Hi,
As Kestrell and others have pointed out, you can run into various
problems with PDF's. For best results generally, use Adobe Acrobat
Reader rather than one of the browser PDF readers. And you can read
about the vvarious issues encountered and how to deal with them in Chapter 10 of my book.
Regards,
David

Hi,
As Kestrell and others have pointed out, you can run into various
problems with PDF's. For best results generally, use Adobe Acrobat
Reader rather than one of the browser PDF readers. And you can read
about the vvarious issues encountered and how to deal with them in Chapter 10 of my book.
Regards,
David

Hi,
As Kestrell and others have pointed out, you can run into various
problems with PDF's. For best results generally, use Adobe Acrobat
Reader rather than one of the browser PDF readers. And you can read
about the vvarious issues encountered and how to deal with them in Chapter 10 of my book.
Regards,
David

On Jun 3, 2022, at 06:15, Mark <mweiler@...> wrote:

Is there a way to make JAWS stop announcing "bullet" in lists in HTML or Word documents? Imagine a very long list with short list items. Each time it would say "bullet".   I have been searching but am stuck. In Quick Settings for Word, I found the bullet type indication setting, but that turns off JAWS saying the type of bullet, like "hollow round", but it still says bullet. I imagine some people just get used to it, but certainly it seems reasonable to give a user the option in a setting, or perhaps change it to a less intrusive sound like a soft chime.

Hi,
As Kestrell and others have pointed out, you can run into various
problems with PDF's. For best results generally, use Adobe Acrobat
Reader rather than one of the browser PDF readers. And you can read
about the vvarious issues encountered and how to deal with them in Chapter 10 of my book.
Regards,
David

Hi,
As Kestrell and others have pointed out, you can run into various
problems with PDF's. For best results generally, use Adobe Acrobat
Reader rather than one of the browser PDF readers. And you can read
about the vvarious issues encountered and how to deal with them in Chapter 10 of my book.
Regards,
David

Hi,
As Kestrell and others have pointed out, you can run into various
problems with PDF's. For best results generally, use Adobe Acrobat
Reader rather than one of the browser PDF readers. And you can read
about the vvarious issues encountered and how to deal with them in Chapter 10 of my book.
Regards,
David

If you have already gone through the Acrobat accessibility settings  setup, there is one more setting you should fix to ensure PDF documents are accessible with a screen reader, and that is turning off protected view. David Kingsbury covers this in his book _The Windows Screen Reader Primer_, which can be downloaded here

https://carroll.org/the-windows-screen-reader-primer/

I will add that there are a couple of other PDF accessibility issues with screen readers which David also discusses in his book, one of which is a reading order issue. If you have an issue where it sounds as if words are being smooshed together with no spaces between them, post again and I will explain about how to potentially fix that issue, also.

Here is the section heading and the instructions:

10.1.1

There is one more change to make. Disabling Protected view is absolutely crucial. Until you do this, you simply will not be able to read PDF’s with your screen reader. Steps are:

1.            Press Alt to open the menu, Right arrow once to the Edit menu, Up arrow to Preferences, and press Enter.

2.            This opens a categories list. Press S until you get to Security enhanced.

3.            Tab once to the Enable Protected view at startup checkbox and press the Spacebar to uncheck it.

4.            Tab to the OK button and press Enter.

5.            Pres Alt F4 to close Acrobat Reader and then reopen it. The application must be closed for this change to take effect.

Kestrell 

It just seems as if reading pdfs are hits and misses.

I've downloaded severaol, but can't read them all.

What methods can we use for this?

It seems as fi the methods change time and time again?

Even when I try the brosers, the books don's all work

Justin

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2022 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading pdfs

Hi,
As Kestrell and others have pointed out, you can run into various problems with PDF's. For best results generally, use Adobe Acrobat Reader rather than one of the browser PDF readers. And you can read about the vvarious issues encountered and how to deal with them in Chapter 10 of my book.
Regards,
David

I just spoke with Microsoft, and for now, there is another temporary
solution to not being able to use the Quick Assist app with a screen
reader.
They told me that, with Narrator, it is usable with the following
instructions:

1. Quit whichever screen reader you have running, unless your screen reader
is Narrator.
2. Start Narrator with CONTROL plus WIN Key plus ENTER, unless Narrator is
already running.
3. Open Quick Assist with CONTROL plus Win Key plus Q
4. While holding down the Narrator Command Key (usually CAPSLOCK), press
the
Space Bar to start Scan Mode.
5. Press the letter E to navigate to the edit box where you would enter
your
code.
6. Press the Space Bar to enter forms mode.
7. Enter the code, and proceed as usual.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

