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Chris Hill
I sure can't think of anything else to try. If I were in that situation, I'd use k1000 to scan the document and hope it didn't scan too bad.
On 7/16/2021 12:30, Laura R wrote:
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Re: [External] : re jaws and vpn's
Don Mauck
Yes. I happen to use the Cisco VPN (any connect) and it’s just fine.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
stewartross via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 10:30 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: [External] : re jaws and vpn's
hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's? if so which ones? regards from stew
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Laura R
I have a 150 page PDF which is tagged and passed the accessibility checker and PDF/UA checkers. However, when I test it in Adobe Reader on JAWS, JAWS reads to the bottom of the page and stops. Hitting the arrow key just repeats the last word on the page like it's reached the end of the document. CTRL + Page Down does advance you to the next page, but takes you to the last line on the next page which is obviously far from an ideal experience for the end user. Insert + Down Arrow (Say All) only reads current page. I have tried changing the accessibility and reading settings to (a) read the entire document, (b) large documents read current page and changing size of large document to a minimum of 200 pgs (longer than this pdf), and (c) read single page continuous. None of them worked. The document is due to my client today and would be good to go if not for this weird issue. In 10 years of pdf remediation, I've never encountered this problem before. Because I have an NDA, I cannot share the file.
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re jaws and vpn's
stewartross <stewartross@...>
hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any
vpn's?
if so which ones?
regards from stew
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Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?
Takis,
Everything you describe has Windows Corruption or potential infection written all over it. There is no way that programs "just randomly close" under normal circumstances. First, try Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10 If that doesn't stop the offending misbehavior, then try Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file What you're describing is simply not characteristic behavior. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. ~ André Gide
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Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?
Hi Brian-all, Actually, I have double checked on this Brian and it’s all set as suggested ever since I posed this question a while back. However, I still find that I can not get a rotating behaviour with alt-tab for more than say, two windows being open simultaneously. If I have bbc radio3 open as I do, plus outlook and for a while I want to open say, a word document, then outlook will probably vanish and I have to go back to desktop and restart it afresh. I wonder if others are finding this behaviour with latest jaws and win10 21h build 19043. Kindest regards, Takis
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Παρασκευή, 16 Ιουλίου 2021 19:03 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?
You know, it's just plain foolish to call a new feature, and its default setting, however annoying that might be (and, believe me, it's happened to all of us) a problem. Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. ~ André Gide
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Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?
You know, it's just plain foolish to call a new feature, and its default setting, however annoying that might be (and, believe me, it's happened to all of us) a problem.
The ALT + TAB behavior was changed with version 20H2 (thanks, Joseph Lee for confirming version) and deeper integration with new Chromium-based MS-Edge. That behavior can be changed back to old-style with ease. As I noted yesterday, in the topic entitled, windows 10 update 21h1: Settings, System, Multitasking Pane and check to see what the dropdown for Pressing ALT + Tab shows, is set to. If you want conventional "old Windows" movement between open windows then you need to select, Open windows only, from the dropdown. Someone also mentioned that they tweaked the settings related to multiple desktops that have an impact on ALT + Tab behavior, which is also a good idea if you use them. I don't, but many do. These are some of the many reasons that being proactive and at least scanning topics you may not initially think interest you is a good idea. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. ~ André Gide
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Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
"So we can look forward to more problems with Jaws and Windows 10"
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That is an interesting statement of the "my cup is half empty" kind and I'm curious why you have such a negative attitude. I have updated my laptop and all the PC's at my business and many on the list here have updated and I don't think I have seen people report any major issues, I certainly have none.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1? hmmm, I have just noticed that my home made desktop computer has updated to windows 10 version 21h1 build 19043.1110 so we can look forward to more problems using jaws with windows 10. Legend has it that on Thursday 7/15/2021 06:54 PM, Richard Turner said: ---------------------------------------- Yesterday, Brian Vogel answered that question on this list.----------------------------------------
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Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?
ratshtron
hmmm, I have just noticed that my home made desktop computer has updated to windows 10 version 21h1 build 19043.1110 so we can look forward to more problems using jaws with windows 10.
Legend has it that on Thursday 7/15/2021 06:54 PM, Richard Turner said: ---------------------------------------- Yesterday, Brian Vogel answered that question on this list.----------------------------------------
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Re: Windows Access with Screen Readers group
Cornelius
You don’t have to resubscribe.
All users from the Win10 group are still intack as they just rename the
group.
From: Cher
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 7:59 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Windows Access with Screen Readers group I seem to have missed the transition from the old Win10 group. I would appreciate very much getting the subscribe address from someone who didn’t miss the boat 😉
Cher
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Re: Windows Access with Screen Readers group
Marie Nelson
If you were subscribed to the Win10 list you would have been automatically
subscribed to the new list.
Marie
From: Cher
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 4:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Windows Access with Screen Readers group I seem to have missed the transition from the old Win10 group. I would appreciate very much getting the subscribe address from someone who didn’t miss the boat 😉
Cher
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Re: Windows Access with Screen Readers group
Mike B.
