box, I should be taken to that form field. In Jaws 14, that seemed to work without flaw. In Jaws 15 it too seems to work when, at the time of pressing Jaws key plus F-5, one is sitting on a radio button, a check box, or a combo box. If, however, one is sitting on an edit field, it doesn't work. The dialog box appears, and I can navigate to the desired name in that dialog box, but when I activate it (by hitting ENTER or hitting tab and space bar) the dialog box disappears, and I'm left in the same edit field as when I pressed the form field command (Jaws key plus F-5).

That, therefore, makes the exercise useless. The obvious work-around is simply to make sure I'm not on an edit field when I press Jaws Key plus F-5.
That, however, as I hope you agree, is less than elegant. <SMILE>





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Re: A Genuine Bug

Kimber Gardner
 

Hmm, I don't think I know that one. What is the activate links command?


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Mar 24, 2014, at 7:58 AM, "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...> wrote:

Tom, do you ever use the "Activate Link" command? I've gotten into the habit of using it here at work, because certain links in our main database can be really stubborn.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Also seems to very from site to site at times. Links on some pages will work one day and not another day. Windows 7 Pro, IE10, and Jaws 15 Pro.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

I have had this problem. Running Jaws 15 under Windows 7. In fact I often come across links that Will not activate when pressing enter. I can usually get them to go with the Jaws cursor, although the Route Jaws to PC usually doesn't work very well. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Just tried this out on IE 11 on a Win7 machine running JFW 15 Pro. The command seems to work as intended. I exicuted this Jaws command while on edit fields, buttons, combo boxes and checkboxes and every time I selected a different form field be with the the spacebar or enter button, I was taken to that spot. I tried it from different edit fields on different webpages and nothing buggy happened.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: A Genuine Bug

Before I submit the following to Freedom Scientific, I thought I would confirm, with this esteemed group, what I think, at least, is a bug in JAWS 15.

I've been genuinely satisfied with JAWS 15, and it has a couple of advantages over JAWS 14 that are particularly useful to me.

Here, however, is the problem, though I admit it is not a big one.

I have confirmed this in both Windows 8 and Windows 7. I have found this in at least the last 3 versions of Internet Explorer.
Not sure if it exists in FireFox. I rarely use FireFox because I need to use a document management system that only half works in FireFox.

Anyway, here is the problem:

When in IE, if I press Jaws Key plus F-5 I should get a list of form fields in a kind of dialog box. Using first letter navigation, I can hit the field I'm looking for right away. If I hit enter on the name of that field in the Jaws-created dialog box, I should be taken to that form field. In Jaws 14, that seemed to work without flaw. In Jaws 15 it too seems to work when, at the time of pressing Jaws key plus F-5, one is sitting on a radio button, a check box, or a combo box. If, however, one is sitting on an edit field, it doesn't work. The dialog box appears, and I can navigate to the desired name in that dialog box, but when I activate it (by hitting ENTER or hitting tab and space bar) the dialog box disappears, and I'm left in the same edit field as when I pressed the form field command (Jaws key plus F-5).

That, therefore, makes the exercise useless. The obvious work-around is simply to make sure I'm not on an edit field when I press Jaws Key plus F-5.
That, however, as I hope you agree, is less than elegant. <SMILE>





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Re: A Genuine Bug

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Tom, do you ever use the "Activate Link" command? I've gotten into the habit of using it here at work, because certain links in our main database can be really stubborn.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Also seems to very from site to site at times. Links on some pages will work one day and not another day. Windows 7 Pro, IE10, and Jaws 15 Pro.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Genuine Bug

I have had this problem. Running Jaws 15 under Windows 7. In fact I often come across links that Will not activate when pressing enter. I can usually get them to go with the Jaws cursor, although the Route Jaws to PC usually doesn't work very well. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Genuine Bug

Just tried this out on IE 11 on a Win7 machine running JFW 15 Pro. The command seems to work as intended. I exicuted this Jaws command while on edit fields, buttons, combo boxes and checkboxes and every time I selected a different form field be with the the spacebar or enter button, I was taken to that spot. I tried it from different edit fields on different webpages and nothing buggy happened.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: A Genuine Bug

Before I submit the following to Freedom Scientific, I thought I would confirm, with this esteemed group, what I think, at least, is a bug in JAWS 15.

I've been genuinely satisfied with JAWS 15, and it has a couple of advantages over JAWS 14 that are particularly useful to me.

Here, however, is the problem, though I admit it is not a big one.

I have confirmed this in both Windows 8 and Windows 7. I have found this in at least the last 3 versions of Internet Explorer.
Not sure if it exists in FireFox. I rarely use FireFox because I need to use a document management system that only half works in FireFox.

