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real speak

Harris, Robert <harris.robert@...>
 

Do you have to use the CD to install Real Speak? I downloaded a few voices Friday night and want to use them. If I can do this without IT folks I'd love it but if not they will be getting called again this afternoon.


I'm in JAWS 13.0.718.


Bobby and Prince

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 12:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

John,

No, you're fine. Authorization uses the exact same code, it just removes the timeout feature.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Sherrer" <john@whitecane.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 09:57
Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws


I ran it on evaluation mode for a couple of months but now I have upgraded
from JAWS 13. I started with the JAWS 14 beta and then it converted to the
evaluation version. Maybe I should have removed the evaluation version and
then installed JAWS 14?
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Holdstock
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:09 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

Does JAWS work when you first fully restart your computer? I ask because I
have been having a problem with a JAWS error 6 message which causes jaws to
go in to demo mode and stop working after 40 minutes. If you are perhaps
getting this message or for some other reason jaws is running in demo mode
then you will find when you wake your computer up from sleep that jaws does
nothing as the demo mode has run out during the time the computer was
asleep. Is your jaws running in demo mode at all? Are you getting any
messages?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Sherrer
Sent: 22 March 2013 23:44
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

I just hit enter on the log on screen since I have no password.
I have tried alt tab.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

John,

It seems so obvious, but you don't mention here whether you re-enter your
Win7 password.

Assuming that's not the issue, have you tried a refresh with JAWS
key+escape? How about pressing alt+tab to move away from the screen,
release, and then alt+tab again to return to the screen?



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Sherrer
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:08 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Hi JAWS Users

When I close my laptop computer using JAWS 14 in W7 often when I start again
JAWS will tell me about the log on screen and then and I will press endter.
Then JAWS will not speak and I will have to force the computer off and start
again.
I have tried insert + space bar and then S, doing this twice.
I have tried to turn JAWS off and reload, no luck.

John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:54 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Hi All,

I got this link from,
Top Tech Tidbits, discussing handling irratic behavior with Jaws.



4) "Handling Erratic Behavior with AT" is an article that gives systematic
ideas for dealing with JAWS quirks:
http://juicystudio.com/article/handling-erratic-behaviour-at.php



Take care.
Mike
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Re: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

Dave...
 

John,

No, you're fine. Authorization uses the exact same code, it just removes the
timeout feature.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Sherrer" <john@whitecane.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 09:57
Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws


I ran it on evaluation mode for a couple of months but now I have upgraded
from JAWS 13. I started with the JAWS 14 beta and then it converted to the
evaluation version. Maybe I should have removed the evaluation version and
then installed JAWS 14?
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Holdstock
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:09 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

Does JAWS work when you first fully restart your computer? I ask because I
have been having a problem with a JAWS error 6 message which causes jaws to
go in to demo mode and stop working after 40 minutes. If you are perhaps
getting this message or for some other reason jaws is running in demo mode
then you will find when you wake your computer up from sleep that jaws does
nothing as the demo mode has run out during the time the computer was
asleep. Is your jaws running in demo mode at all? Are you getting any
messages?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Sherrer
Sent: 22 March 2013 23:44
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

I just hit enter on the log on screen since I have no password.
I have tried alt tab.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

John,

It seems so obvious, but you don't mention here whether you re-enter your
Win7 password.

Assuming that's not the issue, have you tried a refresh with JAWS
key+escape? How about pressing alt+tab to move away from the screen,
release, and then alt+tab again to return to the screen?



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Sherrer
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:08 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Hi JAWS Users

When I close my laptop computer using JAWS 14 in W7 often when I start again
JAWS will tell me about the log on screen and then and I will press endter.
Then JAWS will not speak and I will have to force the computer off and start
again.
I have tried insert + space bar and then S, doing this twice.
I have tried to turn JAWS off and reload, no luck.

John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:54 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Hi All,

I got this link from,
Top Tech Tidbits, discussing handling irratic behavior with Jaws.