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Howdy Cher,
Here you go:
Posting To This Group
To send a message to this group, send the
message to:
winaccess@winaccess.groups.io Stay safe & take care. Mike. Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"
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From: Cher
To: jfw@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 4:59 PM
Subject: Windows Access with Screen Readers group I seem to have missed the transition from the old Win10 group. I would appreciate very much getting the subscribe address from someone who didn’t miss the boat 😉
Cher
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Windows Access with Screen Readers group
Cher
I seem to have missed the transition from the old Win10 group. I would appreciate very much getting the subscribe address from someone who didn’t miss the boat 😉
Cher
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Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?
Mario
from Brian Vogel's earlier post:
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"... you need to check: Settings, System, Multitasking Pane and check to see what the dropdown for Pressing ALT + Tab shows, is set to. If you want conventional "old Windows" movement between open windows then you need to select, Open windows only, from the dropdown."
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From: Hank William Merchant [mailto:hank_w@...] Subject: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1? Date: Thursday, July 15, 2021, 7:38 PM To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Hello, Can someone please let me know what this setting is, so we jaws users can successfully alt-tab in Windows 10 21h1? Thanks muchly in advance for any help with this! Kindest regards, jaws 2021 user Hank *From:* Richard Turner *Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:09 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: windows 10 update 21h1 Thanks Brian. I thought it might have been you, but I got carried away deleting emails and you know how that goes… Thanks very much. Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel *Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2021 1:50 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: windows 10 update 21h1 On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 03:48 PM, Richard Turner wrote: Thanks to whomever it was that mentioned the settings for alt-tab in Windows 10! - That would be me, and you're welcome. I knew that when Microsoft introduced this particular behavior change, and made it default, it was going to be a major stumbling block for screen reader users. There was much discussion about it on the Windows Access with Screen Readers group (formerly Win10 for Screen Reader Users) back when it first hit, and I cannot recall whether that was version 1909 or 2004. This is one of the problems for those who end up on the "late end" of any feature update roll out cycle. Most of the bumps get discussed in the early weeks and first several months and then the discussions fade. By the time the late cohorts are updated much can be forgotten. This is one reason I implore people to file specific messages about changes that they are virtually certain will affect them, eventually, even if they don't at the moment. It makes it much quicker and easier to check your own mini-archive. -- Brian *-*Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 *It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.* ~ André Gide
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Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Yesterday, Brian Vogel answered that question on this list. You can also get to the place he mentions by opening the search by tapping the Windows key and typing alt-tab and arrow down a couple of times…
Here is his note:
From: main@jfw.groups.io
main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 3:04 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: windows 10 update 21h1
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 05:07 PM, Juan Hernandez wrote: If anyone has any tips on this new windows 10 experience with alt+tab please let me know - Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. ~ André Gide
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Hank William Merchant
Hello,
From: Richard Turner
Thanks Brian. I thought it might have been you, but I got carried away deleting emails and you know how that goes…
Thanks very much.
Richard Software means never having to say you're finished
Web site: www.turner42.com
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 03:48 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. ~ André Gide
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Re: Braille problem
Michael Munn
The problem is now solved regarding braille display displaying only in Grade one code in Microsoft Word. Thanks to all of you for the help. I really appreciate it. What I end up doing is having her Jaws configuration pasted into my Explorer My settings folder, then I use the first letter navigation key to find Word.JCF to open the settings center directly, I then press b until I find braille, then translation. It turns out that she had her output set to Chinese braille code and her input is in U.S Grade One . Now everything has straightened and thank you once again for the tip. best regards Michael H. Munn Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
In Microsoft Word, use Insert+V for Quick Settings and check the translation table options.
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Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?
Hank William Merchant <hank_w@...>
Hello,
From:
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows 10 update 21h1 Thanks Brian. I thought it might have been you, but I got carried away deleting emails and you know how that goes…
Thanks very much.
Richard Software means never having to say you're finished
Web site: www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 03:48 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. ~ André Gide
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Re: Braille problem
Jason White
In Microsoft Word, use Insert+V for Quick Settings and check the translation table options.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn Sent: Wednesday, 14 July 2021 16:56 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Braille problem Hi all, I have a question here. My friend shared a copy of her Jaws configuration with me to diagnose a problem that occurred in her settings. I never experienced this problem before so therefore i need some help. The problem is when she use her display to operate Jaws, it will display contracted braille everywhere she navigate her Jaws to but in microsoft Word. i tried to solve the problem but I can't seem to track it down. If you know what is the problem, please respond to this email so I can adjust her settings back to where it suppose to be. Thanks Best regards Michael Munn Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia www.nfbga.org Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind www.nfb.org Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind www.hadley.edu
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Re: windows 10 update 21h1
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Thanks Brian. I thought it might have been you, but I got carried away deleting emails and you know how that goes…
Thanks very much.
Richard Software means never having to say you're finished
Web site: www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 1:50 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: windows 10 update 21h1
On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 03:48 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. ~ André Gide
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Re: windows 10 update 21h1
Hi, Changes to Alt+Tab behavior cema up in 20H2 with the advent of deeper integration with Chromium Edge. Cheers, Joseph
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 1:50 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: windows 10 update 21h1
On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 03:48 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. ~ André Gide
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