Anyway, here is the problem:

When in IE, if I press Jaws Key plus F-5 I should get a list of form fields in a kind of dialog box. Using first letter navigation, I can hit the field I'm looking for right away. If I hit enter on the name of that field in the Jaws-created dialog box, I should be taken to that form field. In Jaws 14, that seemed to work without flaw. In Jaws 15 it too seems to work when, at the time of pressing Jaws key plus F-5, one is sitting on a radio button, a check box, or a combo box. If, however, one is sitting on an edit field, it doesn't work. The dialog box appears, and I can navigate to the desired name in that dialog box, but when I activate it (by hitting ENTER or hitting tab and space bar) the dialog box disappears, and I'm left in the same edit field as when I pressed the form field command (Jaws key plus F-5).

That, therefore, makes the exercise useless. The obvious work-around is simply to make sure I'm not on an edit field when I press Jaws Key plus F-5.
That, however, as I hope you agree, is less than elegant. <SMILE>





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Re: tablet jaws and focus blue

Zdeněk Vopat <vopat@...>
 

I am using the focus blue, are you using the same display or is anyone is
using itwith a tablet?
Many thanks.
Zdenek

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 12:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: tablet jaws and focus blue

The new Microsoft surface Pro comes to mind. Not sure if it is compatible
with the braille display device that you're using but check it out.

Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

On Mar 23, 2014, at 4:30 PM, Zdeněk Vopat <vopat@...> wrote:

Hello listers:
I know that this topic was discussed here recently, but I was not paying
attention. I am looking for a tablet that would support jaws screen
reading
software, but which would also support focus blue braille display.
Specifically a tablet where I could navigate the screen by using focus
blue
so I would not have to use my fingers on a tablet screen.
Is there such a device on the market?
Many thanks.
Zdenek



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim
(CDPH-OLS)
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 3:56 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: footnotes and Microsoft word

I recently learned of a command, windows key plus ;, which opens up a list
box that gives you the options of accessing four fields, comments,
footnotes, endnotes, and revisions. Pressing enter on your choice opens a
window that I believe contains text you can select and copy. A caveat: I
have Windows 7 and Word 2010, and have not tried this command with any
other
operating system or Word version.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Zdenek Vopat
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:38 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: footnotes and microsoft word

Hello listers:
I have a microsoft word document full of footnotes. Is there anyway how I
can stop the say all reading at each footnote and than decide whether I
want
to read the footnote or not?
Also what if I want to copy the content of the footnote to another
document?
I know that while standing on the footnote alt-shift-e reads the content
of
the footnote, but how can I copy the content of that footnote to a
clickboard?
Many thanks.
Zdenek


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: placing bookmarks in WORD 2010 file

All absolutely correct. Nice job.
A couple of suggestions.
If you use Bookmarks a lot, as I do, before the last keystroke that opens
the Bookmark dialog box, hit the applications key (shift f-10) instead.
Then, put insert bookmark on the QAT.
I did. Now, to insert or go to a bookmark, I just press alt plus
2
Then, as you add a bookmark, after you type it in (remember no spaces),
just
hit Alt plus A.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:33 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: placing bookmarks in WORD 2010 file

Look in the insert ribbon by pressing alt n, tab to the links option and
press spacebar. Press the tab key until you land on bookmark which should
be one tab and press spacebar, name the bookmark and finish off by tabbing
to add and pressing spacebar.
You will then land back in your document, turn on quick keys, and press B
and shift b to navigate between the bookmarks.
Hth

Kimsan Song Access Technology Trainer:
Phone: 509.619.4646
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Raymond
Jantz
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:15 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: placing bookmarks in WORD 2010 file

Hello list,
Can anyone tell me how to place bookmarks in a WORD 2010 file with JAWS
12?
Thanks,
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Re: Is this a genuine bug

Brad Martin
 

I think I've seen this behavior myself, but I can't remember where I've seen it. I have a similar situation in Taxwise when I'm trying to change the status of a tax return. I select a status in a combo box, but instead of changing the status, I get bounced out of the table. If I go back and try again I'm successful. This happens in Internet Explorer for sure. I can't test it in other browsers, because Taxwise will only work with Internet Explorer. I'll try to watch for other instances of this behavior.

Brad

On 3/23/2014 9:20 PM, Ed Marquette wrote:
I raise this as something I consider to be a bug. I admit,
however, that others may think that the below-described behavior
is appropriate and useful. I cannot see how, but I admit my
limited perspective.

