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Re: inserting non-standard characters

Dave...
 

Hello again Cristóbal,

I was able to have it switch between US and Swedish, but when I try to add
other keyboard layouts, it still only selects US/Swedish. Something's wrong
with what I'm doing. Can you reply off-list to give me any pointers on how
to have more than two choices?

dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 9:20 AM
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters


Glad it helped. Like I said though, if you're just wanting to insert maybe
one or two foreign characters,, I at least find using the options outlined
below quicker instead of rotating back and forth between keyboard layouts.
Matter of preference ultimately though I suppose.

Anyway, good to hear you found a solution to your inquiry.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar"
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters

Cristobal,

Cool! I just added the Swedish keyboard and now when I press LeftAlt +
Shift, I can switch. Sö good!

Thanks very much!

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
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Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:04 PM
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters


Dave,



So I went hunting for a document I saved back pertaining to different
accented letters for foreign languages. I'll go ahead and paste it below for
your review. Hopefully it will have what you're looking for. I’m sending
this email in html format so the links should work. Otherwise, the webpage
url where I got this information from is at the bottom of the message if you
wish to go there directly for more resources.



Regarding the left alt+ shift, you have to enable other keyboard layouts
first by going into the clock, language and region section of the control
pannel. I’ve got US English as my default with Latin American Spanish and
German for example and am able to cycle through these options with the left
alt+shift if I’m working exclusively in another language, but use the other
mmethods if I’m writing something short or in a more informal correspondance
with friends or family, etc. and don’t feel like switching back and forth
between keyboards when all I need is one character accented or with an
umlaut and so on. My name in Spanish has an accented o and ñ for example. It’s
just easier for me to use the ctl+insert+apostrophy or alt+numbers to get
these characters instead of switching entire keyboards.



Anyway, hope this helps




Windows - Microsoft Word Codes


These codes apply to Microsoft Word on Windows only. If you are using
another software package, use use must use one of the
<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/index.html#win>
other methods of inputting accents. This page list codes for accented
letters and other characters. The list is organized by type. These tables
show select codes only, not all possible codes.

NOTE: Word also has the Insert Symbol tool, available on the Insert menu.
See <http://language.la.psu.edu/tell/workshops/accents_in_word/index.html>
instructions for Insert Symbol posted by the <http://language.la.psu.edu/>
Center for Language Acquisition.


This Page


1.
<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#accent#accent>
Letters with Accents - (e.g. ó, ò, ñ)
2.
<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#foreign#foreign>
Other Foreign Characters - (e.g. ç, ¿, ß)
3.
<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#link#link>
Links to External References


Letters with Accents


This list is organized by Accent type. The sample shows a letter with that
accent, and the Notes present any special comments about using that accent.

For the Template, the symbol "V" means any vowel.


Word for Windows Accent Codes


ACCENT

SAMPLE

TEMPLATE

NOTES


Acute

ó Ó

Control+', V

' = apostrophe key


Circumflex

ô Ô

Shift+Control+^, V




Grave

ò Ò

Control+`, V




Tilde

ñ Ñ

Shift+Control+~, V

Only works with "n,N,o,O,a,A"


Umlaut

ö Ö

Shift+Control+:, V

:= colon key

Example 1: To type the letter ó, hold down the Control key, then press the
apostrophe key. Release both keys and type o. The accented letter should
appear.

Example 2: To type the letter Ó, hold down the Control key, then press the
apostrophe key. Release both keys and type O. The accented letter should
appear.

Example 3: To type ñ, hold down the Shift key, then the Control key, then
the ~ key. Release all three keys, then type n.

