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Re: Question regarding the latest update to Quick Assist
Dave Durber
Bill:
I called the Microsoft Disability Assistance line,
and I got an amence stroke of luck, an got the same person who helped me
on Monday. I asked him, if he would be so
kind, as to write down the steps to set up Remote Desktop for both the computer
in my house and my laptop.
While composing this email, I checked to see if I
got any new emails. One of the new messages, was from the Microsoft
representative, listing the step-by-step instructions, for setting
up Remote Desktop on a remote device, whether it be a laptop, smart
phone or, tablet.
Now I am going to see if I can get it all to
work.
Dave
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Re: Quick Assist Update
Dave Durber
Bill:
Thank you for your help.
I used the link you provided and went to the site.
I then pressed
ENTER on the Quick Assist Link
I then got the prompt to enter the code provided by
the person at the other end. How the code is provided to the individual who
needs help, is a mystery.
It appears, this option is designed to get
assistance from Microsoft. I did not see an option on the site, which allows,
for example, you to connect with one of my systems, to help solve a problem with
that system.
In Quick Assist, there is an option which allows an
individual, to get help from another person/organization, other than Microsoft.
Do you know How the code is generated to the person/organization to give to
the individual who needs the assistance?
Dave
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Re: Need Instructions For Turning off Auto-numbering and Auto-lettering in Microsoft Word Documents And Outlook e-mails
Bill White
Hi again, Tom. I found some more updated instructions for turning off AutoNumbering and AutoBulleting in Word:
Turn Off Autonumbering and Bulleting In Word
1. Open Word. 2. Press ALT plus F, Followed by T for Options. 3. Arrow down to Proofing. 4. Press ALT plus A for Autocorrect Options. 5. Press CONTROL plus TAB until you hear “Autoformat as you type tab” 6. TAB approximately seven times, until you hear “Apply as you type, Automatic bulleted lists check box” 7. If this check box is checked, press SPACE to uncheck it. This will turn off automatic bulleted lists. 8. TAB once, until you hear “Apply as you type, Automatic Numbered Lists check box” 9. If this check box is checked, press SPACE to uncheck it. This will turn off Automatic Numbered Lists. 10. TAB to OK, and press SPACE or ENTER.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 7:50 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Need Instructions For Turning off Auto-numbering and Auto-lettering in Microsoft Word Documents And Outlook e-mails
Hello, everyone.
Within the last day or so, I have noticed that auto-numbering and auto-lettering has gotten turned back on in Microsoft Word documents and Outlook e-mails.
I suspect this happened in an Office 365 update of some kind.
Why Microsoft has to mess with these sorts of settings in their updates is beyond me.
I prefer to do numbering and lettering manually, since that gives me more control in what I’m doing.
Anyway, if someone has an easy-to-follow set of instructions for disabling auto-numbering and lettering in MS Word documents and Outlook e-mails, I’d appreciate your sending them along.
I don’t know what else might have changed, but I’ll take things one step at a time.
I’m using Office 365 on a Windows 10 PC here.
Thank you!
Dr. Tom Behler From Michigan
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Re: Need Instructions For Turning off Auto-numbering and Auto-lettering in Microsoft Word Documents And Outlook e-mails
Bill White
Hi, Tom. Some of these procedures may have changed slightly in newer versions of Word and in Outlook, but you should be able to find and navigate the options from the instructions below.
How To Turn Off Automatic List Numbering And Bulleting in Word
1. Start Word. 2. Press Alt + T to enter the Tools Menu. 3. Press Shift + Tab four times to reach AutoCorrect Options, then press Enter. 4. Press Ctrl + Tab to reach the Replace As You Type List Box. 5. Arrow up and down, checking or unchecking the desired items.
Turn Off Auto Bullet Or Numbering In Outlook
You can turn off auto bullet or numbering in Outlook as follows.