I cannot say this happens all the time, but it happens often
enough that I think it is a pattern in all tables of check boxes.
Since what I'm describing is a fairly common function, especially
in Webmail applications, I'm hoping someone can confirm or refute
my observations. Perhaps the problem just appears in the
particular Web applications I use.

Here is the problem:

In a number of applications a Website will display a list of items
from which the user may make selections. I find this is usually
implemented through a table. Let's use webmail as a common
example. In this table, one will find, in each row of the table,
a checkbox in the first cell, a "from" field in the next cell, the
subject in the next cell, and a "date" field in the next cell. As
I said, this pattern repeats through each row of the table.

One can, by checking the check boxes, identify, for example, the
useless email that one wants to delete, leaving the good stuff to
review. So, one can go down through the check boxes, checking the
ones for deletion and skipping the others.

This works fine after the second check box has been checked. It
is Jaws's immediate behavior after the first check box has been
checked that is at issue. Jaws, instead of leaving the virtual
cursor in the cell with the check box that has just been checked,
jumps out of the table entirely. One has to navigate back to the
check box that has just been checked to continue this checking
process.

Once the second check box has been checked, Jaws is smart enough
to stay put after checking the second check box. It is just the
first check box that throws Jaws out of the table.

I'm happy to report this to Freedom Scientific as a bug, but first
I'd like to know if others experience this in their Web
applications and, perhaps more importantly, if others see the
behavior I've described as problematic. If it is desirable in
some situations, I'm happy to remain silent.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

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Is this a genuine bug

Ed Marquette <marquette.ed@...>
 

I raise this as something I consider to be a bug. I admit,
however, that others may think that the below-described behavior
is appropriate and useful. I cannot see how, but I admit my
limited perspective.

I cannot say this happens all the time, but it happens often
enough that I think it is a pattern in all tables of check boxes.
Since what I'm describing is a fairly common function, especially
in Webmail applications, I'm hoping someone can confirm or refute
my observations. Perhaps the problem just appears in the
particular Web applications I use.

Here is the problem:

In a number of applications a Website will display a list of items
from which the user may make selections. I find this is usually
implemented through a table. Let's use webmail as a common
example. In this table, one will find, in each row of the table,
a checkbox in the first cell, a "from" field in the next cell, the
subject in the next cell, and a "date" field in the next cell. As
I said, this pattern repeats through each row of the table.

One can, by checking the check boxes, identify, for example, the
useless email that one wants to delete, leaving the good stuff to
review. So, one can go down through the check boxes, checking the
ones for deletion and skipping the others.

This works fine after the second check box has been checked. It
is Jaws's immediate behavior after the first check box has been
checked that is at issue. Jaws, instead of leaving the virtual
cursor in the cell with the check box that has just been checked,
jumps out of the table entirely. One has to navigate back to the
check box that has just been checked to continue this checking
process.

Once the second check box has been checked, Jaws is smart enough
to stay put after checking the second check box. It is just the
first check box that throws Jaws out of the table.

I'm happy to report this to Freedom Scientific as a bug, but first
I'd like to know if others experience this in their Web
applications and, perhaps more importantly, if others see the
behavior I've described as problematic. If it is desirable in
some situations, I'm happy to remain silent.





Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: tablet jaws and focus blue

Feliciano G
 

The new Microsoft surface Pro comes to mind. Not sure if it is compatible with the braille display device that you're using but check it out.

Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

On Mar 23, 2014, at 4:30 PM, Zdeněk Vopat <vopat@...> wrote:

Hello listers:
I know that this topic was discussed here recently, but I was not paying
attention. I am looking for a tablet that would support jaws screen reading
software, but which would also support focus blue braille display.
Specifically a tablet where I could navigate the screen by using focus blue
so I would not have to use my fingers on a tablet screen.
Is there such a device on the market?
Many thanks.
Zdenek



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim
(CDPH-OLS)
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 3:56 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: footnotes and Microsoft word

I recently learned of a command, windows key plus ;, which opens up a list
box that gives you the options of accessing four fields, comments,
footnotes, endnotes, and revisions. Pressing enter on your choice opens a
window that I believe contains text you can select and copy. A caveat: I
have Windows 7 and Word 2010, and have not tried this command with any other
operating system or Word version.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Zdenek Vopat
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:38 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: footnotes and microsoft word

Hello listers:
I have a microsoft word document full of footnotes. Is there anyway how I
can stop the say all reading at each footnote and than decide whether I want
to read the footnote or not?
Also what if I want to copy the content of the footnote to another document?
I know that while standing on the footnote alt-shift-e reads the content of
the footnote, but how can I copy the content of that footnote to a
clickboard?
Many thanks.
Zdenek