<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#top#top>Topof PageOther Foreign CharactersThis list is current for Word 2000. Someforeign characters may not havecodes in earlier versions of Word.Word forWindows Foreign Character CodesSYMBOLNAMECODENOTES¡Upside-down exclamationpointAlt+Shift+Control+!Either Alt key works.¿Upside-down questionmarkAlt+Shift+Control+?Either Alt key works.Ç,çFrench C cedille(caps/lowecase)Control+,,cControl+,,CFor ç, press Control, then the commakey. Release then press c.Œ,œOE ligature(caps/lowecase)Shift+Control+&,oShift+Control+&,OßGerman Sharp/DoubleSShift+Control+&,SØ,øNordic O slash(caps/lowecase)Control+/,oControl+/,OÅ,åNordic A-ring, Angstrom sign(caps/lowecase)Shift+Control+@,aShift+Control+@,AA with ring/AngstromSignÆ,æOld English AE ligature(caps/lowecase)Shift+Control+&,aShift+Control+&,AÐ,ðOld English eth(caps/lowecase)Control+',dControl+',DIcelandic/Old English eth' = apostrophekeyExample 1: To input Spanish upside down exclamation point¡(Alt+Shift+Control+!), hold down the Alt key, then the Shift key, thetheControl key, then the ! key. Release all four keys, and the ¡punctuationwill appear.Example 2: To input French oe ligature œ(Shift+Control+&,o), hold down theShift key, then the Control key, then the& key. Release all three keys andthen type o to make the letter appear.<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#top#top> Top of PageLinks to External ReferencesThese are links to alternateinstructions for inputting accents and othercharacters with theInternational Keyboard.*<http://language.la.psu.edu/tell/workshops/accents_in_word/index.html>PennState Center for Language Acquisition*<http://www.libraries.psu.edu/artshumanities/romance/Accents.html> PennStateUniversity Libraries<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#top#top> Top of Page©Penn State University, 2000-2011.This Web page maintainedby <http://tlt.its.psu.edu/> Teaching and Learningwith Technology, a unitof <http://its.psu.edu> Information TechnologyServices. For questions orcomments on this Web page, please contactElizabeth J. Pyatt (<mailto:ejp10@psu.edu> ejp10@psu.edu).Unicode character names andhexadecimal entity codes are taken from the<http://www.unicode.org/ucd/>public Unicode Character Charts.Last Modified: Wednesday, 01-Jun-201113:09:12EDThttp://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.htmlregional language-----Original Message-----From: Jfw[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave"Farfar"CarlsonSent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:42 AMTo: The Jaws forWindows support list.Subject: Re: inserting non-standardcharactersCristobal,Hmmm. I tried the Ctrl+Insert+apostrophe and a followingletter a and onlygot a standard letter a -- no acutes applied. Is thisintended to work inany editing field, or only with something likeMS-Word?Also LeftAlt+Shift does absolutely nothing to toggle differentkeyboards.Does that require something else to be set up or enabled?DaveCarlsonSan Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, andmusician<mailto:dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net-----Original Message -----From: "Cristóbal" < <mailto:crismunoz54@gmail.com>crismunoz54@gmail.com>To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <<mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>Sent: Thursday, October17, 2013 11:19 AMSubject: RE: inserting non-standard charactersUsing Spanishfor the accented á, é, í, etc. I press the control+insert(caps locks workstoo) and apostrophy then the letter I wish to haveaccented.I do translationwork and use the above method as well as the alt+numberspreviouslymentioned.I would have to imagine that it is a similar scenario for otherlanguages inconjuntion with the enabling of regional languages and keyboardsand whatnotif you don't want to use the left alt+shift toggle for switchingbetweendifferent keyboard layouts.-----Original Message-----From: Jfw [<mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com>mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]On Behalf Of Dave CarlsonSent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:57 AMTo: TheJaws for Windows support list.Subject: Re: inserting non-standardcharactersTony,Yes, but that's frankly a real pain in the kiester. TheSwedish specialcharacters are used in many words, and pausing to type a4-digit code eachtime is not a good solution.Dave CarlsonSan Francisco BayArea Farfar, woodworker, and musician <mailto:dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net----- Original Message -----From: "Tony" <<mailto:Tony@K5TWZ.Com> Tony@K5TWZ.Com>To: "'The Jaws for Windows supportlist.'" < <mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>Sent:Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:57 AMSubject: RE: inserting non-standardcharactersYou can enter any character by holding down an ALT key andentering the 4digit numeric code on the keypad, not the top row.If you havea document with the character you can find the code by quicklypressing thenumber 5 on the keypad 3 times with jaws. There should be asimilar methodwith windoweyes. Otherwise, look for a list of codes ontheweb,.Tony-----Original Message-----From: Jfw [<mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com>mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar"CarlsonSent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:08AMTo: The Jaws for Windows support list.Subject: Re: inserting non-standardcharactersSoronel,Some time back I saw a message instructing how to editthis list. There are6 characters for the Swedish alphabet that I'd like toinsert. Any ideas?Dave CarlsonSan Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, andmusician <mailto:dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net-----Original Message -----From: "Soronel Haetir" <<mailto:soronel.haetir@gmail.com>soronel.haetir@gmail.com>To: "The Jaws forWindows support list." <<mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>Sent: Thursday, October17, 2013 8:21 AMSubject: Re: inserting non-standard charactersIf you hitjaws+4 it will bring up a list of some symbols.In MS Word at least (probablyall MS office applications), as well asWordPad you can get accented lettersby typing ctrl+accent-key,regular-key,So for instance to type ñ in thoseprograms you can type (on a typicalUS keyboard layout): ctrl+shift+` then'n'Or to get é you type ctrl+' then e.That behavior is specific to those MSprograms however, it does notwork in notepad for instance, or in Firefoxwhere I am typing thismessage (I used the jaws+4 dialog to produce thecouple accentedcharacters here).For characters you can't find this way thereis always the charactermap application, type "character map" into the searchbar (if runningwindows vista or newer), or find it underStart->AllPrograms->Accessories->System tools.On older versions of windows"All Programs" may simply be "Programs", iforget.On 10/17/13, TerriLynnePomeroy < <mailto:shateamo@gmail.com>shateamo@gmail.com> wrote:> Can anyonetell me how to insert non-standard characters such as the> degrees> symbol,the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other languages. I have seen>references to using the f5 key to do this, but when I hit f5, that is not>its purpose.>>>> Is there something special that needs to be done withJAWS?>>>> Thanks much,>>>> TerriLynne>> -------------- nextpart --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...>URL:><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20131017/a20e7baf/attachment.html>>_______________________________________________> Jfw mailing list><mailto:Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com><http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com>--Soronel Haetir<mailto:soronel.haetir@gmail.com>soronel.haetir@gmail.com_______________________________________________Jfwmailing list <mailto:Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com<http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com_______________________________________________Jfw mailing list <mailto:Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com<http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com_______________________________________________Jfw mailing list <mailto:Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com<http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com_______________________________________________Jfw mailing list <mailto:Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com<http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com_______________________________________________Jfw mailing list <mailto:Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com<http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com_______________________________________________Jfw mailing list <mailto:Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com<http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com-------------- nextpart --------------An HTML attachment wasscrubbed...URL:<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20131017/172d5014/attachment.html>_______________________________________________Jfw mailinglistJfw@lists.the-jdh.comhttp://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com_______________________________________________Jfw mailing listJfw@lists.the-jdh.comhttp://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com_______________________________________________Jfw mailing listJfw@lists.the-jdh.comhttp://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


Re: Ibm as/400RE: jaws and the IBM as400 protocall

Charles E. Black <charleseblack@...>
 

I use reflections as well. I have noticed that there is a 10 to 12 cell
blank on the left side. Is there a way to get rid of that gap?

Charles E. Black
President: Kershaw County Area Chapter
National Federation of The Blind of South Carolina
19 Coach Hill Rd.
Camden, SC 29020
Phone: (803) 572-5386
Cell: (803) 463-0040
Promoting Opportunity, Equality And Security For All Blind Persons

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:29 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Ibm as/400RE: jaws and the IBM as400 protocall

What is reflections, never heard of it?
That's great to know that you are using it successfully

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gery Gaubert
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:27 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Ibm as/400RE: jaws and the IBM as400 protocall

I am using an ibm as/400 here at work. We use reflections and it does ok
with jaws. Works even better with braille display. There a few settings
you have to change for braille to work with it.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 2:05 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: jaws and the IBM as400 protocall


Hey guys,

Alright, for you seasoned computer pros, I thought I would throw this out
there, hoping someone has an idea. Here's my situation. I am more than
likely going to take a position with an organization in public safety
dispatching who uses a very old cad system. By old I mean, it's using the
ibm as400 protocall for those who are familiar. They use ibm client services
to access it. Yes, it's command line, ouch! Anyway, I need some help, what
would be the best way to access this and navigate it? They're running
windows machines of course, but my question is how well would it interact
with jaws for windows. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed


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Re: jaws and the IBM as400 protocol

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

We're still using a mainframe app here that was probably written in Unix, and that works just fine under Windows. I've used it with 95, XP, and 7. In fact, it's the most reliable thing around here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:29 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: jaws and the IBM as400 protocol

Just wondering if it'll work, I'm curious to see.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:25 PM
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Subject: RE: jaws and the IBM as400 protocol

Wow, talk about legacy! Is it a mainframe simulation? That was the environment that inspired DisplayWrite; in fact, that was the program's native file format.
Later, I tried running DW5 in a DOS box with JAWS. It didn't work well but I always attributed that to DOS compatibility problems in XP.

Ted

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To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: jaws and the IBM as400 protocall

Hey guys,

Alright, for you seasoned computer pros, I thought I would throw this out there, hoping someone has an idea.
Here's my situation. I am more than likely going to take a position with an organization in public safety dispatching who uses a very old cad system.
By old I mean, it's using the ibm as400 protocall for those who are familiar.
They use ibm client services to access it. Yes, it's command line, ouch!
Anyway, I need some help, what would be the best way to access this and navigate it? They're running windows machines of course, but my question is how well would it interact with jaws for windows.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Jed


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Re: as/400 and jaws

Jed Barton <jed@...>
 

Hey Gery,

Awesome, email me off list, and we can talk more.