1. Open the Outlook Options dialog box, ALT plus F, followed by T. 2. Arrow down to Mail. 3. Tab over to, and press ENTER on the Editor Options button. 4. In the Editor Options dialog box, make sure Proofing is highlighted by arrowing to it. 5. Tab to, and press ENTER on the AutoCorrect Options button. 6. Press CONTROL plus TAB, until it says, AutoFormat As You Type. 7. uncheck AutoNumbering, and AutoBulleting. 8. Tab to, and press ENTER on the OK button. 9. Tab to, and press ENTER on the next OK button.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 7:50 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Need Instructions For Turning off Auto-numbering and Auto-lettering in Microsoft Word Documents And Outlook e-mails
Hello, everyone.
Within the last day or so, I have noticed that auto-numbering and auto-lettering has gotten turned back on in Microsoft Word documents and Outlook e-mails.
I suspect this happened in an Office 365 update of some kind.
Why Microsoft has to mess with these sorts of settings in their updates is beyond me.
I prefer to do numbering and lettering manually, since that gives me more control in what I’m doing.
Anyway, if someone has an easy-to-follow set of instructions for disabling auto-numbering and lettering in MS Word documents and Outlook e-mails, I’d appreciate your sending them along.
I don’t know what else might have changed, but I’ll take things one step at a time.
I’m using Office 365 on a Windows 10 PC here.
Thank you!
Dr. Tom Behler From Michigan
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Need Instructions For Turning off Auto-numbering and Auto-lettering in Microsoft Word Documents And Outlook e-mails
Tom Behler
Hello, everyone.
Within the last day or so, I have noticed that auto-numbering and auto-lettering has gotten turned back on in Microsoft Word documents and Outlook e-mails.
I suspect this happened in an Office 365 update of some kind.
Why Microsoft has to mess with these sorts of settings in their updates is beyond me.
I prefer to do numbering and lettering manually, since that gives me more control in what I’m doing.
Anyway, if someone has an easy-to-follow set of instructions for disabling auto-numbering and lettering in MS Word documents and Outlook e-mails, I’d appreciate your sending them along.
I don’t know what else might have changed, but I’ll take things one step at a time.
I’m using Office 365 on a Windows 10 PC here.
Thank you!
Dr. Tom Behler From Michigan
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Quick Assist Update
Bill White
There is a new, temporary solution to the Quick Assist inaccessibility dilemma. It is a web-based app, and is accessible. You may use Quick Assist at the following URL:
https://remoteassistance.support.services.microsoft.com/roleselection
Bill White
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QuintenC Playroom
mona
OK, I deleted everything but the brain was lagging. It took Microsoft lady techy to remind me to go to the download or run to install the Playroom. I had saved an exe file which I guess from what I read it nolonger going to be used. There is a beta version and eventually that beta version will become reality. Yay, I am back up and running.
Mona
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Re: reading pdfs
Bill White
Hi, Justin. That's because all pdf's aren't created equal. Some are photos, imported into a pdf. Others are in columns, and sometimes don't read well with a screen reader, because the screen reader is optimized for reading rows across the screen, not columns vertically down the screen. Some pdf's are text, but the spacing in the pdf is odd, so when you try to extract the optical text, words are run together. Some pdf's are so large that it is necessary to read only the visible pages. Because of all the variability between pdf documents, no method is going to get it right 100% of the time.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 3:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: reading pdfs
It just seems as if reading pdfs are hits and misses.
I've downloaded severaol, but can't read them all.
What methods can we use for this?
It seems as fi the methods change time and time again?
Even when I try the brosers, the books don's all work Justin
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reading pdfs
Justin Williams
It just seems as if reading pdfs are hits and misses.
I've downloaded severaol, but can't read them all.
What methods can we use for this?
It seems as fi the methods change time and time again?
Even when I try the brosers, the books don's all work Justin
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Re: Question regarding the latest update to Quick Assist
Bill White
Hi, Dave. Until they actually get the update into public circulation, all Microsoft will be able to do is walk you through the process of setting up the remote between your PC and your laptop. Right now, they don't have any way of taking control of either computer to do the process for you. I really hope this Windows Assist problem gets sorted quickly.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 1:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Question regarding the latest update to Quick Assist
Hello Bill:
Thank you for the clarrification. I need to contact the Disability Advice team later, to help me set up remote, Desktop between my main PC at home and my laptop, for when I need to travel.