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: placing bookmarks in WORD 2010 file

All absolutely correct. Nice job.
A couple of suggestions.
If you use Bookmarks a lot, as I do, before the last keystroke that opens
the Bookmark dialog box, hit the applications key (shift f-10) instead.
Then, put insert bookmark on the QAT.
I did. Now, to insert or go to a bookmark, I just press alt plus
2
Then, as you add a bookmark, after you type it in (remember no spaces), just
hit Alt plus A.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:33 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: placing bookmarks in WORD 2010 file

Look in the insert ribbon by pressing alt n, tab to the links option and
press spacebar. Press the tab key until you land on bookmark which should
be one tab and press spacebar, name the bookmark and finish off by tabbing
to add and pressing spacebar.
You will then land back in your document, turn on quick keys, and press B
and shift b to navigate between the bookmarks.
Hth

Kimsan Song Access Technology Trainer:
Phone: 509.619.4646
Website: www.BlindAccessTraining.com



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Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:15 PM
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Subject: placing bookmarks in WORD 2010 file

Hello list,
Can anyone tell me how to place bookmarks in a WORD 2010 file with JAWS 12?
Thanks,
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tablet jaws and focus blue

Zdeněk Vopat <vopat@...>
 

Hello listers:
I know that this topic was discussed here recently, but I was not paying
attention. I am looking for a tablet that would support jaws screen reading
software, but which would also support focus blue braille display.
Specifically a tablet where I could navigate the screen by using focus blue
so I would not have to use my fingers on a tablet screen.
Is there such a device on the market?
Many thanks.
Zdenek

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim
(CDPH-OLS)
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 3:56 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: footnotes and Microsoft word

I recently learned of a command, windows key plus ;, which opens up a list
box that gives you the options of accessing four fields, comments,
footnotes, endnotes, and revisions. Pressing enter on your choice opens a
window that I believe contains text you can select and copy. A caveat: I
have Windows 7 and Word 2010, and have not tried this command with any other
operating system or Word version.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Zdenek Vopat
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:38 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: footnotes and microsoft word

Hello listers:
I have a microsoft word document full of footnotes. Is there anyway how I
can stop the say all reading at each footnote and than decide whether I want
to read the footnote or not?
Also what if I want to copy the content of the footnote to another document?
I know that while standing on the footnote alt-shift-e reads the content of
the footnote, but how can I copy the content of that footnote to a
clickboard?
Many thanks.
Zdenek


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: placing bookmarks in WORD 2010 file

All absolutely correct. Nice job.
A couple of suggestions.
If you use Bookmarks a lot, as I do, before the last keystroke that opens
the Bookmark dialog box, hit the applications key (shift f-10) instead.
Then, put insert bookmark on the QAT.
I did. Now, to insert or go to a bookmark, I just press alt plus
2
Then, as you add a bookmark, after you type it in (remember no spaces), just
hit Alt plus A.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:33 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: placing bookmarks in WORD 2010 file

Look in the insert ribbon by pressing alt n, tab to the links option and
press spacebar. Press the tab key until you land on bookmark which should
be one tab and press spacebar, name the bookmark and finish off by tabbing
to add and pressing spacebar.
You will then land back in your document, turn on quick keys, and press B
and shift b to navigate between the bookmarks.
Hth

Kimsan Song Access Technology Trainer:
Phone: 509.619.4646
Website: www.BlindAccessTraining.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Raymond Jantz
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:15 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: placing bookmarks in WORD 2010 file

Hello list,
Can anyone tell me how to place bookmarks in a WORD 2010 file with JAWS 12?
Thanks,
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Re: Winamp Alternative

Tom Lange
 

Ah, very good! So that llama is still in danger of getting his behind whipped.
Glad to know that Winamp will still be around even if the llama still gets a beating.
Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Brusco" <mrb620@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp Alternative


Radionomy.com acquired Winamp.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brent Harding" <brent@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: March 23, 2014 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp Alternative


If you were thinking of switching because of the old news of Winamp's
potential demise, it looks like another company has acquired Winamp and will
still be keeping it alive.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Ritter" <blindleben@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp Alternative


Hi Jim,

not sure what features WinAmp has, but I like Foobar. If you choose the
proper UI design, it's perfect for Screenreader usage, and with a couple
of addons it does everything I need to do.

Cheers

Michael

--
Blog:
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Am 23.03.2014 11:35, schrieb Jim L:
Heya folks,

Can anyone recommend a Winamp Alternative that works wonderful with Jaws
15
and Windows 7?
I'd like it to have all the features winamp has and the options and
features
are really Jaws friendly.