Cheers,
Jed

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Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:31 PM
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Subject: as/400 and jaws

If you need help with it, let me know.

Gery D. Gaubert
Assistant, Information Technology Administrator St. Charles Parish Sheriff's
Office office (985) 783-0208 mobile 504-329-9439
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Re: Ibm as/400RE: jaws and the IBM as400 protocall

Gery Gaubert <GGaubert@...>
 

Reflections is a terminal emulation program. It allows windows pc's to be used in the ibm as/400 environment.

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Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 2:29 PM
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Subject: RE: Ibm as/400RE: jaws and the IBM as400 protocall


What is reflections, never heard of it?
That's great to know that you are using it successfully

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Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:27 PM
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Subject: Ibm as/400RE: jaws and the IBM as400 protocall

I am using an ibm as/400 here at work. We use reflections and it does ok with jaws. Works even better with braille display. There a few settings you have to change for braille to work with it.

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Subject: jaws and the IBM as400 protocall


Hey guys,

Alright, for you seasoned computer pros, I thought I would throw this out there, hoping someone has an idea. Here's my situation. I am more than likely going to take a position with an organization in public safety dispatching who uses a very old cad system. By old I mean, it's using the ibm as400 protocall for those who are familiar. They use ibm client services to access it. Yes, it's command line, ouch! Anyway, I need some help, what would be the best way to access this and navigate it? They're running windows machines of course, but my question is how well would it interact with jaws for windows. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed


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as/400 and jaws

Gery Gaubert <GGaubert@...>
 

If you need help with it, let me know.

Gery D. Gaubert
Assistant, Information Technology Administrator
St. Charles Parish Sheriff's Office
office (985) 783-0208
mobile 504-329-9439
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Re: Ibm as/400RE: jaws and the IBM as400 protocall

Jed Barton <jed@...>
 

What is reflections, never heard of it?
That's great to know that you are using it successfully

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Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:27 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Ibm as/400RE: jaws and the IBM as400 protocall

I am using an ibm as/400 here at work. We use reflections and it does ok
with jaws. Works even better with braille display. There a few settings
you have to change for braille to work with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 2:05 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: jaws and the IBM as400 protocall


Hey guys,

Alright, for you seasoned computer pros, I thought I would throw this out
there, hoping someone has an idea. Here's my situation. I am more than
likely going to take a position with an organization in public safety
dispatching who uses a very old cad system. By old I mean, it's using the
ibm as400 protocall for those who are familiar. They use ibm client services
to access it. Yes, it's command line, ouch! Anyway, I need some help, what
would be the best way to access this and navigate it? They're running
windows machines of course, but my question is how well would it interact
with jaws for windows. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed


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Re: jaws and the IBM as400 protocol

Jed Barton <jed@...>
 

Just wondering if it'll work, I'm curious to see.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: jaws and the IBM as400 protocol

Wow, talk about legacy! Is it a mainframe simulation? That was the
environment that inspired DisplayWrite; in fact, that was the program's
native file format.
Later, I tried running DW5 in a DOS box with JAWS. It didn't work well but
I always attributed that to DOS compatibility problems in XP.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:05 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: jaws and the IBM as400 protocall

Hey guys,

Alright, for you seasoned computer pros, I thought I would throw this out
there, hoping someone has an idea.
Here's my situation. I am more than likely going to take a position with an
organization in public safety dispatching who uses a very old cad system.
By old I mean, it's using the ibm as400 protocall for those who are
familiar.
They use ibm client services to access it. Yes, it's command line, ouch!
Anyway, I need some help, what would be the best way to access this and
navigate it? They're running windows machines of course, but my question is
how well would it interact with jaws for windows.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Jed


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Ibm as/400RE: jaws and the IBM as400 protocall

Gery Gaubert <GGaubert@...>
 

I am using an ibm as/400 here at work. We use reflections and it does ok with jaws. Works even better with braille display. There a few settings you have to change for braille to work with it.

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Hey guys,

Alright, for you seasoned computer pros, I thought I would throw this out there, hoping someone has an idea. Here's my situation. I am more than likely going to take a position with an organization in public safety dispatching who uses a very old cad system. By old I mean, it's using the ibm as400 protocall for those who are familiar. They use ibm client services to access it. Yes, it's command line, ouch! Anyway, I need some help, what would be the best way to access this and navigate it? They're running windows machines of course, but my question is how well would it interact with jaws for windows. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed


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Re: jaws and the IBM as400 protocol

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Wow, talk about legacy! Is it a mainframe simulation? That was the environment that inspired DisplayWrite; in fact, that was the program's native file format.
Later, I tried running DW5 in a DOS box with JAWS. It didn't work well but I always attributed that to DOS compatibility problems in XP.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:05 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: jaws and the IBM as400 protocall

Hey guys,

Alright, for you seasoned computer pros, I thought I would throw this out there, hoping someone has an idea.
Here's my situation. I am more than likely going to take a position with an organization in public safety dispatching who uses a very old cad system.
By old I mean, it's using the ibm as400 protocall for those who are familiar.
They use ibm client services to access it. Yes, it's command line, ouch!
Anyway, I need some help, what would be the best way to access this and navigate it? They're running windows machines of course, but my question is how well would it interact with jaws for windows.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Jed


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jaws and the IBM as400 protocall

Jed Barton <jed@...>
 

Hey guys,

Alright, for you seasoned computer pros, I thought I would throw this out
there, hoping someone has an idea.
Here's my situation. I am more than likely going to take a position with an
organization in public safety dispatching who uses a very old cad system.
By old I mean, it's using the ibm as400 protocall for those who are
familiar.
They use ibm client services to access it. Yes, it's command line, ouch!
Anyway, I need some help, what would be the best way to access this and
navigate it? They're running windows machines of course, but my question is
how well would it interact with jaws for windows.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Jed


IDE for Java

Adam Slotkowski <aslotkowski@...>
 

Hello,

Has anyone had experience with an IDE (integrated development
environment) using JAWS? Freedom Scientific technical support
suggested that I contact the JAWS user group for assistance.

I am using JAWS 14 on a Windows 7 platform. I plan on using the JGrasp
or Eclipse IDE to write Java code. I am encountering a few navigation
issues with bothe the JGrasp and Eclipse application Window. I would
appreciate hearing from someone with experience with either IDE.

Thank you - Adam Slotkowski


Re: inserting non-standard characters

Cristóbal
 

Glad it helped. Like I said though, if you're just wanting to insert maybe one or two foreign characters,, I at least find using the options outlined below quicker instead of rotating back and forth between keyboard layouts. Matter of preference ultimately though I suppose.