I have just tried to use Quick Assist, with the same result I reported to the list this mormning.
I have just got home from a very nice meal with a friend at a local pub. I need to have a couple cups of coffee, before I call Microsoft at about 11:00 PM, UK time, before I go to bed. I will let you know how I get on later.
Dave
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Re: Question regarding the latest update to Quick Assist
Dave Durber
Hello Bill:
Thank you for the clarrification. I need to contact
the Disability Advice team later, to help me set up remote, Desktop between my
main PC at home and my laptop, for when I need to travel.
I have just tried to use Quick Assist, with the
same result I reported to the list this mormning.
I have just got home from a very nice meal with a
friend at a local pub. I need to have a couple cups of coffee, before I call
Microsoft at about 11:00 PM, UK time, before I go to bed. I will let you know
how I get on later.
Dave
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Re: Question regarding the latest update to Quick Assist
Bill White
Hi, Dave. I just spoke with the Microsoft Disability Desk at 10:00 AM, Pacific Daylight Time. They told me that currently, the Quick Assist app is crashing for everyone. They told me that an update should be released by tomorrow that should fix both the crashing problem, and also the inaccessibility issue. I published a review on the Microsoft Store which delineates the issue, and states that Microsoft did not verrify that this app is accessible for screen readers before releasing it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 1:24 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Question regarding the latest update to Quick Assist
Hello Everyone:
An update on my initial posting!
All my systems are presently running the older version of Quick Assist.
Up to yesterday evening, when I opened Quick Assist on each of my computers, included in the update screen, there was a "Not Yet" button.
I have run Quick Assist on all the systems this morning, the "Not Yet" button, has disappeared.
It looks like Microsoft, are forcing users to update Quick Assist, regardless as to whether they wish to do so or not, even though Microsoft, kno the updated version of Quisk Assist is floored.
This now means, users cannot use the previous version of Quick Assist, if they need someone have access to there computer
Regardless as to whether screen readers users use the previous version of Quick Assist or the new version, as individuals who are visually impaired, in my opinion, we are being right royally screwed by the arrogance of Microsoft.
Dave
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Re: simpleton question?
Computer Hope: What is the Taskbar?
Indiana University Information Technology Services: ARCHIVED: In Windows, what is the Taskbar? [MiniTool Wiki]: Glossary of Terms - What Is Windows Taskbar? A web search turns up these, and many more references, with the query: What is the Windows taskbar? -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. |
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simpleton question?
David Pearson
Hello list:
What, exactly, is the taskbar? Seems like Jaws is announcing it more often lately (alt + 4) for example so just curious. Thank you, David S. Pearson |
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Playroom
mona
I hope this is the right group. If not, sorry.
My story begins with me getting stuck in a loope that would not let me out of a game nregardless what I tried. I went to the control panel and deleted the program. Then I went to the c: and deleted it from there. Tried reinstalling it and had two of the same program. It said two of twenty and twenty of twenty so I deleted one of them in the C: and program file. Reinstalled it and now I get a fatal error. What did I do wrong? Thanks in advance.
Oh BTW on the confused message that I sent earlier, thanks to those of you that helped me.
Mona
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Question regarding the latest update to Quick Assist
Dave Durber
Hello Everyone:
An update on my initial posting!
All my systems are presently running the older
version of Quick Assist.
Up to yesterday evening, when I opened Quick Assist
on each of my computers, included in the update screen, there was a "Not Yet"
button.
I have run Quick Assist on all the systems this
morning, the "Not Yet" button, has disappeared.
It looks like Microsoft, are forcing users to
update Quick Assist, regardless as to whether they wish to do so or not, even
though Microsoft, kno the updated version of Quisk Assist is
floored.