Cheers,

Jim



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Re: Winamp Alternative

Jean M <jemenzies@...>
 

So, what is the proper UI design for Foobar and the add-ins you speak of?

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Ritter
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 11:54 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Winamp Alternative

Hi Jim,

not sure what features WinAmp has, but I like Foobar. If you choose the
proper UI design, it's perfect for Screenreader usage, and with a couple
of addons it does everything I need to do.

Cheers

Michael

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Am 23.03.2014 11:35, schrieb Jim L:
Heya folks,

Can anyone recommend a Winamp Alternative that works wonderful with Jaws 15
and Windows 7?
I'd like it to have all the features winamp has and the options and features
are really Jaws friendly.

Cheers,

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Re: Winamp Alternative

Tom macha <toml614@...>
 

Yes I am on the list.






Tom Macha





From: Jim L
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎March‎ ‎23‎, ‎2014 ‎4‎:‎56‎ ‎PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.





Not at all, am having issues with the winamp media library and Jaws 15
And I am a very experienced user of winamp, it has been my default player
for 10 years and more

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Brent Harding
Sent: Monday, 24 March 2014 3:17 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Winamp Alternative

If you were thinking of switching because of the old news of Winamp's
potential demise, it looks like another company has acquired Winamp and will
still be keeping it alive.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Ritter" <blindleben@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp Alternative


Hi Jim,

not sure what features WinAmp has, but I like Foobar. If you choose the
proper UI design, it's perfect for Screenreader usage, and with a couple
of addons it does everything I need to do.

Cheers

Michael

--
Blog:
http://blindleben.blogspot.de


Am 23.03.2014 11:35, schrieb Jim L:
Heya folks,

Can anyone recommend a Winamp Alternative that works wonderful with Jaws
15
and Windows 7?
I'd like it to have all the features winamp has and the options and
features
are really Jaws friendly.

Cheers,

Jim



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Re: Winamp Alternative

Jim L
 

Not at all, am having issues with the winamp media library and Jaws 15
And I am a very experienced user of winamp, it has been my default player
for 10 years and more

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Brent Harding
Sent: Monday, 24 March 2014 3:17 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Winamp Alternative

If you were thinking of switching because of the old news of Winamp's
potential demise, it looks like another company has acquired Winamp and will
still be keeping it alive.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Ritter" <blindleben@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp Alternative


Hi Jim,

not sure what features WinAmp has, but I like Foobar. If you choose the
proper UI design, it's perfect for Screenreader usage, and with a couple
of addons it does everything I need to do.

Cheers

Michael

--
Blog:
http://blindleben.blogspot.de


Am 23.03.2014 11:35, schrieb Jim L:
Heya folks,

Can anyone recommend a Winamp Alternative that works wonderful with Jaws
15
and Windows 7?
I'd like it to have all the features winamp has and the options and
features
are really Jaws friendly.

Cheers,

Jim



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Re: Winamp Alternative

Mario
 

Radionomy.com acquired Winamp.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brent Harding" <brent@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: March 23, 2014 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp Alternative


If you were thinking of switching because of the old news of Winamp's
potential demise, it looks like another company has acquired Winamp and will
still be keeping it alive.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Ritter" <blindleben@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp Alternative


Hi Jim,

not sure what features WinAmp has, but I like Foobar. If you choose the
proper UI design, it's perfect for Screenreader usage, and with a couple
of addons it does everything I need to do.

Cheers

Michael

--
Blog:
http://blindleben.blogspot.de


Am 23.03.2014 11:35, schrieb Jim L:
Heya folks,

Can anyone recommend a Winamp Alternative that works wonderful with Jaws
15
and Windows 7?
I'd like it to have all the features winamp has and the options and
features
are really Jaws friendly.

Cheers,

Jim



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Re: Winamp Alternative

Brent Harding
 

If you were thinking of switching because of the old news of Winamp's potential demise, it looks like another company has acquired Winamp and will still be keeping it alive.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Ritter" <blindleben@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp Alternative


Hi Jim,

not sure what features WinAmp has, but I like Foobar. If you choose the proper UI design, it's perfect for Screenreader usage, and with a couple of addons it does everything I need to do.

Cheers

Michael

--
Blog:
http://blindleben.blogspot.de


Am 23.03.2014 11:35, schrieb Jim L:
Heya folks,

Can anyone recommend a Winamp Alternative that works wonderful with Jaws 15
and Windows 7?
I'd like it to have all the features winamp has and the options and features
are really Jaws friendly.

Cheers,

Jim



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