4) "Handling Erratic Behavior with AT" is an article that gives systematic
ideas for dealing with JAWS quirks:
http://juicystudio.com/article/handling-erratic-behaviour-at.php



Take care.
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Re: Blatant Rant

Dave...
 

Steve,

And of course, you'll write this number into a text file that you can find
in the future, correct?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 05:44
Subject: Re: Blatant Rant


Exactly my plan. I was discussing this with another local JAWS user,
and we both agreed we haven't seen that number on any packaging since
versiion 7.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:32:30 -0700, you wrote:

Since you didn't record that number in a file somewhere, you will need to
wait until tomorrow, when you can call FS and ask them.

Annoying, but resolved with keeping a list of all your relevant
authorization, CD key, serial numbers, etc. in a text file somewhere.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 05:38
Subject: Blatant Rant


I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.

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Re: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

John ESherrer
 

I ran it on evaluation mode for a couple of months but now I have upgraded
from JAWS 13. I started with the JAWS 14 beta and then it converted to the
evaluation version. Maybe I should have removed the evaluation version and
then installed JAWS 14?
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Holdstock
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:09 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

Does JAWS work when you first fully restart your computer? I ask because I
have been having a problem with a JAWS error 6 message which causes jaws to
go in to demo mode and stop working after 40 minutes. If you are perhaps
getting this message or for some other reason jaws is running in demo mode
then you will find when you wake your computer up from sleep that jaws does
nothing as the demo mode has run out during the time the computer was
asleep. Is your jaws running in demo mode at all? Are you getting any
messages?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Sherrer
Sent: 22 March 2013 23:44
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

I just hit enter on the log on screen since I have no password.
I have tried alt tab.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

John,

It seems so obvious, but you don't mention here whether you re-enter your
Win7 password.

Assuming that's not the issue, have you tried a refresh with JAWS
key+escape? How about pressing alt+tab to move away from the screen,
release, and then alt+tab again to return to the screen?



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Sherrer
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:08 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Hi JAWS Users

When I close my laptop computer using JAWS 14 in W7 often when I start again
JAWS will tell me about the log on screen and then and I will press endter.
Then JAWS will not speak and I will have to force the computer off and start
again.
I have tried insert + space bar and then S, doing this twice.
I have tried to turn JAWS off and reload, no luck.

John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:54 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Hi All,

I got this link from,
Top Tech Tidbits, discussing handling irratic behavior with Jaws.



4) "Handling Erratic Behavior with AT" is an article that gives systematic
ideas for dealing with JAWS quirks:
http://juicystudio.com/article/handling-erratic-behaviour-at.php



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Re: IE 10, jaws 14, and google preferences

Soronel Haetir
 

Interesting, I have the same setup also and even the instant results
radio button reads correctly for me.

On 3/25/13, David Bailes <david_bailes@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Phil,
using the same combination, I don't have all of the problems.
The check box for the results page is ok, and the save button is also ok.
There is a problem with the group of radio buttons for setting instant
results.
If you're in forms mode and use an arrow key to change which option is
selected, then that option is checked visibily, and in practice, but jaws
reads it as unchecked. NVDA also reads it as unchecked.
It appears that the information whether one of these radio buttons is
checked is presented in a different way in ie10 compared to ie9 and that
jaws and nvda aren't picking up this information.

David.

original message:
I am running jaws v14.0.1534. I installed IE 10 under windows 7 pro 64-bit.


When I attempt to make changes to my preferences on the

www.google.com/preferences

page, I am not able to interact with most of the forms. I cannot check one
of the radio buttons for setting instant results.

Also, the check box for having result pages opened in a new window is
missing, and the save button is also missing.

I uninstalled IE 10, and everything is back to "normal".

Does anyone know if this problem might be an IE 10 issue, or how jaws is
working with ie 10?