Anyway, good to hear you found a solution to your inquiry.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar" Carlson
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:01 PM
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Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters

Cristobal,

Cool! I just added the Swedish keyboard and now when I press LeftAlt + Shift, I can switch. Sö good!

Thanks very much!

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

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Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:04 PM
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters


Dave,



So I went hunting for a document I saved back pertaining to different
accented letters for foreign languages. I'll go ahead and paste it below for
your review. Hopefully it will have what you're looking for. I’m sending
this email in html format so the links should work. Otherwise, the webpage
url where I got this information from is at the bottom of the message if you
wish to go there directly for more resources.



Regarding the left alt+ shift, you have to enable other keyboard layouts
first by going into the clock, language and region section of the control
pannel. I’ve got US English as my default with Latin American Spanish and
German for example and am able to cycle through these options with the left
alt+shift if I’m working exclusively in another language, but use the other
mmethods if I’m writing something short or in a more informal correspondance
with friends or family, etc. and don’t feel like switching back and forth
between keyboards when all I need is one character accented or with an
umlaut and so on. My name in Spanish has an accented o and ñ for example. It’s
just easier for me to use the ctl+insert+apostrophy or alt+numbers to get
these characters instead of switching entire keyboards.



Anyway, hope this helps




Windows - Microsoft Word Codes


These codes apply to Microsoft Word on Windows only. If you are using
another software package, use use must use one of the
<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/index.html#win>
other methods of inputting accents. This page list codes for accented
letters and other characters. The list is organized by type. These tables
show select codes only, not all possible codes.

NOTE: Word also has the Insert Symbol tool, available on the Insert menu.
See <http://language.la.psu.edu/tell/workshops/accents_in_word/index.html>
instructions for Insert Symbol posted by the <http://language.la.psu.edu/>
Center for Language Acquisition.


This Page


1.
<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#accent#accent>
Letters with Accents - (e.g. ó, ò, ñ)
2.
<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#foreign#foreign>
Other Foreign Characters - (e.g. ç, ¿, ß)
3.
<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#link#link>
Links to External References


Letters with Accents


This list is organized by Accent type. The sample shows a letter with that
accent, and the Notes present any special comments about using that accent.

For the Template, the symbol "V" means any vowel.


Word for Windows Accent Codes


ACCENT

SAMPLE

TEMPLATE

NOTES


Acute

ó Ó

Control+', V

' = apostrophe key


Circumflex

ô Ô

Shift+Control+^, V




Grave

ò Ò

Control+`, V




Tilde

ñ Ñ

Shift+Control+~, V

Only works with "n,N,o,O,a,A"


Umlaut

ö Ö

Shift+Control+:, V

:= colon key

Example 1: To type the letter ó, hold down the Control key, then press the
apostrophe key. Release both keys and type o. The accented letter should
appear.

Example 2: To type the letter Ó, hold down the Control key, then press the
apostrophe key. Release both keys and type O. The accented letter should
appear.

Example 3: To type ñ, hold down the Shift key, then the Control key, then
the ~ key. Release all three keys, then type n.

<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#top#top>Top of PageOther Foreign CharactersThis list is current for Word 2000. Some foreign characters may not havecodes in earlier versions of Word.Word for Windows Foreign Character CodesSYMBOLNAMECODENOTES¡Upside-down exclamation pointAlt+Shift+Control+!Either Alt key works.¿Upside-down question markAlt+Shift+Control+?Either Alt key works.Ç,çFrench C cedille (caps/lowecase)Control+,,cControl+,,CFor ç, press Control, then the comma key. Release then press c.Œ,œOE ligature (caps/lowecase)Shift+Control+&,oShift+Control+&,OßGerman Sharp/Double SShift+Control+&,SØ,øNordic O slash (caps/lowecase)Control+/,oControl+/,OÅ,åNordic A-ring, Angstrom sign (caps/lowecase)Shift+Control+@,aShift+Control+@,AA with ring/Angstrom SignÆ,æOld English AE ligature (caps/lowecase)Shift+Control+&,aShift+Control+&,AÐ,ðOld English eth (caps/lowecase)Control+',dControl+',DIcelandic/Old English eth' = apostrophe keyExample 1: To input Spanish upside down exclamation point ¡(Alt+Shift+Control+!), hold down the Alt key, then the Shift key, the theControl key, then the ! key. Release all four keys, and the ¡ punctuationwill appear.Example 2: To input French oe ligature œ (Shift+Control+&,o), hold down theShift key, then the Control key, then the & key. Release all three keys andthen type o to make the letter appear. <http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#top#top> Top of PageLinks to External ReferencesThese are links to alternate instructions for inputting accents and othercharacters with the International Keyboard.* <http://language.la.psu.edu/tell/workshops/accents_in_word/index.html>Penn State Center for Language Acquisition* <http://www.libraries.psu.edu/artshumanities/romance/Accents.html> PennState University Libraries <http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#top#top> Top of Page©Penn State University, 2000-2011.This Web page maintained by <http://tlt.its.psu.edu/> Teaching and Learningwith Technology, a unit of <http://its.psu.edu> Information TechnologyServices. For questions or comments on this Web page, please contactElizabeth J. Pyatt ( <mailto:ejp10@psu.edu> ejp10@psu.edu).Unicode character names and hexadecimal entity codes are taken from the<http://www.unicode.org/ucd/> public Unicode Character Charts.Last Modified: Wednesday, 01-Jun-2011 13:09:12 EDThttp://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.htmlregional language-----Original Message-----From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar"CarlsonSent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:42 AMTo: The Jaws for Windows support list.Subject: Re: inserting non-standard charactersCristobal,Hmmm. I tried the Ctrl+Insert+apostrophe and a following letter a and onlygot a standard letter a -- no acutes applied. Is this intended to work inany editing field, or only with something like MS-Word?Also LeftAlt+Shift does absolutely nothing to toggle different keyboards.Does that require something else to be set up or enabled?Dave CarlsonSan Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician<mailto:dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net----- Original Message -----From: "Cristóbal" < <mailto:crismunoz54@gmail.com> crismunoz54@gmail.com>To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" < <mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:19 AMSubject: RE: inserting non-standard charactersUsing Spanish for the accented á, é, í, etc. I press the control+insert(caps locks works too) and apostrophy then the letter I wish to haveaccented.I do translation work and use the above method as well as the alt+numberspreviously mentioned.I would have to imagine that it is a similar scenario for other languages inconjuntion with the enabling of regional languages and keyboards and whatnotif you don't want to use the left alt+shift toggle for switching betweendifferent keyboard layouts.-----Original Message-----From: Jfw [ <mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com>mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave CarlsonSent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:57 AMTo: The Jaws for Windows support list.Subject: Re: inserting non-standard charactersTony,Yes, but that's frankly a real pain in the kiester. The Swedish specialcharacters are used in many words, and pausing to type a 4-digit code eachtime is not a good solution.Dave CarlsonSan Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician <mailto:dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net----- Original Message -----From: "Tony" < <mailto:Tony@K5TWZ.Com> Tony@K5TWZ.Com>To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" < <mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:57 AMSubject: RE: inserting non-standard charactersYou can enter any character by holding down an ALT key and entering the 4digit numeric code on the keypad, not the top row.If you have a document with the character you can find the code by quicklypressing the number 5 on the keypad 3 times with jaws. There should be asimilar method with windoweyes. Otherwise, look for a list of codes on theweb,.Tony-----Original Message-----From: Jfw [ <mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com>mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar"CarlsonSent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:08 AMTo: The Jaws for Windows support list.Subject: Re: inserting non-standard charactersSoronel,Some time back I saw a message instructing how to edit this list. There are6 characters for the Swedish alphabet that I'd like to insert. Any ideas?Dave CarlsonSan Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician <mailto:dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net----- Original Message -----From: "Soronel Haetir" < <mailto:soronel.haetir@gmail.com>soronel.haetir@gmail.com>To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." < <mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:21 AMSubject: Re: inserting non-standard charactersIf you hit jaws+4 it will bring up a list of some symbols.In MS Word at least (probably all MS office applications), as well asWordPad you can get accented letters by typing ctrl+accent-key,regular-key,So for instance to type ñ in those programs you can type (on a typicalUS keyboard layout): ctrl+shift+` then 'n'Or to get é you type ctrl+' then e.That behavior is specific to those MS programs however, it does notwork in notepad for instance, or in Firefox where I am typing thismessage (I used the jaws+4 dialog to produce the couple accentedcharacters here).For characters you can't find this way there is always the charactermap application, type "character map" into the search bar (if runningwindows vista or newer), or find it under Start->AllPrograms->Accessories->System tools.On older versions of windows "All Programs" may simply be "Programs", iforget.On 10/17/13, TerriLynne Pomeroy < <mailto:shateamo@gmail.com>shateamo@gmail.com> wrote:> Can anyone tell me how to insert non-standard characters such as the> degrees> symbol, the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other languages. 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Re: inserting non-standard characters