I just spoke with Microsoft, and for now, there is another temporary
solution to not being able to use the Quick Assist app with a screen
reader.
They told me that, with Narrator, it is usable with the following
instructions:

1. Quit whichever screen reader you have running, unless your screen reader
is Narrator.
2. Start Narrator with CONTROL plus WIN Key plus ENTER, unless Narrator is
already running.
3. Open Quick Assist with CONTROL plus Win Key plus Q
4. While holding down the Narrator Command Key (usually CAPSLOCK), press
the
Space Bar to start Scan Mode.
5. Press the letter E to navigate to the edit box where you would enter
your
code.
6. Press the Space Bar to enter forms mode.
7. Enter the code, and proceed as usual.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

Hi, Justin. I get the same error as you, when I go to this site with Google Chrome. When I use Microsoft Edge, however, I get a different error. Here is a copy of the error I received with Microsoft Edge.

Error 1001

 Ray ID: 715349b1dd437c5c • 2022-06-02 21:30:01 UTC

DNS resolution error

What happened?

You've requested a page on a website (www.ziontemple.org) that is on the Cloudflare network. Cloudflare is currently unable to resolve your requested domain (www.ziontemple.org). There are two potential causes of this:

• Most likely: if the owner just signed up for Cloudflare it can take a few minutes for the website's information to be distributed to our global network.
• Less likely: something is wrong with this site's configuration. Usually this happens when accounts have been signed up with a partner organization (e.g., a hosting provider) and the provider's DNS fails.

I believe that this situation is more likely to be the second situation, and the DNS failed. You will have to wait until the server is reconfigured, or the DNS comes back online to find the domain.

This site can’t provide a secure connection

www.ziontemple.org uses an unsupported protocol.

ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH

Is the error I'm getting. How do I solve this?

Thanks,

Justin

This site can’t provide a secure connection

www.ziontemple.org uses an unsupported protocol.

ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH

Is the error I'm getting. How do I solve this?

Thanks,

Justin

From: Bill White

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 10:18 PM

Subject: Re: Question regarding the latest update to Quick Assist

 

Hi, Dave. Until they actually get the update into public circulation, all Microsoft will be able to do is walk you through the process of setting up the remote between your PC and your laptop. Right now, they don't have any way of taking control of either computer to do the process for you. I really hope this Windows Assist problem gets sorted quickly.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding the latest update to Quick Assist

 

Hello Bill:

 

Thank you for the clarrification. I need to contact the Disability Advice team later, to help me set up remote, Desktop between my main PC at home and my laptop, for when I need to travel.

 

I have just tried to use Quick Assist, with the same result I reported to the list this mormning.

 

I have just got home from a very nice meal with a friend at a local pub. I need to have a couple cups of coffee, before I call Microsoft at about 11:00 PM, UK time, before I go to bed. I will let you know how I get on later.

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 6:07 PM

Subject: Re: Question regarding the latest update to Quick Assist

 

Hi, Dave. I just spoke with the Microsoft Disability Desk at 10:00 AM, Pacific Daylight Time. They told me that currently, the Quick Assist app is crashing for everyone. They told me that an update should be released by tomorrow that should fix both the crashing problem, and also the inaccessibility issue. I published a review on the Microsoft Store which delineates the issue, and states that Microsoft did not verrify that this app is accessible for screen readers before releasing it.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 1:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question regarding the latest update to Quick Assist

 

Hello Everyone:

 

An update on my initial posting!

 

All my systems are presently running the older version of Quick Assist.

 

Up to yesterday evening, when I opened Quick Assist on each of my computers, included in the update screen, there was a "Not Yet" button.

 

I have run Quick Assist on all the systems this morning, the "Not Yet" button, has disappeared.

 

It looks like Microsoft, are forcing users to update Quick Assist, regardless as to whether they wish to do so or not, even though Microsoft, kno the updated version of Quisk Assist is floored.

 

This now means, users cannot use the previous version of Quick Assist, if they need someone have access to there computer

 

Regardless as to whether screen readers users use the previous version of Quick Assist or the new version, as individuals who are visually impaired, in my opinion, we are  being right royally screwed by the arrogance of Microsoft.

 

Dave