Thanks

Phil

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Re: IE 10, jaws 14, and google preferences

David Bailes
 

Hi Phil,
using the same combination, I don't have all of the problems.
The check box for the results page is ok, and the save button is also ok.
There is a problem with the group of radio buttons for setting instant results.
If you're in forms mode and use an arrow key to change which option is selected, then that option is checked visibily, and in practice, but jaws reads it as unchecked. NVDA also reads it as unchecked.
It appears that the information whether one of these radio buttons is checked is presented in a different way in ie10 compared to ie9 and that jaws and nvda aren't picking up this information.
 
David.
 
original message:
I am running jaws v14.0.1534. I installed IE 10 under windows 7 pro 64-bit.

When I attempt to make changes to my preferences on the

www.google.com/preferences

page, I am not able to interact with most of the forms. I cannot check one
of the radio buttons for setting instant results.

Also, the check box for having result pages opened in a new window is
missing, and the save button is also missing.

I uninstalled IE 10, and everything is back to "normal".

Does anyone know if this problem might be an IE 10 issue, or how jaws is
working with ie 10?



Thanks

Phil


Re: Blatant Rant

Cristóbal
 

I have a copy of my authorization number brailled out in my rolodex along
with a text file saved in my dropbox folder because of this exact reason.

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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 5:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Blatant Rant

Exactly the purpose of my rant.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:20:32 -0400, you wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with
JAWS 6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS
provides this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time.
But I agree, we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS
release from seven versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a
whole weekend to obtain such basic information.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant

I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using the
Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization number
which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in both
print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using, which
was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on Windows NT
and above, the box it came in definitely did have an authorization
number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is long, long ago,
and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then, I'm sure when
updates come out, they are delivered directly from the company that
stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they can't possibly
be personalized with your very own authorization number. If that's
correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow morning
when FS technical support opens for business.

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Re: What do you know about how JAWS authorization works?

Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

I wish they would change this activation system. It really sucks.

On 25/03/2013, Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com> wrote:
That's what I'm a-doin'. I was just hoping somebody had some, ya know,
secret insite. LOL.

On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 09:10:33 -0400, you wrote:

Play it safe. Put everything into the machine, install any required
software
and/or updates, then authorize. Nothing you're doing *should* impact your
machine's lock code, but as you say FS's licensing system's been known to
be
somewhat confusing. So, just so you're not repeating yourself later,
install
everything you need first, then authorize.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: March 25, 2013 9:07 AM
To: jfw
Subject: What do you know about how JAWS authorization works?

This is the big mystery question. I have encountered things over the
years that have broken my authorizations such that I had to wind up
getting a dongle to solve one annoying problem, such as adding memory
or even adding a driver for a USB device which, when connected,
changes the machine's footprint ID, making JAWS think it's a different
machine. I am now faced with a computer that has as much memory in it
as it's going to get, but with one out of two possible installed
drives. I'll turn on the other drive, which is a BIOS tweak, before
proceeding with the following. I am planning on installing two more
drives which will be attached to a SATA controller card which I will
also be installing. I'm wondering which of these things will break my
authorization, causing me to have to get yet another ILM key, which I
don't want to do if I can avoid that hassle. So, should I just put
everything into the machine that's going to be put into it, then
authorize, or should I authorize first, then install the hardware if
doing that won't change the machine's ID?

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Re: What do you know about how JAWS authorization works?

Steve Matzura
 

That's what I'm a-doin'. I was just hoping somebody had some, ya know,
secret insite. LOL.

On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 09:10:33 -0400, you wrote:

Play it safe. Put everything into the machine, install any required software
and/or updates, then authorize. Nothing you're doing *should* impact your
machine's lock code, but as you say FS's licensing system's been known to be
somewhat confusing. So, just so you're not repeating yourself later, install
everything you need first, then authorize.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: March 25, 2013 9:07 AM
To: jfw
Subject: What do you know about how JAWS authorization works?