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

That's a very cool command I have never noticed in all the years with JAWS.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Massey
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters

It's also alt 248. But I need the degree symbol with the slash through it.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:46 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters

Degrees is alt167.
Don't forget, the insert+4 Jaws command will bring up a list of these
oddball ansi characters too.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nicole
Massey
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:33 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters

Anyone got an ASCII code for the degree symbol or O with a diagonal
line through it? I know about the zero with the line, Alt 0248, but
I'd like the smaller one, as it's used in music for the
half-diminished chord symbol. I seem to remember it's a Dutch letter
character, but Jaws doesn't speak the name in anything I can
recognize, and it'd be much easier to use than trying to do something
else to designate that type of musical chord.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters

I've been using it so long, I guess along the way, I for whatever
reason inserted the insert button into my key combination with the
control+apostrophy. Anyway... it still works. Good thing I looked up
control+that
old webpage I had saved.
Pretty much all the other foreign language letters were included so
hopefully it'll be a solution for folks.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:15 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters

No, that behavior (needing to run the editor elevated) is dependent
on
the version of windows involved not the version of jaws.

You might also be able to get away with moving all the vkeyboard.*
files to your jaws user directory from the shared directory
(\<UserDir>\<UserProfile>\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\Settings\<language>\vkeyboard.* instead of
\<userDir>\All Users\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\Settings\<llanguage>\vkeyboard.*), if you
did that then there would be no need for an elevated editor session
but jaws might have some other problem with it that I am not
thinking
of.



On 10/17/13, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Soronel,

Thanks for the tips.

You wrote: "One other thing, in order to edit that file, you will
need
to start the editor session elevated if running on vista or later."

How about if I ran a lower version of JAWS to allow editing the
file
for my

current version?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

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From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


Yes, edit the file \<UsersDir>\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\<language>\VKeyboard.jsm

On windows vista and 7 (don't know for certain about 8 but would
expect it

to follow the same pattern), <UsersDir> is \Users, while on XP it
is
\Documents and Settings
You will need to edit the value for "symbol", but I am not sure
what
is up with the 4 description variables, you'll need to look
through
vkeyboard.jss to figure that out.

One other thing, in order to edit that file, you will need to
start the editor session elevated if running on vista or later.

On 10/17/13, Dave "Farfar" Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Soronel,

Some time back I saw a message instructing how to edit this list.
There are

6 characters for the Swedish alphabet that I'd like to insert.
Any
ideas?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

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From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


If you hit jaws+4 it will bring up a list of some symbols.

In MS Word at least (probably all MS office applications), as
well
as
WordPad you can get accented letters by typing ctrl+accent-key,
regular-key,

So for instance to type ñ in those programs you can type (on a
typical US keyboard layout): ctrl+shift+` then 'n'

Or to get é you type ctrl+' then e.

That behavior is specific to those MS programs however, it does
not
work in notepad for instance, or in Firefox where I am typing
this message (I used the jaws+4 dialog to produce the couple
accented characters here).

For characters you can't find this way there is always the
character map application, type "character map" into the search
bar
(if
running
windows vista or newer), or find it under Start->All
Programs->Accessories->System tools.

On older versions of windows "All Programs" may simply be
"Programs",
i forget.

On 10/17/13, TerriLynne Pomeroy <shateamo@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to insert non-standard characters such as
the
degrees symbol, the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other
languages. I have seen references to using the f5 key to do
this, but when I hit f5, that is not its purpose.



Is there something special that needs to be done with JAWS?



Thanks much,



TerriLynne

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Re: inserting non-standard characters

Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
 

It's a small o with a slash going through it, from about 2 o'clock to 7
o'clock. The slash extends past the circle of the O.

-----Original Message-----
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"Farfar" Carlson
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:24 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters

Nicole,

Can't be specific here, but you're looking for a Norwegian lower-case
letter "o". Or perhaps Danish. Definitely not Finnish or Swedish.


Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@gypsyheir.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters


It's also alt 248. But I need the degree symbol with the slash through
it.

-----Original Message-----
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Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:46 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters

Degrees is alt167.
Don't forget, the insert+4 Jaws command will bring up a list of these
oddball ansi characters too.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nicole
Massey
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:33 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters

Anyone got an ASCII code for the degree symbol or O with a diagonal
line through it? I know about the zero with the line, Alt 0248, but
I'd like the smaller one, as it's used in music for the half-
diminished
chord symbol. I seem to remember it's a Dutch letter character, but
Jaws doesn't speak the name in anything I can recognize, and it'd be
much easier to use than trying to do something else to designate that
type of musical chord.