This now means, users cannot use the previous
version of Quick Assist, if they need someone have access to there
computer
Regardless as to whether screen readers users use
the previous version of Quick Assist or the new version, as individuals who are
visually impaired, in my opinion, we are being right royally screwed by
the arrogance of Microsoft.
Dave
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Now: List Rules - 06/01/2022
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**List Policies** 1: Keep it clean. We're a family list, and there are people here who probably don't want to hear everything *exactly* that's running through your head. If you wouldn't see it on TV, it doesn't belong in a post to the list. If you're not sure, email the administration before you post it to the list. Otherwise, you stand to see your posts moderated. 2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes. 3: Listen to, and respect, the wishes of the admins/moderators. If you're asked by an admin or moderator to drop a subject, or take something to private emails (in the instance of two people carrying on a thread list-wide), please do so. If the subject is changed on a thread by an admin or moderator, it will be explained why in the email sent out with it. Please don't continue replying to the old subject. 4: Don't ask over the list for a position on the list administration. If you'd like to help out, it's of course welcome, but address the request to do so to the admin team, otherwise it'll be ignored. Requests are always welcome, whether help is being looked for or not. When help is needed, a post will be made to the list. The requests already received will be kept in mind. 5: Keep flaming to a minimum. This is not limited to flaming of each other, but goes beyond that, to flaming of products, opinions, ideas, suggestions, etc. Constructive criticism never hurts. Flame wars, especially public ones, both drive people from this list and are unwelcome here. either take the problem to private emails, or report the problem to list administration. 6. Respect the opinions and views of others. This is *very* important in any environment, most especially an online environment where the only gage one has on a person is what that person puts to writing. If you come off as hostile in your posting, whether you intended to or not, people will take it as such. Online, "face value" means just that. People make mistakes, people don't always have access to the same information you do. For that matter, people don't always have the same experience you do. If you know how someone can solve their problem, great. Suggest it to them and/or the list. Do *not* proceed to tell someone, on or off list, that they have no business posting. Repeat offenders of this particular rule will be banned for a week to 30 days, depending on the severity. Serious problems will be banned permanently. As always, if there are problems or questions with regards these policies, don't hesitate to send them off-list to jfw+owner@groups.io James, |
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Re: Cannot use "my Desktop"
Ann Byrne
While on the desktop, press ctrl-space to make sure nothing is selected.
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Then open the applications menu and go to the view submenu. It says 'large icons, small icons" and some other things. Keep arrowing till it says "show desktop icons". This is a checkbox and should be checked. Good luck! -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 5:53 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Cannot use "my Desktop" What version of Windows are you running? Windows 10 or 11? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 5:49 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Cannot use "my Desktop" When I press the combo win+m, Jaws says "Desktop" as you would expect. However, none of the items show up; and if I press the associated letter or number of a given shortcut, nothing happens. When I go to c:\users all of the shortcuts show up in the desktop folders; and when I hit enter on any item, the intended action occurs. So, I'm guessing is that I somehow messed up a setting eliminating the functionality of the desktop. Anyone with an idea as to how to restore desktop. Thanks in advance. |
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Re: Cannot use "my Desktop"
Loy
Sounds like you have the option to show desktop icons unchecked in the view
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menu of the desktop. Do the windows M then do control spacebar it should say none selected. Then use the context key and arrow up or down to view hit enter and check the option to show desktop. -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 6:58 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Cannot use "my Desktop" Win 10. And the issue appears not only with JFW2022 plus 2021 and 2020 along with Narrator and even an old version of the venerable Window-Eyes. On Tue, 31 May 2022, Milton Ota wrote: What version of Windows are you running? Windows 10 or 11?or number of a given shortcut, nothing happens.on any item, the intended action occurs. |
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Re: Cannot use "my Desktop"
Mike Pietruk
Thanks to everyone for the quick replies.
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Bill, your number 1 was my problem. A simple toggle straightened everything out. Thanks to all and particularly to Bill for hitting upon the culprit isssue. Figured it had to be something simple; and it was. On Tue, 31 May 2022, Bill White wrote:
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