This is the big mystery question. I have encountered things over the
years that have broken my authorizations such that I had to wind up
getting a dongle to solve one annoying problem, such as adding memory
or even adding a driver for a USB device which, when connected,
changes the machine's footprint ID, making JAWS think it's a different
machine. I am now faced with a computer that has as much memory in it
as it's going to get, but with one out of two possible installed
drives. I'll turn on the other drive, which is a BIOS tweak, before
proceeding with the following. I am planning on installing two more
drives which will be attached to a SATA controller card which I will
also be installing. I'm wondering which of these things will break my
authorization, causing me to have to get yet another ILM key, which I
don't want to do if I can avoid that hassle. So, should I just put
everything into the machine that's going to be put into it, then
authorize, or should I authorize first, then install the hardware if
doing that won't change the machine's ID?

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Re: What do you know about how JAWS authorization works?

James Homuth
 

Play it safe. Put everything into the machine, install any required software
and/or updates, then authorize. Nothing you're doing *should* impact your
machine's lock code, but as you say FS's licensing system's been known to be
somewhat confusing. So, just so you're not repeating yourself later, install
everything you need first, then authorize.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: March 25, 2013 9:07 AM
To: jfw
Subject: What do you know about how JAWS authorization works?

This is the big mystery question. I have encountered things over the
years that have broken my authorizations such that I had to wind up
getting a dongle to solve one annoying problem, such as adding memory
or even adding a driver for a USB device which, when connected,
changes the machine's footprint ID, making JAWS think it's a different
machine. I am now faced with a computer that has as much memory in it
as it's going to get, but with one out of two possible installed
drives. I'll turn on the other drive, which is a BIOS tweak, before
proceeding with the following. I am planning on installing two more
drives which will be attached to a SATA controller card which I will
also be installing. I'm wondering which of these things will break my
authorization, causing me to have to get yet another ILM key, which I
don't want to do if I can avoid that hassle. So, should I just put
everything into the machine that's going to be put into it, then
authorize, or should I authorize first, then install the hardware if
doing that won't change the machine's ID?

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What do you know about how JAWS authorization works?

Steve Matzura
 

This is the big mystery question. I have encountered things over the
years that have broken my authorizations such that I had to wind up
getting a dongle to solve one annoying problem, such as adding memory
or even adding a driver for a USB device which, when connected,
changes the machine's footprint ID, making JAWS think it's a different
machine. I am now faced with a computer that has as much memory in it
as it's going to get, but with one out of two possible installed
drives. I'll turn on the other drive, which is a BIOS tweak, before
proceeding with the following. I am planning on installing two more
drives which will be attached to a SATA controller card which I will
also be installing. I'm wondering which of these things will break my
authorization, causing me to have to get yet another ILM key, which I
don't want to do if I can avoid that hassle. So, should I just put
everything into the machine that's going to be put into it, then
authorize, or should I authorize first, then install the hardware if
doing that won't change the machine's ID?


Re: Blatant Rant

Steve Matzura
 

Well that makes about as much sense as a screen door on a submarine.
Not to mention the fact that in my hand right thi second, I hold a
sleeve containing a version 14 installation CD, and on thesleeve in
braille it says "JAWS 14 SMA". What exactly is that even supposed to
mean? Does it mean this is my last version before an SMA renewal is
required? Does it mean the sleeve contains the SMA renewal disk like
the old days? Neither is true. The sleeve actually contains the
version 14 installation disk.

Well, it's just after 8:30 Eastern Time, I'll let you all know how
this shakes out after I call down there and learn what's what.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:25:35 +0200, you wrote:

As far as I get it, you will only get a new number once you either
upgrade, or once you get a new SMA. So if you have a active SMA wich
run for 2 years, then after 1 year, you will not get a new number
because the SMA is stil running. So the 20 digit number only change
when you upgrrade or renew SMA.

On 24/03/2013, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to obtain
such basic information.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant

I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.