-----Original Message-----
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Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters

I've been using it so long, I guess along the way, I for whatever
reason inserted the insert button into my key combination with the
control+apostrophy. Anyway... it still works. Good thing I looked
up
control+that
old webpage I had saved.
Pretty much all the other foreign language letters were included so
hopefully it'll be a solution for folks.
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Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:15 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters

No, that behavior (needing to run the editor elevated) is dependent
on
the version of windows involved not the version of jaws.

You might also be able to get away with moving all the vkeyboard.*
files to your jaws user directory from the shared directory
(\<UserDir>\<UserProfile>\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\Settings\<language>\vkeyboard.* instead
of
\<userDir>\All Users\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\Settings\<llanguage>\vkeyboard.*), if you
did that then there would be no need for an elevated editor session
but jaws might have some other problem with it that I am not
thinking
of.



On 10/17/13, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Soronel,

Thanks for the tips.

You wrote: "One other thing, in order to edit that file, you will
need
to start the editor session elevated if running on vista or
later."

How about if I ran a lower version of JAWS to allow editing the
file
for my

current version?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


Yes, edit the file \<UsersDir>\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\<language>\VKeyboard.jsm

On windows vista and 7 (don't know for certain about 8 but would
expect it

to follow the same pattern), <UsersDir> is \Users, while on XP it
is
\Documents and Settings
You will need to edit the value for "symbol", but I am not sure
what
is up with the 4 description variables, you'll need to look
through
vkeyboard.jss to figure that out.

One other thing, in order to edit that file, you will need to
start
the editor session elevated if running on vista or later.

On 10/17/13, Dave "Farfar" Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Soronel,

Some time back I saw a message instructing how to edit this
list.
There are

6 characters for the Swedish alphabet that I'd like to insert.
Any
ideas?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


If you hit jaws+4 it will bring up a list of some symbols.

In MS Word at least (probably all MS office applications), as
well
as
WordPad you can get accented letters by typing ctrl+accent-key,
regular-key,

So for instance to type ñ in those programs you can type (on a
typical US keyboard layout): ctrl+shift+` then 'n'

Or to get é you type ctrl+' then e.

That behavior is specific to those MS programs however, it does
not
work in notepad for instance, or in Firefox where I am typing
this
message (I used the jaws+4 dialog to produce the couple accented
characters here).

For characters you can't find this way there is always the
character map application, type "character map" into the search
bar
(if
running
windows vista or newer), or find it under Start->All
Programs->Accessories->System tools.

On older versions of windows "All Programs" may simply be
"Programs",
i forget.

On 10/17/13, TerriLynne Pomeroy <shateamo@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to insert non-standard characters such
as
the
degrees symbol, the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other
languages. I have seen references to using the f5 key to do
this,
but when I hit f5, that is not its purpose.



Is there something special that needs to be done with JAWS?



Thanks much,



TerriLynne

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Re: inserting non-standard characters

Dave...
 

Cristobal,

Cool! I just added the Swedish keyboard and now when I press LeftAlt +
Shift, I can switch. Sö good!

Thanks very much!

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

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From: "Cristóbal" <crismunoz54@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:04 PM
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters


Dave,



So I went hunting for a document I saved back pertaining to different
accented letters for foreign languages. I'll go ahead and paste it below for
your review. Hopefully it will have what you're looking for. I’m sending
this email in html format so the links should work. Otherwise, the webpage
url where I got this information from is at the bottom of the message if you
wish to go there directly for more resources.



Regarding the left alt+ shift, you have to enable other keyboard layouts
first by going into the clock, language and region section of the control
pannel. I’ve got US English as my default with Latin American Spanish and
German for example and am able to cycle through these options with the left
alt+shift if I’m working exclusively in another language, but use the other
mmethods if I’m writing something short or in a more informal correspondance
with friends or family, etc. and don’t feel like switching back and forth
between keyboards when all I need is one character accented or with an
umlaut and so on. My name in Spanish has an accented o and ñ for example. It’s
just easier for me to use the ctl+insert+apostrophy or alt+numbers to get
these characters instead of switching entire keyboards.



Anyway, hope this helps




Windows - Microsoft Word Codes


These codes apply to Microsoft Word on Windows only. If you are using
another software package, use use must use one of the
<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/index.html#win>
other methods of inputting accents. This page list codes for accented
letters and other characters. The list is organized by type. These tables
show select codes only, not all possible codes.

NOTE: Word also has the Insert Symbol tool, available on the Insert menu.
See <http://language.la.psu.edu/tell/workshops/accents_in_word/index.html>
instructions for Insert Symbol posted by the <http://language.la.psu.edu/>
Center for Language Acquisition.


This Page


1.
<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#accent#accent>
Letters with Accents - (e.g. ó, ò, ñ)
2.
<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#foreign#foreign>
Other Foreign Characters - (e.g. ç, ¿, ß)
3.
<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#link#link>
Links to External References


Letters with Accents


This list is organized by Accent type. The sample shows a letter with that
accent, and the Notes present any special comments about using that accent.

For the Template, the symbol "V" means any vowel.


Word for Windows Accent Codes


ACCENT

SAMPLE

TEMPLATE

NOTES


Acute

ó Ó

Control+', V

' = apostrophe key


Circumflex

ô Ô

Shift+Control+^, V




Grave

ò Ò

Control+`, V




Tilde

ñ Ñ

Shift+Control+~, V

Only works with "n,N,o,O,a,A"


Umlaut

ö Ö

Shift+Control+:, V

:= colon key

Example 1: To type the letter ó, hold down the Control key, then press the
apostrophe key. Release both keys and type o. The accented letter should
appear.

Example 2: To type the letter Ó, hold down the Control key, then press the
apostrophe key. Release both keys and type O. The accented letter should
appear.

Example 3: To type ñ, hold down the Shift key, then the Control key, then
the ~ key. Release all three keys, then type n.