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Re: Blatant Rant

Steve Matzura
 

Tom, I said the same thing last night to my local JAWS-using friend. I
have now spent over half an hour trying to find it and have come up
empty-handed. I don't know if it's obfuscated, or I'm just not looking
for the right thing. Either way, I'm off to get the info I need from
the horse's mouth. Then maybe I'll search the registry for that
specific piece of information. If I find it, I'll let you know where
it can be found in there.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:16:29 -0700, you wrote:

Hi,
I'd be willing to bet that the full 20-character authorization key is somewhere in the Registry, and that there's got to be some way to find it if you're (a) knowledgeable about navigating it and (b) willing to do some digging. That information should be stored in some sort of registry variable and, if so, using regedit's search capability should let you find it. Can any of you out there confirm this?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 24, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to obtain
such basic information.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant

I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.

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Re: Blatant Rant

Steve Matzura
 

Exactly the purpose of my rant.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:20:32 -0400, you wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to obtain
such basic information.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant

I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.

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Re: Blatant Rant

Steve Matzura
 

Exactly my plan. I was discussing this with another local JAWS user,
and we both agreed we haven't seen that number on any packaging since
versiion 7.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:32:30 -0700, you wrote:

Since you didn't record that number in a file somewhere, you will need to
wait until tomorrow, when you can call FS and ask them.

Annoying, but resolved with keeping a list of all your relevant
authorization, CD key, serial numbers, etc. in a text file somewhere.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 05:38
Subject: Blatant Rant


I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.

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Re: Blatant Rant

Rose Combs <rosecombs@...>
 

I have never gotten a new number since Jaws 6 and my SMAS are up-to-date.


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Blatant Rant

As far as I get it, you will only get a new number once you either
upgrade, or once you get a new SMA. So if you have a active SMA wich
run for 2 years, then after 1 year, you will not get a new number
because the SMA is stil running. So the 20 digit number only change
when you upgrrade or renew SMA.

On 24/03/2013, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS
provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I
agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to obtain
such basic information.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant

I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.

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Re: Blatant Rant

Rose Combs <rosecombs@...>
 

The almost unreadable authorization number is on the Jaws 6 CD and should
also be stored on the computer. I know, I have had to have my husband read
mine a couple of times because the braille label is almost all smashed out
and if I do it alone I get something incorrect. Only time I have needed it
was for a new computer.


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 5:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant

I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using the
Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization number
which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in both print
and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or not,
could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions that came
in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back when
I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using, which was new
for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on Windows NT and above, the
box it came in definitely did have an authorization number on a stick-on
braille label. Of course, 4.0 is long, long ago, and so is the packaging in
which it came. Since then, I'm sure when updates come out, they are
delivered directly from the company that stamps out and packages the
distribution CD's, so they can't possibly be personalized with your very own
authorization number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this
thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow morning when
FS technical support opens for business.

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Dictation program and JAWS?

Karoline Bourdeau <karoline.bourdeau@...>
 

I am using windows 7 and Jaws 14. I'd like to start using the dictation
program included in Windows 7. It turns JAWS off when I turn the dictation
one on. Is there a way to use both together?



Karoline Bourdeau

www.thankingplace.wordpress.com



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Re: JFW friendly Internet relay chat

Frank Ventura
 

Thanks, is there a link to it somewhere?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:16 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JFW friendly Internet relay chat

Last I knew, mIRC with Speech is still the only one worth even trying.
It's easy to set up, but because it has many good features, it's a little complex to use. But if you're a dedicated IRC'er, you'll get the hang of it.

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:37:33 -0600, you wrote:

Hi all can anyone recommend an accessible IRC (Internet relay chat) client that works with JFW and how to btain scripts if necessary?
Thanks


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Re: Blatant Rant

Angel
 

Freedom Scientific will give your authorization number to you if you call. I suspect the same can be gotten by e-mail. I know when I had to reformat my computer I asked for mine; and they were most accommodating.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
Subject: Blatant Rant


I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.

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