<http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#top#top>Top of PageOther Foreign CharactersThis list is current for Word 2000. Some foreign characters may not havecodes in earlier versions of Word.Word for Windows Foreign Character CodesSYMBOLNAMECODENOTES¡Upside-down exclamation pointAlt+Shift+Control+!Either Alt key works.¿Upside-down question markAlt+Shift+Control+?Either Alt key works.Ç,çFrench C cedille (caps/lowecase)Control+,,cControl+,,CFor ç, press Control, then the comma key. Release then press c.Œ,œOE ligature (caps/lowecase)Shift+Control+&,oShift+Control+&,OßGerman Sharp/Double SShift+Control+&,SØ,øNordic O slash (caps/lowecase)Control+/,oControl+/,OÅ,åNordic A-ring, Angstrom sign (caps/lowecase)Shift+Control+@,aShift+Control+@,AA with ring/Angstrom SignÆ,æOld English AE ligature (caps/lowecase)Shift+Control+&,aShift+Control+&,AÐ,ðOld English eth (caps/lowecase)Control+',dControl+',DIcelandic/Old English eth' = apostrophe keyExample 1: To input Spanish upside down exclamation point ¡(Alt+Shift+Control+!), hold down the Alt key, then the Shift key, the theControl key, then the ! key. Release all four keys, and the ¡ punctuationwill appear.Example 2: To input French oe ligature œ (Shift+Control+&,o), hold down theShift key, then the Control key, then the & key. Release all three keys andthen type o to make the letter appear. <http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#top#top> Top of PageLinks to External ReferencesThese are links to alternate instructions for inputting accents and othercharacters with the International Keyboard.* <http://language.la.psu.edu/tell/workshops/accents_in_word/index.html>Penn State Center for Language Acquisition* <http://www.libraries.psu.edu/artshumanities/romance/Accents.html> PennState University Libraries <http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.html#top#top> Top of Page©Penn State University, 2000-2011.This Web page maintained by <http://tlt.its.psu.edu/> Teaching and Learningwith Technology, a unit of <http://its.psu.edu> Information TechnologyServices. For questions or comments on this Web page, please contactElizabeth J. Pyatt ( <mailto:ejp10@psu.edu> ejp10@psu.edu).Unicode character names and hexadecimal entity codes are taken from the<http://www.unicode.org/ucd/> public Unicode Character Charts.Last Modified: Wednesday, 01-Jun-2011 13:09:12 EDThttp://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codeword.htmlregional language-----Original Message-----From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar"CarlsonSent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:42 AMTo: The Jaws for Windows support list.Subject: Re: inserting non-standard charactersCristobal,Hmmm. I tried the Ctrl+Insert+apostrophe and a following letter a and onlygot a standard letter a -- no acutes applied. Is this intended to work inany editing field, or only with something like MS-Word?Also LeftAlt+Shift does absolutely nothing to toggle different keyboards.Does that require something else to be set up or enabled?Dave CarlsonSan Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician<mailto:dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net----- Original Message -----From: "Cristóbal" < <mailto:crismunoz54@gmail.com> crismunoz54@gmail.com>To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" < <mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:19 AMSubject: RE: inserting non-standard charactersUsing Spanish for the accented á, é, í, etc. I press the control+insert(caps locks works too) and apostrophy then the letter I wish to haveaccented.I do translation work and use the above method as well as the alt+numberspreviously mentioned.I would have to imagine that it is a similar scenario for other languages inconjuntion with the enabling of regional languages and keyboards and whatnotif you don't want to use the left alt+shift toggle for switching betweendifferent keyboard layouts.-----Original Message-----From: Jfw [ <mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com>mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave CarlsonSent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:57 AMTo: The Jaws for Windows support list.Subject: Re: inserting non-standard charactersTony,Yes, but that's frankly a real pain in the kiester. The Swedish specialcharacters are used in many words, and pausing to type a 4-digit code eachtime is not a good solution.Dave CarlsonSan Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician <mailto:dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net----- Original Message -----From: "Tony" < <mailto:Tony@K5TWZ.Com> Tony@K5TWZ.Com>To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" < <mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:57 AMSubject: RE: inserting non-standard charactersYou can enter any character by holding down an ALT key and entering the 4digit numeric code on the keypad, not the top row.If you have a document with the character you can find the code by quicklypressing the number 5 on the keypad 3 times with jaws. There should be asimilar method with windoweyes. Otherwise, look for a list of codes on theweb,.Tony-----Original Message-----From: Jfw [ <mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com>mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar"CarlsonSent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:08 AMTo: The Jaws for Windows support list.Subject: Re: inserting non-standard charactersSoronel,Some time back I saw a message instructing how to edit this list. There are6 characters for the Swedish alphabet that I'd like to insert. Any ideas?Dave CarlsonSan Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician <mailto:dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net----- Original Message -----From: "Soronel Haetir" < <mailto:soronel.haetir@gmail.com>soronel.haetir@gmail.com>To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." < <mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:21 AMSubject: Re: inserting non-standard charactersIf you hit jaws+4 it will bring up a list of some symbols.In MS Word at least (probably all MS office applications), as well asWordPad you can get accented letters by typing ctrl+accent-key,regular-key,So for instance to type ñ in those programs you can type (on a typicalUS keyboard layout): ctrl+shift+` then 'n'Or to get é you type ctrl+' then e.That behavior is specific to those MS programs however, it does notwork in notepad for instance, or in Firefox where I am typing thismessage (I used the jaws+4 dialog to produce the couple accentedcharacters here).For characters you can't find this way there is always the charactermap application, type "character map" into the search bar (if runningwindows vista or newer), or find it under Start->AllPrograms->Accessories->System tools.On older versions of windows "All Programs" may simply be "Programs", iforget.On 10/17/13, TerriLynne Pomeroy < <mailto:shateamo@gmail.com>shateamo@gmail.com> wrote:> Can anyone tell me how to insert non-standard characters such as the> degrees> symbol, the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other languages. 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Re: inserting non-standard characters

Dave...
 

Nicole,

Can't be specific here, but you're looking for a Norwegian lower-case letter
"o". Or perhaps Danish. Definitely not Finnish or Swedish.


Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters


It's also alt 248. But I need the degree symbol with the slash through it.

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Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:46 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters

Degrees is alt167.
Don't forget, the insert+4 Jaws command will bring up a list of these
oddball ansi characters too.

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Massey
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:33 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters

Anyone got an ASCII code for the degree symbol or O with a diagonal
line through it? I know about the zero with the line, Alt 0248, but
I'd like the smaller one, as it's used in music for the half-diminished
chord symbol. I seem to remember it's a Dutch letter character, but
Jaws doesn't speak the name in anything I can recognize, and it'd be
much easier to use than trying to do something else to designate that
type of musical chord.

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Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters

I've been using it so long, I guess along the way, I for whatever
reason inserted the insert button into my key combination with the
control+apostrophy. Anyway... it still works. Good thing I looked up
control+that
old webpage I had saved.
Pretty much all the other foreign language letters were included so
hopefully it'll be a solution for folks.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:15 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters

No, that behavior (needing to run the editor elevated) is dependent
on
the version of windows involved not the version of jaws.

You might also be able to get away with moving all the vkeyboard.*
files to your jaws user directory from the shared directory
(\<UserDir>\<UserProfile>\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\Settings\<language>\vkeyboard.* instead of
\<userDir>\All Users\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\Settings\<llanguage>\vkeyboard.*), if you
did that then there would be no need for an elevated editor session
but jaws might have some other problem with it that I am not thinking
of.



On 10/17/13, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Soronel,

Thanks for the tips.

You wrote: "One other thing, in order to edit that file, you will
need
to start the editor session elevated if running on vista or later."

How about if I ran a lower version of JAWS to allow editing the
file
for my

current version?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

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From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


Yes, edit the file \<UsersDir>\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\<language>\VKeyboard.jsm

On windows vista and 7 (don't know for certain about 8 but would
expect it

to follow the same pattern), <UsersDir> is \Users, while on XP it
is
\Documents and Settings
You will need to edit the value for "symbol", but I am not sure
what
is up with the 4 description variables, you'll need to look
through
vkeyboard.jss to figure that out.

One other thing, in order to edit that file, you will need to start
the editor session elevated if running on vista or later.

On 10/17/13, Dave "Farfar" Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Soronel,

Some time back I saw a message instructing how to edit this list.
There are

6 characters for the Swedish alphabet that I'd like to insert. Any
ideas?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

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From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


If you hit jaws+4 it will bring up a list of some symbols.

In MS Word at least (probably all MS office applications), as well
as
WordPad you can get accented letters by typing ctrl+accent-key,
regular-key,

So for instance to type ñ in those programs you can type (on a
typical US keyboard layout): ctrl+shift+` then 'n'

Or to get é you type ctrl+' then e.

That behavior is specific to those MS programs however, it does
not
work in notepad for instance, or in Firefox where I am typing this
message (I used the jaws+4 dialog to produce the couple accented
characters here).

For characters you can't find this way there is always the
character map application, type "character map" into the search
bar
(if
running
windows vista or newer), or find it under Start->All
Programs->Accessories->System tools.

On older versions of windows "All Programs" may simply be
"Programs",
i forget.

On 10/17/13, TerriLynne Pomeroy <shateamo@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to insert non-standard characters such as
the
degrees symbol, the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other
languages. I have seen references to using the f5 key to do this,
but when I hit f5, that is not its purpose.



Is there something special that needs to be done with JAWS?



Thanks much,



TerriLynne

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Re: windows 8.1 and what is windows live writer

Michael Boyd <mikeboyd61@...>
 

Hello,

There was a Windows 8 update available to day, but not 8.1. That is supposed to be released tomorrow. And, Windows Live Writer is a blog writing software that allows you to write your own blogs and post them to the internet.

Mike
There was a windows

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From: "Aidan" <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:42 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: windows 8.1 and what is windows live writer

Hi, I think it will be out tomorrow. But I'm not sure if you can get
it under windows update or if you have to go to the not very
accessible windows store. I don't have a store acount, so I hope there
is a better way of getting it. Jaws 14 should work with it, maybe even
perform much better. Although if you plan to go to jaws 15, its rather
better to get the update beforehand and then jaws 15 later. Hope
someone can supply more accurate info.

On 17/10/2013, Lauren <lotusrising@verizon.net> wrote:
Hi:



I heard windows 8.1 is out today; if you have Windows 8, is that free or do
you have to buy it? Does anyone know if Jaws 14 works with it?



Also, what is windows live writer?







Sincerely,



Lauren



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Inserting pictures in a Word document

Lisa Larges
 

Hi

If folks have experience inserting pictures in to a Word document -
including things like positioning, sizing and adding captions - I'd love
some tips.

Please post things that you have found useful workArounds, etc.

Apreeciate it

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Re: inserting non-standard characters

Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
 

It's also alt 248. But I need the degree symbol with the slash through it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:46 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters

Degrees is alt167.
Don't forget, the insert+4 Jaws command will bring up a list of these
oddball ansi characters too.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nicole
Massey
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:33 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters

Anyone got an ASCII code for the degree symbol or O with a diagonal
line through it? I know about the zero with the line, Alt 0248, but
I'd like the smaller one, as it's used in music for the half-diminished
chord symbol. I seem to remember it's a Dutch letter character, but
Jaws doesn't speak the name in anything I can recognize, and it'd be
much easier to use than trying to do something else to designate that
type of musical chord.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters

I've been using it so long, I guess along the way, I for whatever
reason inserted the insert button into my key combination with the
control+apostrophy. Anyway... it still works. Good thing I looked up
control+that
old webpage I had saved.
Pretty much all the other foreign language letters were included so
hopefully it'll be a solution for folks.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:15 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters

No, that behavior (needing to run the editor elevated) is dependent
on
the version of windows involved not the version of jaws.

You might also be able to get away with moving all the vkeyboard.*
files to your jaws user directory from the shared directory
(\<UserDir>\<UserProfile>\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\Settings\<language>\vkeyboard.* instead of
\<userDir>\All Users\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\Settings\<llanguage>\vkeyboard.*), if you
did that then there would be no need for an elevated editor session
but jaws might have some other problem with it that I am not thinking
of.



On 10/17/13, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Soronel,

Thanks for the tips.

You wrote: "One other thing, in order to edit that file, you will
need
to start the editor session elevated if running on vista or later."

How about if I ran a lower version of JAWS to allow editing the
file
for my

current version?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


Yes, edit the file \<UsersDir>\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\<language>\VKeyboard.jsm

On windows vista and 7 (don't know for certain about 8 but would
expect it

to follow the same pattern), <UsersDir> is \Users, while on XP it
is
\Documents and Settings
You will need to edit the value for "symbol", but I am not sure
what
is up with the 4 description variables, you'll need to look
through
vkeyboard.jss to figure that out.

One other thing, in order to edit that file, you will need to start
the editor session elevated if running on vista or later.

On 10/17/13, Dave "Farfar" Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Soronel,

Some time back I saw a message instructing how to edit this list.
There are

6 characters for the Swedish alphabet that I'd like to insert. Any
ideas?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


If you hit jaws+4 it will bring up a list of some symbols.

In MS Word at least (probably all MS office applications), as well
as
WordPad you can get accented letters by typing ctrl+accent-key,
regular-key,

So for instance to type ñ in those programs you can type (on a
typical US keyboard layout): ctrl+shift+` then 'n'

Or to get é you type ctrl+' then e.

That behavior is specific to those MS programs however, it does
not
work in notepad for instance, or in Firefox where I am typing this
message (I used the jaws+4 dialog to produce the couple accented
characters here).

For characters you can't find this way there is always the
character map application, type "character map" into the search
bar
(if
running
windows vista or newer), or find it under Start->All
Programs->Accessories->System tools.

On older versions of windows "All Programs" may simply be
"Programs",
i forget.

On 10/17/13, TerriLynne Pomeroy <shateamo@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to insert non-standard characters such as
the
degrees symbol, the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other
languages. I have seen references to using the f5 key to do this,
but when I hit f5, that is not its purpose.



Is there something special that needs to be done with JAWS?



Thanks much,



TerriLynne

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